Thank you very much for the easy to understand explaination unique things of the Bristlecone pine ! I'm really looking forward to visiting this ancient bristlecone pine forest now. Thanks a lot !
I left California years ago and I do not miss it. It is too expensive and has too much traffic. I visit every now and again. Freedom and liberty are becoming extinct in California.
It had the most diverse topography in the world. From Redwoods and rain forests to the High Sierra and 395 to the great Central Valley and it’s agriculture to the subtropical beaches in SoCal. Throw in Big Sur and Death Valley...now the overpopulation is another story...
Great video, very informative. I’m headed up there in a few weeks to take Milky Way photos with bristlecones in the foreground. Thanks for the great video..
Might be a little snow up high but should be beautiful. Both areas have uncrowded campgrounds. I do recall the water not being turned on in the campgrounds in Great Basin and there is not a lot of water in the Whites so be prepared for that. Have a great time.
Thanks for the advice on the water. I knew White Mnt would not have water but i assumed Great Basin NP would have plenty of water. I'll be in Great Basin tomorrow...take care
I love Great Basin. We were there at the end of May and they hadn't turned on the water yet. There was a stream right through the campground that we used. Love that park! Have fun!
Um dia ainda irei ao Condado de Inyo pra ver essa maravilha do nosso Grandioso Criador. Obrigada por estar mostrando o Pinus Longaeva ou Matusalém. Parabéns pelo seu trabalho. 😍
One must always account for variables when dating trees. Take coastal Douglas Fir for example they can have one, two or even three growth rings per year. Perhaps there are variables we have not taking into account when dating these trees, variables we are not aware of yet. Either way these trees are very old.
I saw somewhere that they grow about 0.25mm a year, not .25/ inch. Makes a bit more sense. A 4600 year old tree using the inches would be 95 feet wide, In mm it's 1,145 meters or about 45 inches. Great video full of info, and respect. Also love the way the Forest Service won't tell anyone which is Methuselah. It was enough we killed Prometheus.
Thanks for the heads up. I am in awe of these trees and the places they grow. I’ve also been to the home of Prometheus and what a special place that is as well!
I'm thinking I should plant some bristle cones and limber out there where the fire burned.it is alpine grassland with sage and ponderosa. I have some 3 year old climbers here in spokane and I don't think they like it here very much. I wonder if they could handle being transplanted
I grew up and lived in California for 40 years. Visited most of the state. Been a truck driver for many many years go all over this country. California and Utah are the most beautiful States imo. Unfortunately I couldn't take the politics anymore, and I decided to move out of it California. It always remains in my heart, and I wish the best for the state and the wonderful kind people of California. I hate see it run by a bunch of politicians who really don't care about anything but what their corporate overlords tell them to do.
It would have been appropriate to have mentioned the man who named the species after many years of study of all the bristlecones. i had the great honour to visit many of the stands and to have touched them, but they touched me more than anything else ever has. many thanks to my old friend who took me to see these trees, Dr Dana K. Bailey.
I would have if I had known. How fortunate for you to be able to walk among these trees with someone who put so much of his life into studying them. It's a special place indeed. If you haven't already you should check out the Foxtail Pines in the Sierra just across the Owens Valley. It's interesting to compare the evolution of these very similar species in different environments.
Guy's talking like he's a Certified Arborist or something. Excellent work ApeMan. I want to know more about when radioisotope carbon dating fell out of favor over Bristlecone rings or DNA (unclear which you meant). And it's impact on European history as you eluded to. Going to take a growler, at least, before I'm fully informed. I love Inyo Country. You pick the best of the Best of California. Great UTube Old Skywalker.
Why is there little to no information about or images of the tree found older than Methuselah yet everyone seems to know it exists? Thanks for posting this video.
Sadly they are worried about vandalism and soil compaction from everyone wanting to walk up to it and touch it. People might be tempted to take a sample home etc...Valid concerns.
Walking up and touching it? You can touch methuselah and many around it's age right from the methuselah trail. Just go, enjoy the forest, pack out what you brought and have an amazing time. Does it really matter that you found methuselah? You're among it and many possibly older.
The Sarv-e Abarqu cypress is indeed a very old tree and currently is considered the 3rd oldest tree in the world. Methuselah in the California bristlecone pine forest at 4850 years old has given up its oldest tree title to another unnamed bristlecone in the same grove. Core samples have shown that tree to be over 5000 years old!
is it at all possible to change that county's name perhaps: it means something very foul and vulgar in a south african native language!!! in Isixhosa! sis !
why do they not fortify the root by idk like covering it up ? or adding some fertilizer or cover or moisture or something that would not mess up the biology of the tree and i don't want to hear without detailed explanation that putting some certain dirt over the root could possibly kill the tree of, cmon.
They do best in their poor native alkaline very dry soils which is one of the reasons from Nha don’t kill them because conditions are very poor for fungi and other tree root enemies.
They've actually now closed the gap between the dead and live cores at Arizona State. (Take that Creationists!) Incredibly cool when you stop to really think about it.
Yes it is amazing. I hadn't realized they closed the gap. So know we have a timeline of 12k+ years! Isn't science awesome! A tree has rewritten the history books!
They found even older dead wood on the ground and match it up to core samples from the oldest living trees by comparing annual rings. There was a gap that they couldn't account for so they knew it was really old but were not able to confirm how old. Does that make sense? I talk about it in the video.
excellent video. really interesting to be able to walk around trees that are thousands of years old. one thing I would like to note. is that : ones views on origins also dictates "were the science" leads them. the underlying beliefs a individual has regarding origins dictates what assumptions they are willing to make / tolerate. without being able to prove their position scientifically. I believe to hold a opinion regarding origins Requires faith. Regardless of one's view point. becasue origins does not even meet the standard or what is a sceintific study. the scentific method can't be applied to origins. you can't test, demonstate, observe, or repeat origins . leaving Scientists to make assumptions. and these assumptions also steer what consulsions they come to. that being said. I do agree with the age you stated these trees were.
The difference between the assumptions of creationists and scientists regarding origin is creationists will back their assumptions on man made books and fairy tales passed down through the ages by goofballs who thought the world was flat and angels flutter around protecting people, while scientists base their assumptions (theories) of origin on repeatably testable facts you can hold with your hand or see in a microscope. What's more credible, a story passed down hundreds of years or a fossil that's millions of years old that you can hold in your hand and be repeatably tested by carbon dated and dna?
Hi AM, Check your narritive. You put Sept 2017 you visited the forest. Can you time travel? If you can let me know how. There is a few things I want to change in history. ha ha.
BONITO. Excellent video. We have two videos in Spanish and one in English about the oldest tree in the Antilles. Visit my channel as we have new material. A hug from the first Santiago de América.
dude, why on Earth would you recommend random people visiting the place? Do you want these trees to disappear? As you've said yourself, one of dudes like you already killed another ancient tree "by accident". 🤬
My belief is awareness motivates people to protect irreplaceable resources. Who knows how many rare national treasures were destroyed by early pioneers that we will never know about. Besides these trees are protected in a reserve in a national forest and are remote enough that not many people visit. Being so remote has helped protect them. Our national forests and national parks were created to protect the resources within, yet still give access for people to enjoy and study.
@@ApeMan with all my respect, don't call them national treasures only. That's world heritage! And the fact that early pioneers destroyed a lot (for real) doesn't mean you can encourage more destruction. The less people goes there, the better. Absence of people is much better for the resources than awareness, because there're people who would destroy despite knowing what they're doing.
Serhii Vyplavin I get your point. There are many places I visit that I won’t disclose their location because they are fragile ecosystems that can’t handle increased usage. These trees are so remote that high usage is not an issue. There are rules and federal protections. Your concern of vandalism is shared by me and the parks workers. The disclosure of the oldest tree is a closely guarded secret. I think the risk is worth it. Some people aren’t impressed but many who spend time here can have a life changing experience. The biggest threat to these trees is climate change. The more people that can become “woke” by seeing places like this the better chance we all have of making the changes necessary to save these magnificent trees. The daily choices we make at home ultimately impact the fate of these trees. I love your passion and concern.
The Bristlecone pine is indeed the oldest non clonal tree in the world. The tree you are thinking of is called Old Tjikko and is a clonal tree originating from an underground root mass that is nearly 10,000 years old. The above ground visual tree is a much younger sprout from that root mass. The quaking Aspen Pando clonal root system is among the oldest and largest organisms on earth. It's located in Utah. It's estimated to be 80,000 years old and weighs 660 hundred tons and covers an area over 100 acres. It's visual portion of above ground trees are much younger and constantly replaced with new sprouts as they die off.
The Sequoia trees have the distinction of being the largest in mass trees in the world. The General Sherman tree in Sequoia National Park is the biggest but not the oldest. The oldest Sequoias are in the neighborhood of 3200 years old which is amazing considering their massive size. The Bristlecones are much more compact and don't run as high of risk of toppling which is one of many factors that allow the oldest trees to live to 5000 years old.
Yes these are the oldest individual trees in the world! There are older clonal trees that originate from ancient underground root masses but the bristlecones are indeed the oldest stand alone trees in the world.
The Cedar of Lebanon tree can indeed attain an old age with the oldest being around 2500 years old. The oldest Bristlecone Pine in the White Mountains of California is over 5000 years old making it the oldest individual tree in the world.
Lucky enough to see them for my self. It feels majestic when you are there. I love you California.
Gives me goosebumps!
Thank you very much for the easy to understand explaination unique things of the Bristlecone pine ! I'm really looking forward to visiting this ancient bristlecone pine forest now. Thanks a lot !
how was it?
Thanks for sharing the trees with us.... these are so beautiful!
thank you for this video and informative tidbits and explanations.
7:23 *wow the whole* tree looks dead, but one vein keeping that Ancient Bristlecone Pine alive! 😳😳
California has the best of everything, I know it's expensive to live here but I don't think I could live anywhere else... Thanks for sharing....
Amen to that. I love it here!
I left California years ago and I do not miss it. It is too expensive and has too much traffic. I visit every now and again. Freedom and liberty are becoming extinct in California.
@@ElectronicGigabyte Lived here my whole life and talking to people from other states, they don't want us to herd to them and ruin their state lol.
It had the most diverse topography in the world. From Redwoods and rain forests to the High Sierra and 395 to the great Central Valley and it’s agriculture to the subtropical beaches in SoCal. Throw in Big Sur and Death Valley...now the overpopulation is another story...
I fkn hate California
Awesome video. Next time I am in Cali, I will try to visit the White Mountains and see those very old but such beautiful trees.
Great video! Unreal to ever think about 4800 years old. Strange beauty!
8:38 The oldest tree in the world in the frame during this entire discussion
He didn't notice 💀
Great video, very informative. I’m headed up there in a few weeks to take Milky Way photos with bristlecones in the foreground. Thanks for the great video..
Sounds awesome. It's a special place. Bring a jacket!
Those trees are older than the Pyramids in Giza!
Yup! It's humbling walking among trees that have been there for 5000 years!
And they’re still living 😳
Thank you
Thank you for the great video!
nice video. love the slide show...i'm headed to Great Basin NP and the White Mnts. this week. thanks for sharing....
Might be a little snow up high but should be beautiful. Both areas have uncrowded campgrounds. I do recall the water not being turned on in the campgrounds in Great Basin and there is not a lot of water in the Whites so be prepared for that. Have a great time.
Thanks for the advice on the water. I knew White Mnt would not have water but i assumed Great Basin NP would have plenty of water. I'll be in Great Basin tomorrow...take care
I love Great Basin. We were there at the end of May and they hadn't turned on the water yet. There was a stream right through the campground that we used. Love that park! Have fun!
Thank You!
Um dia ainda irei ao Condado de Inyo pra ver essa maravilha do nosso Grandioso Criador. Obrigada por estar mostrando o Pinus Longaeva ou Matusalém. Parabéns pelo seu trabalho. 😍
não há de quê. venha vê-los pessoalmente
Outstanding - thanks.
simply amazing.
A magical place and experience!
This was amazing thank you. What a cool place. I must go some day.
Holy majestic ancient Methuselah trees !
Awesome music! You got music class:)
Thanks Mike! I show my age sometimes with my old school music.
Great Video, I'm going in a few weeks
Thank you great video and information 👌
One must always account for variables when dating trees.
Take coastal Douglas Fir for example they can have one, two or even three growth rings per year.
Perhaps there are variables we have not taking into account when dating these trees, variables we are not aware of yet.
Either way these trees are very old.
I saw somewhere that they grow about 0.25mm a year, not .25/ inch. Makes a bit more sense. A 4600 year old tree using the inches would be 95 feet wide, In mm it's 1,145 meters or about 45 inches. Great video full of info, and respect. Also love the way the Forest Service won't tell anyone which is Methuselah. It was enough we killed Prometheus.
Thanks for the heads up. I am in awe of these trees and the places they grow. I’ve also been to the home of Prometheus and what a special place that is as well!
@@ApeMan Really hope to see this grove this summer.
I'm thinking I should plant some bristle cones and limber out there where the fire burned.it is alpine grassland with sage and ponderosa. I have some 3 year old climbers here in spokane and I don't think they like it here very much. I wonder if they could handle being transplanted
The bigger the rootball the better chance of survival. That Spokane climate might mimic their native dry areas. Give it a shot!
@@ApeMan thanks for the tip.merry Christmas ☀️
Awesome ending with Kansas
I grew up and lived in California for 40 years. Visited most of the state. Been a truck driver for many many years go all over this country. California and Utah are the most beautiful States imo.
Unfortunately I couldn't take the politics anymore, and I decided to move out of it California. It always remains in my heart, and I wish the best for the state and the wonderful kind people of California.
I hate see it run by a bunch of politicians who really don't care about anything but what their corporate overlords tell them to do.
It would have been appropriate to have mentioned the man who named the species after many years of study of all the bristlecones. i had the great honour to visit many of the stands and to have touched them, but they touched me more than anything else ever has. many thanks to my old friend who took me to see these trees, Dr Dana K. Bailey.
I would have if I had known. How fortunate for you to be able to walk among these trees with someone who put so much of his life into studying them. It's a special place indeed. If you haven't already you should check out the Foxtail Pines in the Sierra just across the Owens Valley. It's interesting to compare the evolution of these very similar species in different environments.
Amazing trees, ApeMan!
The great basin bristlecone pine is one of the oldest tree's in the world, its actually 5,000 years old its ben in the pine forest for over many years
Guy's talking like he's a Certified Arborist or something. Excellent work ApeMan. I want to know more about when radioisotope carbon dating fell out of favor over Bristlecone rings or DNA (unclear which you meant). And it's impact on European history as you eluded to. Going to take a growler, at least, before I'm fully informed. I love Inyo Country. You pick the best of the Best of California. Great UTube Old Skywalker.
Im impressed about the fact they didn't cut off the tree yet
Less than a minute in and he can't resist stroking the trees.
Tree porn!
Now this is amazing. Too bad Prometheus got cut down. Wish i could see these once in person.. trully humbling.
Why is there little to no information about or images of the tree found older than Methuselah yet everyone seems to know it exists? Thanks for posting this video.
Sadly they are worried about vandalism and soil compaction from everyone wanting to walk up to it and touch it. People might be tempted to take a sample home etc...Valid concerns.
Ape Man I see. Thanks.
Walking up and touching it? You can touch methuselah and many around it's age right from the methuselah trail. Just go, enjoy the forest, pack out what you brought and have an amazing time. Does it really matter that you found methuselah? You're among it and many possibly older.
What about 4800 years old Iranian Alive Cypress Tree?
The Sarv-e Abarqu cypress is indeed a very old tree and currently is considered the 3rd oldest tree in the world. Methuselah in the California bristlecone pine forest at 4850 years old has given up its oldest tree title to another unnamed bristlecone in the same grove. Core samples have shown that tree to be over 5000 years old!
World's oldest tree on 5:13.thank me later 😃😃
Creative Minds how do you know ?
Not really oldest but rather the 2nd oldest.
cheers mate
is it at all possible to change that county's name perhaps: it means something very foul and vulgar in a south african native language!!! in Isixhosa! sis !
1000 more years?
Let’s hope man hasn’t destroyed the planet by then!
Have you ever thought of what it saw for the past 5000 years of it's life??
Probably....not too much considering the location haha
Divine princess
why do they not fortify the root by idk like covering it up ? or adding some fertilizer or cover or moisture or something that would not mess up the biology of the tree and i don't want to hear without detailed explanation that putting some certain dirt over the root could possibly kill the tree of, cmon.
They do best in their poor native alkaline very dry soils which is one of the reasons from Nha don’t kill them because conditions are very poor for fungi and other tree root enemies.
Nature's bonsais
Individual trees but not species. Australia's Wollomi Pine located in a remote gorge in the Blue Mountains predates it by some 100, 000,000 years
Oh for sure, but 5000 years standing is crazy
Cool
😯😯😯😯
Wheeler Peak is 13063 feet.
Right you are! Thanks for that correction. No wonder there was so much snow up there when I tried to climb it in May!
So also a climate record for 12000 years..
They've actually now closed the gap between the dead and live cores at Arizona State. (Take that Creationists!) Incredibly cool when you stop to really think about it.
Yes it is amazing. I hadn't realized they closed the gap. So know we have a timeline of 12k+ years! Isn't science awesome! A tree has rewritten the history books!
What do you mean close the gap?
They found even older dead wood on the ground and match it up to core samples from the oldest living trees by comparing annual rings. There was a gap that they couldn't account for so they knew it was really old but were not able to confirm how old. Does that make sense? I talk about it in the video.
excellent video. really interesting to be able to walk around trees that are thousands of years old. one thing I would like to note. is that : ones views on origins also dictates "were the science" leads them. the underlying beliefs a individual has regarding origins dictates what assumptions they are willing to make / tolerate. without being able to prove their position scientifically. I believe to hold a opinion regarding origins Requires faith. Regardless of one's view point. becasue origins does not even meet the standard or what is a sceintific study. the scentific method can't be applied to origins. you can't test, demonstate, observe, or repeat origins . leaving Scientists to make assumptions. and these assumptions also steer what consulsions they come to. that being said. I do agree with the age you stated these trees were.
The difference between the assumptions of creationists and scientists regarding origin is creationists will back their assumptions on man made books and fairy tales passed down through the ages by goofballs who thought the world was flat and angels flutter around protecting people, while scientists base their assumptions (theories) of origin on repeatably testable facts you can hold with your hand or see in a microscope. What's more credible, a story passed down hundreds of years or a fossil that's millions of years old that you can hold in your hand and be repeatably tested by carbon dated and dna?
those trees are basically the next filial generations from after the younger dryas assault or whatever it is claimed to be.
Hi AM, Check your narritive. You put Sept 2017 you visited the forest. Can you time travel? If you can let me know how. There is a few things I want to change in history. ha ha.
The future is scary so I have destroyed the time machine. Thanks for the heads up!
BONITO. Excellent video. We have two videos in Spanish and one in English about the oldest tree in the Antilles. Visit my channel as we have new material. A hug from the first Santiago de América.
dude, why on Earth would you recommend random people visiting the place? Do you want these trees to disappear? As you've said yourself, one of dudes like you already killed another ancient tree "by accident". 🤬
My belief is awareness motivates people to protect irreplaceable resources. Who knows how many rare national treasures were destroyed by early pioneers that we will never know about. Besides these trees are protected in a reserve in a national forest and are remote enough that not many people visit. Being so remote has helped protect them. Our national forests and national parks were created to protect the resources within, yet still give access for people to enjoy and study.
@@ApeMan with all my respect, don't call them national treasures only. That's world heritage! And the fact that early pioneers destroyed a lot (for real) doesn't mean you can encourage more destruction. The less people goes there, the better. Absence of people is much better for the resources than awareness, because there're people who would destroy despite knowing what they're doing.
Serhii Vyplavin I get your point. There are many places I visit that I won’t disclose their location because they are fragile ecosystems that can’t handle increased usage. These trees are so remote that high usage is not an issue. There are rules and federal protections. Your concern of vandalism is shared by me and the parks workers. The disclosure of the oldest tree is a closely guarded secret. I think the risk is worth it. Some people aren’t impressed but many who spend time here can have a life changing experience. The biggest threat to these trees is climate change. The more people that can become “woke” by seeing places like this the better chance we all have of making the changes necessary to save these magnificent trees. The daily choices we make at home ultimately impact the fate of these trees. I love your passion and concern.
Should not be leaning against it
The curse of Methuselah
Imagine something alive that is older than Jesus and Pyramids
not older than hinduism
they are trees way older mate, like a 10k tree from sweden
The Bristlecone pine is indeed the oldest non clonal tree in the world. The tree you are thinking of is called Old Tjikko and is a clonal tree originating from an underground root mass that is nearly 10,000 years old. The above ground visual tree is a much younger sprout from that root mass. The quaking Aspen Pando clonal root system is among the oldest and largest organisms on earth. It's located in Utah. It's estimated to be 80,000 years old and weighs 660 hundred tons and covers an area over 100 acres. It's visual portion of above ground trees are much younger and constantly replaced with new sprouts as they die off.
3-4k years old, damn older then the oldest Sequoia tree. False..
The Sequoia trees have the distinction of being the largest in mass trees in the world. The General Sherman tree in Sequoia National Park is the biggest but not the oldest. The oldest Sequoias are in the neighborhood of 3200 years old which is amazing considering their massive size. The Bristlecones are much more compact and don't run as high of risk of toppling which is one of many factors that allow the oldest trees to live to 5000 years old.
Oldest tree in the US maybe, but the US is not the World... LOL.
Yes these are the oldest individual trees in the world! There are older clonal trees that originate from ancient underground root masses but the bristlecones are indeed the oldest stand alone trees in the world.
@@ApeMan information is constantly changing. As in gobeklitepe
the oldest tree in the world is the Cedrus Libani or Cedar of Lebanon
The Cedar of Lebanon tree can indeed attain an old age with the oldest being around 2500 years old. The oldest Bristlecone Pine in the White Mountains of California is over 5000 years old making it the oldest individual tree in the world.