You have to play around sigil mastery buff in FS, don't press eye beam without it up. Other than that good luck, playing DH vs. any other caster is just SO MUCH MORE effort for the same reward, I've been blasting through CR on any other alt. You can line everything up perfectly and ele/sp/affl/frost will still outpump you. DH will be the bottom of the barrel and you still have people complaining about them lol. unironically they could use a little push. My personal ask would be for them to buff up Aldrachi and make it the Arms/PVP spec of DH. Aldrachi is useless as is lol might as well make it an avenue for DH to PVP. Make the empowered blade dance apply a stronger grievous or anti heal. Idk but we can play around with ideas from there
Came to say this, Fel-Scarred is insane in unorganized gameplay because you're just an absolute titan smashing unaware players. Feels pretty good sitting at like 1950ish CR on my alt rn.
Ive barely played but hit 1700 fairly quick. I usually top damage most games and that was before they fixed the fel scarred agi buff. Its just easy to cc and even easier to kill outside of blur and darkness
Idk what these dudes cry about as DH, I never touched the class on launch, started leveling mine in bfa but never maxxed it, leveled it up for tww cause the exp buffs and finally got to play one endgame at aparently their weakest time ever in wow history, and shit feels hella broken to me... I can literally glimpse out of most cc and doublejump/fel rush over mage novas/rof and have 999 interupts it feels like compared to other classes. Shits got more micro CC then MoP hunters. The ammount of times Ive literally just bursted someone low, then afk sat on a fresh DR healer with Stun /laugh felstun/slap/imprison (enemy trink) into my premeditated Sigil of fear disorient /laugh... and just won afk sitting on top ccing a healer... I think they just dont play the class right... They all too use to one shotting with the hunt.. Which is utter trash I admit.. make that maybe do a lil more dmg but thats it... dont touch the class its insane if someones not retarded. I think the old Ungabunga DH players from past xpacs should class swap to WW monk if they want to just afk train something and toss out a incap to win.. thats no longer the DH class, Its more nuanced now. Being killed in darkness does feel terrible though, I agree. Maybe some defensive buffs are needed. But if ur having fun keep playing the class, its not bad at all in the slightest and is very good if you put time into it.
This was my main last season in DF. Haven’t played it as much this xpac. JUST got conquest weps on him a few days ago. Might as well play him again for the fun factor
Tried havoc dh with 2 set and some purple gear... Definitely felt like the worst spec ive ever played.... To be fair my lobbies were pretty terrible. 0 cr i get 2 blood dk lobbies back to back then get thrown into a full purple caster 1900 cr game, with a combined 2 wins out of 12 matches lol
@@Halfhaphazard yea it's kinda common now. With new hero talent it stacks up damage on a death strike, and you have a 50% parry every minute with your go that does more damage. Can't really die and does around dps level DMG
DH is fun, but i always have 2 issues with it. You dont have a finisher, how many matches i had with the enemy on 10% hp for ages is really frustrating. And your teammates always seem to die.
Would've loved to see a game versus ele/boomy or sp/frost mage Here ofc it seems ok you're at 1500mmr versus full melee lobby or a lobby where people ignore you...
So glad that you decided to give the DH a try V...I main one and the class is super fun and agile, we do need a bit of a buff hopefully when Illidaddy will return but nonetheless the class is super fun to play !!! 😉💯
Really enjoyed dh but I can't sit in these qs to push that high rating with a real job. Less and less players lately queues are so awful. Even for blitz my healer has 10 min qs at 1700. Higher rating on dh good players just save stun for eye beam to shutdown your whole go. Don't have as much fun playing reaver
Better at lower ratings where people have no idea how to play against them don't use and have zero clue but higher games where you get stopped every eyebeam it's meh at best
The number of times he said big dam and only got like 30% of enemies life was hilarious. Also, the number of times he begged his partner not to die (because no real utility to save them) = entertaining. I hope more people play DH because of a bliz con champions highlight video at 1500 as DH is undeniably trash and are on farm in retail. They don't have a thing. They're not doing more damage than shamans ferals or even evokers. They aren't immortal like shadow priests who can also swap their teammate shutting down a go. They aren't lethal game closers like warriors or ferals. They aren't playmaking tacticians like rets rogues or mages. Nothing in this video made me think oh wow I've really been missing out on DH. I also won't be going into my next lobby going on no a DH lol. Which is sad because thematically they are awesome this expansion with incredibly fun mechanics they just don't clap.
People complaining about Frost Mages "never having to cast" which hasn‘t been the case for like a month now since lance got nerfed multiple times and every1 swapped to FFB build. Meanwhile Ele deleting entire teams and forcing all CDs in like a minute with only instants LUL
Instant cast ffb procs, and icy veins procs and main cd make it ridiculously fast cast time. I know, I’m playing one. Finally had enough. Frost is mongo op vs any melee too, it’s the bm of casters vs melee.
people who play wow need to know true. There is too much cheaters in arena using pixel bot rotations and script. And blizard dont do nothing.A most r1 and glad players using script. Every booster paying for script and try to get some golda and money to pay sub for script . So game is not fair and i stop play pvp forever i was r1 worlk, , cata , pandaria. when start shadowlands people massive start using scripts and bot rotation. Pvp is dead
I couldn't see ur chat but I hope u at least communicated ur plans to ur team, because several games u just actively did the opposite of what they suggested. That's fine you don't always have to follow random ppls orders but it's nice to at least give a heads up. It kinda felt like u were trolling at lost on purpose in several of these games.
I have a shaman, Evoker, warlock, Hunter and monk on lvl 80 für pvp and somehow buffs and nerfs by blizzard create the only playable meta. For example: my hunter MM was lots of fun in arena and now i do ZERO damage compared to other classes because of the nerfs. Trying out shaman with zero gear is more rewarding in 1700xp lobbies than hunter full equip in 1900 xp lobbies. Sadly. They make the pvp gear grind way to hard to play multiple classes during a season. Ps. This is my first season since a long time playing WoW but still :D
Shamans in general need to be nerfed hard, it's crazy to me nobody is talking about them and instead everyone was crying about hunters. But every game I've ever been in with a shaman they took the meters every time, regardless of if there's a hunter feral shadow affliction boomkin doesn't matter.
good they should delete dh/evoker/monk from the game. its not true to the original lore and cannon of the game. when dh is meta the game is awful. im happy dh is terrible
They are its a 3 min cd on that burst they pop like 4 cds together i just always line them but unfortunately at low ratings people just pop every defensive they have trying to live.
Stay tuned for more and the 2100 HUNDO push.
@@Venruki how did you select the totem at 2:18 ?
Good stuff, Ven! Keep these kinds of vids coming
You have to play around sigil mastery buff in FS, don't press eye beam without it up. Other than that good luck, playing DH vs. any other caster is just SO MUCH MORE effort for the same reward, I've been blasting through CR on any other alt. You can line everything up perfectly and ele/sp/affl/frost will still outpump you. DH will be the bottom of the barrel and you still have people complaining about them lol. unironically they could use a little push. My personal ask would be for them to buff up Aldrachi and make it the Arms/PVP spec of DH. Aldrachi is useless as is lol might as well make it an avenue for DH to PVP. Make the empowered blade dance apply a stronger grievous or anti heal. Idk but we can play around with ideas from there
love seeing the underclass pound, you should give Fel-scarred a try, BIG META is scary in these short melee heavy games
Came to say this, Fel-Scarred is insane in unorganized gameplay because you're just an absolute titan smashing unaware players. Feels pretty good sitting at like 1950ish CR on my alt rn.
can anyone tell me the weakaura or addon that makes shaman totmes do that glow thign and only show them
I wanna know too
good to see that solo shuffle is bad for everyone just not me :D
1:15 healer's life in a nutshell lol
Healers don't usually stand in void volley tho lol
Ven back at it again, with the dee aytch
Ive barely played but hit 1700 fairly quick. I usually top damage most games and that was before they fixed the fel scarred agi buff. Its just easy to cc and even easier to kill outside of blur and darkness
Idk what these dudes cry about as DH, I never touched the class on launch, started leveling mine in bfa but never maxxed it, leveled it up for tww cause the exp buffs and finally got to play one endgame at aparently their weakest time ever in wow history, and shit feels hella broken to me... I can literally glimpse out of most cc and doublejump/fel rush over mage novas/rof and have 999 interupts it feels like compared to other classes. Shits got more micro CC then MoP hunters. The ammount of times Ive literally just bursted someone low, then afk sat on a fresh DR healer with Stun /laugh felstun/slap/imprison (enemy trink) into my premeditated Sigil of fear disorient /laugh... and just won afk sitting on top ccing a healer... I think they just dont play the class right... They all too use to one shotting with the hunt.. Which is utter trash I admit.. make that maybe do a lil more dmg but thats it... dont touch the class its insane if someones not retarded. I think the old Ungabunga DH players from past xpacs should class swap to WW monk if they want to just afk train something and toss out a incap to win.. thats no longer the DH class, Its more nuanced now. Being killed in darkness does feel terrible though, I agree. Maybe some defensive buffs are needed. But if ur having fun keep playing the class, its not bad at all in the slightest and is very good if you put time into it.
This was my main last season in DF. Haven’t played it as much this xpac. JUST got conquest weps on him a few days ago. Might as well play him again for the fun factor
"Gonna go ahead and drop a darkness"... this is what im saying everytime I need to poop now.
What addon is it that shows totems like that?
Tried havoc dh with 2 set and some purple gear... Definitely felt like the worst spec ive ever played.... To be fair my lobbies were pretty terrible. 0 cr i get 2 blood dk lobbies back to back then get thrown into a full purple caster 1900 cr game, with a combined 2 wins out of 12 matches lol
People playing blood dk in shuffle now ?
@@Halfhaphazard yea it's kinda common now. With new hero talent it stacks up damage on a death strike, and you have a 50% parry every minute with your go that does more damage. Can't really die and does around dps level DMG
@@Halfhaphazard yeah they do, you can see the ladder, quite a lot of them. Some lobbies can bug out and count Prot Pala as healers 😂
@@waex3344nice. Time to start trolling. They nerfed my UHDK to the ground so time for some blood dk action.
@@grantx6 bro nice. Will need to get on my blood dk since UHDK got nerfed to the ground.
Fel Scarred is way better, you should try it.
DH is fun, but i always have 2 issues with it. You dont have a finisher, how many matches i had with the enemy on 10% hp for ages is really frustrating. And your teammates always seem to die.
You need to listen to mvqq music while playing DH. If not, you just lose games after games
Would've loved to see a game versus ele/boomy or sp/frost mage
Here ofc it seems ok you're at 1500mmr versus full melee lobby or a lobby where people ignore you...
So glad that you decided to give the DH a try V...I main one and the class is super fun and agile, we do need a bit of a buff hopefully when Illidaddy will return but nonetheless the class is super fun to play !!! 😉💯
Try Fel scarred for 3's. Aldrachi reaver is better for duels but more burst with fel scarred.
"I told you not to go ele..."
Really enjoyed dh but I can't sit in these qs to push that high rating with a real job. Less and less players lately queues are so awful. Even for blitz my healer has 10 min qs at 1700. Higher rating on dh good players just save stun for eye beam to shutdown your whole go. Don't have as much fun playing reaver
Dh was the class I struggled the most to get 1800 with. I swear melee is more difficult than casters in ss at least
The goat
Demon hunter is better than people think. It could use a small buff for sure, but with a good healer it can pump massive damage.
mmmm no
Pretty sure raiku mvq and blizo know what to think
Stop chatting
Better at lower ratings where people have no idea how to play against them don't use and have zero clue but higher games where you get stopped every eyebeam it's meh at best
Dh needing some buffs, but we have some good players in 3v3 and solo s, with 2400 +.
2:18 how did you target that totem?
Also at 2:02. I slowed it down trying to see where he clicked it but I'm not seeing it. How do you do that?
@dadda9264 I asked chat gpt and it gave me some macros that are potentially useful.
@dadda9264 I also watched it for 10 mins at .25 speed trying to see lol
Most people are below 1800 so this is fine tbh.
The number of times he said big dam and only got like 30% of enemies life was hilarious. Also, the number of times he begged his partner not to die (because no real utility to save them) = entertaining. I hope more people play DH because of a bliz con champions highlight video at 1500 as DH is undeniably trash and are on farm in retail. They don't have a thing. They're not doing more damage than shamans ferals or even evokers. They aren't immortal like shadow priests who can also swap their teammate shutting down a go. They aren't lethal game closers like warriors or ferals. They aren't playmaking tacticians like rets rogues or mages. Nothing in this video made me think oh wow I've really been missing out on DH. I also won't be going into my next lobby going on no a DH lol. Which is sad because thematically they are awesome this expansion with incredibly fun mechanics they just don't clap.
Do yall have a partner to team up with? Because SS are taking ridiculousky long to que
You can’t duo in SS
@@blankspace4358 I know but my point is everyone doing 2s or 3s now because no ones playing SS
Good to see that even a WoW superstar can struggle in those lower CRs.
I always felt it was just me.
Ayyyy Dh
People complaining about Frost Mages "never having to cast" which hasn‘t been the case for like a month now since lance got nerfed multiple times and every1 swapped to FFB build. Meanwhile Ele deleting entire teams and forcing all CDs in like a minute with only instants LUL
Ur crazy frost still broken S tier
If you’ve played through multiple xpacs name at least more than one time that ele was more viable than frost mage
He is playing in 0cr where people dont trade def cooldowns until dead, on top of that ele was full geared for some reasom in 0cr
Ice lance was never even the strongest skill the fact that y'all talk like Frost isn't top tier is hilarious
Instant cast ffb procs, and icy veins procs and main cd make it ridiculously fast cast time. I know, I’m playing one. Finally had enough. Frost is mongo op vs any melee too, it’s the bm of casters vs melee.
What ability did you use to immune the two storm bolts? Thanks-
More like Aldookie Reaver
I see blood dk more then DH lol
people who play wow need to know true. There is too much cheaters in arena using pixel bot rotations and script. And blizard dont do nothing.A most r1 and glad players using script. Every booster paying for script and try to get some golda and money to pay sub for script . So game is not fair and i stop play pvp forever i was r1 worlk, , cata , pandaria. when start shadowlands people massive start using scripts and bot rotation. Pvp is dead
Wasn't the hunters fault.. he had nothing left, only turtle, 2x survival, fei, heal and some random stuff.. nothing he could've done. *rofl*
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playing against double war doesn't dark doesn't imprison lol
I couldn't see ur chat but I hope u at least communicated ur plans to ur team, because several games u just actively did the opposite of what they suggested. That's fine you don't always have to follow random ppls orders but it's nice to at least give a heads up. It kinda felt like u were trolling at lost on purpose in several of these games.
Dare i say it, ele is busted
I have a shaman, Evoker, warlock, Hunter and monk on lvl 80 für pvp and somehow buffs and nerfs by blizzard create the only playable meta. For example: my hunter MM was lots of fun in arena and now i do ZERO damage compared to other classes because of the nerfs. Trying out shaman with zero gear is more rewarding in 1700xp lobbies than hunter full equip in 1900 xp lobbies. Sadly. They make the pvp gear grind way to hard to play multiple classes during a season.
Ps. This is my first season since a long time playing WoW but still :D
DH is great at 1500 😂
Go fel scarred. Aldrachi is trash
totally agree xD xD fel scar has insane burst windows
Lol, lots of top tier dh are AR for solo shufle.
@robertdassaev5647 Yeah it has great sustained and little better defensive kit with vengeful retreat but the burst damage and healing isnt even close.
@robertdassaev5647 best NA DH is Fel scarred. Also Flarkness is 2700+ BGB and always ran fel scarred even before agi bug out of meta.
lol turned off this video after seeing the ele shaman do 3 times his dmg
Shamans in general need to be nerfed hard, it's crazy to me nobody is talking about them and instead everyone was crying about hunters. But every game I've ever been in with a shaman they took the meters every time, regardless of if there's a hunter feral shadow affliction boomkin doesn't matter.
Guess what? DH still sucks, another pseudo melee
good they should delete dh/evoker/monk from the game. its not true to the original lore and cannon of the game. when dh is meta the game is awful. im happy dh is terrible
this has got to be bait
Dh is trash :/
yeah shamans are fine.
They are its a 3 min cd on that burst they pop like 4 cds together i just always line them but unfortunately at low ratings people just pop every defensive they have trying to live.
Gear difference mostly
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