One mistake:Iran is actually closer to Armenia Tho Aserbaijan is like Iran Shia, Iran is scared of a too strong Azerbaijan that could take its northwest which is mostly Azeri (it actually has more Azeris then Azerbaijan (10 Million vs 15 Million)). Furthermore Azerbaijan's closest allies are Turkey and Israel. Both of whom hate Iran So Armenia and Azerbaijan turned form a Russo-Turkish proxy to a Turkish-Iranian proxy (both of these are rivalries that date back centuries)
Turkey and Iran hate each other? I knew they aren't best friends, they see each other more as trading partners and occasional disturbances in each other's Geopolitical plans. But hate?
Calling it a Turkish-Iranian proxy war is laughable. Armenia has nowhere near the level of support and direct involvement from Iran that Russia used to provide Armenia. Right now Armenia stands alone…
I think Armenia will not have a good future.Because its geography forces Armenia to be dependent on its neighbors.For example, when the Turks closed their borders, the country was stunned and they had to approach Iran.Since Armenia has no chance of gaining territory, the country will be a mountain piece that other states will use to intimidate other states.
@@hasank1111 Just trade through Georgia or stop provoking their neighbour states then? Armenia funded terrorist groups against Azerbaijan and Turkey and their government still supports a "Greater Armenia"
Also keep in mind that a major sticking point between Armenia and Turkey/Azerbaijan has been eliminated, and it's very likely that there will be some degree of rapprochement.
@@BloodRider1914 It is true, but the real rapprochement will come with the resolution of the events of 1915 (the truth has a bad habit of coming out even if it is covered up (I am saying this for both sides, so I will not say which side is right)) and I hope Turkey will take steps in this regard, one of our problems with bordering states. In this way, we will be one step closer to peace. Otherwise, if I had the right to say something, I would tell Armenia to "go and unite with Georgia"
It isn't "mostly" unrecognized, it hasn't been recognized by ANY UN member state, not even Armenia! It's only been recognized by three unrecognized countries, Transnistria, South Ossetia, and Abkhazia, with the latter two being recognized by a few members. Also, Iran is a big ally of Armenia, not Azerbaijan. The reason Iran sides with Armenia is because the cultural links between Persians and Armenians is a tale as old as time, Azerbaijan loves Turkey and Israel, and there are A LOT of Azeris in the northwest of Iran aka Iranian Azerbaijan and they don't want said Azeris to breakaway and join Azerbaijan. And Iran has stated that they won't let Azerbaijan block the Armenian-Iranian border. It wouldn't be the first time Iranian Azerbaijan broke away from Iran, as they did so during the Iran crisis of the late 1940s when the Soviets refused to leave Iran and created two states in the Iranian Azerbaijan region, the Azerbaijan People's Government and the Kurdish Republic of Mahabad. The Azerbaijan People's Government was led by the Azerbaijani Democratic Party who was pan-Turkist and wanted to potentially unite with the Azerbaijan SSR. It lasted from November 1945 until December 1946 when the Iranian army reentered after an agreement was reached between them and Iran in June of that year. The Kurdish Republic of Mahabad on the other hand only lasted between January and December 1946.
The Caucasus States have more in common with each other than they have with any outsider false friends or false foes. If there was any chance of them unifying all three together they would have a stronger chance of not being manipulated or abused or anything. They might have some ancient grudges but with Russia, Turkey, Iran, Greece and India for close neighbors surely they must understand that the powerful countries will each be tempted to exploit and conquer the weak. And it's actually worse for small countries in some ways because while I think India is smart enough to look at Ukraine and decide "don't underestimate defenders in the first place. Perhaps even if we think can win, maybe we can't and that would be a failure even in battle outcomes even before people decry it morally" Iran, however, may look at Russia and think "bah! We can surely do better than that!" And wish to be more aggressive than it otherwise would have been. I don't know about Turkey but ask the Armenians what they think of Turkey. Georgia and Armenia have reason to really stick close together and Armenia has a good reason to suggest to Azerbaijan that they simply cannot trust these large and powerful neighbors who might at any time wish for simpler maps to look at. Yugoslavia failed, but Yugocaucasia well it probably also would not work but banded together they have a better chance at resisting either Iran or Turkey. I only think Russia is down, they still have two major nearby enemies to fear. War tempts the hearts of even the best, and I don't think the region is lucky enough to have enough of the best. The idea of the greed for oil is enough all on its own that anyone might turn on the other. Then there is the water. If Armenia and Azerbaijan settled this in the most unlikely manner of unifying with each other, it would be imo their best shot at not being invaded by Iran someday. Or Turkey really.
Yes because country regaining land that was conquered from them and their population got ethnically cleansed from is totally the darkest episode he covered (meanwhile Yemeni civil war having more casualties than all the conflicts in Middle East combined)
@@chimera9818the op never said this was the darkest, just that it was dark. Obviously there are worse things that have happened,but that doesn’t take away from what happened here
@@Hacker_Kamykono it wasn’t and nobody recognized it has Armenia land and not azeri land including are Armenia, are you even learned about the conflict or just Telling me of who you think is the good guys?
@@xunqianbaidu6917 no they are not. some local armenain leaders are forcing them to leave to make a claim you make now for getting corrupt lobbies money like senator Menendez . All armenians deciding to stay are Azerbaijani citizens and their rights are same as any other citizen of azr
It's kind of morbid how human suffering leads up to just being covered as a map change on this channel. I miss the times when map change episodes were just peaceful resolutions between nations.
It's even sadder when you realize this channel is probably going to get it more recognition than the media. There's barely any coverage, especially about the blockade that preceded this for 9 months.
Yeah watch the early mapping videos that got us all hooked (ww1 and ww2 etc.) where millions die. Crazy to think 1 pixel change means many people being hurt.
Love your videos but some key points were missed in this video imo: 1. The Soviet Union was very much not better at ethnic border drawing. In fact they were drawn badly on purpose to cause disarray in the republics, as seen by giving Artsakh to Azerbaijan. 2. I wouldn’t really say Iran is an ally of Azerbaijan; in fact, they’ve stated recently that they will not accept any border changes to Armenia proper in response to Azeri military buildup near Armenia’s southern borders. 3. No mention of the Azeri blockade in which the only route connecting Armenia to Artsakh was blocked from sending resources for 9 months, which essentially starved Artsakh into surrendering in 24 hours last week. I appreciate you shedding light on these events as always 👍🏻
A nine month blockade of food? 120k people living in Armenia before the blockade according to the census? Armenian authorities saying all 120k Armenians will leave for Armenia proper? Humans can only survive for at maximum 1 month without food? Starvation? Tone, something don’t add up here…
@@oneproudukrainian2063 yeah that doesn’t jive with the months of “reports” I’ve heard from the Glendale Internet Defense Force that have been saying that Artsakh had been on the brink of starvation since December.
There was also the fact about Stalin forcing entire ethnic populations of people to leave their homelands in the Union. And he wasn’t even Russia himself.
3:21 Wrong. Azerbaijan's relations with Iran was only good at the beginning when Iran recognized them very early and even helped them initially during the Karabakh war, but Azerbaijan showed a lot of Pan-Turkist and Pan-Azeri tendacies including irredentism against Iran, so relations soared and continued to get worse as Azerbaijan continues its policies (unpopular to both the IR regime and Iranians people-except a minority of Azeri ethno-nationalists) and got very close with Israel (unpopular to the Islamic regime)
I believe it's because he sees NATO members as satellites of the USA, that's at least the narrative Russian propaganda supports. Following the classic propaganda lesson to accuse others what you are guilty of, Putin and Russia would actually prefer to have their neighbours (i.e. mostly Ex-Soviet states) act in their favour. He doesn't really care about the nations and their peoples themselves, he only would like them to contribute to the Russian world and is very quick to let them fall, especially if they start to look for other allies and inspiration in the so hated west. Armenia conducting some military exercises with the US a few weeks prior to this incident (after Russian "peacekeepers" did nothing for months to de-escalate the situation, mind you) is just the excuse they need for not supporting them. Funnily enough, Russian propagandists probably still call for Armenia to support Russia in the Ukrainian war.
it's probably because the president of Armenia himself said that Artsakh is Azerbaijan's territory and he wouldn't do anything if Azerbaijan invaded, so at that point what is Russia gonna do? Liberate Artsahk and also force Armenia to support Artsahk again? Armenia surrendered this portion of Armenians to muslims to be exterminated.
I would also like to add that the President of Armenia,Nikol Pashinyan, has recently been relying more and more on the West, as for example the recent military exercises between Armenian and American soldiers on September 11, maybe that is why Putin did not want to help Armenia.
Armenia doesn't recognize Artsakh's independence. Pashinyan is just blaming Russia for a problem CREATED by Armenia after all. Artsakh wouldn't have been a thing had Armenia not invaded Azerbaijan in the 90s (which also received help from the diaspora). Also, Armenia had a Maidan-like change in government some time ago, and Pashinyan is pro-West. The US soldiers were doing exercises in Armenia when Azerbaijan declared it's 'counter-terrorist operation.' Putin isn't 'ignoring' Armenia's call for help. There is no such call for help to begin with. This is how it went: Azerbaijan invades Artsakh in 2023 Armenia: we order our troops to not fire back, this isn't our business The world: OK. Armenia: WHY IS RUSSIA DOING NOTHING!??? Literally no power in this region recognizes Artsakh. Russia at least invaded Ukraine AFTER it recognized DNR and LNR's independence. Why would it invade Azerbaijan when not even Armenia has the guts to recognize its brotherly state in the Karabakh. I remember when there were talks for France to officially recognize Artsakh. Ultimately all of this 'foreign support' mean nothing and Artsakh has been left alone. Just like the Armenians were 100 years ago. Pretty sure Pashinyan wants Russia to be baited into a conflict in the Caucasus where it has absolutely nothing to win, especially when he himself is no friend of Russia. Ah, also, Armenia's authorities seem to do a better job at jailing people that are just tired of Pashinyan's cowardice, than at helping their brothers maintain their autonomy in Artsakh.
@@AndrewVasirov Blah blah Putin is not to blame blah blah and I can't understand why all Russian allies are becoming closer to the USA and Europe it must be a color revolution not Russia's fault blah blah blah
Sadly I’m disappointed you did not mention that during the first Karabakh war in the 90s where Armenia was victorious and not only took Karabakh but the surrounding Azeri districts, that there was massive forced expulsion of nearly 700K Azeris from the Armenian occupied regions surrounding Karabakh. Those Azeris have a right to return but are often neglected.
@@mateopribyl9218we are talking about Karabakh . From Armenia yep from there more than 300000 Azerbaijanis cleansed. Where you bend it Azerbaijan is more right.
You did forget to mention how Azerbaijan had already been blocking the Lachin Corridor for 9 months before the September 19 invasion, slowly starving Artsakh and weakening them so by the time the invasion happened they just gave up almost immediately.
@@Samuil-iq6ebDoes kind of symbolize the unusual Turkic domination of the region though, and the Russian foreign ministry doesn't even seem to care, as far as maps and history go Armenia has existed for over 2000 years in one way or another so that won't change.
@@LaVaZ000 What? Armenia started to do military drills with usa. If they stayed close to Russia there would be no war at all but hey, this happens when you publicly denounce your protector
@@LaVaZ000 Except: no. What you say is bs. Armenia existed in 323BC-428, 654-1045, 1239-1360 and 1918-1920, so 1264 years. And Turks have dominated the area since the XIth century, it's by no means unusual. Grab a book some time, it doesn't bite.
@@Samuil-iq6eb Armenia is too small with no impact on global affiars for it to be pivotal. Not much would change around world if Armenia stopped existing just another small war
Unrecognized states are so interesting to look into. From an artistic point of view, they have such a cool flag and coat of arms! The flag having such a unique stepped pattern reminiscent of ornaments and patterns of traditional Armenian carpets, representing the mountains, forming a westward arrow showing they wanted union with Armenia, and showing that it is separated, is such good symbolism. On the coat of arms, the shield in the center has the We Are Our Mountains monument which is in Stepanakert and depicts an old man and woman hewn from volcanic tuff, representing the mountain people of the region. The sculpture was completed in 1967 by Sargis Baghdasaryan. But the eagle part of the coat of arms is also quite cool! The edges of the six feathers of the eagle's outstretched wings turn into an ornament and represent the six vowel letters of the Armenian alphabet. Below them are 36 feathers, which was inspired by a quote by Gevorg Emin when he said that a 36-member regiment defended his nation. He was referring to the letters of the Armenian alphabet. The crown of Tigran the Great above, indicating the wealth and power of the Artaxiads, symbolizes its eternity. Wheat ears symbolize abundance and hospitality, each ear consists of 13 grains with one guiding and the rest paired according to the number of months of the year, stating they pray so they could have bread all year long.
There mustn't be a better example of a 'moving' ethno-linguistic group than the Turkic peoples. They started out from Eastern Siberia (Mongolia, Altai) and now are main ethnic constituents of various countries, like Turkey, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, etc.
In short, it is hard to think of any other ethnolinguistic entity in history that conquered so vast a territory and founded so many empires and states, also contributing to world civilizations. The history of the Turkic peoples was an important factor in world history for more than a millennium until the emergence of Europe as the world's dominant power. What happened in the Turkic world often affected the history of China, Central Asia, the Middle East, South Asia, and Europe. One may also argue that world history began with the "Turko-Mongol" empire created by Chinggis Khan. In the contemporary world, Turkic-speaking nations form six states (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, and Turkey/Türkiye) and several "autonomous" units in Russia (the republics of Chuvash, Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, Altai, Khakassia, Tuva, and Sakha) and China (the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region). Turkic peoples also reside as minority groups in several other countries, including Mongolia and Iran, among others. It would therefore be difficult to acquire a comprehensive understanding of world history as well as our present world without studying the history of the Turkic peoples.
I mean. Im Hispanic and i live in the southern tip of the americas. That too is a moving ethnolinguistic group. You could say the same with the anglos and australia
It's too bad that Armenia doesn't have great relations with Georgia either, which would have been a natural ally in the region as both are Christian nations who have suffered under Russian and Soviet imperial rule
We have great relations , just Georgia is trying to have good realtions with Azerbejan and Turcky as well . Frankly i reapect their approche for what they have risk life of there Soliders ?
@@mateopribyl9218 that’s what Armenia wants to do. They threatened Russia last year that they’d leave CSTO and ask the west for help against the conflict with Azerbaijan
@@mateopribyl9218 but the west (Turkey, so don't think other west countries will support Armenia) are supporting their enemy, you think they will just become instantly friends with their enemy just because their enemy won the war?
@@TakedaS115 Armenia has refused to do joint military exercises with Russia and did one with NATO, in Armenia, literally a few weeks ago. They are not allied with Russia, Armenia is trying hard to be part of the NATO club. They have been for over 5 years, since Pashinyan became president.
The Turks will be upset in the comments over claiming the Ottoman Empire committing genocide against the Armenians (which is a historic fact the Turks deny).
Oh boy it didnt end with the Ottoman regime by any stretch, the Balkan and Causasus mountain peoples seem obsessed with ethnic cleansing some of the most mixed and diverse regions to be found
I feel like when it comes to this conflict people subconsciously side with either the Christian or Muslim side without even being religious. Like let's say that instead this was about Cyprus taking over North Cyprus. Who would you root for here? Cyprus because they're the rightful owner? North Cyprus' Turkish people because they've existed in the territory for centuries at this point and controlled it for decades? Or whichever is part of your cultural and religious sphere. OR perhaps you side with NATO or not-NATO.
It's because religion is easily the single biggest defining factor in civilization Regardless of the very recent (~1700s onwards) developments in politics and society, religion has shaped and molded cultures into some pretty well defined areas of the world because its teachings and ethics tend to become engrained with the population and their societies (i.e. the Dao in east Asia, the Bible and Abrahamic law in the West, the Quran in the Islamic world) at a very basic fundamental level Like, you can be Western, and anywhere with a Christian majority or history, whether that place is Russia, Canada or Uruguay, you will most likely feel somewhat decently at a "familiar spot" because the cultures aren't 100% THAT different from eachother; values, core societal aspects, core ethics, ideologies, worldviews, they tend to be the same (i.e. like how the Communist Manifesto is literally a remix of the Bible) But then you go to Nepal or Morocco, and even tho they aren't that far away from these centers, they seem to be entirely different universes As a result, you subconsciously tend to side with what feels to be the closest to you, the most familiar
… probably. There are a few conflicts where i feel the christian side was the bad one (especially bosnia) but in a lot of cases i lean instinctively on the side of the christians, especially in west asia/the levant. Both because i am a christian and because i know by and large the’be suffered enough. (And obvs, as someone mentioned it after me, christians tend to be indigenous)
Cyprus because many of the Turks of northern Cyprus are colonists that settled there within the past few decades. Turkey already took all of Asia Minor and Eastern Thrace from the Greeks, they don't need Cyprus too.
It's weird because Christian Armenia is friends with Iran while the Azeris are funded and armed by the Isrealis. So you have Christians westerners throwing their religious brethren to the Jewish and Muslim wolves while another Muslim nation backs the little Christian one. Money and real politik trump's religion in the real world, apparently.
In both cases I would support Cyprus AND Armenia as it was both their land for millennia's until a few decades ago so they got invaded and conquered. This is going with your point of ignoring religion and only focusing on who's land it was before invasions.
Mistake: the Soviets never gave Artsakh to Azerbaijan, simply because "Artsakh" did not evdn officially exist as an entity. There was a war between Armenia and Azerbaijan over Zangezur, Karabakh and Nakhchivan. Karabakh was recognized as a de facto territory of Azerbaijan at the Paris peace conference in 1920 before the Soviet rule. During the Soviet rule it was officially RETAINED within Azerbaijan, not given to it.
Yes, let Azerbajian anex that place they lost in the 90s, that totally won't set a precedent for some other nation to annex some places it lost in the 90s.... The West going "oh well, anyway" when the Azeri invaded Artsakh was absolutely a major incentive to launch the SMO.
@@milafirouzi2010It is a change. The fact that it isn't recognised does not mean that it doesn't exist. On maps, in the event that Azerbaijan annexes the territory, most maps will go from showing dotted lines to showing nothing at all.
Feel like Turkey and Azaerbaijan will just gobble up Armenia at this rate. And NATO and Russia will just watch it all happen. Armenia has been forgotten by the world and its sad.
This is why you can't trust the West. If Europe and America won't fight for other Christians. What makes you think they care about the state of the rest of the world.
Armenia kinda brought it on themselves by antagonizing all their neighbors, committing the ethnic cleansing in this conflict, and letting themselves get corrupt and not develop their military and infrastructure. I also don’t them to disappear but it is reap what you sow situation
As always, the question is WHOSE territorial integrity? And what does that mean for ethnic groups that do not fit the model for that nation state? Usually that means assimilation or ethnic cleansing.
In this case I sadly feel ethnic cleansing is the only outcome, Azerbaijan has made it clear their feelings towards Armenians one only needs to look at how the murder of Gurgen Margaryan was viewed by the Azeris.
Territorial Integrity means NOT having an insurgency that rules your land by its own military laws economy etc. This is trivial to understand. I also hope there will be no ethnic cleansing but there will definitely be major tensions, native population also is trying to escape.
@@turkepic3637 i do agree that there shouldn't be an insurgency, however that doesnt justify the fact Azerbaijan had to starve Artsakh and invade it. If Azerbaijan tried to solve this by using peace and proposing things like more autonomy or no discrimination agaisnt armenians, this conflict wouldnt be necessary and the insurgency would most likely go away. For example, that's what happened for example in Europe with Basque Country nationalists becoming peaceful after accepting a treaty from europeans
My condolences to all the Armenians, especially those from Artsakh. Your country has been cursed by geopolitics. I hope the situation changes. Artsakh deserves freedom! May the blood that has been shed not be forgotten.
@@rashadmammadli4805 The reason they are "cursed by geopolitics" is because the Turks ethnically cleansed two thirds of the territory they used to inhabit a century ago.
Don't forget that Azerbaijan imposed a blockade on Artsakh for nearly a year before the invasion. Starving 120,000 people and preventing them from getting medical care.
@@rashadmammadli4805 If they cared they wouldn't have blockaded them to begin with. It is like cutting off someone's hand and then trying to give them a band-aid. And when the victim refuses, you try to act like you wanted to help.
@@stanchpandora3658 Fair point but you forgot to mention that the whole point of the blockade was because armenian government would illegally send weapons to the Karabakh region. Azerbaijan put a stop to it by blocking the Lachin corridor, but proposed a new one such as Agdam corridor. armenians rejected it because it is connected to Baku.
@@rashadmammadli4805 was there any proof of illegal weapons being sent or was it just fabricated? And as for the Agdam corridor I made that analogy so you know why it was refused. To me this was just a ploy so then the Armenians living there would be too weak to defend themselves.
Armenia dont recognize Artsakh as their territory or independent state. Its officially azerbaijanian territory. Russia have a treat to protect only officially recognized territories of Armenia. You should note this important fact in a video.
Shhhhh, let them think Russia wont do anything because they cant, dont give actual reasons for it, helps war propaganda cuz Russia weak and bad At least thats the take away from most folks in the comments so far
@@chimera9818 With how much Azerbaijan is acting like Turkey, its a not a hard equation to reason out. Ambition + Power + Entitlement = Ample justification for invasion and ethnic domination. Armenians in Azerbaijan are going to end up like Kurds in Turkey and you know it.
@@hellbach8879no we dont and do not try justifying anything towards us with these retarded claims we had enough of these western bs. teaching us manners while they f.up so many regions and people like our neighbours Syria and Iraq
It's not a "minor" mistake to misidentify who Iran is aligned with. Azerbaijan has not only aligned with Turkey, but more importantly, Israel & the United States. Azerbaijan was a persistent US ally in the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan. I personally served along side Azeri troops stationed at the Haditha Dam in Iraq, where the AZs controlled perimeter security, & had a REALLY good reputation with US forces. Azeri alliance structure for the last 25 years is key to understanding how they were able to finally make this operation work, & you completely ignored it. You need to redo your video.
@@hasanaliakhmedov6826 I was a Marine in Haditha in 2006-2007, I believe the AZs were guarding the Haditha Dam/South Dam Village from 2004-2009. Both from my personal experience and from other Marines I knew who served in Haditha at different times, the AZs were always considered well respected & appreciated for their work. No drama, just complete professionals. And the Haditha Triangle during that time was always one of the highest casualty areas in Iraq. A very dangerous place. But nobody had anything but good things to say about how the AZs did their job. Based on my experience, I'll always be biased in favor of Azeris.
You can't compare the population of Nakhchivan and Karabakh. Besides, why would it be necessary to do, considering Azerbaijan is much stronger than Armenia and planning to have a corridor that will conncect Nakhchivan and Azerbaijan that goes through armenia.
@@elmosaynomoreWesterners don't care because the Armenian bias (due to internal politics in the west) is extremely strong. They can't even recognize that their own countries recognize NK as part of Azerbaijan, which is laughable.
@@quisqueyanguy120I guarantee 80% of people in my country could not find Armenia or Azerbaijan on a map, much less would they be biased in favor of either one.
Interesting how you neglected to mention that Armenia took over most of the Azerbaijani land thst lief between it and Artsakh, driving out all Azeris by force from those areas.
This isn't "supporting territorial integrity". This is expansionism and domination, simple as. Azerbaijan has always been more powerful than Armenia due to its oil supply and size, and its always used its strength to bully them.
Armenia did kinda brought it on themselves by antagonizing all their neighbors , aligning themselves with Russia, ethnically cleansing Azeris from the region mentioned and not putting effort on their military and economic. I also don’t wants them to disappear but it is you reap what you sow situation
...It's not exactly their own territory...😅 Not when the people that live there have been there since for several milenenia before even the idea of the Azeri nation or the Turkic language groups existed. Stalin made the decision to make war inevitable if nations would break away. This war is his creation. For whatever it's worth (not mch), NKR had a special designation in the Soviet law which which meant it was already autonomous from the Azeri SSR
@@RTAvakian Good thing the Soviets don't exist anymore, do they? And it doesn't exactly count when those people that have supposedly inhabited the region for millennia have to resort to genociding the local population to create their supposed autonomous zone. Sounds more like lebensraum to me.
i really like this channel but i gotta say i'm pretty dissapointed with the biased narrating here. no, azerbaijan isn't "invading, occupying, annexing or conquering" karabakh. karabakh is an integral land of azerbaijan by international law and treaties, recognized so by every single country on earth including armenia, and the UN. there are several UN resolutions stating that the armenian occupation of karabakh is illegal and they must retreat their forces immediately, which armenia didn't listen. furthermore, armenia invaded and occupied the armenian-majority region of karabakh AND the 7 cities surrounding it, which all had azerbaijani majority! around 1 million azerbaijanis were forced out of karabakh and the 7 cities around it by armenian forces in the first war. it is really sad how you didn't point that out.
So what happens if the UN ever rules against you? Im going to take a guess and say you'll only ever lean on them for legitimacy as long as it favors you. Very dishonest of you.
UN resolutions: In 1993, the Security Council of the UN (Security Council) adopted resolutions 822, 853, 874, and 884 on the Armenian- Azerbaijani conflict. Each resolution was adopted as a result of the occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh and other territories of the Republic of Azerbaijan by the Armenian Armed Forces. Before creating content please do the survey carefully.
I like this channel in general BUT "Azerbaijan grows closer to Iran" is the most inaccurate comment which can ever be made for this conflict, and displays total ignorance about the conflict. Iran is the greatest supporter of Armenia regarding karabakh dispute for its own geopolitical reasons; in fact, more than Russia.
There is no such thing as a rebellious Azeri population in Iran. Azeris while turkic are culturally Iranian they share customs and religion with other iranians while the azeris in the north have been russified culturally and had their religion wiped out by the soviets. an azeri in iran has nothing in common to one in azerbaijan other than language.
You forgot to mention Armenian ethnic cleansing of Azerbaijanis in the occupied area in ‘92 such as Khojaly massacre. There is no good or bad in this fight. Both sides played dirty.
Because it doesn’t work for westerners earing of the conflict and doesn’t like to learn the people they decide were the underdog are actually acted wrongly and analogized all their neighbors in all situations of this conflict and now reap what they sow
And what allies are going to help them? They asked the UN for help back on 2020, they tried to apporach western nations and were ignored. Then there is the fact that the EU replaced their purchases of gas from "a country that is invading another", only to then start buying from Azerbajan, which is doing the same thing . . .
@@CountSpartula Armenian terrorist genociders killed thousands of Azerbaijani Turk civilians including kids and ethnically cleansed them by force. Azerbaijan now claimed its land back from evil terrorists. You cope.
Imagine Gallo-Britons in France waging war on France and seeking complete independence + They lay ''historical claim'' almost all of Southern Europe since their forefathers were once native to those lands and got subjected of countless genocides since the Roman times + demands of compensation for all those years and lives. Good luck Armenian brothas. Sorry but you have no chance to get what you asking for guys :(
Eye for an eye was the upper limits in both Tanakh and original Hammurabi law and basically meant you can’t take more than was taken from you . Only modern people act like it was minimum. Also let’s see what your reaction if you got region of your country conquered, your people ethnically cleansed and got it robbed in your face for the next 30 years by Armenia that ally with your no 1 Iran and you will get why the war happened
Unlikely Russia recognises those two states, and thus far more interested in it's future, plus it would be a dagger to Sochi an important naval base, Moldova taking transnistria I think is far more likely, they are unenforceable, not even recognized by Russia, why they haven't yet I don't know
Don't share wrong information please.Could you please show me where was Artsax? Is this toponim recognised by any legal organisations? There is Karabakh and this is historical Azerbaijani land.Becouse in Turkic languages is Kara-Black and Bag-Garden.
Azerbaijan as an independent nation has never ruled Artsakh. Nor did it have a valid legal claim, as Artsakh's referendum was legal under Soviet law. But the world won't recognize it as an independent nation because it is politically inconvenient to open up the Pandora's Box that is 'Soviet autonomous regions had a right to independence'. There were a lot of autonomous regions in the Soviet Union. Artsakh is collateral damage resulting from political pragmatism and global indifference. Even though Soviet law at the time had a procedure for autonomous regions to declare independence, and Artsakh followed this procedure, the world would rather pretend otherwise because recognizing its independence could give legitimacy to other secessionist movements and cause turmoil throughout the entire post-soviet world. And Artsakh is also really isolated and far away from any of the major powers except Russia which betrayed Armenia.
Artsakh is to be completely dissolved and dismantled by January 1, 2024 and to be annexed into Azerbaijan. 70% of Artsakh has now fled to Armenia :/ very unfortunate stuff
Unfortunate? Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of Azeris who were driven out of their homes in the first war, Justice was done. Armenians can return and live there under Azerbaijani laws and nationality.
Have you made a video on history of Azerbaijan? I couldn’t find it on you channel, there is Georgia and Armenia, Kazakhstan and Belorus. Azerbaijan is not interesting for you cus it is muslim state? I would like you to look closer at this country, you might be nicely surprised.🙏
Firstly, title of video was wrong. It must be ''Azerbaijan retakes Artsakh''. Name of Artsak was derived from Turkish word of Arsak (“Ər Sak” in Azerbaijani). There are 2 possibilities regarding the word Arsak: 1) It may derived from Turkic Saka (Sak) tribe. They settled in Azerbaijan, in the Kura-Araz lowland from 7th century BC. So, it may be meaned ''Saka man''. 2) It may be derived from Caucasian Arsakids, was branch of Arsakids, ruled Greater Iran before Sassanids. They were descended from Turkish Sak tribe. The basics of Nagorno-Karabakh dispute were expansion of Russia into Transcaucasus at the expense of Kachar Iran and Ottoman Empire and Turkish genocide took place during process of independence of Balkan nations from Ottoman Empire between 1804-1922. Perpetrator of it is Russia.
The sad thing is that if Putin intervened for his ally of Armenia instead of invading Ukraine, nearly everyone in the West would be supporting him. So much for him being a chess player...
TIL Ukraine is now trying to conquer Donetsk and Luhansk While I don’t like Azerbaijan’s government nor it’s bullying of Armenia thanks to Armenia’s isolation, Nagorno-Karabakh region is a territory of Azerbaijan and using words like “conquered” is incredibly disingenuous in my opinion
Russia themselves did the same in 90’s and 2000’s when the Chechen’s wanted independence from Russia. The Russian governments and eventually Putin’s response was to bomb the living hell out of them.
@@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 how political borders came into being doesn’t annul them, and calling Azerbaijan’s reoccupation of Nagorno-Karabakh, “conquest” is double standards
The summary of what we see playing out is that it doesn't really matter if you like Russia or hate Russia: it would seem that when put to the test they are a weaker ally than Turkey and Iran. Anyone who is dependent on Russia for security has better luck relying on Turkey and Iran. As a Westerner I can't say I am happy about Iran but I'd bet their military was more dangerous than Russia's frankly. I haven't the foggiest how the lines South of Russia will shake out, but history books will record "So when Russia got distracted with a larger conflict" And they will say it was a strategically *dumb* move to attack Ukraine.
Here just as a reminder that when Azeris invaded Artsakh this time Armenia’s army was in a joint exercise with the US army on armenian soil just after refusing to participate in the CSTO’s one
I know people have their land, house and savings, and that in this kind of situation they just have to leave everything behind, but they could at least be paid for leaving their homeland. I mean, I know it would never happen, but would be just a little better
Why would a country like Azeribaijan who already clearly feels justified in the annexation of Artsakh help any of the Armenians living there especially as there is quite serious hatred instilled into their armed forces. For God's sake an Azeri Lieutenant butchered a Armenian Lieutenant when they were at a NATO course in Hungary and he was hailed as a hero back home for this brutal murder.
@@hiabyss_kiss I know they wouldn't, I'm just being honest about what I feel about it. The problem with this kind of question is that when they hate each other there's nothing else that could happen than killing
As an Azerbaijani people i don't understand your point. During the first Qarabag war my people suffered a lot they were massacered in a very terrifying way(like the one in Khojaly )and they were not even given a time to leave (during the invasion of Khalbacar inhabitants were given one day to leave but we give them more than a month after second war) nobody gave any help for these people so why we are supposed to do that?
@@hiabyss_kiss Qarabag is internationally recognised as a territory of Azerbaijan so there's no need to feel justified and also you are talking like armenians don't hate us at all. They are the ones who burned Azerbaijani flag during the open of European championship.
@@rsadniftliyev8059 that's rough, bro. My point is that civilians are only trying to live and they must at least have an option to leave safely. News about the Azeri-Armenian wars were and are rare in my country, so I didn't knew about this details. Peace!
Dark times we’re in again in the post war era where countries are changing the maps by force… irrespective of the populaces wishes. Now all the Azerbaijan/Armenia maps all have to be updated. This whole affair really demonstrates Russia dwindling power and their inability or lack of want to support their allies, Armenia made a cataclysmic mistake to rely on the Russian Federation. I hope the Armenian people are spared from crimes against humanity.
Azerbaijan is allied with Turkey and Turkey is in NATO. Armenia can't really join NATO because of that. Therefore the only other option is Iran and Russia
Its really sad that "haha funny line" people still have effect til this day (though lets be real, even if the lines were ''right" we still would had some issues)
It's a shame what the fate of Armenia turned out to be, a rump state with a history dating back to the Roman days. At least the border look cleaner now.
Armenia never had a continuous political existence doesn't matter if it dates back to the Roman days the past millennia of it's history consists of getting dominated by Turks, Mongols, Russians, etc.
As u said, it's a sovereign part of Azerbaijan. But the population thing, by this logic, then Scotland, Kurdistan, Catalonia and so on should get independence & i know that the British, Spanish, Turkish, Persian & Arabic people won't be happy 'bout that.
@@erenaygun4157Very true. Same with Quebec and Louisiana leaving Canada and America. I guess theres a reason why places arent divided this way anymore (Im just not quite sure I know what it is)
@@erenaygun4157 The British literally let Scotland vote and Scotland chose to remain in the UK. Artsakh voted and even though the vote was fair and legal it was ignored.
@@stanchpandora3658 It is Azeri land. Period. It's recognised as such. Enforcing ethnonational borders is ludicrous and just is an incentive for ethnic cleansing.
Be warned to readers. The caucusus is like the balkans of the east so expect turkish and armenian bots talking a lot of bad stuff to eachother and talking alot of what aboutism.
Except it’s not really balanced at all. Turkey has had a long history of persecuting and murdering Armenians and other ethnic groups, whereas Armenia’s history is largely clean in that regard. Often times the Turks and Azeris will make up so-called “massacres” by the Armenians but they’ve proven to be false and propaganda.
Well, if not even ARmenia under Pashinyan fought for it why is everyone thinking Russia should invade Azerbaijan and do all the work that not even Armenia cared to try?
You do know that Azerbaijan doesn't even care about armenia except the Zangezur region which taken away from Azerbaijan and given to Armenia by stalin which created the Nakhcivan exclave.
@@armenian_cartographer_neo Dont worry bro, Im turkish and Azeri and trust me I would never wish for my countries to invade the mainland armenia. You guys deserve a country that can be called home too so I hope this drama ends with this last karabakh conflict.
It is an understatement that Armenia is just unable to help The government is unwilling to do anything about it at all to the point that french has stronger verbal condemnation than Armenia. Also there r some armenian army personnel left there as well as their weapons after 2020 karabakh. PM simply say no Armenian army there and throw the local forces and the Armenian unit there under the bus.
Even russia abondoned them. This their fault. They try to be move to west and make russia angry. They should think about what they doing first if they want be happy.
@@Hunter-cx6Armenia never moved to the west, they put their cards with Russia and Russia abandoned them. Plain and simple, they got shafted by Russia because Russia is selfish.
@@Hunter-cx6russia never helped they are the reason this conflict is happening in the first place when they drew the borders specifically to cause a conflict so they could possibly get involved and take control in the area.
This is you who didn't accept our existence in our own lands.You didn't wanted and don't want to live together with Azerbaijanis in their own country their own cities or villages. How ridiculous!
@@ianhomerpura8937 no such ethnic cleansing happened in 1918. You can’t produce any such record. Armenians were living there before 1918 and after 1918. At no point Azeris expelled Armenians. Even now Azeris aren’t expelling Armenians.
I doubt it was ethnic cleansing. Tens of thousands of armenians and Azerbaijanis lost their homes because of the 1992 war. The difference is Armenian can just return home. And Azerbaijanis can't because the border is militarized. Which is unfortunate for them.
Why didn't you mention that the regions where the Azerbaijani majority lived were occupied by Armenians during the First Karabakh War? And the displacement of about one million Azerbaijanis from their homeland during the war
because there are decades, centuries even of ethnic conflicts between azeris and armenians, and you don't get to pick which one explains best the next one. it's on you (yes you specifically) to be the bigger man and stop, if you're even capable of it
I'm afraid it looks like Armenians will go the way of the Assyrians this century. Armenia really should have grit its teeth and annexed Artsakh officially in 1994 instead of the precarious limbo that's now been ended..
It's terrible to see these two countries at each other's throats. Both the Azeris and Armenians have suffered long from this rivalry when they should coexist instead.
It's hard to undo a history of tension unfortunately. Just take a look at British India... I mean India and Pakistan. India and Pakistan have a really bad relationship with each other. Why? Blame the British.
There is also another change in the map! If you go on google maps on the 37°45'20.5"N 24°04'32.5"E location you will see a peninsula, which thanks to the climate change is now COMPLETELY and ISLAND! I have a picture of how it is now and how it was before. Contanct me if you want proof for the peninsula being an island.
France maybe give Marseille to Armenia which consider armenians as their little sister.Then Marseillle name should change with Martsakh.Long live Armenia,Long live Martsakh
The Armenians were always going to lose Nagorno-Karabakh. The Azeri’s are rich from oil, Baku and got advanced weaponry from Turkey in particular. The Russians let the Azeri’s waltz in and take the place, so it would free up some more soliders as cannon fodder For Ukraine. I cannot believe that a F1 race is held in Baku Azerbaijan when they know it is ruled by a dictatorship regime, but the Azeri’s can buy anything I guess.
Iran is actually a major supporter of Armenia. Arguably a much bigger one than Russia. And Armenia has been distancing itself from Russia for years now, and trying to get closer to USA and NATO. Which is a big reason why Russia and Iran did not intervene against Azerbaijan. I would even say Russia and Iran goaded Azerbaijan into intervening.
Iran less so (regarding giving Azerbaijan the greenlight to invade Artsakh), now that Azerbaijan is eyeing territory in Armenia proper, Iran has said (really has been saying) they will not allow this and have mobilized troops to the border multiple times
@@programablenuance Iran doesn't want Turkey and Azerbiajan to have a land corridor, yes. But this invasion is probably meant as a way to send a message to Armenia. Don't get any closer to NATO, or you will regret it. Maybe as a way to collapse the pro-West government and have a neutral minded government installed? I don't know. I do know is that Azerbaijan wouldn't do this unless he got greelight from the Kremlin and from Tehran. But in the end, for both of these nations, a emboldened Azerbaijan swallowing up Armenia is preferable to another NATO outpost in their northern/southern border.
And I can easily say whatever you say is completely wrong. Iran would be stupid to goad Azerbaijan to get more territory when there's more Azerbaijanis in Iran than Azerbaijan itself. Look up geopolitics next time.
How can Azerbaijan conquer its own lands? Karabah is Azerbaijan territory, you will not find Artsakh on the map cus it is Karabah and it has always been part of Azerbaijan. Armenian citizens lived peacefully in Karabah during Soviet times and after the collapse they decided to form an independent state. Azerbaijan disagreed but still lost 20% of lands in the 1st Karabah War. Artsakh is only how armenians call this land, nobody else. I wish you have studied the topic better from both sides before making these types of videos. Azerbaijan didnt conquer, it freed its 20 percent of lands that was occupied by armenians for 30 years. After 30 years only ruins and destruction was found on that land. Azerbaijan is pouring millions into reconstructing it, because we love and care for our land. Armenia occupied not only Karabah but also 7 other districts of Azerbaijan with majority of Azeri population. Millions and millions of refugees had to flee from their hometowns. Get your facts straight and cover the story from both sides please in the future. Dont speak only to armenians, talk to azeris too.
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Minor correction: Iran is closer to Armenia, not Azerbaijan.
Its ok
LITERALLY UNWATCHABLE 😢. PLEASE DELETE YOUR CHANNEL BRUH.
- Sarcastic mentally challenged buddy.
How
minor correction? i think it is big
@@Yamanclient i think he meant "politically" closer to armenia
One mistake:Iran is actually closer to Armenia
Tho Aserbaijan is like Iran Shia, Iran is scared of a too strong Azerbaijan that could take its northwest which is mostly Azeri (it actually has more Azeris then Azerbaijan (10 Million vs 15 Million)). Furthermore Azerbaijan's closest allies are Turkey and Israel. Both of whom hate Iran
So Armenia and Azerbaijan turned form a Russo-Turkish proxy to a Turkish-Iranian proxy (both of these are rivalries that date back centuries)
it is northwest Iran that is mostly Azerbaijani, but yes.
@@Kestrel-777 Thanks for pointing that out
Turkey and Iran hate each other? I knew they aren't best friends, they see each other more as trading partners and occasional disturbances in each other's Geopolitical plans. But hate?
Calling it a Turkish-Iranian proxy war is laughable. Armenia has nowhere near the level of support and direct involvement from Iran that Russia used to provide Armenia. Right now Armenia stands alone…
@@CK-md3cjThat’s because we hate everyone. “Only friend of a Turk is a Turk” 😊
I think Armenia will not have a good future.Because its geography forces Armenia to be dependent on its neighbors.For example, when the Turks closed their borders, the country was stunned and they had to approach Iran.Since Armenia has no chance of gaining territory, the country will be a mountain piece that other states will use to intimidate other states.
Do keep in mind only trade through Azerbaijan and Turkey are blocked not travel/work purposed visits
@@mikethequestioningpineappl5083Dude thats the point 💀.
@@hasank1111 Just trade through Georgia or stop provoking their neighbour states then? Armenia funded terrorist groups against Azerbaijan and Turkey and their government still supports a "Greater Armenia"
Also keep in mind that a major sticking point between Armenia and Turkey/Azerbaijan has been eliminated, and it's very likely that there will be some degree of rapprochement.
@@BloodRider1914 It is true, but the real rapprochement will come with the resolution of the events of 1915 (the truth has a bad habit of coming out even if it is covered up (I am saying this for both sides, so I will not say which side is right)) and I hope Turkey will take steps in this regard, one of our problems with bordering states. In this way, we will be one step closer to peace. Otherwise, if I had the right to say something, I would tell Armenia to "go and unite with Georgia"
It isn't "mostly" unrecognized, it hasn't been recognized by ANY UN member state, not even Armenia! It's only been recognized by three unrecognized countries, Transnistria, South Ossetia, and Abkhazia, with the latter two being recognized by a few members. Also, Iran is a big ally of Armenia, not Azerbaijan. The reason Iran sides with Armenia is because the cultural links between Persians and Armenians is a tale as old as time, Azerbaijan loves Turkey and Israel, and there are A LOT of Azeris in the northwest of Iran aka Iranian Azerbaijan and they don't want said Azeris to breakaway and join Azerbaijan. And Iran has stated that they won't let Azerbaijan block the Armenian-Iranian border.
It wouldn't be the first time Iranian Azerbaijan broke away from Iran, as they did so during the Iran crisis of the late 1940s when the Soviets refused to leave Iran and created two states in the Iranian Azerbaijan region, the Azerbaijan People's Government and the Kurdish Republic of Mahabad. The Azerbaijan People's Government was led by the Azerbaijani Democratic Party who was pan-Turkist and wanted to potentially unite with the Azerbaijan SSR. It lasted from November 1945 until December 1946 when the Iranian army reentered after an agreement was reached between them and Iran in June of that year. The Kurdish Republic of Mahabad on the other hand only lasted between January and December 1946.
Well said Kim Jong Un
The Caucasus States have more in common with each other than they have with any outsider false friends or false foes.
If there was any chance of them unifying all three together they would have a stronger chance of not being manipulated or abused or anything.
They might have some ancient grudges but with Russia, Turkey, Iran, Greece and India for close neighbors surely they must understand that the powerful countries will each be tempted to exploit and conquer the weak.
And it's actually worse for small countries in some ways because while I think India is smart enough to look at Ukraine and decide "don't underestimate defenders in the first place. Perhaps even if we think can win, maybe we can't and that would be a failure even in battle outcomes even before people decry it morally"
Iran, however, may look at Russia and think "bah! We can surely do better than that!" And wish to be more aggressive than it otherwise would have been.
I don't know about Turkey but ask the Armenians what they think of Turkey.
Georgia and Armenia have reason to really stick close together and Armenia has a good reason to suggest to Azerbaijan that they simply cannot trust these large and powerful neighbors who might at any time wish for simpler maps to look at.
Yugoslavia failed, but Yugocaucasia well it probably also would not work but banded together they have a better chance at resisting either Iran or Turkey.
I only think Russia is down, they still have two major nearby enemies to fear.
War tempts the hearts of even the best, and I don't think the region is lucky enough to have enough of the best. The idea of the greed for oil is enough all on its own that anyone might turn on the other. Then there is the water.
If Armenia and Azerbaijan settled this in the most unlikely manner of unifying with each other, it would be imo their best shot at not being invaded by Iran someday.
Or Turkey really.
armenia can't recognise artsakh, because if they did they'd be at war with payserbaijan
Azerbaijan ally is turkey
@@Geo-nw9ugthey wouldn’t have any war with Azerbaijan if they didn’t invade them lol
This episode is certainly pretty dark, but geopolitics are rarely feel-good content anyways.
Yes because country regaining land that was conquered from them and their population got ethnically cleansed from is totally the darkest episode he covered (meanwhile Yemeni civil war having more casualties than all the conflicts in Middle East combined)
@@chimera9818the op never said this was the darkest, just that it was dark. Obviously there are worse things that have happened,but that doesn’t take away from what happened here
@@chimera9818It was never conquered from them, it was always Armenia's land
@@Hacker_KamykoWhat on earth are you talking about, its internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan.
@@Hacker_Kamykono it wasn’t and nobody recognized it has Armenia land and not azeri land including are Armenia, are you even learned about the conflict or just Telling me of who you think is the good guys?
Nagorno-Karabakh is not "mostly unrecognised", but fully unrecognised. Not a single UN member recognised it.
Not even Armenia... :/
So basically it was legally by any country: Azerbaijan retaking rebellious province that ethnically cleansed the azeri population from itself
Because it should be part of Armenia, not an independent country
@@chimera9818 lmao good joke
@@legoboy468funny joke, lego boy
No matter what happens, I hope the Armenians in artsakh remain safe
yeah they are safe like germans in poland and czech republic after 1945
me when ottomans 1900's
note I forgot to add: this is a joke we did not really do something like that,but if i had the change,why not do it?
same here
@@xunqianbaidu6917 no they are not. some local armenain leaders are forcing them to leave to make a claim you make now for getting corrupt lobbies money like senator Menendez . All armenians deciding to stay are Azerbaijani citizens and their rights are same as any other citizen of azr
@@spurdosparde430 its funny you use your own monstrosities for framing us with something we dont do
It's kind of morbid how human suffering leads up to just being covered as a map change on this channel.
I miss the times when map change episodes were just peaceful resolutions between nations.
It's even sadder when you realize this channel is probably going to get it more recognition than the media. There's barely any coverage, especially about the blockade that preceded this for 9 months.
Yeah watch the early mapping videos that got us all hooked (ww1 and ww2 etc.) where millions die. Crazy to think 1 pixel change means many people being hurt.
Love your videos but some key points were missed in this video imo:
1. The Soviet Union was very much not better at ethnic border drawing. In fact they were drawn badly on purpose to cause disarray in the republics, as seen by giving Artsakh to Azerbaijan.
2. I wouldn’t really say Iran is an ally of Azerbaijan; in fact, they’ve stated recently that they will not accept any border changes to Armenia proper in response to Azeri military buildup near Armenia’s southern borders.
3. No mention of the Azeri blockade in which the only route connecting Armenia to Artsakh was blocked from sending resources for 9 months, which essentially starved Artsakh into surrendering in 24 hours last week.
I appreciate you shedding light on these events as always 👍🏻
A nine month blockade of food? 120k people living in Armenia before the blockade according to the census? Armenian authorities saying all 120k Armenians will leave for Armenia proper? Humans can only survive for at maximum 1 month without food? Starvation? Tone, something don’t add up here…
@@kayt9627they have their own food production?
The problem is more about other important goods, such as medicine
@@oneproudukrainian2063 yeah that doesn’t jive with the months of “reports” I’ve heard from the Glendale Internet Defense Force that have been saying that Artsakh had been on the brink of starvation since December.
There was also the fact about Stalin forcing entire ethnic populations of people to leave their homelands in the Union. And he wasn’t even Russia himself.
@@brandonlyon730yeah wasn't he Georgian?
3:21 Wrong. Azerbaijan's relations with Iran was only good at the beginning when Iran recognized them very early and even helped them initially during the Karabakh war, but Azerbaijan showed a lot of Pan-Turkist and Pan-Azeri tendacies including irredentism against Iran, so relations soared and continued to get worse as Azerbaijan continues its policies (unpopular to both the IR regime and Iranians people-except a minority of Azeri ethno-nationalists) and got very close with Israel (unpopular to the Islamic regime)
How ironic Putin is always complaining about NATO, and yet here he is ignoring help of one of his own coalition members call for help.
I believe it's because he sees NATO members as satellites of the USA, that's at least the narrative Russian propaganda supports. Following the classic propaganda lesson to accuse others what you are guilty of, Putin and Russia would actually prefer to have their neighbours (i.e. mostly Ex-Soviet states) act in their favour. He doesn't really care about the nations and their peoples themselves, he only would like them to contribute to the Russian world and is very quick to let them fall, especially if they start to look for other allies and inspiration in the so hated west. Armenia conducting some military exercises with the US a few weeks prior to this incident (after Russian "peacekeepers" did nothing for months to de-escalate the situation, mind you) is just the excuse they need for not supporting them.
Funnily enough, Russian propagandists probably still call for Armenia to support Russia in the Ukrainian war.
it's probably because the president of Armenia himself said that Artsakh is Azerbaijan's territory and he wouldn't do anything if Azerbaijan invaded, so at that point what is Russia gonna do? Liberate Artsahk and also force Armenia to support Artsahk again? Armenia surrendered this portion of Armenians to muslims to be exterminated.
I would also like to add that the President of Armenia,Nikol Pashinyan, has recently been relying more and more on the West, as for example the recent military exercises between Armenian and American soldiers on September 11, maybe that is why Putin did not want to help Armenia.
Armenia doesn't recognize Artsakh's independence.
Pashinyan is just blaming Russia for a problem CREATED by Armenia after all. Artsakh wouldn't have been a thing had Armenia not invaded Azerbaijan in the 90s (which also received help from the diaspora).
Also, Armenia had a Maidan-like change in government some time ago, and Pashinyan is pro-West. The US soldiers were doing exercises in Armenia when Azerbaijan declared it's 'counter-terrorist operation.'
Putin isn't 'ignoring' Armenia's call for help. There is no such call for help to begin with.
This is how it went:
Azerbaijan invades Artsakh in 2023
Armenia: we order our troops to not fire back, this isn't our business
The world: OK.
Armenia: WHY IS RUSSIA DOING NOTHING!???
Literally no power in this region recognizes Artsakh. Russia at least invaded Ukraine AFTER it recognized DNR and LNR's independence. Why would it invade Azerbaijan when not even Armenia has the guts to recognize its brotherly state in the Karabakh.
I remember when there were talks for France to officially recognize Artsakh. Ultimately all of this 'foreign support' mean nothing and Artsakh has been left alone. Just like the Armenians were 100 years ago.
Pretty sure Pashinyan wants Russia to be baited into a conflict in the Caucasus where it has absolutely nothing to win, especially when he himself is no friend of Russia.
Ah, also, Armenia's authorities seem to do a better job at jailing people that are just tired of Pashinyan's cowardice, than at helping their brothers maintain their autonomy in Artsakh.
@@AndrewVasirov Blah blah Putin is not to blame blah blah and I can't understand why all Russian allies are becoming closer to the USA and Europe it must be a color revolution not Russia's fault blah blah blah
Sadly I’m disappointed you did not mention that during the first Karabakh war in the 90s where Armenia was victorious and not only took Karabakh but the surrounding Azeri districts, that there was massive forced expulsion of nearly 700K Azeris from the Armenian occupied regions surrounding Karabakh. Those Azeris have a right to return but are often neglected.
He didn’t mention it because it never happened, just blatant Azeri propaganda.
This could be solved by the peace treaty in the 90s, but as far as I know both parties were not interested.
@@mateopribyl9218Armenians not making numbers up challange
Difficulty: Impossible
@@bullmoosevelt4495Yeah 700.000 people suddenly got teleported out of Karabakh,big brain individual here I see.
@@mateopribyl9218we are talking about Karabakh . From Armenia yep from there more than 300000 Azerbaijanis cleansed. Where you bend it Azerbaijan is more right.
You did forget to mention how Azerbaijan had already been blocking the Lachin Corridor for 9 months before the September 19 invasion, slowly starving Artsakh and weakening them so by the time the invasion happened they just gave up almost immediately.
Exactly!
@@pushystyzajchyk6535cry more. You are the real invaders.
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Yeah supply your enemies,what a great tactic to a siege😂
This actually is a pivotal moment in history.
Lol no. You don't know history.
@@Samuil-iq6ebDoes kind of symbolize the unusual Turkic domination of the region though, and the Russian foreign ministry doesn't even seem to care, as far as maps and history go Armenia has existed for over 2000 years in one way or another so that won't change.
@@LaVaZ000 What? Armenia started to do military drills with usa. If they stayed close to Russia there would be no war at all but hey, this happens when you publicly denounce your protector
@@LaVaZ000 Except: no. What you say is bs. Armenia existed in 323BC-428, 654-1045, 1239-1360 and 1918-1920, so 1264 years. And Turks have dominated the area since the XIth century, it's by no means unusual. Grab a book some time, it doesn't bite.
@@Samuil-iq6eb Armenia is too small with no impact on global affiars for it to be pivotal. Not much would change around world if Armenia stopped existing just another small war
Unrecognized states are so interesting to look into. From an artistic point of view, they have such a cool flag and coat of arms! The flag having such a unique stepped pattern reminiscent of ornaments and patterns of traditional Armenian carpets, representing the mountains, forming a westward arrow showing they wanted union with Armenia, and showing that it is separated, is such good symbolism. On the coat of arms, the shield in the center has the We Are Our Mountains monument which is in Stepanakert and depicts an old man and woman hewn from volcanic tuff, representing the mountain people of the region. The sculpture was completed in 1967 by Sargis Baghdasaryan.
But the eagle part of the coat of arms is also quite cool! The edges of the six feathers of the eagle's outstretched wings turn into an ornament and represent the six vowel letters of the Armenian alphabet. Below them are 36 feathers, which was inspired by a quote by Gevorg Emin when he said that a 36-member regiment defended his nation. He was referring to the letters of the Armenian alphabet. The crown of Tigran the Great above, indicating the wealth and power of the Artaxiads, symbolizes its eternity. Wheat ears symbolize abundance and hospitality, each ear consists of 13 grains with one guiding and the rest paired according to the number of months of the year, stating they pray so they could have bread all year long.
Avery strikes again!
Ngl i think their flag is kinda ugly, it looks like a rug I would see at the store and not want
Ur Averywhere
Hey look, CSTO being useless again. What are the odds. Armenia just can't get a break.
NATO going to invade and bring democracy and let everyone be poor equally after the invasion
armenia did choose Russia as an ally, after all....
@@matthewbarabas3052 They didn't though. They are in Russia's sphere as a legacy of the Soviet Union and have remained locked into it ever since.
Azerbaijan didn't attack any CSTO member or territory of any CSTO members, why would CSTO respond?
@@-northrussian7071Armenia is in CSTO
There mustn't be a better example of a 'moving' ethno-linguistic group than the Turkic peoples.
They started out from Eastern Siberia (Mongolia, Altai) and now are main ethnic constituents of various countries, like Turkey, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, etc.
In short, it is hard to think of any other ethnolinguistic entity in history that conquered so vast a territory and founded so many empires and states, also contributing to world civilizations. The history of the Turkic peoples was an important factor in world history for more than a millennium until the emergence of Europe as the world's dominant power. What happened in the Turkic world often affected the history of China, Central Asia, the Middle East, South Asia, and Europe. One may also argue that world history began with the "Turko-Mongol" empire created by Chinggis Khan. In the contemporary world, Turkic-speaking nations form six states (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, and Turkey/Türkiye) and several "autonomous" units in Russia (the republics of Chuvash, Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, Altai, Khakassia, Tuva, and Sakha) and China (the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region). Turkic peoples also reside as minority groups in several other countries, including Mongolia and Iran, among others. It would therefore be difficult to acquire a comprehensive understanding of world history as well as our present world without studying the history of the Turkic peoples.
@Jalayir lmao no. World history started when Alexander the great conquered all the way to india.
@mappingshaman5280 Ancient Greece, Egypt, Persia, China and Babylon be like:
I mean. Im Hispanic and i live in the southern tip of the americas. That too is a moving ethnolinguistic group. You could say the same with the anglos and australia
And in the process, they destroyed, killed and displaced tens of millions of local indigenous people...
It's too bad that Armenia doesn't have great relations with Georgia either, which would have been a natural ally in the region as both are Christian nations who have suffered under Russian and Soviet imperial rule
We have great relations , just Georgia is trying to have good realtions with Azerbejan and Turcky as well . Frankly i reapect their approche for what they have risk life of there Soliders ?
Armenia is a close ally of Russia, while Georgia has fought wars against Russian-backed separatists in South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
@@mateopribyl9218 that’s what Armenia wants to do. They threatened Russia last year that they’d leave CSTO and ask the west for help against the conflict with Azerbaijan
@@mateopribyl9218 but the west (Turkey, so don't think other west countries will support Armenia) are supporting their enemy, you think they will just become instantly friends with their enemy just because their enemy won the war?
@@TakedaS115 Armenia has refused to do joint military exercises with Russia and did one with NATO, in Armenia, literally a few weeks ago. They are not allied with Russia, Armenia is trying hard to be part of the NATO club. They have been for over 5 years, since Pashinyan became president.
My heart goes out to Armenians affected by this conflict. Such an unfortunate nation...
“There are no nation that hasn’t done wrong, there are no nation that hasn’t recieved wrong”
-A really ancient Turkic saying, as far as I remember
@@Qwerka of course it would be a turkic saying, they have a genocide fetish
@VaporizeUkraineget a job lil n*gga
@VaporizeUkrainedon't you talk about ethnic cleansing
Criminal nation that united to ethnically cleanse hundreds of thousands of azerbaijanis and justify their mass murders and crimes against humanity
The Turks will be upset in the comments over claiming the Ottoman Empire committing genocide against the Armenians (which is a historic fact the Turks deny).
I wonder which countries goverment blocked the historians from doing actual research about the "genocide"
As a Kazakh I do not deny the genocide of Armenians. I SUPPORT IT. Azerbaijan legally owns Artsakh. It has all the rights to militarily occupy it.
Oh boy it didnt end with the Ottoman regime by any stretch, the Balkan and Causasus mountain peoples seem obsessed with ethnic cleansing some of the most mixed and diverse regions to be found
@@CowboyAye🇹🇷🤜🤛🇰🇿
@@PropantsHere goes the whatabaoutism train! Choo choooo!!
I feel like when it comes to this conflict people subconsciously side with either the Christian or Muslim side without even being religious.
Like let's say that instead this was about Cyprus taking over North Cyprus. Who would you root for here? Cyprus because they're the rightful owner? North Cyprus' Turkish people because they've existed in the territory for centuries at this point and controlled it for decades? Or whichever is part of your cultural and religious sphere. OR perhaps you side with NATO or not-NATO.
It's because religion is easily the single biggest defining factor in civilization
Regardless of the very recent (~1700s onwards) developments in politics and society, religion has shaped and molded cultures into some pretty well defined areas of the world because its teachings and ethics tend to become engrained with the population and their societies (i.e. the Dao in east Asia, the Bible and Abrahamic law in the West, the Quran in the Islamic world) at a very basic fundamental level
Like, you can be Western, and anywhere with a Christian majority or history, whether that place is Russia, Canada or Uruguay, you will most likely feel somewhat decently at a "familiar spot" because the cultures aren't 100% THAT different from eachother; values, core societal aspects, core ethics, ideologies, worldviews, they tend to be the same (i.e. like how the Communist Manifesto is literally a remix of the Bible)
But then you go to Nepal or Morocco, and even tho they aren't that far away from these centers, they seem to be entirely different universes
As a result, you subconsciously tend to side with what feels to be the closest to you, the most familiar
… probably. There are a few conflicts where i feel the christian side was the bad one (especially bosnia) but in a lot of cases i lean instinctively on the side of the christians, especially in west asia/the levant. Both because i am a christian and because i know by and large the’be suffered enough. (And obvs, as someone mentioned it after me, christians tend to be indigenous)
Cyprus because many of the Turks of northern Cyprus are colonists that settled there within the past few decades. Turkey already took all of Asia Minor and Eastern Thrace from the Greeks, they don't need Cyprus too.
It's weird because Christian Armenia is friends with Iran while the Azeris are funded and armed by the Isrealis. So you have Christians westerners throwing their religious brethren to the Jewish and Muslim wolves while another Muslim nation backs the little Christian one. Money and real politik trump's religion in the real world, apparently.
In both cases I would support Cyprus AND Armenia as it was both their land for millennia's until a few decades ago so they got invaded and conquered. This is going with your point of ignoring religion and only focusing on who's land it was before invasions.
Mistake: the Soviets never gave Artsakh to Azerbaijan, simply because "Artsakh" did not evdn officially exist as an entity. There was a war between Armenia and Azerbaijan over Zangezur, Karabakh and Nakhchivan. Karabakh was recognized as a de facto territory of Azerbaijan at the Paris peace conference in 1920 before the Soviet rule. During the Soviet rule it was officially RETAINED within Azerbaijan, not given to it.
Yes, let Azerbajian anex that place they lost in the 90s, that totally won't set a precedent for some other nation to annex some places it lost in the 90s....
The West going "oh well, anyway" when the Azeri invaded Artsakh was absolutely a major incentive to launch the SMO.
There are few stories sadder than that of the modern armenians
Maybe Afghans and Syrians, probably the Sudanese as well.
If i tried to tell everyone single one of those sadder stories, i would be dead. And probably not even close to half of the sadder stories.
New change in the map earth explodes into millions of pieces
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This will greatly impact the trout population
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I don't understand, Nagorno-Karabakh is de jure Azerbaijani territory and RoA is not recognized by anyone so there's no change in the map?
Exactly there is no change on the map. All the wars happen on Azerbaijan territory
@@milafirouzi2010It is a change. The fact that it isn't recognised does not mean that it doesn't exist. On maps, in the event that Azerbaijan annexes the territory, most maps will go from showing dotted lines to showing nothing at all.
I guess this video is more about de facto.
De facto change
EmperorTigerstar doesn't usually cover de facto changes. Otherwise this wouldn't be the video number 21 but rather we'd be in hundreds.
Feel like Turkey and Azaerbaijan will just gobble up Armenia at this rate. And NATO and Russia will just watch it all happen. Armenia has been forgotten by the world and its sad.
Asın bayrakları 🇹🇷🇹🇷
no we wont its your job to invade and mess up countries like ıraq and afghanistan my friend
This is why you can't trust the West. If Europe and America won't fight for other Christians. What makes you think they care about the state of the rest of the world.
Armenia kinda brought it on themselves by antagonizing all their neighbors, committing the ethnic cleansing in this conflict, and letting themselves get corrupt and not develop their military and infrastructure.
I also don’t them to disappear but it is reap what you sow situation
Good riddance
As always, the question is WHOSE territorial integrity? And what does that mean for ethnic groups that do not fit the model for that nation state? Usually that means assimilation or ethnic cleansing.
We all know what's going to happen. Our governments just don't care.
And that is the heart of the massive problem with the idea of nation-states: there’s no room for peoples that don’t nearly fit in one area.
In this case I sadly feel ethnic cleansing is the only outcome, Azerbaijan has made it clear their feelings towards Armenians one only needs to look at how the murder of Gurgen Margaryan was viewed by the Azeris.
Territorial Integrity means NOT having an insurgency that rules your land by its own military laws economy etc. This is trivial to understand.
I also hope there will be no ethnic cleansing but there will definitely be major tensions, native population also is trying to escape.
@@turkepic3637 i do agree that there shouldn't be an insurgency, however that doesnt justify the fact Azerbaijan had to starve Artsakh and invade it.
If Azerbaijan tried to solve this by using peace and proposing things like more autonomy or no discrimination agaisnt armenians, this conflict wouldnt be necessary and the insurgency would most likely go away. For example, that's what happened for example in Europe with Basque Country nationalists becoming peaceful after accepting a treaty from europeans
My condolences to all the Armenians, especially those from Artsakh. Your country has been cursed by geopolitics. I hope the situation changes. Artsakh deserves freedom! May the blood that has been shed not be forgotten.
Oh yeah? These armenian terrorists started this so azerbaijan had to start the invasion,learn the moment and talk later,no offense
The reason why they are “cursed by geopolitics” is because they decided it is a good idea to invade and occupy their neighbors’ territories.
@@rashadmammadli4805 The reason they are "cursed by geopolitics" is because the Turks ethnically cleansed two thirds of the territory they used to inhabit a century ago.
@@kevinboros74271994 cleansed azerbaijanis in Karabakh forcing them to exit Karabakh
They are terrorists who put mines everywhere just to harm civils
Don't forget that Azerbaijan imposed a blockade on Artsakh for nearly a year before the invasion. Starving 120,000 people and preventing them from getting medical care.
Don’t forget that Azerbaijan tried to send humanitarian aid to Karabakh residents who refused it lmao
@@rashadmammadli4805 If they cared they wouldn't have blockaded them to begin with. It is like cutting off someone's hand and then trying to give them a band-aid. And when the victim refuses, you try to act like you wanted to help.
@@stanchpandora3658 Fair point but you forgot to mention that the whole point of the blockade was because armenian government would illegally send weapons to the Karabakh region. Azerbaijan put a stop to it by blocking the Lachin corridor, but proposed a new one such as Agdam corridor. armenians rejected it because it is connected to Baku.
@@rashadmammadli4805 was there any proof of illegal weapons being sent or was it just fabricated? And as for the Agdam corridor I made that analogy so you know why it was refused. To me this was just a ploy so then the Armenians living there would be too weak to defend themselves.
Update: this is now almost guaranteed as Karabakh has agreed to reintegrate by 2024 as of September 28, 2023
Yeah its annexed as of 1.1.2024 and all the armenians living there were killed
Armenia dont recognize Artsakh as their territory or independent state. Its officially azerbaijanian territory. Russia have a treat to protect only officially recognized territories of Armenia. You should note this important fact in a video.
Shhhhh, let them think Russia wont do anything because they cant, dont give actual reasons for it, helps war propaganda cuz Russia weak and bad
At least thats the take away from most folks in the comments so far
God I hope the people of artkash will be okay ♥️🇦🇲
@@monkofdarktimesAzerbaijan isn’t turkey and the people are brother but not the same contrary to what people claim on the internet
@@chimera9818they aren't the same, but both states love ethnic cleansing
@@chimera9818 With how much Azerbaijan is acting like Turkey, its a not a hard equation to reason out. Ambition + Power + Entitlement = Ample justification for invasion and ethnic domination. Armenians in Azerbaijan are going to end up like Kurds in Turkey and you know it.
they won't, this is a sad day
@@hellbach8879no we dont and do not try justifying anything towards us with these retarded claims we had enough of these western bs. teaching us manners while they f.up so many regions and people like our neighbours Syria and Iraq
It's not a "minor" mistake to misidentify who Iran is aligned with. Azerbaijan has not only aligned with Turkey, but more importantly, Israel & the United States. Azerbaijan was a persistent US ally in the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan. I personally served along side Azeri troops stationed at the Haditha Dam in Iraq, where the AZs controlled perimeter security, & had a REALLY good reputation with US forces.
Azeri alliance structure for the last 25 years is key to understanding how they were able to finally make this operation work, & you completely ignored it.
You need to redo your video.
You served with people who committed genocide. Congratulations.
Still we drove you out of haditha and slaughtered your crusaders
Indeed you think yourselves warriors but flee at the sight of lions.
@@LukeSky2207 Nope. You need to re-read. I didn't serve with the genocide champion Russians & their compliant Armenians.
Were the Azerbaijani soldiers stationed in Iraq actually good? I am Azeri but haven't researched it much
@@hasanaliakhmedov6826 I was a Marine in Haditha in 2006-2007, I believe the AZs were guarding the Haditha Dam/South Dam Village from 2004-2009. Both from my personal experience and from other Marines I knew who served in Haditha at different times, the AZs were always considered well respected & appreciated for their work. No drama, just complete professionals. And the Haditha Triangle during that time was always one of the highest casualty areas in Iraq. A very dangerous place. But nobody had anything but good things to say about how the AZs did their job. Based on my experience, I'll always be biased in favor of Azeris.
Is there a chance of them just exchanging their exclaves? Population transfers between countries isn't unheard of in modern history.
No, Azerbaijan will never willingly give up Naxchivan, especially since it is protected by Turkey.
You can't compare the population of Nakhchivan and Karabakh. Besides, why would it be necessary to do, considering Azerbaijan is much stronger than Armenia and planning to have a corridor that will conncect Nakhchivan and Azerbaijan that goes through armenia.
@@elmosaynomoreWesterners don't care because the Armenian bias (due to internal politics in the west) is extremely strong. They can't even recognize that their own countries recognize NK as part of Azerbaijan, which is laughable.
@@elmosaynomore The corridor is internationally recognized as part of Armenia and the exclave is almost completely surrounded by hostile countries
@@quisqueyanguy120I guarantee 80% of people in my country could not find Armenia or Azerbaijan on a map, much less would they be biased in favor of either one.
Update. Over 80% indigenous Artsakhians have left there homeland
Interesting how you neglected to mention that Armenia took over most of the Azerbaijani land thst lief between it and Artsakh, driving out all Azeris by force from those areas.
I'm partially armenian, and even though i do support the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan I do worry for the armenian population in it.
why would you do that? it is clear that armenians have no future in azerbaijan
@@Nekroleinchenneoliberalism is mental HIV
This isn't "supporting territorial integrity". This is expansionism and domination, simple as. Azerbaijan has always been more powerful than Armenia due to its oil supply and size, and its always used its strength to bully them.
Armenia did kinda brought it on themselves by antagonizing all their neighbors , aligning themselves with Russia, ethnically cleansing Azeris from the region mentioned and not putting effort on their military and economic.
I also don’t wants them to disappear but it is you reap what you sow situation
The optimal solution would've been for Azerbajian to cede the territory to Armenia
it's not exactly conquering if it's their own territory
...It's not exactly their own territory...😅 Not when the people that live there have been there since for several milenenia before even the idea of the Azeri nation or the Turkic language groups existed.
Stalin made the decision to make war inevitable if nations would break away. This war is his creation.
For whatever it's worth (not mch), NKR had a special designation in the Soviet law which which meant it was already autonomous from the Azeri SSR
@@RTAvakian Good thing the Soviets don't exist anymore, do they? And it doesn't exactly count when those people that have supposedly inhabited the region for millennia have to resort to genociding the local population to create their supposed autonomous zone. Sounds more like lebensraum to me.
@@RTAvakianwow, you sound exactly like a Russian
i really like this channel but i gotta say i'm pretty dissapointed with the biased narrating here.
no, azerbaijan isn't "invading, occupying, annexing or conquering" karabakh. karabakh is an integral land of azerbaijan by international law and treaties, recognized so by every single country on earth including armenia, and the UN. there are several UN resolutions stating that the armenian occupation of karabakh is illegal and they must retreat their forces immediately, which armenia didn't listen. furthermore, armenia invaded and occupied the armenian-majority region of karabakh AND the 7 cities surrounding it, which all had azerbaijani majority! around 1 million azerbaijanis were forced out of karabakh and the 7 cities around it by armenian forces in the first war. it is really sad how you didn't point that out.
So what happens if the UN ever rules against you? Im going to take a guess and say you'll only ever lean on them for legitimacy as long as it favors you. Very dishonest of you.
you are a genocide enabler
UN resolutions: In 1993, the Security Council of the UN (Security Council) adopted resolutions 822, 853, 874, and 884 on the Armenian- Azerbaijani conflict. Each resolution was adopted as a result of the occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh and other territories of the Republic of Azerbaijan by the Armenian Armed Forces.
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I like this channel in general BUT "Azerbaijan grows closer to Iran" is the most inaccurate comment which can ever be made for this conflict, and displays total ignorance about the conflict. Iran is the greatest supporter of Armenia regarding karabakh dispute for its own geopolitical reasons; in fact, more than Russia.
“Azerbaijan grows closer to iran”
Azerbaijanis rebelling in iran: 🥰🥰🥰
If you talk to Azeris the only stuff they wants from Iran is the Azeris majority region and are core part of the anti Iranian countries in Middle East
There are more Azeris in Iran than in Azerbaijan...
There is no such thing as a rebellious Azeri population in Iran. Azeris while turkic are culturally Iranian they share customs and religion with other iranians while the azeris in the north have been russified culturally and had their religion wiped out by the soviets. an azeri in iran has nothing in common to one in azerbaijan other than language.
Literally the leader of Iran is Azeri
You forgot to mention Armenian ethnic cleansing of Azerbaijanis in the occupied area in ‘92 such as Khojaly massacre. There is no good or bad in this fight. Both sides played dirty.
Because it doesn’t work for westerners earing of the conflict and doesn’t like to learn the people they decide were the underdog are actually acted wrongly and analogized all their neighbors in all situations of this conflict and now reap what they sow
Both sides played dirty but Azerbaijan is the one that committed worse crimes upfront. Armenia caught up later when the war turned in their favor.
Armenians just can’t catch a break from the Turks
Armenia really needs to get new allies and fast. Azerbaijan won't stop there.
EU is already an ally
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And what allies are going to help them?
They asked the UN for help back on 2020, they tried to apporach western nations and were ignored.
Then there is the fact that the EU replaced their purchases of gas from "a country that is invading another", only to then start buying from Azerbajan, which is doing the same thing . . .
@@LoboalphaMASTER Difference is Azerbaijan wasn’t technically invading anyone, since NK was their territory under international law.
They are starting to move towards the American camp
Bro keep missing key point in order to make Azerbaijan a villain
1, He didn't do that.
2, They are the villains. Cope.
@@CountSpartula Armenian terrorist genociders killed thousands of Azerbaijani Turk civilians including kids and ethnically cleansed them by force.
Azerbaijan now claimed its land back from evil terrorists. You cope.
Imagine Gallo-Britons in France waging war on France and seeking complete independence + They lay ''historical claim'' almost all of Southern Europe since their forefathers were once native to those lands and got subjected of countless genocides since the Roman times + demands of compensation for all those years and lives.
Good luck Armenian brothas. Sorry but you have no chance to get what you asking for guys :(
A better analogy would be Northern Cyprus
its Azerbaijani territory invaded by armenians after ussr what are you talking about
An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind...
Eye for an eye was the upper limits in both Tanakh and original Hammurabi law and basically meant you can’t take more than was taken from you .
Only modern people act like it was minimum.
Also let’s see what your reaction if you got region of your country conquered, your people ethnically cleansed and got it robbed in your face for the next 30 years by Armenia that ally with your no 1 Iran and you will get why the war happened
@@chimera9818Turks aren’t even native to anywhere west of Kazakhstan wtf are you on about
Wonder if Russia doing literally nothing will lead to Georgia retaking back those russian funded spots too.
That's a completely different story, Russia recognizes Abkhazia and S. Ossetia so that would be a repeat of 2008.
Unlikely Russia recognises those two states, and thus far more interested in it's future, plus it would be a dagger to Sochi an important naval base, Moldova taking transnistria I think is far more likely, they are unenforceable, not even recognized by Russia, why they haven't yet I don't know
I doubt it since Georgia doesn't have the same international backing (namely turkey and therefore by extension NATO) that Azerbaijan does
Don't share wrong information please.Could you please show me where was Artsax? Is this toponim recognised by any legal organisations? There is Karabakh and this is historical Azerbaijani land.Becouse in Turkic languages is Kara-Black and Bag-Garden.
Artsakh is the name they call themselves as a nation, not the name of the region. It's not "wrong information".
Ask Strabo where it is
@@EmperorTigerstar Dear their nation is Armenian.They call this land s'Artsax which is recognised by no one,no countries.
Agreement: On 1 January 2024 Arsaj republic will be officially dissolved.
I hope Armenia can conquer Nakichevan and settle the Karabakh refugees there. Azerbaijan absolutely deserves to lose it.
Already was a part of Azerbaijan before though? So what is the change
They had never controlled it, except on paper.
Azerbaijan as an independent nation has never ruled Artsakh. Nor did it have a valid legal claim, as Artsakh's referendum was legal under Soviet law. But the world won't recognize it as an independent nation because it is politically inconvenient to open up the Pandora's Box that is 'Soviet autonomous regions had a right to independence'. There were a lot of autonomous regions in the Soviet Union. Artsakh is collateral damage resulting from political pragmatism and global indifference. Even though Soviet law at the time had a procedure for autonomous regions to declare independence, and Artsakh followed this procedure, the world would rather pretend otherwise because recognizing its independence could give legitimacy to other secessionist movements and cause turmoil throughout the entire post-soviet world. And Artsakh is also really isolated and far away from any of the major powers except Russia which betrayed Armenia.
I would just refer to the UN resolutions on the matter@@DeclinedMercy
Artsakh is to be completely dissolved and dismantled by January 1, 2024 and to be annexed into Azerbaijan. 70% of Artsakh has now fled to Armenia :/ very unfortunate stuff
Unfortunate? Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of Azeris who were driven out of their homes in the first war, Justice was done.
Armenians can return and live there under Azerbaijani laws and nationality.
Have you made a video on history of Azerbaijan? I couldn’t find it on you channel, there is Georgia and Armenia, Kazakhstan and Belorus. Azerbaijan is not interesting for you cus it is muslim state? I would like you to look closer at this country, you might be nicely surprised.🙏
Azerbaijan has only existed for 32 years.
Kazakhstan is Muslim.
@@DeclinedMercy even if you like thinking so, it is not
@@DeclinedMercyby this logic it is same for Armenia
Firstly, title of video was wrong. It must be ''Azerbaijan retakes Artsakh''. Name of Artsak was derived from Turkish word of Arsak (“Ər Sak” in Azerbaijani). There are 2 possibilities regarding the word Arsak:
1) It may derived from Turkic Saka (Sak) tribe. They settled in Azerbaijan, in the Kura-Araz lowland from 7th century BC. So, it may be meaned ''Saka man''.
2) It may be derived from Caucasian Arsakids, was branch of Arsakids, ruled Greater Iran before Sassanids. They were descended from Turkish Sak tribe.
The basics of Nagorno-Karabakh dispute were expansion of Russia into Transcaucasus at the expense of Kachar Iran and Ottoman Empire and Turkish genocide took place during process of independence of Balkan nations from Ottoman Empire between 1804-1922. Perpetrator of it is Russia.
The sad thing is that if Putin intervened for his ally of Armenia instead of invading Ukraine, nearly everyone in the West would be supporting him. So much for him being a chess player...
Thats not how to works. Armenia tried to move to west and eu. And russsia punish him.
Russia was just a fake superpower unfortunately for the Armenians.😐
@@Hunter-cx6 why tf would Armenia try to move to the west or EU knowing that it will anger Russia, their biggest supporter and biggest help?
@@azurite_ore9647 They did. They didnt want to be a puppet of russia. Go check out articals and news about it.
@@azurite_ore9647because that’s what happened. Armenia negotiated with NATO and even had some joint military exercises with them
I recognize artsakh as part of Armenia since their people decided it
TIL Ukraine is now trying to conquer Donetsk and Luhansk
While I don’t like Azerbaijan’s government nor it’s bullying of Armenia thanks to Armenia’s isolation, Nagorno-Karabakh region is a territory of Azerbaijan and using words like “conquered” is incredibly disingenuous in my opinion
@@xunqianbaidu6917Soylent response
Russia themselves did the same in 90’s and 2000’s when the Chechen’s wanted independence from Russia. The Russian governments and eventually Putin’s response was to bomb the living hell out of them.
Ever heard of de facto?
Armenians have been there for thousands of years. Only Stalins weird borders made this Azerbaijan
@@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 how political borders came into being doesn’t annul them, and calling Azerbaijan’s reoccupation of Nagorno-Karabakh, “conquest” is double standards
The summary of what we see playing out is that it doesn't really matter if you like Russia or hate Russia: it would seem that when put to the test they are a weaker ally than Turkey and Iran.
Anyone who is dependent on Russia for security has better luck relying on Turkey and Iran.
As a Westerner I can't say I am happy about Iran but I'd bet their military was more dangerous than Russia's frankly.
I haven't the foggiest how the lines South of Russia will shake out, but history books will record
"So when Russia got distracted with a larger conflict"
And they will say it was a strategically *dumb* move to attack Ukraine.
Here just as a reminder that when Azeris invaded Artsakh this time Armenia’s army was in a joint exercise with the US army on armenian soil just after refusing to participate in the CSTO’s one
You do realize the US is Armenias ally. But us won't touch Azerbaijan bc it's backed by isreal.
I know people have their land, house and savings, and that in this kind of situation they just have to leave everything behind, but they could at least be paid for leaving their homeland. I mean, I know it would never happen, but would be just a little better
Why would a country like Azeribaijan who already clearly feels justified in the annexation of Artsakh help any of the Armenians living there especially as there is quite serious hatred instilled into their armed forces. For God's sake an Azeri Lieutenant butchered a Armenian Lieutenant when they were at a NATO course in Hungary and he was hailed as a hero back home for this brutal murder.
@@hiabyss_kiss I know they wouldn't, I'm just being honest about what I feel about it. The problem with this kind of question is that when they hate each other there's nothing else that could happen than killing
As an Azerbaijani people i don't understand your point. During the first Qarabag war my people suffered a lot they were massacered in a very terrifying way(like the one in Khojaly )and they were not even given a time to leave (during the invasion of Khalbacar inhabitants were given one day to leave but we give them more than a month after second war) nobody gave any help for these people so why we are supposed to do that?
@@hiabyss_kiss Qarabag is internationally recognised as a territory of Azerbaijan so there's no need to feel justified and also you are talking like armenians don't hate us at all. They are the ones who burned Azerbaijani flag during the open of European championship.
@@rsadniftliyev8059 that's rough, bro. My point is that civilians are only trying to live and they must at least have an option to leave safely. News about the Azeri-Armenian wars were and are rare in my country, so I didn't knew about this details. Peace!
Overly happy intro for the situation at hand.
The map is unchanged actually. All the maps have always showed it as part of Azerbaijan, as recognized internationally.
4:02 The comedic timing here is godly
Dark times we’re in again in the post war era where countries are changing the maps by force… irrespective of the populaces wishes. Now all the Azerbaijan/Armenia maps all have to be updated. This whole affair really demonstrates Russia dwindling power and their inability or lack of want to support their allies, Armenia made a cataclysmic mistake to rely on the Russian Federation. I hope the Armenian people are spared from crimes against humanity.
"Mistake" implies that there was a choice.
Azerbaijan is allied with Turkey and Turkey is in NATO. Armenia can't really join NATO because of that. Therefore the only other option is Iran and Russia
Things never go well for Armenians in Muslim-majority countries.
What do Azerbaijan expect to get from this? Their exclave in Armenia is only accessible through armenia and Iran. I hope Iran steps in.
The territory was Azerbaijan when they declared independence. Armenia invaded it afterwards. Azerbaijan just reclaimed its territory.
Through Georgia and Turkey. Probably the Zangezur corridor will be opened to it by treaty.
@@mehmetkayraozer9164It was always Armenia's land though
@@Hacker_Kamyko Lmao no. History from Walmart.
@@Hacker_Kamyko there was no Armenia between ancient ages and modern ages. So it wasn't always Armenia's land.
Its really sad that "haha funny line" people still have effect til this day
(though lets be real, even if the lines were ''right" we still would had some issues)
It's a shame what the fate of Armenia turned out to be, a rump state with a history dating back to the Roman days.
At least the border look cleaner now.
I am a Turk and I shall say, our Armenian neighbor’s borders hits hard, it look good in my opinion 😊
The war on Armenians is not over. Atrempts to annex Syunik are next
@@Qwerka leave it to Turks to be imperialist scumbags, exactly the same breed as the Russians.
Armenia never had a continuous political existence doesn't matter if it dates back to the Roman days the past millennia of it's history consists of getting dominated by Turks, Mongols, Russians, etc.
Azerbaijan grow closer to Iran? Totally False!
Lets say "Liberation"
ah yes famously removing a people from their homes is "liberation". totally not a psychotic thing to say.
@Lyle_Stevik ok tatard
Technically, this isnt a change. Its always been part of Azerbarjan. Id rather it was part of Armenia, since its population is largely Armenian anyway
As u said, it's a sovereign part of Azerbaijan. But the population thing, by this logic, then Scotland, Kurdistan, Catalonia and so on should get independence & i know that the British, Spanish, Turkish, Persian & Arabic people won't be happy 'bout that.
@@erenaygun4157Very true. Same with Quebec and Louisiana leaving Canada and America. I guess theres a reason why places arent divided this way anymore (Im just not quite sure I know what it is)
@@erenaygun4157 The British literally let Scotland vote and Scotland chose to remain in the UK. Artsakh voted and even though the vote was fair and legal it was ignored.
@@DeclinedMercyDude, the new scottish vote was also denied, you cant deny anything here
@@histo6651 Scotland was at least offered a fair referendum
Hey, I've seen this one!
Seriously though, this is a pretty serious situation and doesn't give me a lot of faith in our near future.
This gives me faith very much. Karabağ Azerbaycandır!
@@AManWithNoName imperialist
@@DeclinedMercyRetaking your own land = Imperialism
Those imperialist Africans!
@@turkepic3637 Not Azeri land. It is the land of the natives (well not for much longer)
@@stanchpandora3658 It is Azeri land. Period. It's recognised as such. Enforcing ethnonational borders is ludicrous and just is an incentive for ethnic cleansing.
Armenia should annex Nakchivan and rehome the Armenians from Artsakh there.
Be warned to readers. The caucusus is like the balkans of the east so expect turkish and armenian bots talking a lot of bad stuff to eachother and talking alot of what aboutism.
Except it’s not really balanced at all. Turkey has had a long history of persecuting and murdering Armenians and other ethnic groups, whereas Armenia’s history is largely clean in that regard. Often times the Turks and Azeris will make up so-called “massacres” by the Armenians but they’ve proven to be false and propaganda.
The balkans are like the Caucasus of the west.
Just because you posted this, now it's not going to happen, just for the universe to make you look silly.
Poor armenians cant catch a break
Well, if not even ARmenia under Pashinyan fought for it why is everyone thinking Russia should invade Azerbaijan and do all the work that not even Armenia cared to try?
This is first time occupation of Azerbaijan over Artsakh in history.
Thanks to Russia , Azerbaijan now is an existencial threat to Armenia itself.
You do know that Azerbaijan doesn't even care about armenia except the Zangezur region which taken away from Azerbaijan and given to Armenia by stalin which created the Nakhcivan exclave.
Without the russians, the entire Armenian territory, not just karabakh, would be under Turkish control. So stop crying little khach'
The Azerbaijan Democratic Republic, a Russian Civil War breakaway state, indeed owned and occupied Nagorno-Karabakh
@@fillfilin2287 without Russia , Turkey would live under Sevres treaty .
@@armenian_cartographer_neo Dont worry bro, Im turkish and Azeri and trust me I would never wish for my countries to invade the mainland armenia. You guys deserve a country that can be called home too so I hope this drama ends with this last karabakh conflict.
It is an understatement that Armenia is just unable to help
The government is unwilling to do anything about it at all to the point that french has stronger verbal condemnation than Armenia. Also there r some armenian army personnel left there as well as their weapons after 2020 karabakh.
PM simply say no Armenian army there and throw the local forces and the Armenian unit there under the bus.
Ethnic Armenians can’t get a break
Even russia abondoned them. This their fault. They try to be move to west and make russia angry. They should think about what they doing first if they want be happy.
@@Hunter-cx6Armenia never moved to the west, they put their cards with Russia and Russia abandoned them. Plain and simple, they got shafted by Russia because Russia is selfish.
@@Hunter-cx6russia never helped they are the reason this conflict is happening in the first place when they drew the borders specifically to cause a conflict so they could possibly get involved and take control in the area.
@@Hunter-cx6which is an absolute lie, Russia refused to help Armenia in the first place.
@@Hunter-cx6 really makes you think why all former Russian allies/puppets desperately want to move closer to the "degenerate West".
This is you who didn't accept our existence in our own lands.You didn't wanted and don't want to live together with Azerbaijanis in their own country their own cities or villages. How ridiculous!
İts Karabakh bro, not "artsakh"
The voice of a free people sound out louder than your colonial names
Armenians ethnically cleansed Azeris from Nagerno Karabakh. You can pick and choose what you wanna talk based on your bias.
Well Azeris cleansed Armenians back in 1918. They did it first
@@ianhomerpura8937 no such ethnic cleansing happened in 1918. You can’t produce any such record. Armenians were living there before 1918 and after 1918. At no point Azeris expelled Armenians. Even now Azeris aren’t expelling Armenians.
I doubt it was ethnic cleansing. Tens of thousands of armenians and Azerbaijanis lost their homes because of the 1992 war. The difference is Armenian can just return home. And Azerbaijanis can't because the border is militarized. Which is unfortunate for them.
@@Muipal then what do you call the massacres in Baku and Shusha in 1918 then?
@@ianhomerpura8937 which massacre ? Did you invent one?
Why didn't you mention that the regions where the Azerbaijani majority lived were occupied by Armenians during the First Karabakh War? And the displacement of about one million Azerbaijanis from their homeland during the war
because there are decades, centuries even of ethnic conflicts between azeris and armenians, and you don't get to pick which one explains best the next one. it's on you (yes you specifically) to be the bigger man and stop, if you're even capable of it
Long live Artsakh!
@@swordoftengri2676 look it up yourself
I'm afraid it looks like Armenians will go the way of the Assyrians this century. Armenia really should have grit its teeth and annexed Artsakh officially in 1994 instead of the precarious limbo that's now been ended..
It's terrible to see these two countries at each other's throats. Both the Azeris and Armenians have suffered long from this rivalry when they should coexist instead.
Blame the Azeris. Their government literally calls Armenia a cancer. What can Armenia do?
I agree as armenian
turks can go back to the steppe
It's hard to undo a history of tension unfortunately. Just take a look at British India... I mean India and Pakistan.
India and Pakistan have a really bad relationship with each other.
Why? Blame the British.
…and respect each other’s self-determination.
There is also another change in the map! If you go on google maps on the 37°45'20.5"N 24°04'32.5"E location you will see a peninsula, which thanks to the climate change is now COMPLETELY and ISLAND! I have a picture of how it is now and how it was before.
Contanct me if you want proof for the peninsula being an island.
Wow
Proof
@@foakjljrwajkltawtrawtwa441 i have a picture.
Yay Greece's island count goes from in the 6000's to the 6000's.
@@NauticalCoffin2404 lets go!
France maybe give Marseille to Armenia which consider armenians as their little sister.Then Marseillle name should change with Martsakh.Long live Armenia,Long live Martsakh
*Karabakh. and It was Azerbaijani territory to begin with.
The Armenians were always going to lose Nagorno-Karabakh. The Azeri’s are rich from oil, Baku and got advanced weaponry from
Turkey in particular. The Russians let the Azeri’s waltz in and take the place, so it would free up some more soliders as cannon fodder
For Ukraine. I cannot believe that a F1 race is held in Baku Azerbaijan when they know it is ruled by a dictatorship regime, but the
Azeri’s can buy anything I guess.
Iran is actually a major supporter of Armenia. Arguably a much bigger one than Russia. And Armenia has been distancing itself from Russia for years now, and trying to get closer to USA and NATO. Which is a big reason why Russia and Iran did not intervene against Azerbaijan. I would even say Russia and Iran goaded Azerbaijan into intervening.
Iran less so (regarding giving Azerbaijan the greenlight to invade Artsakh), now that Azerbaijan is eyeing territory in Armenia proper, Iran has said (really has been saying) they will not allow this and have mobilized troops to the border multiple times
@@programablenuance Iran doesn't want Turkey and Azerbiajan to have a land corridor, yes. But this invasion is probably meant as a way to send a message to Armenia. Don't get any closer to NATO, or you will regret it. Maybe as a way to collapse the pro-West government and have a neutral minded government installed? I don't know. I do know is that Azerbaijan wouldn't do this unless he got greelight from the Kremlin and from Tehran.
But in the end, for both of these nations, a emboldened Azerbaijan swallowing up Armenia is preferable to another NATO outpost in their northern/southern border.
And I can easily say whatever you say is completely wrong. Iran would be stupid to goad Azerbaijan to get more territory when there's more Azerbaijanis in Iran than Azerbaijan itself. Look up geopolitics next time.
@@ۥۥۥٴٴٴٴۥ its not a ideal situation for Iran, b ut the least thing Iran wants is another NATO outpost on their borders
When Azerbaijan totally conquers Karabakh, they will recognise Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus as a state.
God help the Armenians and may they prosper
KARABAKH is now out of your little indo european literature?
Azerbaijan will try and syunik next to connect its exclave to Azerbaijan proper
Gonna have a lot of dead Azeri diplomats if that happens
Nope, we dont wanna get blamed with another genocide now, do we?
We only got our rightful soil, no more is needed
Strange way to say genocide.
How can Azerbaijan conquer its own lands? Karabah is Azerbaijan territory, you will not find Artsakh on the map cus it is Karabah and it has always been part of Azerbaijan. Armenian citizens lived peacefully in Karabah during Soviet times and after the collapse they decided to form an independent state. Azerbaijan disagreed but still lost 20% of lands in the 1st Karabah War. Artsakh is only how armenians call this land, nobody else. I wish you have studied the topic better from both sides before making these types of videos. Azerbaijan didnt conquer, it freed its 20 percent of lands that was occupied by armenians for 30 years. After 30 years only ruins and destruction was found on that land. Azerbaijan is pouring millions into reconstructing it, because we love and care for our land. Armenia occupied not only Karabah but also 7 other districts of Azerbaijan with majority of Azeri population. Millions and millions of refugees had to flee from their hometowns. Get your facts straight and cover the story from both sides please in the future. Dont speak only to armenians, talk to azeris too.