Just imagine Baku in 1950 Lewis: Don't give Vettel the penalty, I think he went a bit outta control so he accidentally slammed me Vettel: Don't give Lewis the penalty, I think the safety car might have brake checked him so Lewis had to brake check also
Besides, if you ever stop so hard that seat belt would be necessary, changes are that you are dead in those cars anyway. They were not exactly what i would call safe. Best to just get as far away from it as fast as possible.
to everybody saying they had no seatbelts because they could be thrown clear of fires, you arent wrong, but you arent exactly right. there were no seatbelts because in general everyone thought in the event of a high speed, sometimes airbourne crash, like niki lauda in 1976, or, more recently, fernando alonso at melbourne in 2016, it was safer to be thrown clear of the car instead of being strapped in. but they soon realized that it was actually safer to be strapped into the car, with quick driver extracation becoming a focus point for f1 saftey. it lowered the number of driver deaths, with most afterwards being caused by other means, with the tragic death of gilles villeneuve in 1982 being a rare occasion of the seatbelt failing to work properly, although it cant be entirely to blame, as the entire front end of the canadians ferrari was ripped off the car
AURORA Stirling Moss in private was very BWOAH. Innes Ireland was a great joker too. He once climbed a tree standing outside a famous restaurant in which the drivers often ate after the races. When three of them stood under the tree to smoke their cigarettes he whipped out his pride and started peeing on them. They thought at first it was raining... but once they looked up and saw him Innes Ireland laughed like crazy. Back then pranks like these were accepted and men who risked their lives in racing cars and were covered with oil, rubber and all kinds of nasty asphalt and dust didn't make muss fuss of a fellow driver peeing on them from a tree.
2:15 That is one of the greatest racing photos of all time. Ascari sitting as you'd expect: hunched over in concentration. And then there's Fangio in front, casually leaning backwards like he's enjoying a countryside drive.
In 1957 and 1958, the German Grand Prix had two races in 1. To increase the field, the organisation allowed Formula 2 cars to participate. In 1958 this resulted in a 5th place by F2 driver Bruce McLaren. However, he didn't earn the 2 points for the 5th place, because he wasn't eligible for that. The 5th F1-driver, Cliff Allison, only finished 10th that race and didn't earn the points either.
I'm from Pescara and the awesome thing is that the track was built across 3 straight roads, which now are public roads and you can see some sculptures like one for "Mille miglia". It was awesome to think that F1 were running along the beach at full speed
@404 TV YEah it's stupid and also excecuted poorly. They always whine about 'bringing the field closer' but when you're not in top 10 you don't get the points.... what's the point of that??? Pathetic and unnesecary and now drivers take stupid risks.....
Would anyone else like to see a video game about prewar Grand Prix racing? 1920s, 1930s tracks and drivers, just a completely different ball game to anything we have now
The closest to that was the first Mafia game, where one story arc had the player take control of a 4WD Grand Prix car. Insanely difficult, what with the sliding about and the touchy brakes. That game is _definitely_ not a simulator, but in this context it might interest you
For me it was the fact that in the 1950's and into the 1960's, the dangers and risks the drivers took were celebrated as 'an act of bravery' and death was largely dismissed as 'part of the job description'
When I was a kid in the 90s I had a book of F1 stats and some of the 50s drivers would have points tallies like 34.76521. I knew that they would split points for shared races, so that accounted for some of the weirdness, but I had no idea about the shared points for fastest laps so that clears up how that all came to be. Thanks!
in the 1950's and early 60's few teams actually ran with 2 cars. front running teams like ferrari or vanwall ran 3 or 4 cars, while many privateer entries ran 1 car teams. the most successful and maybe most famous 1 car team is the 1963 lotus team which ran jim clark, which won both championships with a ( then) incredible total of 54 points, 25 points ( or 1 race win today ) ahead of closest rival, BRM driver graham hill. other more well known 1 car teams include ( i think ) mclaren in 1966 and minardi in 1985, while the most well known 3 car team being the alfa romeo drivers, juan manuel fangio, guiseppe 'nino' farina and luigi fagioli, more well known as the 3 F's, who won the drivers championship ( constuctors titles didnt become a championship until 1958 ) with a clean sweep in 1950. other successful 3 or 4 car teams include ferrari 1952 and 1961
Being able to score points in the Indy 500 needs to come back. It is always exciting to see big drivers try something new and it's great exposure for IndyCar and F1
Perscara was still dwarfed by Targa Florio. 72 km long. That place was absolutely insane. Like, Spa's the longest circuit F1 goes to these days, it's 7 km, meanwhile Targa Florio had an 8km STRAIGHTAWAY. And equally insane is the fact that the World Sportscar Championship used it until 1973.
Races in the 50s were often 500km and the early Ferrari's (1950 & 1951) only needed one stop to refuel while Alfa Romeo needed two, so cars went further before pitting for fuel and tyres
Fangio passed his rookie test at Indy in 1958, but never drove there. He did drive in a 200-mile race at the old Trenton oval that same year, though. (Jim Clark won an actual races at both Trenton AND Indy in 1965. Formula 2 was ALWAYS Formula 2 -- the championship was held for cars built to those specs in '52 and '53. There were, however, at least a few stand-alone, non-points races held for F1 cars at various points in those seasons. Non-points races were held in either or both of those years at Albi, Ulster, Chaterhall and Castle Comb and were driven by the likes of Fangio, Gonzalez, Moss, Ken Wharton and Reg Parnell.
Here's one thing that was strange in the 50's and remained strange for a long while: your worst x races didn't count. This meant in some cases that a driver leading the championship could not gain points in the final few races and thus could only advance by preventing their rivals from scoring points. The number of rounds counted changed over time but I think this went on through the 70's.
They did it every few years but it was never popular. It's only really works in small championships where it is possible that some drivers can't do all the races because of budget.
@@dylancotton2061 It made more sense in its time, and even up through the 80s, because the cars were much less reliable. By excluding your best and worst positions from the count it smooths out the effect of unreliability a bit.
chlillis Andrea de Cesaris was supposedly a long distant relative to Julius Caesar since the "de Cesaris" family stem from the Caesars of Ancient Rome. So of "ancient royal blood".
You are kind of insulting everyone in this era but yes f1 back then was different, engineer knew about aerodynamic since the 1920 and driver where not less fit they where stronger but with less endurance because of the harshness of the car they drove. Downforce was just not a thing because the tire and track of the time where not good enought so they made the car to go as fast as possible in a straight line. That's why f1 top speed is still 350kmh since the 1930s
Maybe not related to F1 but I've seen it in many oldies racing. When the start flag dropped, drivers had to run across the track to their cars which were parked on the other side, climb in, start the car, and drive away to begin the race.
Yes, because in order to make a quick getaway many drivers didn't bother with buckling themselves up and simply sat in the car and immediately drove away. This lead to some nasty accidents when the drivers crashed and didn't wear any safety belts... The classic LeMans start sort of worked in the old days but in the 60's when cars became much faster and the drivers had trouble seeing back and to the sides those kind of starts often led to start crashes and that sort of defeats the purpose of a 24 hour endurance race.
The weirdest (in fact, unknown for weird reason) thing about 50s is that there were no such FIA sanctioned series as today up until 1981. The races was organized independently, mostly by local automobile clubs, with various technical regulations, assigned numbers to cars etc. Only some of races (called Grandes Épreuves) were counted for "World Championship for Drivers", with no strict connection with the F1 class (hence Indy 500 and '52-'53 seasons withount any F1 cars there). Apart from that, lots of races were held in F1 class without any connections to the championship up until 80s. Actually, the first F1-class race was 1946 Turin Grand Prix and not 1950 British Grand Prix. 1952 Monaco Grand Prix was held in sports car class... And this is onlty the tip of the iceberg.
Look, for example, through the regulations of 1974 Swedish GP: forums.autosport.com/topic/63554-1974-swedish-grand-prix/ "If the number of F1 cars should prove insufficient in any event, the organizers will be entitled to include on the starting grid, in addition to the F1 cars already admitted, the following cars: F 2 F.Indy F.5000 and F.A."
That´s neither crazy nor weird. It´s counter intuitive but no seat belts saved more life than it cost. Cause getting out of the car was easier when it rolled over or caught fire. Even in 1970, Jochen Rindt refused to wear a complete safety belt cause of the fire possibility.
You shouldn't get more points for 2nd place (which is actually 3rd). The points are clearly counted wrong (although I can understand it was done so at the time). "Normally" you would give half of the points for 1st and 2nd points to the 2 drivers who tie 1st place. And then you would give 3rd place points to the next driver (who is 3rd). So in Formula 1 (at the time) the tied drivers would get 8 points each (half of 10+6 points) and the next driver (3rd) would get 4 points. If more drivers would be tied to the same position you would do it in similar fashion. To devide the points from the fastest lap seems about right. I would really like to see a season where the winner is decided over 1/7 point difference.
Even though it's not only from the 50s-60s, the whole scoring system needs a special mention. Only the best 4-5 results mattered at the end of the season. Also, there was no Constructors/Manufacturers Championship until 1958. Oh, and the GPs really meant Grand Prizes - racers got paid (dolla', dolla', cheddar, cheddar) by performing well in the GPs, and not by the teams.
Because of the Indy 500 being a championship race, America has had the 2nd most F1 drivers of any country behind the UK, and actually held the record until fairly recently.
Nope. America has the 2nd most World Championship drivers. That time the f1 and the world championship were two seperate thing. Not every F1 race were world championship races, for example in 52 and 53 all races counting towards the World Championship were F2 races and the indy 500.
I actually could see Hamilton arguing for Bottas. Especially since he locked up the drivers championship, and it would also help Mercedes with the constructors title. Not that they need help. If the rumors are true, and Daniel Ricciardo ends up with Mercedes next year, I could totally see either one of them helping each other in any way possible. Daniel comes across as such a down to earth, funny, and genuinely nice guy, as does Lewis. I hear people talk shit about Lewis sometimes, but he seems like a really good dude as well. I'd really like to see them on the same team.
First of, very nice video. Enjoyed that quite a bit. But ffs, I can't stand this hostile F1-community at the moment for much longer. Everyone bitching about engines being to small or drivers' safety measures with the halo-system or shark-fins which they think don't look so nice ... Guys, since when is F1 about looking nice or having a deeper rumbling engine? F1 is about making the fastest, most efficient and cutting-edge vehicles and sending them on a racetrack to fight each other!
Jon Too short, tight beyond all belief, the pit area is barely big enough for half the field and there is a massive bump right in the racing line on the longest straight that is not curved so drivers have to swerve across the straight to avoid it. Who gave this place a grade 1 license again? Put him with the guy who made that monstrosity they call a first corner at Oschersleben.
overTIMe but they don't just let it be about who makes the fastest cars. For example, the Mazda 787b race car's 4 rotor engine was banned because it was too good.
That's not why that Mazda engine was banned. Bernie Ecclestone somehow pulled some strings that caused a rule change that required all of the top class prototypes to run F1 type engines (some say he did this in order to preserve F1 at the top of motorsports popularity). Rotaries aren't banned anymore either. Also, the 787b won more due to attrition than anything else. The car wasn't that quick on the straights. It was a full 8 seconds slower in qualifying than the pole-winning Peugeot.
I do like the idea of points for fastest lap and points for most consistency. It would be interesting to see championships which award points for different reasons so that the slower teams can still do well and they could introduce points that lead to more exciting races and strategies. I'd probably trial it out in sim racing first though where it's easy to make changes and it doesn't really matter as much.
James Coyle look at Formula E season 2 mate, Buemi won the championship by just two points over Di Grassi after setting the fastest lap in the final race, where neither driver finished.
3:45 Silverstone Circuit is mostly the taxiway around a ww2 airfield. It’s Wellington Straight is named after the Vickers Wellington bomber aircraft that were based at RAF Silverstone and Wellington Straight is actually one of the old runways.
01:22 Trinn-Tick-Nount? Seriously?? As long as we have weird memes and absolutely non-related images in it, all the millenials understand ....some of it And 04:29: Sorry, wrong. In the 50s they used fairely sophisticated stopwatches, partly excellent swiss made ones. And the timekeepers got a very keen eye for the time.
There's still royalty in motor racing, if Austria still had a monarchy, the heir to the throne would be Ferdinand Habsburg, who drives for Carlin in F3 (and won a race at Spa in the last round) Johnny Dumfries also came from a noble family
So many of those drivers mentioned died in horrible race or testing crashes. Collins, Musso, Marimón, de Portago, Ascari, Behra, and de Beaufort (all mentioned in this video at some point) all perished in racing or testing accidents. de Portago's crash is what eventually caused the cancellation of the Mille Miglia as an event of the World Sportscar Championship as the speeds the cars were capable of were deemed simply too dangerous for a race on public roads. R.I.P.
Matt: Today, there are only professional drivers who are involved in driving from the little ones and it is not possible for someone to buy them Lance: Hold my father's money
very few f1 teams of the 1950's and some of the 1960's, for that matter, ran with two cars. the top teams like ferrari or vanwall ran 3 or 4 cars, while many privateer entries were 1 car teams, but the most notable 1 car team was the 1963 lotus team, who won the drivers and constuctors championship after jim clark finished the season on 54 points, 25 pionts ahead of second place graham hill, an astonishing feat back then, considering the seasons were only about 9 or ten races long with the winner picking up just 10 points, compared to todays 25. PS: Despite innes ireland driving for lotus in the 1963 season, he joined a different team before the end of the season, so his 6 championship points did not count towards lotus, therefore i do not count him as a second lotus entry for the 1963 championship.
An additional odd F1 stat, thanks to the Indy 500 counting as a World Championship race is that the driver with the best ratio of wins to race starts is.... not Fangio....... not Schumacher...... not Ascari..... not Hamilton...... not Vettel.... no, it's Lee Wallard. He started two Indy 500's in the 50's and won one of them giving him a 50% win ratio of races started, just ahead of Fangio.
Not all weird. The beautiful W196 streamliner, which you can still see at the MB museum in Stuttgart, was discarded after a while because its handling wasn’t as good as the open wheel version, which you can see next to the streamliner.
As a french, I tilted at the Reims pronunciation. As it's pretty weird and different from its reading, I'll try to explain : Do you know the french 1 ? "Un" ? You don't really have that one syllab in english, but this sound is how we pronounce our "in". (idk... "interieur"). And you also say the S at the end. It's "Rins".
- Car designs could last multiple seasons. - Customer cars were legal, teams didn’t have to build their own. - Very few drivers ran the full championship. - Courses were sometimes changed to make them faster (specifically Reims). - Drivers had different car numbers at each event. - Most cars used their national racing colors & had no sponsorship.
the drivers couldn t have the same number in their car.Each team gave different number in each driver which changed it from race to race . By the way, amazing video man
Drivers drunk and even smoked during their pit stops.
Epic
Jeez
It took like minute to change one whell so why not?
@@Ballin4Vengeance ROFL! Ozzie pit stop style!
Having a deathwish but not thinging you don't have
Just imagine Baku in 1950
Lewis: Don't give Vettel the penalty, I think he went a bit outta control so he accidentally slammed me
Vettel: Don't give Lewis the penalty, I think the safety car might have brake checked him so Lewis had to brake check also
ok
Do you want penyroyal tea guys?
Ferrari & Mercedes: we're looking for a couple of new drivers.
Lewis: Let Vettel drive the Mercedes and I'll take the Williams, so he has the chance to win at least one gp.
@@bastianmann4936 ... but he already won 4?
You should do a video on how famous corners on F1 tracks got their names. I've always been interested in that.
I know Eau rouge means red water or red river and uder that corner there is a river with 'red' water
That’s raldion actually
@@f1muffin643 thats not
He's the top three
1. Eur rouge/spa
2. Turn 8/Istanbul
3. Maggots and becketts/Silverstone
Maybe not F1, but I've always liked Knicker Brook at Oulton Park.
1950: here are 8 reasons why F1 is weird in the future
Joseph Stalin now now, send me to gulag
1) Safety???
2) Halo???
3) V6 TURBO ENGINES?!
4) Shorter Tracks
5) Seatbelts
6) Sponsors
7) WINGS AND AERODYNAMICS
8) NO STREAMLINE MODELS AT ALL
Because it will also go electric 😂
im hitler and joseph stalin u are right
Number 1: There's a little thing called "Lewis" and it just ruins everything!
F1 was weird in the 50s because they filmed it in black and white, like why tf would you do that
Aaron ,
History bitch! ❤
It's becasue the cars were so fast that the camera's couldn't keep up with the colours...
Idiot, people in the '50s could only see in black and white - no reason for them to film in colour
speed of color!
ksells they actually have some races filmed in color but back then the color films was expensive
WTF1: "There were points for fastest lap"
Me sitting here in 2019:
No seat-belts.
Drivers used to prefer being thrown from the car (breaking a few bones) to being burnt to death.
Since back then there were so much car fires, it made sense.
SamTheDitto I'd rather take on the pavement at high speed than being strapped to a bomb
Besides, if you ever stop so hard that seat belt would be necessary, changes are that you are dead in those cars anyway. They were not exactly what i would call safe. Best to just get as far away from it as fast as possible.
to everybody saying they had no seatbelts because they could be thrown clear of fires, you arent wrong, but you arent exactly right. there were no seatbelts because in general everyone thought in the event of a high speed, sometimes airbourne crash, like niki lauda in 1976, or, more recently, fernando alonso at melbourne in 2016, it was safer to be thrown clear of the car instead of being strapped in. but they soon realized that it was actually safer to be strapped into the car, with quick driver extracation becoming a focus point for f1 saftey. it lowered the number of driver deaths, with most afterwards being caused by other means, with the tragic death of gilles villeneuve in 1982 being a rare occasion of the seatbelt failing to work properly, although it cant be entirely to blame, as the entire front end of the canadians ferrari was ripped off the car
There was no BWOAH in the 1950's
Preach
AURORA Stirling Moss in private was very BWOAH. Innes Ireland was a great joker too. He once climbed a tree standing outside a famous restaurant in which the drivers often ate after the races. When three of them stood under the tree to smoke their cigarettes he whipped out his pride and started peeing on them. They thought at first it was raining... but once they looked up and saw him Innes Ireland laughed like crazy.
Back then pranks like these were accepted and men who risked their lives in racing cars and were covered with oil, rubber and all kinds of nasty asphalt and dust didn't make muss fuss of a fellow driver peeing on them from a tree.
What is BWOAH?
Slavko Gelo Kimi Raikkonen’s signature catch phrase
AURORA 2019 no more too
When the commentator says "Juan Manuel Fangio" I keep hearing "One Man Fangio"
Batuhan Aksiner One Punch Fangio?
XDDDDDDDDDDD
I hear "One Manwell Fangio"
i read that and a second later he said it and yep, same. :')
Me too
So F1 isn't just a key on a keyboard?
No just no
I see u
Fuck you
No it's not. Turning right is also a thing.
Are You seriuous
2:15 That is one of the greatest racing photos of all time. Ascari sitting as you'd expect: hunched over in concentration. And then there's Fangio in front, casually leaning backwards like he's enjoying a countryside drive.
More because 1 car is open and the other closed...
@@IStMl no Fangio was just the best driver of all time, and you could hunch in the two of them !
5:29 "Cabeza de Vaca", that is LITERALLY "Cow Head" in Spanish.
Victor Hugo yes it is XD
I'm hanging like a COW :((
JAJAJJA si es verdad xddd
yes, i love being spanish
@@diegootero1686 jajaja
In 1957 and 1958, the German Grand Prix had two races in 1. To increase the field, the organisation allowed Formula 2 cars to participate. In 1958 this resulted in a 5th place by F2 driver Bruce McLaren. However, he didn't earn the 2 points for the 5th place, because he wasn't eligible for that. The 5th F1-driver, Cliff Allison, only finished 10th that race and didn't earn the points either.
Also at Morrocan GP in 1958 F2 cars were allowed..and then again in the 60's
@@jancaniga6994 Since F1 only has 3 teams right now, they allow another formula race with them. McLaren is leading that pack this year.
@@sloppynyuszi Yeah Yeah 😁🤣🤣
I'm from Pescara and the awesome thing is that the track was built across 3 straight roads, which now are public roads and you can see some sculptures like one for "Mille miglia". It was awesome to think that F1 were running along the beach at full speed
They didn't wear full face protecting helmets and no freaking fire resistance suits!
TheBrass18 they uses ski glasses against the wind😂
NBr33zll you're goddamn right
NBr33zll They all died horrible.
Saul Nunez Safety*
They weren't brave, just ignorant lol
4:12 "There were points for fastest lap."
Well now there *IS* a point for fastest lap.
@404 TV YEah it's stupid and also excecuted poorly. They always whine about 'bringing the field closer' but when you're not in top 10 you don't get the points.... what's the point of that??? Pathetic and unnesecary and now drivers take stupid risks.....
f1 was weird in the 50 because if a car flipt , 9 of the 10 you died because of your head hitting the ground first
Teletuppie17 no seatbelt
Teletuppie17 that's why they added the Halo
@@LegoWormNoah101 That why they added rollbar in the 60s
@@L.internet8 Which race did it debut, then disappear?
@@L.internet8 No! F1 saw how robust the Halo was, and approved it! *IT'S STAYING IN F1 WETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!!!*
If maldonado raced in the 1950's he only last a race..... and not because he will be fired
Zachary Menking #texit there were’nt even fp1 at that era 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
1st think in my head,
Big chance He shall be fried. :(
He would have died from crashes
Renan P. Jenie yeah, his team would have probably put him in a deep frier.
dead
Being argentinian I love his pronunciation of Juan Manuel Fangio
At times I understand One man wheel Fangio lmao
Would anyone else like to see a video game about prewar Grand Prix racing? 1920s, 1930s tracks and drivers, just a completely different ball game to anything we have now
The closest to that was the first Mafia game, where one story arc had the player take control of a 4WD Grand Prix car. Insanely difficult, what with the sliding about and the touchy brakes.
That game is _definitely_ not a simulator, but in this context it might interest you
You can do it in assetto corsa, were you can download race cars from the 30s and circuits from the 30s
Me! I used to play a lot The Spirit of Speed 1937. th-cam.com/video/YZ-Wp3BJzbE/w-d-xo.html
No
At the moment in F3 is the heir to the line of Habsburg, the former Royal Family of Austria.
Ciarán Reed I was about to say that as well.
Also Mick Schumacher. I'd count that surname to royalty as well :D
And the Swedish Duke of Värmland, Prince Carl Philip raced in the STCC for a good number of years. Now in Swedish GT
Ferdinand of Habsburg, right?
And Baron Albert II von Thurn und Taxis races regularly, often in sports cars.
GuzziHero Now he is in European Rally Championship. And sometimes in Blancpain GT Series in Lambo Gallardo of Reiter Engineering
In 1954, Jean Behra was classified in the championship without earning a single point. He, however, did have 1/7th point for said fastest lap :')
For me it was the fact that in the 1950's and into the 1960's, the dangers and risks the drivers took were celebrated as 'an act of bravery' and death was largely dismissed as 'part of the job description'
When I was a kid in the 90s I had a book of F1 stats and some of the 50s drivers would have points tallies like 34.76521. I knew that they would split points for shared races, so that accounted for some of the weirdness, but I had no idea about the shared points for fastest laps so that clears up how that all came to be. Thanks!
How true is it that at one point of time in the '50s, an f1 driver found himself kidnapped?
Randolph de Leon Yes, Fangio at the Cuban Grand Prix
Mr XI Thanks for the reply, mate.
Randolph de Leon Yes, Fangio was kidnapped before the Cuban Grand Prix!
He actually became very good friends with the kidnappers!!
The Cuban GP wasn't an official championship race however, it was run by Formula 2 rules at the time
in the 1950's and early 60's few teams actually ran with 2 cars. front running teams like ferrari or vanwall ran 3 or 4 cars, while many privateer entries ran 1 car teams. the most successful and maybe most famous 1 car team is the 1963 lotus team which ran jim clark, which won both championships with a ( then) incredible total of 54 points, 25 points ( or 1 race win today ) ahead of closest rival, BRM driver graham hill. other more well known 1 car teams include ( i think ) mclaren in 1966 and minardi in 1985, while the most well known 3 car team being the alfa romeo drivers, juan manuel fangio, guiseppe 'nino' farina and luigi fagioli, more well known as the 3 F's, who won the drivers championship ( constuctors titles didnt become a championship until 1958 ) with a clean sweep in 1950. other successful 3 or 4 car teams include ferrari 1952 and 1961
How could you NOT mention the legendary Wolfgang Alexander Albert Eduard Maximilian Reichsgraf Berghe von Trips?!
In addition, Von Trips came from Hurth, North Rhine Westphalia. Hurth is also the hometown of Michael Schumacher.
Being able to score points in the Indy 500 needs to come back. It is always exciting to see big drivers try something new and it's great exposure for IndyCar and F1
What was weird in the f1 1950s is that dying in a car crash was apparently normal
Perscara was still dwarfed by Targa Florio. 72 km long. That place was absolutely insane. Like, Spa's the longest circuit F1 goes to these days, it's 7 km, meanwhile Targa Florio had an 8km STRAIGHTAWAY.
And equally insane is the fact that the World Sportscar Championship used it until 1973.
F*ck first place again? dammit i'm horrible at f1!
Races in the 50s were often 500km and the early Ferrari's (1950 & 1951) only needed one stop to refuel while Alfa Romeo needed two, so cars went further before pitting for fuel and tyres
The word for word editing is making me feel sick
.. and the gabbling.
69like
Fangio passed his rookie test at Indy in 1958, but never drove there. He did drive in a 200-mile race at the old Trenton oval that same year, though. (Jim Clark won an actual races at both Trenton AND Indy in 1965. Formula 2 was ALWAYS Formula 2 -- the championship was held for cars built to those specs in '52 and '53. There were, however, at least a few stand-alone, non-points races held for F1 cars at various points in those seasons. Non-points races were held in either or both of those years at Albi, Ulster, Chaterhall and Castle Comb and were driven by the likes of Fangio, Gonzalez, Moss, Ken Wharton and Reg Parnell.
Stroll wasnt present in the 1950s
He was barely around in the 90's
LucasPS4Gaming No Maldonado or Grosjean. They must have been happy days.
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Here's one thing that was strange in the 50's and remained strange for a long while: your worst x races didn't count. This meant in some cases that a driver leading the championship could not gain points in the final few races and thus could only advance by preventing their rivals from scoring points. The number of rounds counted changed over time but I think this went on through the 70's.
I think this was true during the senna and prost times. Something like your x best finishes counted. I could be wrong tho
Yep, the last such season was 1990. This rule is why Senna won the title in 1988, despite Prost having scored loads more points.
They did it every few years but it was never popular. It's only really works in small championships where it is possible that some drivers can't do all the races because of budget.
@@dylancotton2061 It made more sense in its time, and even up through the 80s, because the cars were much less reliable. By excluding your best and worst positions from the count it smooths out the effect of unreliability a bit.
Back when Argentina was relevant in the motorsports world :(
i mean there is still jose maria lopez
motogp races in argentina
Didn't Johnny Dumfries (Senna's teammate in 86) have royal connections?
he did
John Colum Crichton-Stuart, 7th Marquess of Bute styled Earl of Dumfries to give him his full title.
chlillis Andrea de Cesaris was supposedly a long distant relative to Julius Caesar since the "de Cesaris" family stem from the Caesars of Ancient Rome. So of "ancient royal blood".
You are kind of insulting everyone in this era but yes f1 back then was different, engineer knew about aerodynamic since the 1920 and driver where not less fit they where stronger but with less endurance because of the harshness of the car they drove.
Downforce was just not a thing because the tire and track of the time where not good enought so they made the car to go as fast as possible in a straight line.
That's why f1 top speed is still 350kmh since the 1930s
Maybe not related to F1 but I've seen it in many oldies racing. When the start flag dropped, drivers had to run across the track to their cars which were parked on the other side, climb in, start the car, and drive away to begin the race.
Anas Takiyudin That was the traditional start method for Le Mans 24hr. They decided it was too dangerous and changed it some time in the 60s or 70s
Yes, because in order to make a quick getaway many drivers didn't bother with buckling themselves up and simply sat in the car and immediately drove away. This lead to some nasty accidents when the drivers crashed and didn't wear any safety belts...
The classic LeMans start sort of worked in the old days but in the 60's when cars became much faster and the drivers had trouble seeing back and to the sides those kind of starts often led to start crashes and that sort of defeats the purpose of a 24 hour endurance race.
The weirdest (in fact, unknown for weird reason) thing about 50s is that there were no such FIA sanctioned series as today up until 1981. The races was organized independently, mostly by local automobile clubs, with various technical regulations, assigned numbers to cars etc. Only some of races (called Grandes Épreuves) were counted for "World Championship for Drivers", with no strict connection with the F1 class (hence Indy 500 and '52-'53 seasons withount any F1 cars there).
Apart from that, lots of races were held in F1 class without any connections to the championship up until 80s. Actually, the first F1-class race was 1946 Turin Grand Prix and not 1950 British Grand Prix. 1952 Monaco Grand Prix was held in sports car class... And this is onlty the tip of the iceberg.
Look, for example, through the regulations of 1974 Swedish GP:
forums.autosport.com/topic/63554-1974-swedish-grand-prix/
"If the number of F1 cars should prove insufficient in any event, the organizers will be entitled to include on the starting grid, in addition to the F1 cars already admitted, the following cars: F 2 F.Indy F.5000 and F.A."
They had 3 drivers for 1 team
And some teams had 1 car
Heck, sometimes there were 4 or 5, and if you count in private entries even 8 or 9.
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Not to mention you could finish second and third place at the same time somehow by sharing your drive
In 1953, Indy 500-winner Bill Vukovich even co-lead the championship together with Alberto Ascari.
That is not how you pronounce Siam.
inb4 8 Reasons Why Matt Can't Pronounce Words
WTF1 get rekt Matt
They're putting dries on!
Ciarán Reed We are seeeameese if you please. Actually works better with the incorrect pronunciation
See 'em
Weird because the death rates were so high, you’d have to change your favorite driver at least once a season
I wouldn't say it's weird, but interesting and crazy, that they raced at 200+ kph WITHOUT seatbelts! :o
That´s neither crazy nor weird. It´s counter intuitive but no seat belts saved more life than it cost. Cause getting out of the car was easier when it rolled over or caught fire. Even in 1970, Jochen Rindt refused to wear a complete safety belt cause of the fire possibility.
imagine pescara in forza 7 :O
GT Sport :O
or PC2. or Rfactor. or-
Or Asseto Corsa !
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a....little extreme
F1 was weird back later because without the help of WTF1, I couldn't know how F1 works.
You shouldn't get more points for 2nd place (which is actually 3rd). The points are clearly counted wrong (although I can understand it was done so at the time). "Normally" you would give half of the points for 1st and 2nd points to the 2 drivers who tie 1st place. And then you would give 3rd place points to the next driver (who is 3rd). So in Formula 1 (at the time) the tied drivers would get 8 points each (half of 10+6 points) and the next driver (3rd) would get 4 points. If more drivers would be tied to the same position you would do it in similar fashion. To devide the points from the fastest lap seems about right. I would really like to see a season where the winner is decided over 1/7 point difference.
Even though it's not only from the 50s-60s, the whole scoring system needs a special mention.
Only the best 4-5 results mattered at the end of the season.
Also, there was no Constructors/Manufacturers Championship until 1958.
Oh, and the GPs really meant Grand Prizes - racers got paid (dolla', dolla', cheddar, cheddar) by performing well in the GPs, and not by the teams.
Wolfgang von Trips started racing in the 50's. You could have mentioned him, Mathew!
And points for fasted lap is back
1950s: For 2 years,there was no Formula 1
2020s: May I introduced, *The Corona*
3:26
I'm here after Sir Moss's passing just to hear this story...RIP
Because of the Indy 500 being a championship race, America has had the 2nd most F1 drivers of any country behind the UK, and actually held the record until fairly recently.
Nope. America has the 2nd most World Championship drivers. That time the f1 and the world championship were two seperate thing. Not every F1 race were world championship races, for example in 52 and 53 all races counting towards the World Championship were F2 races and the indy 500.
4:12 2019 season: Hello there
Hamilton racing in the 50s:
Bono , my cigarette has ran out.
Bono: Alright Lewis, box to light a new ciggy
Found this video in my recomended feed.... it was more fun than i expected :D
I actually could see Hamilton arguing for Bottas. Especially since he locked up the drivers championship, and it would also help Mercedes with the constructors title. Not that they need help. If the rumors are true, and Daniel Ricciardo ends up with Mercedes next year, I could totally see either one of them helping each other in any way possible. Daniel comes across as such a down to earth, funny, and genuinely nice guy, as does Lewis. I hear people talk shit about Lewis sometimes, but he seems like a really good dude as well. I'd really like to see them on the same team.
First of, very nice video. Enjoyed that quite a bit.
But ffs, I can't stand this hostile F1-community at the moment for much longer. Everyone bitching about engines being to small or drivers' safety measures with the halo-system or shark-fins which they think don't look so nice ...
Guys, since when is F1 about looking nice or having a deeper rumbling engine? F1 is about making the fastest, most efficient and cutting-edge vehicles and sending them on a racetrack to fight each other!
overTIMe thats why i love to watch wec. but sadly only toyota remains. but i like the rules and hate the tight rules of f1.
overTIMe Classicism, if Monaco joined the calendar recently instead of 1950 then it would get shit
Jon Too short, tight beyond all belief, the pit area is barely big enough for half the field and there is a massive bump right in the racing line on the longest straight that is not curved so drivers have to swerve across the straight to avoid it. Who gave this place a grade 1 license again? Put him with the guy who made that monstrosity they call a first corner at Oschersleben.
overTIMe but they don't just let it be about who makes the fastest cars. For example, the Mazda 787b race car's 4 rotor engine was banned because it was too good.
That's not why that Mazda engine was banned. Bernie Ecclestone somehow pulled some strings that caused a rule change that required all of the top class prototypes to run F1 type engines (some say he did this in order to preserve F1 at the top of motorsports popularity). Rotaries aren't banned anymore either. Also, the 787b won more due to attrition than anything else. The car wasn't that quick on the straights. It was a full 8 seconds slower in qualifying than the pole-winning Peugeot.
I do like the idea of points for fastest lap and points for most consistency. It would be interesting to see championships which award points for different reasons so that the slower teams can still do well and they could introduce points that lead to more exciting races and strategies. I'd probably trial it out in sim racing first though where it's easy to make changes and it doesn't really matter as much.
James Coyle look at Formula E season 2 mate, Buemi won the championship by just two points over Di Grassi after setting the fastest lap in the final race, where neither driver finished.
This makes me wish I was born in the 40’s.
Then hibernate until 2006 cos damn this era i live in is amazing.
Watching a 1950s f1 race:
Driver:drinks
Me:I would like to report a drunk driver
Wtf1 is the reason i live. Its the best channel on youtube
Absolutely love this channel. You always keep us entertained even when F1 action has taken a break. Can't wait for Spa😁😁😁. Cheers mates.
It's quite hard to imagine Lewis Hamilton protesting a penalty against nico rosberg because the stewards never punish him
Connor Smith What? Rosberg was punished in Austria, Silverstone, Germany, Sepang... what do you mean the stewards never punished him?
Fábio Rodrigues You mean the team gave him a little telling off?
Hamilton is the one getting away with everything
I think you will find the difference is Stirling Moss is a gentleman and a sportsman.
3:45 Silverstone Circuit is mostly the taxiway around a ww2 airfield. It’s Wellington Straight is named after the Vickers Wellington bomber aircraft that were based at RAF Silverstone and Wellington Straight is actually one of the old runways.
who ever edits these video
you are amazing
01:22 Trinn-Tick-Nount? Seriously?? As long as we have weird memes and absolutely non-related images in it, all the millenials understand ....some of it And 04:29: Sorry, wrong. In the 50s they used fairely sophisticated stopwatches, partly excellent swiss made ones. And the timekeepers got a very keen eye for the time.
There's still royalty in motor racing, if Austria still had a monarchy, the heir to the throne would be Ferdinand Habsburg, who drives for Carlin in F3 (and won a race at Spa in the last round)
Johnny Dumfries also came from a noble family
Habsburg for 2019 also raced in DTM with aston martin 😂
So many of those drivers mentioned died in horrible race or testing crashes. Collins, Musso, Marimón, de Portago, Ascari, Behra, and de Beaufort (all mentioned in this video at some point) all perished in racing or testing accidents. de Portago's crash is what eventually caused the cancellation of the Mille Miglia as an event of the World Sportscar Championship as the speeds the cars were capable of were deemed simply too dangerous for a race on public roads.
R.I.P.
Wait, reupload? What was wrong with the original?
Copyright maybe ?
It's not copyright, but copywrong
Copy Middle
Copy Machine
Copycats
4:03 is my favorite part lol "made the Nordschleife look like Shanghai"
peter Collins and moss Have My Respect
Matt: Today, there are only professional drivers who are involved in driving from the little ones and it is not possible for someone to buy them
Lance: Hold my father's money
Who's here after fastest laps earned a points in 2019
@@Jai-j7e The year in which no F1 race was held?
@@Jai-j7e Exactly!
very few f1 teams of the 1950's and some of the 1960's, for that matter, ran with two cars. the top teams like ferrari or vanwall ran 3 or 4 cars, while many privateer entries were 1 car teams, but the most notable 1 car team was the 1963 lotus team, who won the drivers and constuctors championship after jim clark finished the season on 54 points, 25 pionts ahead of second place graham hill, an astonishing feat back then, considering the seasons were only about 9 or ten races long with the winner picking up just 10 points, compared to todays 25.
PS: Despite innes ireland driving for lotus in the 1963 season, he joined a different team before the end of the season, so his 6 championship points did not count towards lotus, therefore i do not count him as a second lotus entry for the 1963 championship.
I wish i could tell matt back then the point fot fastest lap is back in 2019
F1 was weird because the cars all looked different. Today most of them look the same besides the Liveries.
Why was this taken down yesterday?
Great video, IMO. Thanks for making it.
In the 50s
F1 Racer:Im in 1st place!!!
F1 Chief :NOO YOU HAVE TO BE IN 2ND PLACE CAUSE YOU GET MORE POINTS
F1 Fans :What?
I'm french and I laughed so much when you said "Reims" !
Well, that was nothing, you probably did not even realize when he completely butchered the pronunciation of Trintignant
Pit stops were longer than the current pit stops (50's +1min) (Today 2.4 secs)
*1.9 secs
There is only one reason to love F1 in 1950's. Its called Juan Manuel Fangio
An additional odd F1 stat, thanks to the Indy 500 counting as a World Championship race is that the driver with the best ratio of wins to race starts is.... not Fangio....... not Schumacher...... not Ascari..... not Hamilton...... not Vettel.... no, it's Lee Wallard. He started two Indy 500's in the 50's and won one of them giving him a 50% win ratio of races started, just ahead of Fangio.
Re-Upload? Been waiting for this upload since I saw it yesterday :D
Y u forget Wolfgang von Trips?
2120: Here's what makes F1 2020s so interesting
1. Coronavirus
2018: Halo 2019: go kart cage fitted around wheels 2020: military grade bulletproof armour to replace carbon fibre
Dave Meese and 2021 adding machine guns and canons?
Dave Meese 2022, the ability to call in an air strike on any driver of your choice
2025 death race starts
Damm, ol'mate at 2:01 was going to a boxing match after the race obviously. Talk about multi talented.
SPLENDID VIDEO MIGHT I SAY......
WOR Grumbly it should we I MIGHT SAY
*_SMASHING_*
Holy schnikes I knew things were different back then but wow, wtf?! I feel kinda dumb now lol. Great vid! I gotta watch it a couple more times though
Fangio, un orgullo argentino! We miss so much the Argentina GP.
SKSTIYO obvio, un honor que nos hata representado. Y esperemos que vuelva la F1 q va a ser una fiesta
SKSTIYO que circuito era?
Celador 14 Ahora me fijo
Celador 14 el N°9
Not all weird. The beautiful W196 streamliner, which you can still see at the MB museum in Stuttgart, was discarded after a while because its handling wasn’t as good as the open wheel version, which you can see next to the streamliner.
As a french, I tilted at the Reims pronunciation. As it's pretty weird and different from its reading, I'll try to explain :
Do you know the french 1 ? "Un" ? You don't really have that one syllab in english, but this sound is how we pronounce our "in". (idk... "interieur"). And you also say the S at the end. It's "Rins".
Gotta give Matt some credit for trying...
He isn't French if you didn't know.
Oh, I didn't want to sound mean ! It's just I thought it was good knowledge to know its pronunciation, rather than misspelling it
Alex Gal moi aussi ça m'as piqué un peu l'oreille.
Sympa le mec qui gère wtf1 en tout cas mdrrr
he did a very good job for the "r" though!
"Blablabla... French are unpleasant people... blablabla"
- Car designs could last multiple seasons.
- Customer cars were legal, teams didn’t have to build their own.
- Very few drivers ran the full championship.
- Courses were sometimes changed to make them faster (specifically Reims).
- Drivers had different car numbers at each event.
- Most cars used their national racing colors & had no sponsorship.
Auto Union started the streamline F1 not Mercedes
Also the streamline F1 started in the 30's before the ww2
Joao Tavares Anachronism. By the time Formula 1 (Formula A initially) came around, Auto Union was long gone as a brand.
Quintinohthree auto union stop existing in the 70's when vw bought it and changed the name to audi
Joao Tavares I think they mean it’s first known used in proper F1 (just what I think don’t get annoyed
the drivers couldn t have the same number in their car.Each team gave different number in each driver which changed it from race to race . By the way, amazing video man