Yup, let’s also ignore the other half of the fights where Bullet lost with this comp on stream against Dino and that a 2C Hard counter also exists for Veronica. Also don’t mind the fact that this set up requires 3 specific units where 2 may not be in your opening hand and you just lose instantly. It’s not like Dino comps have 7 other units he can use to counter your 3 counter units right?
@@TheBIindReaper You don't need to write an essay's worth of excuses. More units will be released that will deal better with Dinomech, and including the nerf they'll be doing, will become more tolerable as time goes on. Just be patient, and admit your dislike of Mechs. :)
@@TaikunZ I've stopped RTA even before AHori was out so why would I even care what faction units are aside for PvE purposes. I even use Dino to speedrun Strat Gauntlet because it's faster and more reliable than my usual setup. I've only pointed out an objective view where in what world does requiring half a team of specific units to counter 1 unit sounds fair. I've also advocated for the Rearm Kang True Damage/Jisoo/Lambda/Raphaela nerfs, so I guess I also hate Counters and Soldiers too by your logic.
@@TheBIindReaper you're free to comment on something you don't even participate in, but powercreep in PVP happens. When Yubin and ASY were the kings in PVP back then, people were like "deal with it" and then have the "can't beat them, join them" mentality. When it came to Mechs like Goliath and now Dinomech, people cry nerf and that devs unfortunately listen to them. When a waifu is busted it's fair game, but when a Mech is suddenly all the excuses about why they're unfair and "we need a dedicated comp just to beat it" excuse. Congrats, that's PVP and you tech against meta all the time. So few people bother to try and find counterplay that we are 42 weeks in to discovering a team around Veronica can beat it. And you can win some or lose some/most, that's just how PVP is. It's the whiny and hypocritical nature of tryhards that my comment is pointing out, and I don't want to hear them refuse to utilize Tallie once Dinomech is finally nerfed.
@@TaikunZ You do know that the only comps atm that beat Dino are literally dedicated comps right? Fun fact, Bullet had losses against people who ran Buff Cleansers because Vero just dies instantly, if Ray wasn't in opening hand, he just lost. Even when he ran Dino Comp himself, he ran Serena which basically deleted Vero and ran the enemy down. Strange, it's almost as if Dino has more tools to counter your Mandatory Counter units and isn't it also strange Bullet ran multiple 5/6 Win Streak 2 weeks ago when Dino was Ban 1 and people weren't running Dedicated Comps for Lurcher. Name me a unit that even worked on Ban 4 before the ASPD Nerf and after they introduced the additional debuffs. Also, "waifu is busted it's fair game" you're forgetting the complaints about Lambda who got obliterated with how broken she was solo killing ships with MDL and teams from full hp with just her % Hp GATED PROCS as well as all the nerfs that just happened and are about to come (Jisoo and Rearm Kang are on the block with Lurcher). Spira, a unit who only existed in Terror is now absolutely useless because she can't even jump onto most Rangers now. What about the most broken unit? Release Amy who could perma steal any unit or 2? Hell, she'd probably steal Lurcher in this case since Lurcher isn't Debuff Immune till Ult "So few people bother to try and find counterplay that we are 42 weeks in to discovering a team around Veronica can beat it", ok so what happened to "we need a dedicated comp just to beat it excuse" when here you are saying that it took 42 weeks to find a dedicated comp that beats Lurcher. Also, "Oh no, my Lurcher comp has a 50/50 chance to lose to this niche comp that 5% of the player base can run due to the Awakened Units and Gear Req but has a 100% win rate against the remaining 95%, how ever can I climb PvP with my 1 Lurcher, common SSR's and N/R/SR units". I'm sure Lurcher Comp win rate wasn't that good that both Ingrid and Assault Troopers are now Ban 1. There's also a very big difference between "Strong Powercrept unit where Tech makes it easier to deal with them" VS "You need to run and draw Exodia in your opening hand else you lose the moment you draw a card." You do realize even for Goliath, people ran literal Anti-Mech setups with every possible Anti-Mech unit including Jun to tank that lost to any Non-Goliath comp and still lost terribly right? To the point that the only realistic Counter was a BUG where Goliath couldn't damage flying Towers which Goliath players played around by sniping it with Anti-Air and STILL won games. Jisoo is also still a problem despite how much high Burst damage was recently added in the game because she's still just too good at surviving for her cost and thus is also taking the Nerf Bat for a reason. I run Jisoo on my Strat Defense as the ONLY GEARED Unit and can still rack up Defense wins presumably because they can't kill her. Let me throw this at you, are Rebecca/AJake required to kill the meta Mech comps? Or has Mechs still consistently lost when neither of them are on the enemy team? Do I need to run both? What about needing Rita or Mech Collector as well for 4 of them? Meanwhile, you've already just said Dino REQUIRES Veronica to even be killable, then there's still a strong Awk Defender like Ray oh and also a strong Sniper like Mordred (Curian didn't really work), don't forget a Ship that can Multi-hit and ASPD Slow like Pod else Lurcher still runs you down with CC. Or, I can just run Dino and Dino counters himself, wow.
Who would've thought that just putting more effort to find counterplays to Dinomech was all that's needed?
Yup, let’s also ignore the other half of the fights where Bullet lost with this comp on stream against Dino and that a 2C Hard counter also exists for Veronica. Also don’t mind the fact that this set up requires 3 specific units where 2 may not be in your opening hand and you just lose instantly. It’s not like Dino comps have 7 other units he can use to counter your 3 counter units right?
@@TheBIindReaper You don't need to write an essay's worth of excuses. More units will be released that will deal better with Dinomech, and including the nerf they'll be doing, will become more tolerable as time goes on. Just be patient, and admit your dislike of Mechs. :)
@@TaikunZ I've stopped RTA even before AHori was out so why would I even care what faction units are aside for PvE purposes. I even use Dino to speedrun Strat Gauntlet because it's faster and more reliable than my usual setup. I've only pointed out an objective view where in what world does requiring half a team of specific units to counter 1 unit sounds fair.
I've also advocated for the Rearm Kang True Damage/Jisoo/Lambda/Raphaela nerfs, so I guess I also hate Counters and Soldiers too by your logic.
@@TheBIindReaper you're free to comment on something you don't even participate in, but powercreep in PVP happens. When Yubin and ASY were the kings in PVP back then, people were like "deal with it" and then have the "can't beat them, join them" mentality. When it came to Mechs like Goliath and now Dinomech, people cry nerf and that devs unfortunately listen to them. When a waifu is busted it's fair game, but when a Mech is suddenly all the excuses about why they're unfair and "we need a dedicated comp just to beat it" excuse. Congrats, that's PVP and you tech against meta all the time. So few people bother to try and find counterplay that we are 42 weeks in to discovering a team around Veronica can beat it. And you can win some or lose some/most, that's just how PVP is. It's the whiny and hypocritical nature of tryhards that my comment is pointing out, and I don't want to hear them refuse to utilize Tallie once Dinomech is finally nerfed.
@@TaikunZ You do know that the only comps atm that beat Dino are literally dedicated comps right? Fun fact, Bullet had losses against people who ran Buff Cleansers because Vero just dies instantly, if Ray wasn't in opening hand, he just lost. Even when he ran Dino Comp himself, he ran Serena which basically deleted Vero and ran the enemy down. Strange, it's almost as if Dino has more tools to counter your Mandatory Counter units and isn't it also strange Bullet ran multiple 5/6 Win Streak 2 weeks ago when Dino was Ban 1 and people weren't running Dedicated Comps for Lurcher. Name me a unit that even worked on Ban 4 before the ASPD Nerf and after they introduced the additional debuffs. Also, "waifu is busted it's fair game" you're forgetting the complaints about Lambda who got obliterated with how broken she was solo killing ships with MDL and teams from full hp with just her % Hp GATED PROCS as well as all the nerfs that just happened and are about to come (Jisoo and Rearm Kang are on the block with Lurcher). Spira, a unit who only existed in Terror is now absolutely useless because she can't even jump onto most Rangers now. What about the most broken unit? Release Amy who could perma steal any unit or 2? Hell, she'd probably steal Lurcher in this case since Lurcher isn't Debuff Immune till Ult
"So few people bother to try and find counterplay that we are 42 weeks in to discovering a team around Veronica can beat it", ok so what happened to "we need a dedicated comp just to beat it excuse" when here you are saying that it took 42 weeks to find a dedicated comp that beats Lurcher. Also, "Oh no, my Lurcher comp has a 50/50 chance to lose to this niche comp that 5% of the player base can run due to the Awakened Units and Gear Req but has a 100% win rate against the remaining 95%, how ever can I climb PvP with my 1 Lurcher, common SSR's and N/R/SR units". I'm sure Lurcher Comp win rate wasn't that good that both Ingrid and Assault Troopers are now Ban 1.
There's also a very big difference between "Strong Powercrept unit where Tech makes it easier to deal with them" VS "You need to run and draw Exodia in your opening hand else you lose the moment you draw a card." You do realize even for Goliath, people ran literal Anti-Mech setups with every possible Anti-Mech unit including Jun to tank that lost to any Non-Goliath comp and still lost terribly right? To the point that the only realistic Counter was a BUG where Goliath couldn't damage flying Towers which Goliath players played around by sniping it with Anti-Air and STILL won games. Jisoo is also still a problem despite how much high Burst damage was recently added in the game because she's still just too good at surviving for her cost and thus is also taking the Nerf Bat for a reason. I run Jisoo on my Strat Defense as the ONLY GEARED Unit and can still rack up Defense wins presumably because they can't kill her.
Let me throw this at you, are Rebecca/AJake required to kill the meta Mech comps? Or has Mechs still consistently lost when neither of them are on the enemy team? Do I need to run both? What about needing Rita or Mech Collector as well for 4 of them? Meanwhile, you've already just said Dino REQUIRES Veronica to even be killable, then there's still a strong Awk Defender like Ray oh and also a strong Sniper like Mordred (Curian didn't really work), don't forget a Ship that can Multi-hit and ASPD Slow like Pod else Lurcher still runs you down with CC. Or, I can just run Dino and Dino counters himself, wow.
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EL TATATATATATA LEGENDARIO!!!
🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣
Instant striker killer = operation op
체급은 이해하는데 경직이랑 밀기가 너무 좋음...
Spencer can't but brownie can
How did Vero killed Dino so fast? Dont it have 60hits immortality?
30 hits, 40 in pve
진짜 너프 먹을 정돈가? 따개가 이렇게 많은데
카운터픽을 하나나 둘 정도는 무조건 넣어야 하는데, 그게 리더가 아니라서 늦게 나오거나 아예 카운터픽이 없으면 그냥 못잡음
괜히 출시 이후 밴을 계속 먹은게 아님
공룡한테 당해보면 그런말이 안나옴
공룡 카운터들도 사람들이 대응 알아서
카운터 있어도 잡기힘듬 그리고 그냥 공룡
자체가 구성이 말도 안되는건 맞음
현수가 자기가 열심히 짱구 굴려서 내놓은 컨텐츠랑 기믹 공룡으로 날먹하는거 보기 싫으시다잖아~
@@chaosinsurgency-wh8gh 현수가 열심히 만든것
다이브 60층 각로자와 이지수로 힐막고
리벳으로 디펜 조지고 미카로 수면 막고
호라이즌으로 진형붕괴하는 애들을
한곳에 때려 넣어서 이터 수급 어렵게 하기
초반 캐릭 하스스톤때 못 막으면 너무 힘들어짐 고코스트 캐릭이긴한데...
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Is this post nerf?
Dino isn't nerfed yet
혹시 첫판 공룡 터진이유가 뭔가요??
큐리안이랑 같이 줘패니까 패시브 터지기 전에 죽은게 아닌가.. 싶네요 저도 저런경우는 첨본지라..
피 50전에 한번에 잡으면 불사가 안터져요
@@arc_en_ciel 감사합니당
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