The number ONE reason for using a tele lens is NOT about depth of field. It’s about the angle of view. Wide angle lenses exaggerate perspectives, which is very annoying for portrait, when tele lenses flatten them. The shallow depth of field is an added bonus. You should try native lens, 2x and 3x converters with the same framing, not the same distance from the camera. While the framing will be the same (same amount of your face in the picture) these will definitively be 3 quite different pictures, telling 3 difference stories.
The Ulanzi definitely seemed sharper than the Beastgrip. I am disappointed with the lack of filter threads on the ulanzi, however, as for any serious iPhone shooting I’m doing these days, I almost always want to use an ND or the pro mist filters. Hopefully Ulanzi will release a 2.0 version that had thread mounts. Both companies continue to innovate for phone filmmakers, though companies like Beastgrip and Moment, etc., tend to price their products just out of my budget range, while Ulanzi is reliably affordable. Thanks for testing these lenses. I was glad to see them in action.
getting the ulanzi, its just perfect. i dont have to back up that far to get a perfect shallow dof compared to the beast grip plus it would be a perfect addition to my s22. imagine the main 1/1.56 sensor and the f 1.8 plus this telephoto lens man the background blur is going to be creamy and you dont have to get that close to the subject to achieve that this is amazing and its compact! ❤️
Brilliant comparison. Whilst the Beastgrip was more zoomed in the Ulanzi looked like a clearer image to my eyes and really good quality. So cheap as well.
Good video. Some points, Ulanzi has its own universal cage 17mm so you don't need a clip and Filmic Pro controls are accesible. This lenses not are real tele. This lenses are macro lenses in a phone if you like a cool bokeh. I mean you have to shot very close to your subject. If I would had have this lenses to compare I will do the test in other way. I would test this lenses putting in a scene and getting the best bokeh, and then, I would try to put my subject in focus. I mean, not focus and get dof. Better get doff, and then, getting the best position focus.
How ironic! Long story short, I’ve been confronted with a problem with my Moment 58mm that forced me to purchase the Beastgrip 3X Tele this morning. I was super nervous and skeptical, but as I went to purchase, Amazon has a severely marked down price for nearly 60$ off a warehouse offer. I pulled the trigger but then when doubts creeps up after buying, and here you are talking about it in this amazing video showcasing a handful of its strengths. Thank you, thank you! I know I made the right call now.
Mobile Motion Definitely why I had to get it to replace my 58mm Moment Tele on my A camera, because there’s no actually physical security when attaching their filter mount with additional lenses to it. It is just that, an attachment. It pops on, doesn’t screw, on which became a huge problem for me when filming this past weekend. It constantly became loose or slipped off a few times, I’m glad I caught them and nothing broke. I understand it is most likely only designed for the weight of only one ND/Variable ND/Filter at a single time. While I’m stacking glass along with my VND filter, so the weight was way too much for the mount which does not screw on. I apply a +2 Diopter, a 1/4 black Pro mist filter and then my Gobe VND Filter. Upon purchasing the Beastgrip 3x Tele, I also picked up a step up right to transition along with my regular filters which does actually screw on, which is the feature I need. Sorry for the long reply 😅
Thanks for the videos that you've done one this and related subjects. You take the time to really investigate and talk about what others such as me want to know. That Ulanzi is something that I'm going to try now that I saw your video. I wanted to point out something that seems to rarely get mentioned: that on smartphone cameras (such as my iPhone X), the default 1x lens usually causes fish-eye distortions due to their "default" of taking in the widest shot. To me, when shooting a person's face it makes the subject look like they are in a fun-house of mirrors and it's unappealing. Do we want the face of our subject to look distorted? So I always try to switch to the longer lens on the camera (e.g. hit the 2x on my iPhone X) and take a few steps back to get the same amount in frame. Aren't most prime "portrait" lenses on a SLR camera often chosen on the order of 85 to 135mm? I think that it's for multiple reason and one among them is lack of distortion. You wouldn't shoot up in their face with a 28mm, right? Beside smelling each other's breath they would look distorted which is the point I'm trying to make. I've taken photos of my wife and others using both the "standard" magnification iPhone lens and then framed the same but standing further from the subject using the longer lens. It startles people when they see the resulting images side-by-side and the response is almost always that "the close up lens shot makes me look distorted and UNATTRACTIVE". To me it is sad that people accept looking really unnatural and distorted on video chats and in taking photos or movies this way. Who wants the center of their face effectively magnified and the peripheral parts of their face unnaturally shrunken?? Many webcams and front facing smartphone cameras do this. Add in failure to get white balance correct and the impression is of someone seriously needing medical help. ;-)
Both seem to have good rectilinear results, unless it’s from the phone computations. But otherwise it’s hard to tell as your pictures had the subject right in the middle with most of the frame out of focus, so it’s impossible to see what the edge to edge quality is. I’d like to see an update with newer cameras.
Hello, can you help me? I just take photos, mostly landscape and portraits. I have an iPhone 14 Pro. In case of portraits I might have an easier job, the 14 Pro offers me 77mms and I need about 23mms more to shoot faces and some bit more to catch the eyes. In case of landscape photos, I need about 300-400 mms. This is a big jump from 77. Can someone offer me a proper external lens for the best photos possible? In case of the portrait tele lens I need the minimum focal distance too.
A very good and informative video! I already use the Ulanzi, and have to agree with you about the value and quality. Interestingly, if I want even more magnification, I use it in front of the inbuilt tele lens on my iPhone 11 Pro Max. It's very good, but I am wondering if the Beastgrip lens night be even better at these magnifications, due to better glass...
Thank you Robin! Thanks for the comment. Would be interested to see what results you get with the 2 teles combined. I'm holding out for the iPhone 12 (or whatever it may be called) and presuming it has a tele included, I'll be able to test it then with the Beastgrip
Mobile Motion I certainly will keep you updated. Just ordered it now from Amazon UK. Only £180, which is a lot cheaper than getting it from Beastgrip direct. This price already includes import tax!
Hello, can you takes full size pictures of the same wall to see the quality in the angle of the picture? (By moving the photo to have the same angle of vision) A portrait in video cannot be enough. This lens have in general big problem of chromatic aberation, angle blur, and no sharp at all.
so let’s bottom line this. Putting price aside, and having the two lenses to choose from, and having the beastcage with interchangeable mounts for the Iphone 11 pro max, which lens would you personally refer to shoot with, the 65mm Ulanzi or the Beastgrip 3x?
updated: geni.us/ZgAFOXb If it doesn't work, you can search 65mm smartphone lens and scroll a bit, you should find one. They are branded by various companies.
I thought the bokeh transition was smoother and clearer with the beast grip in the first flower comparison but the second I click the see a difference. But in the close ups your skin tones seemed clearer with the beast grip. Would that be due to the change of lightning?
I think the bigger lens, the Beastgrip reduces the light a little more than the Ulanzi, so I'm guessing it darkens the skin tone perhaps. All the footage of me should be roughly the same light
Sir, speaking of the cage itself or any 37mm thread adapter for that matter, have you tried lenses that are not specifically designed for smartphones? I don't know what to expect since smartphone cameras are usually wide so perhaps there could be vignetting issues with, say a 37mm tele. I'm on a quest finding an affordable Tele lens with ability to mount nd filters on top. Not sure why only the more expensive smartphone lenses are designed with such considerations
Im sure a 3d printer could fabricate it in a way to make the ulanzi go on the beast grip and then you have both of worlds together rich and poor hand in hand lmao!!!
Mobile Motion I have the beastgrip and my friend has a zecti. I like the Zecti better. Too bad the stopped making it. I also have the beastgrip cage for the iphone 11 pro max which is a beautiful cage. I also have the moemnt 58mm and by using it with tele built in lens it gives me about a 4x. Nice review on the the two lenses. If I was going to opt for one of them I think it would be the Ulanzi.
Hi, how do you find Ulanzi 65mm on your new Note 20 Ultra? Because I have some thoughts of 1/1.33 sensor and how it copes with it.. Would be great to know, thanks!
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I forgot to mention that the Beastgrip has a thread to mount a 58mm filter whereas the Ulanzi can't mount any filters directly
Hello Mobile Motion, is there an option to attach ND filters on the Ulanzi 65mm lense??
@@klhonestguide6937 nope
@@klhonestguide6937 just my two cents…I’ve made my own filters for my iPhone camera and it helps
@@GuanRytheFantastic do you mean attaching a filter to the ulanzi (or any lens without threading)? How do you pull that off?
The number ONE reason for using a tele lens is NOT about depth of field. It’s about the angle of view. Wide angle lenses exaggerate perspectives, which is very annoying for portrait, when tele lenses flatten them. The shallow depth of field is an added bonus. You should try native lens, 2x and 3x converters with the same framing, not the same distance from the camera. While the framing will be the same (same amount of your face in the picture) these will definitively be 3 quite different pictures, telling 3 difference stories.
absolutely correct👍
You're absolutely correct
You've just convinced me to get the Ulanzi. I wish I had this lens when I was shooting this weekend.
its a goodun
Hello , do YOU have some footage to share?
I want to
The Ulanzi definitely seemed sharper than the Beastgrip. I am disappointed with the lack of filter threads on the ulanzi, however, as for any serious iPhone shooting I’m doing these days, I almost always want to use an ND or the pro mist filters. Hopefully Ulanzi will release a 2.0 version that had thread mounts. Both companies continue to innovate for phone filmmakers, though companies like Beastgrip and Moment, etc., tend to price their products just out of my budget range, while Ulanzi is reliably affordable.
Thanks for testing these lenses. I was glad to see them in action.
Really? I thought it was the other way around.
I hope Ulanzi makes a version 2 with filter mount accessibility of their Tele Len's, however this will do for now 👍
getting the ulanzi, its just perfect. i dont have to back up that far to get a perfect shallow dof compared to the beast grip plus it would be a perfect addition to my s22. imagine the main 1/1.56 sensor and the f 1.8 plus this telephoto lens man the background blur is going to be creamy and you dont have to get that close to the subject to achieve that this is amazing and its compact! ❤️
Bro will it work good on iphone 13
I love my ulanzi lens. Regarding a filter mount, I made my own out of black foam board, it works fine.
I attached mine to a Dreamgrip Pro cage that comes with a filter adapter and I added a step up/step down ring and use filters.
Pls teach how to make
Would love to see how you made this
I use all the Beastgrip lenses and the resolution is fantastic. My favorite is the 3x tele. Great lens.
Brilliant comparison. Whilst the Beastgrip was more zoomed in the Ulanzi looked like a clearer image to my eyes and really good quality. So cheap as well.
Yes, great little lens
Can you do a similar video, but with the fisheye lenses?
Good video. Some points, Ulanzi has its own universal cage 17mm so you don't need a clip and Filmic Pro controls are accesible. This lenses not are real tele. This lenses are macro lenses in a phone if you like a cool bokeh. I mean you have to shot very close to your subject. If I would had have this lenses to compare I will do the test in other way. I would test this lenses putting in a scene and getting the best bokeh, and then, I would try to put my subject in focus. I mean, not focus and get dof. Better get doff, and then, getting the best position focus.
How ironic! Long story short, I’ve been confronted with a problem with my Moment 58mm that forced me to purchase the Beastgrip 3X Tele this morning. I was super nervous and skeptical, but as I went to purchase, Amazon has a severely marked down price for nearly 60$ off a warehouse offer. I pulled the trigger but then when doubts creeps up after buying, and here you are talking about it in this amazing video showcasing a handful of its strengths. Thank you, thank you! I know I made the right call now.
Yes I've been using the Beastgrip 3x quite a bit. I forgot to mention one advantage it has - you can add 58mm filters onto it
Mobile Motion Definitely why I had to get it to replace my 58mm Moment Tele on my A camera, because there’s no actually physical security when attaching their filter mount with additional lenses to it. It is just that, an attachment. It pops on, doesn’t screw, on which became a huge problem for me when filming this past weekend. It constantly became loose or slipped off a few times, I’m glad I caught them and nothing broke. I understand it is most likely only designed for the weight of only one ND/Variable ND/Filter at a single time. While I’m stacking glass along with my VND filter, so the weight was way too much for the mount which does not screw on. I apply a +2 Diopter, a 1/4 black Pro mist filter and then my Gobe VND Filter. Upon purchasing the Beastgrip 3x Tele, I also picked up a step up right to transition along with my regular filters which does actually screw on, which is the feature I need. Sorry for the long reply 😅
Informative. I have the Ulanzi 65, great lens! Thanks sweetheart!
*subbed* much love from Vancouver Canada 🇨🇦 so excited for this 😍
Thanks for the videos that you've done one this and related subjects. You take the time to really investigate and talk about what others such as me want to know. That Ulanzi is something that I'm going to try now that I saw your video.
I wanted to point out something that seems to rarely get mentioned: that on smartphone cameras (such as my iPhone X), the default 1x lens usually causes fish-eye distortions due to their "default" of taking in the widest shot. To me, when shooting a person's face it makes the subject look like they are in a fun-house of mirrors and it's unappealing. Do we want the face of our subject to look distorted? So I always try to switch to the longer lens on the camera (e.g. hit the 2x on my iPhone X) and take a few steps back to get the same amount in frame. Aren't most prime "portrait" lenses on a SLR camera often chosen on the order of 85 to 135mm? I think that it's for multiple reason and one among them is lack of distortion. You wouldn't shoot up in their face with a 28mm, right? Beside smelling each other's breath they would look distorted which is the point I'm trying to make.
I've taken photos of my wife and others using both the "standard" magnification iPhone lens and then framed the same but standing further from the subject using the longer lens. It startles people when they see the resulting images side-by-side and the response is almost always that "the close up lens shot makes me look distorted and UNATTRACTIVE".
To me it is sad that people accept looking really unnatural and distorted on video chats and in taking photos or movies this way. Who wants the center of their face effectively magnified and the peripheral parts of their face unnaturally shrunken?? Many webcams and front facing smartphone cameras do this. Add in failure to get white balance correct and the impression is of someone seriously needing medical help. ;-)
Great video!
The way his facial expressions change when he does the portrait test reminds me of when you stare at GTA V NPCs.
That's why I don't joke with your videos. Ulanzi all the ways
This would be a good thing for tablet owners, if the attaching clip was longer. Many tablets require a 60-70mm reach to the camera lens.
This was a great comparison. Very well explained! Thank you so much... Just subscribed! Love and greetings from India. 🇮🇳
Does the Ulanzi lens have a 17mm thread mount?
Ulanzi is the one for me because it can easily fit on a phone gimbal. It's a shame it can't fit a variable nd filter though.
Thanks for this review.
Hi, I see the lens increases the bokeh. I love it.
Nice one, Simon. I have the BeastGrip and Moment lenses, but am also considering Ulanzi’s.
Exactly what I was looking for!
Another very useful video brilliantly done. I have just ordered a ulsnzi from wish
Super informative, thank you!
Both seem to have good rectilinear results, unless it’s from the phone computations. But otherwise it’s hard to tell as your pictures had the subject right in the middle with most of the frame out of focus, so it’s impossible to see what the edge to edge quality is. I’d like to see an update with newer cameras.
The beastgrip , when I look at your video, looks less sharp, especially in your eyes region. The Ulanzi on the other hand looks perfectly sharp
Thanks for this video!
Could such lenses also be mounted on a camera with C Mount on it?
Is Ulanzi compatible with pixel 7?
Hello, can you help me? I just take photos, mostly landscape and portraits. I have an iPhone 14 Pro. In case of portraits I might have an easier job, the 14 Pro offers me 77mms and I need about 23mms more to shoot faces and some bit more to catch the eyes. In case of landscape photos, I need about 300-400 mms. This is a big jump from 77. Can someone offer me a proper external lens for the best photos possible? In case of the portrait tele lens I need the minimum focal distance too.
Now it’s impossible to get the ulanzi 65mm 😭😭😭
A very good and informative video!
I already use the Ulanzi, and have to agree with you about the value and quality.
Interestingly, if I want even more magnification, I use it in front of the inbuilt tele lens on my iPhone 11 Pro Max. It's very good, but I am wondering if the Beastgrip lens night be even better at these magnifications, due to better glass...
Thank you Robin! Thanks for the comment. Would be interested to see what results you get with the 2 teles combined. I'm holding out for the iPhone 12 (or whatever it may be called) and presuming it has a tele included, I'll be able to test it then with the Beastgrip
Mobile Motion I certainly will keep you updated. Just ordered it now from Amazon UK. Only £180, which is a lot cheaper than getting it from Beastgrip direct. This price already includes import tax!
@@FfilmiauFflur perfect!
@@FfilmiauFflur So... how was the double tele experiment?
How do these lenses focus? Is there a focus ring, for manual focus?
they're conversion lenses - your phone camera handles the focusing
Will this work for facebook Livestreamimg??
5:33 On the left door latch. Is that DOF or smudgy soft edge quality?
Hello, can you takes full size pictures of the same wall to see the quality in the angle of the picture? (By moving the photo to have the same angle of vision)
A portrait in video cannot be enough.
This lens have in general big problem of chromatic aberation, angle blur, and no sharp at all.
so let’s bottom line this. Putting price aside, and having the two lenses to choose from, and having the beastcage with interchangeable mounts for the Iphone 11 pro max, which lens would you personally refer to shoot with, the 65mm Ulanzi or the Beastgrip 3x?
if I had to choose one, perhaps the Ulanzi is a bit more versatile. Having said that I would probably choose the Beastgrip
Can I use the Ulanzi Telephoto lens with the samsung note 10?
My problem is that I can't add my Neewer 37mm to the Ulazni and I can my 2x Apexal with my Zecti cage.
that's the main downside to this lens
Can i use this on the front camera
great video, i wonder are those camera cages called Zecti ? do they still offer them?
thanks! Yeah unfortunately I think they stopped making them now. No idea why
The best cage you can get now with an outstanding optical mount is the Dreamgrip Pro cage.
I have a small rig cage for my iPhone 8 Plus but having such a hard time finding 37mm tele lenses. Will the beast grip work on the small rig cage?
Can I use ulanzi65 mm with iPhone 11(2 cams)? but not pro version
Sadly the Amazon link to the Ulanzi is dead and I can’t seem to find one anywhere..
updated: geni.us/ZgAFOXb
If it doesn't work, you can search 65mm smartphone lens and scroll a bit, you should find one. They are branded by various companies.
or you can try Aliexpress: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AppZzJ
@@SiHorrocks thank you for this. A great help. Now looking for a phone case for iPhone 12 Pro.
Thanks for your review !
Great thank you
Just ordered the Ulanzi lens. Damn.... a while months wait
nice! I ordered mine from Aliexpress and it took about 4 months
I thought the bokeh transition was smoother and clearer with the beast grip in the first flower comparison but the second I click the see a difference. But in the close ups your skin tones seemed clearer with the beast grip. Would that be due to the change of lightning?
Click = couldn’t 🤷🏼♂️😢
I think the bigger lens, the Beastgrip reduces the light a little more than the Ulanzi, so I'm guessing it darkens the skin tone perhaps. All the footage of me should be roughly the same light
Mobile Motion thanks for the reply. And thanks for your videos 😊
Can you use these with the native cam app so that you get The stabilization ?
Yes
Hi Simon. I have the Sirui 60mm (I use it with my S9). Do you think the Ulanzi 65mm is better?
I think the ulanzi 65mm is one of the best cheap lenses I've seen. I haven't tried the Sirui 60mm though
@@SiHorrocks thanks!
is ulanzi 65mm telephoto fix for iphone12 pro max? i’m planning to buy. thanks
I think it works pretty well on that device
Sir, speaking of the cage itself or any 37mm thread adapter for that matter, have you tried lenses that are not specifically designed for smartphones?
I don't know what to expect since smartphone cameras are usually wide so perhaps there could be vignetting issues with, say a 37mm tele.
I'm on a quest finding an affordable Tele lens with ability to mount nd filters on top. Not sure why only the more expensive smartphone lenses are designed with such considerations
Try the Nikon tc-e3ed
Im sure a 3d printer could fabricate it in a way to make the ulanzi go on the beast grip and then you have both of worlds together rich and poor hand in hand lmao!!!
I want these 😁
What ever happened to the zecti video rig. Can’t find it anywhere
unfortunately I think they stopped making them a while ago, which is a shame as they are pretty cool rigs
Mobile Motion I have the beastgrip and my friend has a zecti. I like the Zecti better. Too bad the stopped making it. I also have the beastgrip cage for the iphone 11 pro max which is a beautiful cage. I also have the moemnt 58mm and by using it with tele built in lens it gives me about a 4x. Nice review on the the two lenses. If I was going to opt for one of them I think it would be the Ulanzi.
@@elliotstern8582 4x that's great. How does the image come out?
Mobile Motion excellent
Hi, what adapter do you use for the ulanzi too fit the beastgrip? Or is this not a beastgrip?
I used a Zecti rig, but they no longer make it
@@SiHorrocks ahh found a adapter on dreamgrip webshop. Thanks.
Hi, how do you find Ulanzi 65mm on your new Note 20 Ultra? Because I have some thoughts of 1/1.33 sensor and how it copes with it.. Would be great to know, thanks!
I wasn't able to mount it because the camera module is so fat on the Note 20
@@SiHorrocks Even with the spring clip mount?
@@miesto_paukstis 'fraid so
Can I mount the Ulanzi 65mm Tele lens to the Ulanzi U-Rig Metal Smartphone Video Rig which has 37mm and 17mm threaded lens/filter mount,?
Yes
Ulanzi is the inexpensive and easy to buy lens. Beastgrip lens needs a cage to attach to the phone. Its more than a $200 lens.
true
Anyone tell you that you look a lot like Joaquin Phoenix?
only on TH-cam apparently lol. That's a nice comparison though
Watch at 1.5X omg it's like a whole different video!
Hi Simon. Have you checked out the Motion cam app? Ability to shoot true Raw in smartphones. Hope you review this soon
I wiil :) But probabnly I will need external tele lenses to shoot my goals.
Pls could you advice or help with a phone cage or caddy which can allow mobile phone camera lenses attachment for oppo a92?
Try apexel telephoto.
Is the ulanzi 65mm appropriate to use as a macro lens while shooting jewllery ? Like a very cheap one
just got mine 💪
yes!