Check this comment for updates/changes: -!!!The Xata/Felarx interaction was fixed as of Hotfix 35.5.8!!! You will most likely see significantly lower damage output. But the build will still easily deal with armor stripped targets. - Next best option is most likely using Roar/Nourish as a helminth instead of Xata's - In hindsight, subsuming over Ash' 3rd is a better option. - It's been pointed out that the felarx has infinite body punch trough so the riven would benefit more from multishot or dmg.
But as a question, since the second projectile is still 30% of the 2000% extra (so like 500% extra damage), wouldnt it still be better than roar, or is xatas whisper a straight downgrade now
@@paulortiz6226 Xata's should still be really good also for the void damage against overguard on the thrax. Just listing options for people if they feel like it underperforms :)
I find that Ash’s invis duration of 20 seconds is totally playable. Instead I use Equilibrium. As for archon shards I run: - Parkour velocity - Casting Speed - Energy Effectiveness (might switch this one out) - Energy max (so we get over 500) - Purple melee crit damage Combined with a glaive and it easily clears enemies well into the thousands.
afaik the only part of the grimoire that is affected by fulmination is the explosion at the end of the alt fire So depending on your preference this might be a good candidate to use any other mod
Any tips on not getting overwhelmed with 4 or 5 exo at the same time? It's a rare ocurrence when I duo this with my gf, but sometimes it happens and it hurts a lot or maybe even fail the mission. Loved the vid, keep it up.
Once the mission spirals it can be hard to save, but; - Try keeping up with new exolizers as they spawn and split up roles with your gf, one person sticks around the old ones the other immediately goes to the new ones - Try synchronizing you void strike with moments where multiple thrax spawn so you can instant tap all of them either one by one with your primary fire or if you are using a 1-4-7 amp (video in description has more details) use the alt-fire. - There is no need to focus on the enemies that spawn once you have all your reactant, once you do, only focus on thrax that spawn in or eximus units (mainly heat/shock ones). - Stay alive at all costs, having to revive each other will further progress the spiraling. Hope that helps! Have fun :D
This would work: overframe.gg/build/new/5837/phenmor/?bs=WzEsNTgzNywzMCwxLFtbNTg0LDUsMF0sWzU1MjEsMTAsMl0sWzYxMSwxMCwyXSxbNTUyMCwxMCwxXSxbNTk0LDUsMV0sWzYzNzIsMywxXSxbNjUyLDUsM10sWzIzODQsMTAsMV0sWzY0NCwzLDFdLFs1NTA3LDUsMF1dXQ== Make sure to choose -crit and 2000% for evo's 3/4.
very good video, I've been using ash and incarnon burston in my void cascade runs. I will definitely try out the ferlax too... a tip for your video editing... if you could make your voice louder would be nice, it was for me a little hard to hear your explanation
@@KeesieOilcorner great, will be waiting for the next one :)... btw since you are using ash with xata's whisper, have you tried it with miter incarnon and/or latron incarnon? these two synergize well with xata's whisper too
Yes I agree, I’ve turned up the volume so I can hear him. The quality and mix levels are good. But it’s all lower than the average video. So bring everything up a decibel or so.
@@KeesieOilcorner Another tip for video editing. When looking at the software, regardless of what you use, there should be an indicator for the volume level. A good rule of thumb is to let the audio play when you're talking and see if it settles at around -12db to -8db. Visual should be green/yellow and never let it go above yellow. ADJUST THE VOLUME FOR THE ENTIRE EDIT not individual clips. That is all.
Ash needs a revisit and it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, stats and ppl`s actions proves he needs one. I say Ash needs a revisit and ppl say "he`s perfect" and get upset with me but he`s not, Ash has issues most ppl don`t know about. The reason being because; · People use two of his augments 24/7 to the point where they completely ignore the issues of the abilities and act like they are ok. · The way people use him and talk about him ("oh he can use seeking shuriken to strip armour and can kill lvl 100+ with bs) they can`t see his issues in a general sense. Look at it this way you have Ash - warframe and you have Ryu - ninja gaiden, if you put Ash in ninja gaiden he would be great probably be even better than Ryu on the other hand if you put Ryu in warframe he will have trouble in that setting. I was playing Ash and their is something I realised... Ash can`t deal with hordes of enemies efficiently that`s why most ppl won`t play him the most effective (fun) way to play him is to play stealthy he can actually be fun if you play him this way. but wf is a for the most part a horde game and Ash just can`t deal with them so this and other issues with him he needs a revisit.
I thought I was seeing a different build than mine, but it's the same! ok, ok, the only difference is the equipment, I'm using Cedo + Dual Toxocyst + Glaive Prime, but anyway, good video, bro
Indeed very chill. I recently use a 50 meter silence Loki and it's very chill too. Combined with a xata whisper player rly chill combo. Was trying the build on ash but his duration is rly crap.. So only 20 second invis and 35 meter silence on him. Works on small tilesets.
Is the punch through necessary? I got a riven with 67% multishot, 54% fire rate, and 51% toxin. Should i still replace Blaze for seeking fury or keep it as it is?
just built this after a bit and got told the xatas whisper interaction with devouring attrition no longer double dips because of a recent update DE made :( chose to subsume eclipse instead, even if there was a nerf to it, it helps to have some added survivability and damage :)
The build will be able to deal with any type of content on SP :). This combo also works particularly well in Disruption. For modes where you'd like higher kills per second, such as survival or defense (mostly for efficiency) I would look into more AoE focused builds.
Maybe he’s rich af and doesn’t want people asking for plat. I’ve seen that happen to content creators before. “Damn you’ve got 50,000 plat!! Can I have 100 for a warframe I really want?” Etc. Or maybe not idk.
Good point! Only downside is it doesn't give initial combo so heavy attacks would consume the combo counter unless you build for heavy attack efficiency which could lead to loss in damage.
Every little bit helps, but you can always run whatever shards you like most, this specific build doesn't hinge on hitting certain breakpoint values. :)
I'm not running this, I love the mode, but I don't farm it. I just stopped in to see what the community is doing and how this whole farm actually works. Lovely video, quick and to the point. I would suggest you add simple subtitles in the future, if it's not too much work. It's a very underrated accessibility feature, they don't even have to by stylized in any way. Thank you for the video and good luck with drops!
In the next update all zaws should allowed to be incarnonized. The shards you used is bad doesn't make any sense for the build at all tbh, if anything would only use 4 Duration shards and the middle slot as additional Energy shard.
Check this comment for updates/changes:
-!!!The Xata/Felarx interaction was fixed as of Hotfix 35.5.8!!! You will most likely see significantly lower damage output.
But the build will still easily deal with armor stripped targets.
- Next best option is most likely using Roar/Nourish as a helminth instead of Xata's
- In hindsight, subsuming over Ash' 3rd is a better option.
- It's been pointed out that the felarx has infinite body punch trough so the riven would benefit more from multishot or dmg.
Still hits like an absolute truck without xatas
But as a question, since the second projectile is still 30% of the 2000% extra (so like 500% extra damage), wouldnt it still be better than roar, or is xatas whisper a straight downgrade now
@@paulortiz6226 Xata's should still be really good also for the void damage against overguard on the thrax. Just listing options for people if they feel like it underperforms :)
@@KeesieOilcorner Hi little question what if on the ceramic dagger i dont have a riven what can i put ?
@@french_pnl255 Killing Blow would be decent :)
I find that Ash’s invis duration of 20 seconds is totally playable. Instead I use Equilibrium. As for archon shards I run:
- Parkour velocity
- Casting Speed
- Energy Effectiveness (might switch this one out)
- Energy max (so we get over 500)
- Purple melee crit damage
Combined with a glaive and it easily clears enemies well into the thousands.
what glaive build do you useV
PT is not needed, Felarx already has infinite body punch through
What is pt ?
@@french_pnl255 punch through
true, it does
great video dude! subbed and liked. keep it up :D (used to play ash years ago and might just give this a try.)
Thanks! :)
Why is bros voice so soothing
i can’t do any of what he does but i want to u earned a sub i’m gonna try for your builds
and ... just a few days ago the intereaction with Xata Whisper is "fixed", doesn't destroy the build in any way though.
afaik the only part of the grimoire that is affected by fulmination is the explosion at the end of the alt fire
So depending on your preference this might be a good candidate to use any other mod
Good tip thanks!
Any tips on not getting overwhelmed with 4 or 5 exo at the same time? It's a rare ocurrence when I duo this with my gf, but sometimes it happens and it hurts a lot or maybe even fail the mission. Loved the vid, keep it up.
Once the mission spirals it can be hard to save, but;
- Try keeping up with new exolizers as they spawn and split up roles with your gf, one person sticks around the old ones the other immediately goes to the new ones
- Try synchronizing you void strike with moments where multiple thrax spawn so you can instant tap all of them either one by one with your primary fire or if you are using a 1-4-7 amp (video in description has more details) use the alt-fire.
- There is no need to focus on the enemies that spawn once you have all your reactant, once you do, only focus on thrax that spawn in or eximus units (mainly heat/shock ones).
- Stay alive at all costs, having to revive each other will further progress the spiraling.
Hope that helps! Have fun :D
Are there any phenmor builds you'd recommend to accompany this ash build? I'd get the felarx eventually but its all i have atm
I got a nice riven for sale if you need it
This would work:
overframe.gg/build/new/5837/phenmor/?bs=WzEsNTgzNywzMCwxLFtbNTg0LDUsMF0sWzU1MjEsMTAsMl0sWzYxMSwxMCwyXSxbNTUyMCwxMCwxXSxbNTk0LDUsMV0sWzYzNzIsMywxXSxbNjUyLDUsM10sWzIzODQsMTAsMV0sWzY0NCwzLDFdLFs1NTA3LDUsMF1dXQ==
Make sure to choose -crit and 2000% for evo's 3/4.
@@KeesieOilcorner thank you!
guys dont sleep on Boltor incarnon, i use telos boltor with a riven and it does absurdo damage, most of the time one shots the thrax
very good video, I've been using ash and incarnon burston in my void cascade runs. I will definitely try out the ferlax too... a tip for your video editing... if you could make your voice louder would be nice, it was for me a little hard to hear your explanation
Thanks for watching and the feedback! I'll try to manage audio a bit better for the next one.
@@KeesieOilcorner great, will be waiting for the next one :)... btw since you are using ash with xata's whisper, have you tried it with miter incarnon and/or latron incarnon? these two synergize well with xata's whisper too
Yes I agree, I’ve turned up the volume so I can hear him. The quality and mix levels are good. But it’s all lower than the average video. So bring everything up a decibel or so.
Haven't tried them yet, really need to force myself to get some pathos clamps at some point. Might do so in the near future.
@@KeesieOilcorner Another tip for video editing. When looking at the software, regardless of what you use, there should be an indicator for the volume level. A good rule of thumb is to let the audio play when you're talking and see if it settles at around -12db to -8db. Visual should be green/yellow and never let it go above yellow. ADJUST THE VOLUME FOR THE ENTIRE EDIT not individual clips. That is all.
Just a note on PT: Shotgun and Incarnon form have innate Infinite Body Punch Through.
Added to pinned thank you :)
Why not a primed faction mode instead of Vigilante Armaments if there's enough mod capacity?
Could do!
Ash needs a revisit and it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, stats and ppl`s actions proves he needs one.
I say Ash needs a revisit and ppl say "he`s perfect" and get upset with me but he`s not, Ash has issues most ppl don`t know about.
The reason being because;
· People use two of his augments 24/7 to the point where they completely ignore the issues of the abilities and act like they are ok.
· The way people use him and talk about him ("oh he can use seeking shuriken to strip armour and can kill lvl 100+ with bs) they can`t see his issues in a general sense.
Look at it this way you have Ash - warframe and you have Ryu - ninja gaiden, if you put Ash in ninja gaiden he would be great probably be even better than Ryu on the other hand if you put Ryu in warframe he will have trouble in that setting.
I was playing Ash and their is something I realised...
Ash can`t deal with hordes of enemies efficiently that`s why most ppl won`t play him the most effective (fun) way to play him is to play stealthy he can actually be fun if you play him this way. but wf is a for the most part a horde game and Ash just can`t deal with them so this and other issues with him he needs a revisit.
I thought I was seeing a different build than mine, but it's the same! ok, ok, the only difference is the equipment, I'm using Cedo + Dual Toxocyst + Glaive Prime, but anyway, good video, bro
Also a great combo!
Dose this biuld still work❤
Slightly less effective due to some nerfs, but still does the job :)
love the name of your amp. also, now i gotta change my ash build, for the better. tnx
Indeed very chill. I recently use a 50 meter silence Loki and it's very chill too. Combined with a xata whisper player rly chill combo. Was trying the build on ash but his duration is rly crap.. So only 20 second invis and 35 meter silence on him. Works on small tilesets.
Try focusing on bladestorm and use arcane trickery so bladestorm triggers invis for 20s
Is the punch through necessary? I got a riven with 67% multishot, 54% fire rate, and 51% toxin. Should i still replace Blaze for seeking fury or keep it as it is?
Keep as is! Great riven :)
Didn't they fix xatas wisper?
I have a question I don't have the tome mod so I plan to use either the Laetum or Dual Toxocyst. Which should I use?
Both are great choices, choose whichever you like most 😁
just built this after a bit and got told the xatas whisper interaction with devouring attrition no longer double dips because of a recent update DE made :( chose to subsume eclipse instead, even if there was a nerf to it, it helps to have some added survivability and damage :)
Yeah I just saw... real shame, but shit happens. Currently working on another video with a broken interaction. Need to test if it still works.
Can you show me where in the 35.5.7 hotfix anything related to felarx/xata has been mentioned ? cant find it
Was 35.5.8 my bad!
I need a fashion video
so how is this build for clearing SP all mission types? like defence etc, i bet this will be good in almost anything?
The build will be able to deal with any type of content on SP :). This combo also works particularly well in Disruption. For modes where you'd like higher kills per second, such as survival or defense (mostly for efficiency) I would look into more AoE focused builds.
Bro, i can't hear shit
hmmm why do you hide your credits and plat?
Maybe he’s rich af and doesn’t want people asking for plat. I’ve seen that happen to content creators before. “Damn you’ve got 50,000 plat!! Can I have 100 for a warframe I really want?” Etc.
Or maybe not idk.
Pretty much this. I might make a guide on trading at some point and show it.
@@richardwhite3521 oh ok yeah this makes sense
How's savage silence ash build in void cascade? I'm currently making ash prime just for that because I've heard it's pretty good as well.
From when lvl 10001 enemies exist in Warframe?
No idea, I think it might be a rounding error that takes place when some enemies convert to corrupted.
Njooo, why waist his 4th, remove his 3, cause it;s useless without his 4 for the i frames
I use the 3 on some builds to build initial combo for melee crescendo, you can put Xata's on his 3rd too! :)
@@KeesieOilcorner check out rising storm augment then
Good point! Only downside is it doesn't give initial combo so heavy attacks would consume the combo counter unless you build for heavy attack efficiency which could lead to loss in damage.
Looking further into it, his 4th also charges crescendo, so you're completely right, subsuming over his 3 is a better option!
where is the i frames on his 4th?
ill try this out
Thats riven 😍😍😍
whats the point of using ability duration shards on ash? even tau gives .3s of extra invis
Every little bit helps, but you can always run whatever shards you like most, this specific build doesn't hinge on hitting certain breakpoint values. :)
cool vid, you've got new sub
I'm not running this, I love the mode, but I don't farm it. I just stopped in to see what the community is doing and how this whole farm actually works. Lovely video, quick and to the point. I would suggest you add simple subtitles in the future, if it's not too much work. It's a very underrated accessibility feature, they don't even have to by stylized in any way. Thank you for the video and good luck with drops!
In the next update all zaws should allowed to be incarnonized.
The shards you used is bad doesn't make any sense for the build at all tbh, if anything would only use 4 Duration shards and the middle slot as additional Energy shard.