If you use the controller that came with it. It is probable just making 50 watt's +/-. I tested my vevor 500 with the controller that came with it and got only 6 amps max (72 watts) before the break kicked in. ( unknow wind speed ) With a 3 phase rectifier ( NO BREAK ) at top speed of my battery drill ( 1600 rpm ) I got only 29 amps. Hurricane wind. If you use a better controller so you can set it to break later then it might make 100 - 150 watts. Me I'm going to use the 3 phase rectifier ( NO BREAK ) and a kill switch for big storms to save the battery's from higher voltage and over charge. 350 watts is 29.17 amps 12 vdc at 1600 rpm. This thing should be labeled as a 100 watt turbine
I was researching this Vevor model for my RV and several folks mentioned it only produces a fraction of the 500 watts advertised (unless you're in a huge wind). I'm OK with that as if it just makes around 100 watts overnight it will keep my batteries somewhat charged when the solar is not working. Sales must be down as this is on sale for only $91 now. Cheap price for me to enter the wind turbine hobby.
Very good. Now what is the wind speed per rpm. That would that us all we need to know. May have to go to a 3 phase rectifier to not stop the turbine. If they want to stop it at 50 something watts is not good.
I just ordered one. I know they are crap. I can use the blades for my Amtec 30-volt motors. At 950 rpm they make 15 amps dc. Much better than this Chinese turbine. But I have a servo motor that is 3 phase that I can use the controller on. I did do a test on the servo motor. 14 vac 3 phase is 135 rpm. I know that is slow. Unknow wind speed. Hoping the 5 blades will be about right for 12 volts charging out of it.
I really want to vuild a turbine with a gear box (belts are better) like the big boys. Low rpm ok, gear box gives you the rpm. Its the large surfflace area thats killing me figuring out.
I made one time with 4 foot blades cut 1 foot at the hub and 4 inch at the end. Just 1/2 plywood for a test. No idea what the angle of the blades was. Used 2 bicycle sprockets and the chain on a frame I made. Ran a 90 volt dc motor rated at 5 amps at 90 volts and got the full 5 amps that it was rated . That is 5 amps 12 dc to the battery. Then the thin pole bent and stopped it. Yes gearing will work. But better have a good braking system.
500 watts at 12 volts should be 41.6 Amps so I couldnt tell what the load current was when it hit the brake. But you need a good load that will draw the 41 amps at 12 volts and a gel cell battery just wont do it. Try a rundown car battery or a car battery tester.
I've had this thing running on my system with a 2000 watt inverter. It just doesn't produce. I get what you're saying, you need somewhere for the energy to travel to. I see that with my solar as well. I'm still running this and to date haven't hit 500 watts. It wouldn't even charge my one 100 ah AGM battery. I think I got a bad one.
A lot of these cheaper wind turbines are rated in average watts delivered per 24 hours. This is deceptive advertising in my opinion but it is what they do. So your 46 watts was probably the actual output. For a true cost of wind turbines, figure about $3 to $5 per watt for the generator head.
starting to get close to the nail with this comment. 12 volts, 42A, 500W... into a 0R286 load. the gel cel needs 14.4v to start charging. at 14.4v, 500W is 35A. across 0R414. now you have an issue of the battery internal resistance being far lower. it tries to pull more current, the voltage sags, the battery is no longer charging or pulling current, the voltage rises, the battery tries drawing current, the voltage sags... the actual charge rate is dictated by the internal resistance of the batteries, and the ideal load for the generator itself. it will level itself out where the battery will pull the supply down to just enough where it can just absorb a certain current, and no more. and as the wind is all over the place, trying to deal with this fluctuating input power is a nightmare. if you short the generator, all the power will appear as heat in the windings, and a large current will flow. if you open circuit it, the voltage rises, and no current flows. no heat is generated anywhere. and somewhere in between is this ideal load that sags the generator down appropriately, so the voltage and current appears as heat predominately in the LOAD where its wanted. batteries are a STUPID WAY TO HARNESS WIND POWER. they are not matched to the source, you are throwing away all the milk and keeping the cream. and a battery also cannot absorb power beyond a certain point. rather than harness the power in wind that increases at the cube of the velocity, we go and apply brakes and throw away the baby with the bathwater. though our generators arent much good at delivering power at a cubic rate, either, they tend to load things down linearly, then plateau... saturated, unable to do any more. so again, we have to apply brakes. friction... make heat... energy conversion... but we just dump it. wasted. loss. "useless". yet all our coal and nuclear stations simply use heat to boil water? and as i pointed out, the actual power delivered is also a matter of the load encountered. not just the generator, not just the turbine or wind speed, but the TOTAL SYSTEM matters. whatever. noone gets it. just strap more batteries on. yay. batteries. inverters. electronics proudly supplied by LG, samsung, and toshiba. support our brands.
I realized the sound quality after I finished the video. Ended up being the 3.5mm jack wasn't seated all the way. I've invested in wireless microphones now, should be an improvement 🤞
yeh theyre garbage from all the videos ive seen was hoping they were good because the price is right. go for a low wind low rpm turbine , hurricane wind power is decent, im in Australia but their turbines are not too bad. big blades equals low wind power. gotta balance your blade and hub assembly as a complete unit for the vibration it'll spin faster too and make more power like any turbine, rpms = power. ive seen those controllers inhibit power output, internal resistance im "guessing" , John Daniels uses them in a different way , he uses two of the three phase wires from the controller to switch a relay instead diverting turbine power to a dumpload. checkout james biggar wind turbine you will learn ALOT. sorry if i seem like a know it all just trying to help you, been there done that if you know what i mean LOL.
Hey, thanks for the comment. I'll definitely check out that channel. I totally appreciate any and all input especially from people like yourself that have experience. I was going to do a follow-up video telling people to save their money. I did it for a test and to add to my channel, I'm thankful that I was ready to be let down (the whole too good to be true thing).
@@johnbutler5208 maybe your turbine is one of the good ones from a good manufacturer , there are tons of manufacturers with identical appearance some are professionally built others are not some meet advertised specifications others dont even come close. its amazing when you pull them appart the differences can be massive from garbage windings, weak magnets etc , thats my experience, its why i build by own now.
Also ich denke dass Sie mit diesen Regler nicht über 50 W kommen,Ab 50 W schaltet sich Bremse ein und Generator ist blokiert. Ich denke das Generator keine 500 W gibt.Bitte, wenn möglich, messen Sie Widerstand zwischen 2 Phasen(zwischen2 Drähte die aus Generator heraus gehen).Widerstand soll kleiner als 1 Ohm sein,wenn er einige Ohm hat dann ist Generator nicht gut,er nimmt viel Leistung an.Das ist alles Verlustleistung.Je größer der Widerstand kleiner ist Wirkungsgrad.Um Unterschied zu sehen,messen Sie auch zwischen 2 Phasen Widerstand an einem Auto Alternator(Generator).Dann sehen Sie Unterschied. Gruß und schöne Tag noch.
*All practical tests show that small wind turbines hardly generate any electricity! And only at very high costs!* Because there is hardly any wind close to the ground. It is also extremely gusty, which usually shortens the service life. Only if you need to be self-sufficient from the power grid, you should buy a small wind turbine for the winter. *With solar modules, on the other hand, you can reliably generate green electricity for 25 years at approx. 3-10 cent/kWh!*
I'll have to look into this. The Vevor was an impulse buy without a lot of research. Might consider something for the springtime. Right now I'm concentrating on storage capacity. That's the most expensive part in my opinion.
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If you use the controller that came with it. It is probable just making 50 watt's +/-. I tested my vevor 500 with the controller that came with it and got only 6 amps max (72 watts) before the break kicked in. ( unknow wind speed ) With a 3 phase rectifier ( NO BREAK ) at top speed of my battery drill ( 1600 rpm ) I got only 29 amps. Hurricane wind. If you use a better controller so you can set it to break later then it might make 100 - 150 watts. Me I'm going to use the 3 phase rectifier ( NO BREAK ) and a kill switch for big storms to save the battery's from higher voltage and over charge. 350 watts is 29.17 amps 12 vdc at 1600 rpm. This thing should be labeled as a 100 watt turbine
That lines up with the results I was getting.
I love the 60hz hum in the audio. Reminds me of my 1/2" vhs and 3/⁴" umatic editing days.
It's better than it was. My first videos were pretty bad. I need to get a good microphone. Got any suggestions?
I was researching this Vevor model for my RV and several folks mentioned it only produces a fraction of the 500 watts advertised (unless you're in a huge wind). I'm OK with that as if it just makes around 100 watts overnight it will keep my batteries somewhat charged when the solar is not working. Sales must be down as this is on sale for only $91 now. Cheap price for me to enter the wind turbine hobby.
In good steady wind you'll get 90 to 120 watts out of this unit.
I’ve been trying to get mine going for 3 days now. I don’t understand where Im going wrong
Wind generator is an infinite source of environmentally friendly energy. Thank you for sharing
Very good. Now what is the wind speed per rpm. That would that us all we need to know.
May have to go to a 3 phase rectifier to not stop the turbine. If they want to stop it at 50 something watts is not good.
I have no idea. There isn't anything like that listed on the specifications.
I just ordered one. I know they are crap. I can use the blades for my Amtec 30-volt motors. At 950 rpm they make 15 amps dc. Much better than this Chinese turbine. But I have a servo motor that is 3 phase that I can use the controller on. I did do a test on the servo motor. 14 vac 3 phase is 135 rpm. I know that is slow. Unknow wind speed. Hoping the 5 blades will be about right for 12 volts charging out of it.
@basilkey2949 let me know how it works out!
What size wire for the Turbine?
I ran 12 ga which was bigger than what was coming out of the turbine.
I really want to vuild a turbine with a gear box (belts are better) like the big boys. Low rpm ok, gear box gives you the rpm. Its the large surfflace area thats killing me figuring out.
If you get it to work please keep me updated!
I made one time with 4 foot blades cut 1 foot at the hub and 4 inch at the end. Just 1/2 plywood for a test. No idea what the angle of the blades was. Used 2 bicycle sprockets and the chain on a frame I made. Ran a 90 volt dc motor rated at 5 amps at 90 volts and got the full 5 amps that it was rated . That is 5 amps 12 dc to the battery. Then the thin pole bent and stopped it. Yes gearing will work. But better have a good braking system.
500 watts at 12 volts should be 41.6 Amps so I couldnt tell what the load current was when it hit the brake. But you need a good load that will draw the 41 amps at 12 volts and a gel cell battery just wont do it. Try a rundown car battery or a car battery tester.
I've had this thing running on my system with a 2000 watt inverter. It just doesn't produce. I get what you're saying, you need somewhere for the energy to travel to. I see that with my solar as well. I'm still running this and to date haven't hit 500 watts. It wouldn't even charge my one 100 ah AGM battery. I think I got a bad one.
I haven't even hit 150 watts.
A lot of these cheaper wind turbines are rated in average watts delivered per 24 hours. This is deceptive advertising in my opinion but it is what they do. So your 46 watts was probably the actual output. For a true cost of wind turbines, figure about $3 to $5 per watt for the generator head.
@a-k-jun-1 thank you for that. This is the first I've heard of this. Makes sense.
starting to get close to the nail with this comment.
12 volts, 42A, 500W...
into a 0R286 load.
the gel cel needs 14.4v to start charging.
at 14.4v, 500W is 35A. across 0R414.
now you have an issue of the battery internal resistance being far lower. it tries to pull more current, the voltage sags, the battery is no longer charging or pulling current, the voltage rises, the battery tries drawing current, the voltage sags...
the actual charge rate is dictated by the internal resistance of the batteries, and the ideal load for the generator itself. it will level itself out where the battery will pull the supply down to just enough where it can just absorb a certain current, and no more. and as the wind is all over the place, trying to deal with this fluctuating input power is a nightmare.
if you short the generator, all the power will appear as heat in the windings, and a large current will flow.
if you open circuit it, the voltage rises, and no current flows. no heat is generated anywhere.
and somewhere in between is this ideal load that sags the generator down appropriately, so the voltage and current appears as heat predominately in the LOAD where its wanted.
batteries are a STUPID WAY TO HARNESS WIND POWER. they are not matched to the source, you are throwing away all the milk and keeping the cream.
and a battery also cannot absorb power beyond a certain point. rather than harness the power in wind that increases at the cube of the velocity, we go and apply brakes and throw away the baby with the bathwater. though our generators arent much good at delivering power at a cubic rate, either, they tend to load things down linearly, then plateau... saturated, unable to do any more. so again, we have to apply brakes. friction... make heat... energy conversion... but we just dump it. wasted. loss. "useless".
yet all our coal and nuclear stations simply use heat to boil water?
and as i pointed out, the actual power delivered is also a matter of the load encountered. not just the generator, not just the turbine or wind speed, but the TOTAL SYSTEM matters.
whatever. noone gets it. just strap more batteries on. yay. batteries. inverters. electronics proudly supplied by LG, samsung, and toshiba. support our brands.
Gruß,50W ist nur 10% von 500 W. Bremse geht zu früh ab,denke ich.
The generated watts will not read until you generate wattage and that is volts times amps.
You are correct.
buzzing sound interesting report
I realized the sound quality after I finished the video. Ended up being the 3.5mm jack wasn't seated all the way. I've invested in wireless microphones now, should be an improvement 🤞
yeh theyre garbage from all the videos ive seen was hoping they were good because the price is right. go for a low wind low rpm turbine , hurricane wind power is decent, im in Australia but their turbines are not too bad. big blades equals low wind power. gotta balance your blade and hub assembly as a complete unit for the vibration it'll spin faster too and make more power like any turbine, rpms = power. ive seen those controllers inhibit power output, internal resistance im "guessing" , John Daniels uses them in a different way , he uses two of the three phase wires from the controller to switch a relay instead diverting turbine power to a dumpload. checkout james biggar wind turbine you will learn ALOT. sorry if i seem like a know it all just trying to help you, been there done that if you know what i mean LOL.
Hey, thanks for the comment. I'll definitely check out that channel. I totally appreciate any and all input especially from people like yourself that have experience. I was going to do a follow-up video telling people to save their money. I did it for a test and to add to my channel, I'm thankful that I was ready to be let down (the whole too good to be true thing).
I hooked mine up the way John daniel said to and it works great
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Also the controllers that come with the turbine are junk. Try using a 3 phase ac to DC rectifier fier .I think your controller might be hindering you.
@@johnbutler5208 maybe your turbine is one of the good ones from a good manufacturer , there are tons of manufacturers with identical appearance some are professionally built others are not some meet advertised specifications others dont even come close.
its amazing when you pull them appart the differences can be massive from garbage windings, weak magnets etc , thats my experience, its why i build by own now.
Mine was pretty cheap......
Here is a hint. Before you go and buy one of these things? Look at the weight of the unit. If it doesn't weight at least 25kg? Its NOT worth buying.
Thanks for the info!
Also ich denke dass Sie mit diesen Regler nicht über 50 W kommen,Ab 50 W schaltet sich Bremse ein und Generator ist blokiert.
Ich denke das Generator keine 500 W gibt.Bitte, wenn möglich, messen Sie Widerstand zwischen 2 Phasen(zwischen2 Drähte die aus Generator heraus gehen).Widerstand soll kleiner als 1 Ohm sein,wenn er einige Ohm hat dann ist Generator nicht gut,er nimmt viel Leistung an.Das ist alles Verlustleistung.Je größer der Widerstand kleiner ist Wirkungsgrad.Um Unterschied zu sehen,messen Sie auch zwischen 2 Phasen Widerstand an einem Auto Alternator(Generator).Dann sehen Sie Unterschied. Gruß und schöne Tag noch.
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Part 2?
Guess I should have put part 2 in the title.
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This would be the final part.
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*All practical tests show that small wind turbines hardly generate any electricity! And only at very high costs!*
Because there is hardly any wind close to the ground. It is also extremely gusty, which usually shortens the service life.
Only if you need to be self-sufficient from the power grid, you should buy a small wind turbine for the winter.
*With solar modules, on the other hand, you can reliably generate green electricity for 25 years at approx. 3-10 cent/kWh!*
Known fact that solar panels put out much more power than a turbine motor.
Get yourself a istabreeze i2000 2400 watts of power for like $800
I'll have to look into this. The Vevor was an impulse buy without a lot of research. Might consider something for the springtime. Right now I'm concentrating on storage capacity. That's the most expensive part in my opinion.