And the craziest part is that all the people involved in this mess (Stuarts, Hannoverians and Windsors) are descendants of Margaret Tudor! the OG Matriarch
@@ibqmely Fr. I love how her descendants are the ones who've been dominating monarchies all over europe; while Henry couldn't even keep a marriage together lol
Interestingly, though Henry VIII’s will stated that his throne will pass to descendants of Mary Tudor, Queen of France if his children died without heirs (Queen Elizabeth II’s claim was because she was descended from Henry VIII’s elder sister Margaret), Queen Elizabeth II is in fact descended from Mary Tudor, Queen of France through her mother Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon.
Something to note, Antonia and many of her children and step-children had to endure 7 months or more in Dachau. When she was found, reports said she was so starved and emaciated that she was both unrecognizable and barely alive. And keep in mind, this woman was the sister of a reigning monarch. Although I should note that she didn’t pass away mere months after liberation. She passed away in 1954, predeceasing her husband by one year.
I can’t remember if it was Lindsey or another history TH-camr who did a video I watched previously about them, but if there isn’t already one about them on Lindsey’s channel it would make a good addition. Crazy how that horror is still in living memory. Chilling.
Imagine fighting to prevent a german prince from ascending to the british throne, only to have another german prince to be the current heir by your own rules :D
Keep in mind that the succession would probably not look like what it appears today had the Jacobite revolts been successful because of the fact that marriages during that time were political.
@@ethanjacobrosca7833This. Prince Charlie would have contracted a dynastic marriage, had heirs and the whole line coming from his great-aunt would have been irrelevant. Franz would NOT "be King today."
Thank you. These must take up a large quantity of your time and they are beautifully done. You can feel your passion for history when you talk and it is so refreshing right now to hear someone speak so clearly and with a glow to their words. Thank you again.
It's astonishing how everything either started or ended with Henry VIII. Princess Diana was truly a gift wasn't she. Her marriage to Prince Charles albeit an unhappy one almost seems predestined. Her lineage makes Prince William's claim to the throne stronger than his father's. Thank you for another splendid vid Lindsay.
It really doesn't add any strength, actually. The Spencers have absolutely zero claim to the throne. Inheritance does not pass through illegitimate lines.
I'm a little bewildered and amazed that Jacobites still exist and that people keep up with who would be on the throne. Seems a bit... moot. But, I'm here watching it, so are many others, so I guess I shouldn't be so surprised. Now I'm off to learn more about European Royalty in Dachau.
Hi there. I’d suggest reading up on the history and injustices Scotland has suffered throughout history at the hands of the English. Then I’d recommend building your family tree, say to your 5th or 6th great grandparents. Then realize that one set of your 5th great grandparents were born in Glasgow, and each had 11 siblings. Half of each of their siblings stayed behind in Scotland while the others went to America in search for a better life. So you had at least twelve 5th great uncles and aunts - all of whom likely had between 6 - 14 children. All of those people had children, as did their children, etc. This means you have many cousins in Scotland, probably some in Ireland and England. If you did a test on Ancestry, you could get in touch with some of these people and have them explain the history to you. (There are other services which provide family tree info, I like Ancestry as it has the best record database.) Scots will never forget what the English did.
@@greywater3186 I meant no offense, though I was showing my ignorance of a situation I thought was long in the past. This video and your comment have shown me that the past is closer than I realized. I respect your passion, and understand where it comes from. I am a little bit aware of the injustices Scotland has suffered at the hands of the English, Ireland too, and India, and just about everywhere they colonized and took over. Culloden was genocidal. The English subjugated the Scottish in sneaky, mercilessly cruel and blatant ways. I have no Scottish blood, I have checked. I have a whisper of Irish blood, but am mostly German and English. I don't pretend to know everything, but I am slowly learning as much as I can about the history between the two countries. Thank you for your feedback.
@@annavafeiadou4420 I didn't mean to throw shade on the Jacobites. When I read about Culloden I was rooting for them. What I didn't realize was how deep and passionate the feelings still are among the Scottish people. Now I know.
@@SarahGreen523 Don't worry I am not related to the concept I just admired the fact that they denied nazism in the face of Hitler and send to Dachau and suffered because they despised nazism so I wondered how many of the British royals from those and recent generations would be willing to do that , some might but others sadly I believe they wouldn't.
Well done, Lindsay! You must have one HUGE collection of images, from which to build these documentaries. I very much appreciate seeing several paintings or photos of a person as they get older; many times, only one portrait gets used and it’s easy to forget the teenager grows up to marry, have kids, and grandkids as well. It’s also interesting to note the family resemblances over generations - sometimes obvious, and other times it takes more imagination.
There were hardly any English soldiers fighting for the British army at culloden, most of the army were Scottish, Irish or Welsh. The first battle the jacobite army fought was against fellow highlanders who supported the protestant monarchy, even though these highlanders were loyal to the British crown they were still punished all the same and were forced off their land during the highland clearances. Most scots who were forced to flee travelled to the Americas and founded places like nova Scotia, they also had their language, culture and traditions outlawed in an attempt to 'anglicise' Scotland. Some people call it an attempted genocide and it wasn't untill the Victorian era where there was a Scottish cultural revival and things like kilts and tartan were no longer outlawed. We also have the Victorians who were historical enthusiasts to thank for the cultural revival of Christmas which had almost died out by the turn of the 19th century, Victorians like Charles dickens and john calcott played a huge role in its revival and if it wasn't for the Victorians Scottish culture and Christmas would all but certainly have died out.
@The Frying Scotsman So the traders to Scottish sovereignty got what they deserved. But, the world could totally do without bullshit pagan consumerist Xmas the celebration of the birth of Tammuz.
GOT THAT RIGHT, The Royal Scots, The Campbell Millitia(later the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders) The North British (Ayrshire no Lovers of Jacobites Scottish or English),The Glasgow Millita, The Campbell Millita fired on the Princes Army by volley as they crashed into Barrells and broke their allmost successfull charge. There were as many Scots fighting against Charlie as with him. In fact the Scots troops from the 'lallans' carried out the atrocities with gusto and full approval of their Scots officers. English regular officers often intervening to stop them. English Yoemanry units(volounteers), were apparently as enthusiastic for blood as some of the Scottish troops.
@@iamjustsaying4787 The jacobites weren't fighting for Scottish sovereignty they were fighting to put a stewart (Catholic) monarch back on the throne of Britian and I fail to see how anybody got what they deserved
The Goverment troops were predominantly three quarters English regiments and battalions. The rest were made up of Scots Irish,Austrians,Dutch and Germans. Wiki the regiments who fought at Culloden.
Jacobites: George I and his heirs are all Germans, they cannot rule Great Britain! Other people: Then who should rule Great Britain? Jacobites: Franz, the Duke of Bavaria
And Flora McDonald married Alan McDonald, who served in the British Army as an officer in both a Highland regiment and a Scottish Line Regiment during the 7 Years War. They emigrated to North Carolina and raised troops to support the Crown during the Revolution. Having been evicted by the rebels and robbed of their possessions, they returned to Scotland after the war.
This has been one of my favorite videos! Your time, effort, and research in this very interesting topic is much appreciated. I would love for you to do a video on the Pretender lines of the French throne. It is my understanding there are 3 lines(maybe more) who claim the pretender title to France, the Bourbons (Louis Alphonse, Duke of Anjou,) the Orleans (Henri, Count of Paris,) and the Bonapartes, (Jean-Christophe, Prince Napoleon).
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I'll never understand why some people say history is boring, like... There's a reason why so many works of fiction take inspiration from real royal history 🤣
Claire in Outlander explains the Jacobite Uprising would fail. The Highlanders tended support Prince Charles because they had not benefitted from the Union of Scotland in the same way the Lowlanders had benefitted. Although the Highlanders tended to be Catholic, the Jacobite Uprising cannot be reduced to an attempt to place a Catholic on the English throne. Many Catholics and people from Scotland supported the Hanover dynasty. Badly led and poorly financed the rebels had little chance of victory against the more numerous and better equipped. Williiam, the Duke of Cumberland took a vicious revenge against the rebels. To keep Scotland subjugated, the British confiscated land, executed and imprisoned Jacobites, prohibited the Scots from owning weapons, prevented the wearing of tartan and kilts, banned the playing of the bagpipes and destroyed the clan system. Plunged into poverty, many Scots emigrated to America, New Zealand, and Australia. Ironically, many Scots entered the British Army in order to secure financial security. Outlander fairly resents the Jacobite Uprising and its consequences. It accurately portrays Prince Charles as a stubborn and foolish young man.
Very Entertaining ! But like 'Braveheart'jam packed with Historical inaccuracies unfortunately, especially as far as the Redcoats(Government Army) are concerned. Many of them were Scots or Irish even Welsh,many English Regiments were in Flanders alongside The Prussians fighting the French.
@@philiprufus4427 It's been a while since I watched Outlander, but I'm 90% sure they did mention and show Redcoat Scots, at the very least. Perhaps not as many as there were in actuality? But hey, it didn't do too bad for historical fiction from what I've seen, compared to some others. I mean, it is about a woman time traveling anyway, lol. I try to view that sort of thing as an "alternate universe" anyway.
That was really good. One point: The Hannoverian dynasty actually has Stuart blood. Sophia of Hannover (mother of George I of Great Britain) was the daughter of Elisabeth Stuart and Friedrich V of the Pfalz (seat in Heidelberg). Elisabeth Stuart was a daughter of James I of England / James VI of Scotland. So there is still some Jacobean blood on the GB throne.
Love your videos, but I just want to note that the fall of the Commonwealth of England really wasn’t because “the people were happier under a monarch.” It’s collapse had more to do with Cromwell’s death and the implosion of its power structure.
That was one of the most comprehensive and interesting narratives of the Jacobite period, it’s predecessors and the plot twist in the end!! Very commendable! Much appreciated.
Well, they do say it's a small world at the top! As always, thank you for the fascinating tea time historical reading. I love your voice. Easy to listen to without being soporific. I'd like a teapot added to the selection of purchases. I collect teapots and would love to add another.
Thanks so much for this video! I’m american but I’ve always been fascinated by Scottish history. I have a big fat book about the Jacobite Uprisings that I’ll be starting soon!
Brilliantly dizzying! I thought it a waste of time to carry on the Jacobite claim, but then it all connects at Sandhurst which is fascinating! Well done.
My great grandmother was of Scottish descent. She still referred to him as “The Bonny Prince.” He was a scoundrel, but represented heritage, freedom and resistance.
Laura ingalls ancestor according to her great grandmother Martha's books fought in the Jacobite succession. Martha's grandfather died fighting for the succession
You have to wonder what HMTQ and Prince Philip were thinking when they named their first-born son Charles considering he was in the direct line of succession and the negative history associated with the name of Charles for past kings of England.
He's likely not use the name Charles as king, from what I've read he will likely use the same regnal name as his grandfather. A more interesting speculation is how long William would have to wait to become king, if Charles lives as long or even longer than his mom 🤔
@@Ammeeeeeeer Well, Edward isn't that great of a name either, but I guess they didn't get assassinated or whatever. William will probably be King longer than his father. I don't think he'll have to wait as long as Charles did.
Very interesting and thoroughly researched - you keep referring to the Jacobites who promote this alternate line of succession, but are there any actual active Jacobites still out there? It's hard to believe that anyone takes this claim seriously nowadays...
@@sharonkaczorowski8690 the jacobites never fought to disassemble the union mate. there was a huge contingent of english jacobites too, from places like manchester and northumberland, so they were hardly fighting for an independent scotland were they
I love history and the Monarchs are more fascinating than anything in the world for the drama just keeps on going but it does intrigue all of us I might say. I enjoy watching your videos but at times I get overwhelmed of who belongs to whom and so on but over all I love it. Thank you. God bless. Stay safe 😷
Ugh love the level of detail Lindsay!! Such a great video and so interesting I’ve never really read into the Jacobite succession, so this was a fresh fresh and not over down topic to do a video on!
Clearly you don’t know the history as some was incorrect. It was Flora MacDonald that helped him flee. MacDonald was visiting Benbecula in the Outer Hebrides when Prince Charles and a small group of aides took refuge there after the Battle of Culloden in June 1746. One of his companions, Captain Conn O'Neill from County Antrim, was distantly related to MacDonald and asked for her help. MacDonald of Sleat had not joined the Rebellion and Benbecula was controlled by a pro-government militia commanded by MacDonald's step-father, Hugh MacDonald. This connection allowed her to obtain the necessary permits but she apparently hesitated, fearing the consequences for her family if they were caught. She may have been taking less of a risk than it appears; witnesses later claimed Hugh advised the Prince where to hide from his search parties. Passes were issued allowing passage to the mainland for MacDonald, a boat's crew of six men and two personal servants, including Charles disguised as an Irish maid called Betty Burke. On 27 June, they landed near Sir Alexander's house at Monkstadt, near Kilbride, Skye. In his absence, his wife Lady Margaret arranged lodging with her steward, MacDonald of Kingsburgh, who told Charles to remove his disguise, as it simply made him more conspicuous. The next day, Charles was taken from Portree to the island of Raasay; MacDonald remained on Skye and they never met again. Please tell the true story! Some of the pictures you used had nothing to do with the Jacobites either but of the Highland clearances. After the defeat of the Prince's rebellion at Culloden in April 1746, Charles fled Scotland for France. In 1752, he heard that Clementina, whom we had already met with her uncle, was at Dunkirk and in some financial difficulties, so he sent 50 louis d'ors to help her and then dispatched Sir Henry Goring to entreat her to come to Ghent and live with him as his mistress. So NO she didn’t help him flee.
Your voice is so soothing, i find myself falling asleep halfway through the video. Which is a good thing, because it will take a week to see the video through watching a new bit every night before falling asleep. More views and more ads for you 😂
It’s like watching a drama in which in the end the twisted scenario would be the Jacobites who disagree with the Parliament to select Sophia of Hanover (a Wittlesbach descendant) in future end up having the House of Wittelsbach as their current heir and conversely, the current British heir is actually descended from the original Stuart line of both Charles II and James II.
Very good, interesting video. It is interesting to follow these people through history, but if this son of James II would have somehow legally succeeded his father as James III, few if any of these people would have actually ascended the British throne. Marriages were arranged for political advantage, and variations from the Jacobite marriages that occurred in real time would have begun during the next few generations. The Jacobite descendants living today probably would not even exist.
Useful Charts said if Scotland were to go independent from the UK, it could choose the Jacobite succession. TBH I highly doubt that will ever happen, as Monarchies are slowly dying
If Scotland chooses to be an independent country again, they could also still have a constitutional monarchy with the Windsors providing the Head of State. Canada & Australia are also independent constitutional monarchies whose Head of State curiously, looks a lot like Queen Elizabeth II😉😉
@@therocknrollgamer9572 I don't believe it will either, even Australia looks to be a republic. My point is that keeping the Windsors is waaaay more likely than installing a Stuart heir from Lichtenstein.
@@therocknrollgamer9572 Sorry, I reread my initial comment and realized that I failed to indicate my main point almost as if I expected you to telepathically know my intent.
3:23. There are many paintings of monarchs that I love, all for different reasons. However, this portrait of Charles II must rank in my top 10 all-time favourites. Every inch of that painting screams royalty and entitlement. It oozes with symbolism. Now that the king was back, they need to make him look as impressive and kingly as possible, with numerous objects of royal regalia, which needed to re-establish itself with confident authority. Charles looks entitled, almost haughty. John Michael Wright achieved that to perfection in this masterpiece, and I rate him in the same league as Holbein, as their paintings "feel" similar, in style and execution. The thing I find particularly interesting is the dominant colour is red. The colour could also represent blood. In particular, a bloodline, which needed to be stressed considering it was the restoration of a bloodline. I believe one aspect I've noticed is quite poignant, perhaps overlooked. It's amazing how intricately subliminal art can be, especially in those days. We say a picture is worth 1000 words. Back then, a single painting was worth a 1,000,000 if it wanted to be. This image is a perfect example. Ultimately, the message is conveyed both blatantly, yet covertly. Finally, you mentioned James' orchard which exists to this day in Buckingham Palace Gardens. I love the story connected to that. James planted the orchard in order to make silk, which would have been a nice little earner for him, considering the Chinese basically corned the market, back to Roman times. Unfortunately, for James, the silkworms didn't agree and produced nothing. They considered all sorts as the reason why it wasn't successful. Eventually, they found out why. Wrong tree for the type of silkworm he had acquired. I think that's hilarious. James has always come across as a pompous idiot. 🤣🤣
King Joseph is also related to Queen Elizabeth as they both can relate back to fulk of Jerusalem as his two children: Sybilla who's descendants led on to be the king Joseph and Geoffrey plantagenet who married matilda of England and had Henry II
I find it a bit extreme to perform treason and conspire with a foreign power just because of the birth of a Catholic heir. But the parliamentarians had probably not changed much from they who chopped of the King's head over taxes.
There is still a member of the Stuart family who is in the line of succession to the British crown, The Duke of Gordon. There is also a descendant of John of Gaunt in the line of succession, The Duke of Beaufort.
Charles Lennox, the Duke of Richmond, wasn't truly a Stuart. Bastards do not belong to the houses of their fathers, at least not unless they are legitimated. This is why King Charles II gave him the surname "Lennox", because otherwise he wouldn't have had one. "Stuart" didn't legally belong to him.
To be in the line of succession to the British throne you must be a non roman Catholic descendant of George I's mother I'm not sure if the 2 Dukes you mention qualify
@ I may have missed read some of the information that I was reading, what I know about the Duke of Gordon is that he is a Protestant descendent of King Charles ii.
@@annemadison7258 yes the Duke of Richmond, Gordon and Lennox is a descendant of Charles II but from one of his many illegitimate sons which gives him no rights to the succession of the Crown
The plot twist in the end was 🤯🤯🤯, a descendant of the Stewarts/Stuarts will be king after all.
And the craziest part is that all the people involved in this mess (Stuarts, Hannoverians and Windsors) are descendants of Margaret Tudor! the OG Matriarch
@@ibqmely Fr. I love how her descendants are the ones who've been dominating monarchies all over europe; while Henry couldn't even keep a marriage together lol
@@Middyrose Henry wasn't really nice with her, but in the end she had the last laugh 👸💪🏻
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who had their mind blown by that plot twist🤯
Interestingly, though Henry VIII’s will stated that his throne will pass to descendants of Mary Tudor, Queen of France if his children died without heirs (Queen Elizabeth II’s claim was because she was descended from Henry VIII’s elder sister Margaret), Queen Elizabeth II is in fact descended from Mary Tudor, Queen of France through her mother Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon.
Something to note, Antonia and many of her children and step-children had to endure 7 months or more in Dachau. When she was found, reports said she was so starved and emaciated that she was both unrecognizable and barely alive.
And keep in mind, this woman was the sister of a reigning monarch.
Although I should note that she didn’t pass away mere months after liberation. She passed away in 1954, predeceasing her husband by one year.
I can’t remember if it was Lindsey or another history TH-camr who did a video I watched previously about them, but if there isn’t already one about them on Lindsey’s channel it would make a good addition.
Crazy how that horror is still in living memory. Chilling.
7 months in a hell on Earth is not short
U make "7 months" not sound like hell(given her location, IT WAS)
Imagine fighting to prevent a german prince from ascending to the british throne, only to have another german prince to be the current heir by your own rules :D
Ironic.
Keep in mind that the succession would probably not look like what it appears today had the Jacobite revolts been successful because of the fact that marriages during that time were political.
@@ethanjacobrosca7833This. Prince Charlie would have contracted a dynastic marriage, had heirs and the whole line coming from his great-aunt would have been irrelevant. Franz would NOT "be King today."
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Imagine fighting to keep any monarchy in power..... utterly embarrassing. Couldn't be me...🤷♂️
Thank you. These must take up a large quantity of your time and they are beautifully done. You can feel your passion for history when you talk and it is so refreshing right now to hear someone speak so clearly and with a glow to their words. Thank you again.
She didn’t do her research well as she got things incorrect! Major things incorrect.
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@@jnicholas-windsoramyisrael46 Ugh. Always someone leaving a comment like yours. Go away lol.
@@Leno323 The Help telling the Master to go away. If you don’t like people pointing out misinformation then stay off the internet.
@@jnicholas-windsoramyisrael46 Master of delusions maybe. “The help” lol. Get the FOH calling people the help. Your mom must be sooo proud.
It's astonishing how everything either started or ended with Henry VIII. Princess Diana was truly a gift wasn't she. Her marriage to Prince Charles albeit an unhappy one almost seems predestined. Her lineage makes Prince William's claim to the throne stronger than his father's. Thank you for another splendid vid Lindsay.
You're right, his reign was truly a pivotal point
It really doesn't add any strength, actually. The Spencers have absolutely zero claim to the throne. Inheritance does not pass through illegitimate lines.
Dianas calims are only illegitimate claims
I'm a little bewildered and amazed that Jacobites still exist and that people keep up with who would be on the throne. Seems a bit... moot. But, I'm here watching it, so are many others, so I guess I shouldn't be so surprised. Now I'm off to learn more about European Royalty in Dachau.
Hi there. I’d suggest reading up on the history and injustices Scotland has suffered throughout history at the hands of the English.
Then I’d recommend building your family tree, say to your 5th or 6th great grandparents. Then realize that one set of your 5th great grandparents were born in Glasgow, and each had 11 siblings. Half of each of their siblings stayed behind in Scotland while the others went to America in search for a better life.
So you had at least twelve 5th great uncles and aunts - all of whom likely had between 6 - 14 children. All of those people had children, as did their children, etc.
This means you have many cousins in Scotland, probably some in Ireland and England.
If you did a test on Ancestry, you could get in touch with some of these people and have them explain the history to you. (There are other services which provide family tree info, I like Ancestry as it has the best record database.)
Scots will never forget what the English did.
At least those Jacobites where adamantly anti-nazi and opposing nazi forces something that cannot be said for the entirety of current British royals
@@greywater3186 I meant no offense, though I was showing my ignorance of a situation I thought was long in the past. This video and your comment have shown me that the past is closer than I realized. I respect your passion, and understand where it comes from.
I am a little bit aware of the injustices Scotland has suffered at the hands of the English, Ireland too, and India, and just about everywhere they colonized and took over. Culloden was genocidal. The English subjugated the Scottish in sneaky, mercilessly cruel and blatant ways. I have no Scottish blood, I have checked. I have a whisper of Irish blood, but am mostly German and English.
I don't pretend to know everything, but I am slowly learning as much as I can about the history between the two countries.
Thank you for your feedback.
@@annavafeiadou4420 I didn't mean to throw shade on the Jacobites. When I read about Culloden I was rooting for them. What I didn't realize was how deep and passionate the feelings still are among the Scottish people. Now I know.
@@SarahGreen523 Don't worry I am not related to the concept I just admired the fact that they denied nazism in the face of Hitler and send to Dachau and suffered because they despised nazism so I wondered how many of the British royals from those and recent generations would be willing to do that , some might but others sadly I believe they wouldn't.
Loved the plot twist at the end! Thank you for all this effort that goes into the research and presentation :)!
Well done, Lindsay! You must have one HUGE collection of images, from which to build these documentaries. I very much appreciate seeing several paintings or photos of a person as they get older; many times, only one portrait gets used and it’s easy to forget the teenager grows up to marry, have kids, and grandkids as well. It’s also interesting to note the family resemblances over generations - sometimes obvious, and other times it takes more imagination.
There were hardly any English soldiers fighting for the British army at culloden, most of the army were Scottish, Irish or Welsh. The first battle the jacobite army fought was against fellow highlanders who supported the protestant monarchy, even though these highlanders were loyal to the British crown they were still punished all the same and were forced off their land during the highland clearances. Most scots who were forced to flee travelled to the Americas and founded places like nova Scotia, they also had their language, culture and traditions outlawed in an attempt to 'anglicise' Scotland. Some people call it an attempted genocide and it wasn't untill the Victorian era where there was a Scottish cultural revival and things like kilts and tartan were no longer outlawed. We also have the Victorians who were historical enthusiasts to thank for the cultural revival of Christmas which had almost died out by the turn of the 19th century, Victorians like Charles dickens and john calcott played a huge role in its revival and if it wasn't for the Victorians Scottish culture and Christmas would all but certainly have died out.
@The Frying Scotsman So the traders to Scottish sovereignty got what they deserved. But, the world could totally do without bullshit pagan consumerist Xmas the celebration of the birth of Tammuz.
@@iamjustsaying4787 You need your hole mate
GOT THAT RIGHT, The Royal Scots, The Campbell Millitia(later the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders) The North British (Ayrshire no Lovers of Jacobites Scottish or English),The Glasgow Millita, The Campbell Millita fired on the Princes Army by volley as they crashed into Barrells and broke their allmost successfull charge. There were as many Scots fighting against Charlie as with him. In fact the Scots troops from the 'lallans' carried out the atrocities with gusto and full approval of their Scots officers. English regular officers often intervening to stop them. English Yoemanry units(volounteers), were apparently as enthusiastic for blood as some of the Scottish troops.
@@iamjustsaying4787 The jacobites weren't fighting for Scottish sovereignty they were fighting to put a stewart (Catholic) monarch back on the throne of Britian and I fail to see how anybody got what they deserved
The Goverment troops were predominantly three quarters English regiments and battalions. The rest were made up of Scots Irish,Austrians,Dutch and Germans.
Wiki the regiments who fought at Culloden.
A good topic. Honestly, these videos are absolutely wonderful.
I’m 11 years old, and I love history, especially you channel 😊
Good on you!
I found this really fascinating, particularly the surprise at the end.
England: We can't be ruled by a German who doesn't even speak the language!
Scotland: Well....we got this Catholic kid.
England: We're good.
Jacobites: George I and his heirs are all Germans, they cannot rule Great Britain!
Other people: Then who should rule Great Britain?
Jacobites: Franz, the Duke of Bavaria
@@franzherzogvonreichstadt 😆
England: Our standards are bad but not THAT BAD no Catholics!
Scotland: >:CC
@@agatha6999 🙂
Jacobites: Hey, don't forget, our guy's English is pretty bad, too. Non e giusto, Carlo? "Si, certo!"
Whigs: Intriguing, but f*ck him anyway.
For Outlander fans, "The Skye Boat Song" used for the titles is about Bonnie Prince Charles' escape 10:50
Yes! Isn’t “the Bonnie banks of Loch Lomond” about the battle of culloden as well?
And Flora McDonald married Alan McDonald, who served in the British Army as an officer in both a Highland regiment and a Scottish Line Regiment during the 7 Years War.
They emigrated to North Carolina and raised troops to support the Crown during the Revolution.
Having been evicted by the rebels and robbed of their possessions, they returned to Scotland after the war.
This has been one of my favorite videos! Your time, effort, and research in this very interesting topic is much appreciated. I would love for you to do a video on the Pretender lines of the French throne. It is my understanding there are 3 lines(maybe more) who claim the pretender title to France, the Bourbons (Louis Alphonse, Duke of Anjou,) the Orleans (Henri, Count of Paris,) and the Bonapartes, (Jean-Christophe, Prince Napoleon).
She has already done a video on this topic
@@arhamjain5910 I cannot seem to find it. Do you remember the title of the video?Thanks.
Who would be the king of France Today
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This filled in many gaps in my understanding of the Jacobite struggle. Thank you!
That was so intense, the twists and turns could make an interesting show through generation.
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They should make a show about this, like the Tudors
I'll never understand why some people say history is boring, like... There's a reason why so many works of fiction take inspiration from real royal history 🤣
Lol I looved outlander!! And I think the Jacobite history is intriguing. Leads to the question what would have happened if.....?
Claire in Outlander explains the Jacobite Uprising would fail. The Highlanders tended support Prince Charles because they had not benefitted from the Union of Scotland in the same way the Lowlanders had benefitted. Although the Highlanders tended to be Catholic, the Jacobite Uprising cannot be reduced to an attempt to place a Catholic on the English throne. Many Catholics and people from Scotland supported the Hanover dynasty. Badly led and poorly financed the rebels had little chance of victory against the more numerous and better equipped. Williiam, the Duke of Cumberland took a vicious revenge against the rebels. To keep Scotland subjugated, the British confiscated land, executed and imprisoned Jacobites, prohibited the Scots from owning weapons, prevented the wearing of tartan and kilts, banned the playing of the bagpipes and destroyed the clan system. Plunged into poverty, many Scots emigrated to America, New Zealand, and Australia. Ironically, many Scots entered the British Army in order to secure financial security. Outlander fairly resents the Jacobite Uprising and its consequences. It accurately portrays Prince Charles as a stubborn and foolish young man.
@@Orphen42O Your second to last sentence….I think you mean ‘represents’. Outlander certainly did.
Very Entertaining ! But like 'Braveheart'jam packed with Historical inaccuracies unfortunately, especially as far as the Redcoats(Government Army) are concerned. Many of them were Scots or Irish even Welsh,many English Regiments were in Flanders alongside The Prussians fighting the French.
@@philiprufus4427 It's been a while since I watched Outlander, but I'm 90% sure they did mention and show Redcoat Scots, at the very least. Perhaps not as many as there were in actuality? But hey, it didn't do too bad for historical fiction from what I've seen, compared to some others. I mean, it is about a woman time traveling anyway, lol. I try to view that sort of thing as an "alternate universe" anyway.
That was really good. One point: The Hannoverian dynasty actually has Stuart blood. Sophia of Hannover (mother of George I of Great Britain) was the daughter of Elisabeth Stuart and Friedrich V of the Pfalz (seat in Heidelberg). Elisabeth Stuart was a daughter of James I of England / James VI of Scotland. So there is still some Jacobean blood on the GB throne.
Love your videos, but I just want to note that the fall of the Commonwealth of England really wasn’t because “the people were happier under a monarch.” It’s collapse had more to do with Cromwell’s death and the implosion of its power structure.
Ikr... Protestants are the loveliest people in the world!! ;V
This was an awesome historic video which might end the undercurrent of animosity between the both sets of desendents! Thank you! 😊
Another incredible video! This one looked like it took a particularly long time to research. Interesting to see an alternative succession.
Thank you for this one! I’ve been curious since I just started watching the show Outlander!
Wowza! What an incredibly informative video, I felt like soooo many plot holes and timelines were just cleared up for me. Thank you!
But they weren’t.
I never expected to see James Alexander Malcolm Mackenzie Fraser in one of these videos, but here we are 😂
That was one of the most comprehensive and interesting narratives of the Jacobite period, it’s predecessors and the plot twist in the end!! Very commendable! Much appreciated.
Love your videos, you are such a role model to me!!! Could you please do a video about the mono Lisa and about her life and the painter! Xx
One of my favorite royal succession pieces so far. Very intriguing!😊
William as the link is an amazing turn of events. As an Outlander Fan I enjoyed your history.
Thank you for doing this video ever since I started watching Outlander have wanted to know more about the Jacobites.
Well, they do say it's a small world at the top! As always, thank you for the fascinating tea time historical reading. I love your voice. Easy to listen to without being soporific. I'd like a teapot added to the selection of purchases. I collect teapots and would love to add another.
Thanks so much for this video! I’m american but I’ve always been fascinated by Scottish history. I have a big fat book about the Jacobite Uprisings that I’ll be starting soon!
Brilliantly dizzying! I thought it a waste of time to carry on the Jacobite claim, but then it all connects at Sandhurst which is fascinating! Well done.
My great grandmother was of Scottish descent. She still referred to him as “The Bonny Prince.” He was a scoundrel, but represented heritage, freedom and resistance.
Hi 👋 Sharon, how are you doing?
Mine referred to him like that.
Freedom and resistance from whom ?
@@johnbaird4912 The British of course. Who else could it be.
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Why would he need freedom the British
When he wanted throne of England and Scotland for his family
I appreciate your explanation on this subject!
Always wonderful videos, gotta say love that ending note!
Laura ingalls ancestor according to her great grandmother Martha's books fought in the Jacobite succession. Martha's grandfather died fighting for the succession
Just wondering were they Scottish because the ingalls came England
@@johnbaird4912 I'm not sure about ingalls side but Caroline's side came from Scotland
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That’s ok 😁thank you for the information
You have to wonder what HMTQ and Prince Philip were thinking when they named their first-born son Charles considering he was in the direct line of succession and the negative history associated with the name of Charles for past kings of England.
He's likely not use the name Charles as king, from what I've read he will likely use the same regnal name as his grandfather. A more interesting speculation is how long William would have to wait to become king, if Charles lives as long or even longer than his mom 🤔
Yes, and interesting and significant that the name James has never reappeared, though it is such a popular name at all levels of society.
@@Ammeeeeeeer Well, Edward isn't that great of a name either, but I guess they didn't get assassinated or whatever.
William will probably be King longer than his father. I don't think he'll have to wait as long as Charles did.
It's possible that Charles was named after his godfather King Haakon of Norway whose actual name was Charles or Carl
@@mmhthree His grandfather was King George VI not Edward
My children are descendants of Clan Graham. Their family was part of the highland clearance. This video is phenomenal.
Very interesting and thoroughly researched - you keep referring to the Jacobites who promote this alternate line of succession, but are there any actual active Jacobites still out there? It's hard to believe that anyone takes this claim seriously nowadays...
What you are actually asking is are there Scots who still resent being part of Great Britain? Yes, there are.
@@sharonkaczorowski8690 the jacobites never fought to disassemble the union mate. there was a huge contingent of english jacobites too, from places like manchester and northumberland, so they were hardly fighting for an independent scotland were they
@@barnsleyman32 if you’re an actual Scot, Sharon has a point.
Most Scots are Jacobites at heart.
@@charmainelamont2020 true, lol.
Amazing video as always! You always know how to keep a smile on my face and I thank you for that!
I love history and the Monarchs are more fascinating than anything in the world for the drama just keeps on going but it does intrigue all of us I might say. I enjoy watching your videos but at times I get overwhelmed of who belongs to whom and so on but over all I love it. Thank you. God bless. Stay safe 😷
Hello there Rose nice meeting you here
Ugh love the level of detail Lindsay!! Such a great video and so interesting I’ve never really read into the Jacobite succession, so this was a fresh fresh and not over down topic to do a video on!
What a treat .right in time for season 6 of outlander
Wow!
The research was amazing.
I do like the fact that Prince William is a Jacobite defendant.
This was a whooper of an episode 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Could we have a video on "remember remember the fifth of November"? And maybe it could be a series on those kind of "date celebrations"?
James I & VI was a great-grandson of Margaret Tudor, not her grandson - Mary, Queen of Scots was Margaret's grandchild. Otherwise, great video!!
So true
This is brilliant. Thank you, Lindsay!
Fun fact! I am from the Clan Stewart and couple of others and know this history well!! Great job!!
Clearly you don’t know the history as some was incorrect. It was Flora MacDonald that helped him flee.
MacDonald was visiting Benbecula in the Outer Hebrides when Prince Charles and a small group of aides took refuge there after the Battle of Culloden in June 1746. One of his companions, Captain Conn O'Neill from County Antrim, was distantly related to MacDonald and asked for her help. MacDonald of Sleat had not joined the Rebellion and Benbecula was controlled by a pro-government militia commanded by MacDonald's step-father, Hugh MacDonald. This connection allowed her to obtain the necessary permits but she apparently hesitated, fearing the consequences for her family if they were caught. She may have been taking less of a risk than it appears; witnesses later claimed Hugh advised the Prince where to hide from his search parties.
Passes were issued allowing passage to the mainland for MacDonald, a boat's crew of six men and two personal servants, including Charles disguised as an Irish maid called Betty Burke. On 27 June, they landed near Sir Alexander's house at Monkstadt, near Kilbride, Skye. In his absence, his wife Lady Margaret arranged lodging with her steward, MacDonald of Kingsburgh, who told Charles to remove his disguise, as it simply made him more conspicuous. The next day, Charles was taken from Portree to the island of Raasay; MacDonald remained on Skye and they never met again. Please tell the true story! Some of the pictures you used had nothing to do with the Jacobites either but of the Highland clearances.
After the defeat of the Prince's rebellion at Culloden in April 1746, Charles fled Scotland for France. In 1752, he heard that Clementina, whom we had already met with her uncle, was at Dunkirk and in some financial difficulties, so he sent 50 louis d'ors to help her and then dispatched Sir Henry Goring to entreat her to come to Ghent and live with him as his mistress. So NO she didn’t help him flee.
I'm a Fraser i agree it was Flora who aided the Bonn y Prince to escape.
Some of my ancestors died for the Jacobites and got yeeted to North America from the Highlands.
Wow thanks I always wanted to learn more on this topic thanks Lindsay ❤
P.S can you plz do a Queen Alexandra vid🙏
Many, many thanks for this so much informative video! I really enjoyed watching it❤️
wow you are amazing. You are soooo great at what you do. Please keep up the good work.
So well researched! Outstanding.
Excellent research. Congratulations.
This was greatly entertaining and perfectly laid out. Kudos!
The Blackfyre's in GRR Martin's ASOIAF sounds like it might have been loosely based on the Jacobites
This was such a fun video! Fantastic work 👍👍👍
So Interesting love your channel thank you for all your work
Your voice is so soothing, i find myself falling asleep halfway through the video. Which is a good thing, because it will take a week to see the video through watching a new bit every night before falling asleep. More views and more ads for you 😂
Hello there Margaret nice meeting you here
Wonderful summary, painstakingly researched and well presented.
Lindsay:postes
Me:watching it over and over again
The ending part is mind-blowing!
Phenomenal narration!! Thank you!
Thanks!
Congratulations! That was a serious look at history, I’m very impressed thank you
It’s like watching a drama in which in the end the twisted scenario would be the Jacobites who disagree with the Parliament to select Sophia of Hanover (a Wittlesbach descendant) in future end up having the House of Wittelsbach as their current heir and conversely, the current British heir is actually descended from the original Stuart line of both Charles II and James II.
I should probably slow it down to understand all the intricacies but what an amazing distillation of a complicated family dynasty. Kudos!
I was literally on my way to watch Outlander when i got this notif
Hello there Karolina nice meeting you here
Very interesting, love watching Outlander as well.
20:29 Ludwig III died in 1921.
Ludwig III was also the most senior at that time using absolute primogeniture from Charles I.
Very good, interesting video. It is interesting to follow these people through history, but if this son of James II would have somehow legally succeeded his father as James III, few if any of these people would have actually ascended the British throne. Marriages were arranged for political advantage, and variations from the Jacobite marriages that occurred in real time would have begun during the next few generations. The Jacobite descendants living today probably would not even exist.
Love this channel, the plot twist at the end with Princess Diana was awesome.
Mind. Blown.
I've never learned so much in 30 mins. Thanks Lindsay, you're really such a gifted story teller.
Absolutely loving your channel! Such a great way to spend my lunch break. Thanks for making these insightful videos.
Useful Charts said if Scotland were to go independent from the UK, it could choose the Jacobite succession. TBH I highly doubt that will ever happen, as Monarchies are slowly dying
If Scotland chooses to be an independent country again, they could also still have a constitutional monarchy with the Windsors providing the Head of State. Canada & Australia are also independent constitutional monarchies whose Head of State curiously, looks a lot like Queen Elizabeth II😉😉
@@mcruz2357 I highly doubt that will hapepen
@@therocknrollgamer9572 I don't believe it will either, even Australia looks to be a republic. My point is that keeping the Windsors is waaaay more likely than installing a Stuart heir from Lichtenstein.
@@mcruz2357 Without their monarchies; germany, Austria, and France isn't worth nothing.
@@therocknrollgamer9572 Sorry, I reread my initial comment and realized that I failed to indicate my main point almost as if I expected you to telepathically know my intent.
Awesome video, great work as always
Jacobites: We don’t need a German Prince Elector sitting here!!!!
Five Generations later……..
Jacobite heirs: Hallo Guten Morgen
I’d like to hear more about Maria Theresa and Ludwig III of Bavaria. Has Lindsey already done a video on them?
Hello there Lilliana nice meeting you here
I'm not sure if she made a video about Ludwig III of Bavaria, but she has made a video about Maria Theresa!
Small mistake near the end. Ludwig III died in 1921, not 1919
3:23. There are many paintings of monarchs that I love, all for different reasons. However, this portrait of Charles II must rank in my top 10 all-time favourites. Every inch of that painting screams royalty and entitlement. It oozes with symbolism.
Now that the king was back, they need to make him look as impressive and kingly as possible, with numerous objects of royal regalia, which needed to re-establish itself with confident authority. Charles looks entitled, almost haughty. John Michael Wright achieved that to perfection in this masterpiece, and I rate him in the same league as Holbein, as their paintings "feel" similar, in style and execution.
The thing I find particularly interesting is the dominant colour is red. The colour could also represent blood. In particular, a bloodline, which needed to be stressed considering it was the restoration of a bloodline.
I believe one aspect I've noticed is quite poignant, perhaps overlooked. It's amazing how intricately subliminal art can be, especially in those days. We say a picture is worth 1000 words. Back then, a single painting was worth a 1,000,000 if it wanted to be. This image is a perfect example. Ultimately, the message is conveyed both blatantly, yet covertly.
Finally, you mentioned James' orchard which exists to this day in Buckingham Palace Gardens. I love the story connected to that. James planted the orchard in order to make silk, which would have been a nice little earner for him, considering the Chinese basically corned the market, back to Roman times. Unfortunately, for James, the silkworms didn't agree and produced nothing. They considered all sorts as the reason why it wasn't successful.
Eventually, they found out why. Wrong tree for the type of silkworm he had acquired. I think that's hilarious. James has always come across as a pompous idiot. 🤣🤣
She married her Uncle. I see that the Habsburgs are still at keeping it in the family. Yuck.
Brilliant research and presentation!
I had accidentally turned off notification of this channel & almost forgot about it until today. Also changed it back to 'all'!
King Joseph is also related to Queen Elizabeth as they both can relate back to fulk of Jerusalem as his two children: Sybilla who's descendants led on to be the king Joseph and Geoffrey plantagenet who married matilda of England and had Henry II
Very well done. Thank you! I learned something new today!
This comes at the perfect time 'cuz my mom just forced me into liking Outlander
That was a nice surprise at the end!!
Hello there Sarah nice meeting you here
I am from Clan Keith, very cool to see something my ancestors were involved in.
You did a great job with this.
I was not ready for that twist in ending
I spent the whole video waiting for the jacobites to link back and I was not disappointed 😂
I never heard of this. This is interesting to learn
Thanks 4 this. Piece of the puzzle
I love that there are no ads!!!
Thank you for doing a video on the Jacobites.
I have a keen interest to this, thank you Lindsay
The supporters of Bonny Prince Charlie were the Catholic Clans of Scotland, the lowland Scots and Clan Campbell fought with the Hanoverians.
I find it a bit extreme to perform treason and conspire with a foreign power just because of the birth of a Catholic heir. But the parliamentarians had probably not changed much from they who chopped of the King's head over taxes.
The causes of the Civil War were a lot more complicated than just taxes
There is still a member of the Stuart family who is in the line of succession to the British crown, The Duke of Gordon. There is also a descendant of John of Gaunt in the line of succession, The Duke of Beaufort.
Charles Lennox, the Duke of Richmond, wasn't truly a Stuart. Bastards do not belong to the houses of their fathers, at least not unless they are legitimated. This is why King Charles II gave him the surname "Lennox", because otherwise he wouldn't have had one. "Stuart" didn't legally belong to him.
To be in the line of succession to the British throne you must be a non roman Catholic descendant of George I's mother I'm not sure if the 2 Dukes you mention qualify
@ I may have missed read some of the information that I was reading, what I know about the Duke of Gordon is that he is a Protestant descendent of King Charles ii.
@@annemadison7258 yes the Duke of Richmond, Gordon and Lennox is a descendant of Charles II but from one of his many illegitimate sons which gives him no rights to the succession of the Crown