I'm not a huge Rivera fan, but this is totally visionary. History coming back to haunt us once again, the days of authoritarians and rampant speculation/inequality. I love the bright wings/ellipses, as if of a dragonfly,,, man defying the universe to master it. Completely fascinating, one of the most universal and provocative murals I've seen; a definitive piece of 20th century art, for sure !!
Such a great discussion. This piece really highlights the cyclical nature of our history. It's hard to read this image and not think of the extremely similar political debates going on today in 2016.
That's what I was going to say...and I think the orb is representing a crystal ball to mean that is the direction we are headed in set as the intersection of to circular planes - one representing the microcosm, the other the macrocosm...
3:37 isn't that an atom and cellular division? Rivera may have realized the importance of genetics and particle physics as breakthrough scientific discoveries.
Hi, I'm from Mexico and your video is great! How can I contribute to add subtitles in spanish so people can understand the explanation of the mural, which is really interesting
Great explanation of the mural. I felt connected to this picture, because it reflects human nature, and the fact that it keeps repeating itself, even to this day we are in the same crossroads.
I’m only 17 and I’m researching Diego Rivera and I had no clue into who he was but this painting is just amazing...any additional suggestions I can use on my report?
We need a remake, "Man, out of control." Our present circumstances are mirroring the early 1900, except we have the added issues of ecological and climate chaos.
Nelson Rockefeller offered the mostly finished mural to MoMA, but it refused taking it! It would have survived there had the directors of that museum were not afraid of the public/media reaction to them putting up the "commie" mural up in their museum. So, sadly the mostly finished mural was chiselled off the wall and a Spanish painter was invited in to repaint the wall.
though in a way, it sort of ends up being better the way it went... much more revealing story about all the players involved, and this mural living in Diego Rivera's homeland, a sweet poetic justice considering all the political animosity at present day...
This is an amazing piece with the backstory to match. 30 Rock is a jewel indeed - some of my biggest laughs came from that place. ❤ The artistic shade, though: "Here's a syphilitic idiot who wouldn't respect my views." For someone who had such thoughts of communism, it's not lost on me that the controller is a blonde with blue eyes. I don't know Rivera's views, but I hold hope for a different interpretation of Zeus.
He strove to represent something profound and awe-inspiring, even sublime. And these are powerful murals to behold. I visited the ones in Detroit often. However, poor examples of human beings to place on pedestals.. Vladimir Lenin massacred more than 1 million people for political or religious reasons. He murdered up to 700,000 in the genocide of the Cossacks He killed more than 15,000 peasants in the Tambov Rebellion and over 3,000 sailors and civilians in the Kronstadt Rebellion. He killed tens of thousands of workers who organized strikes or could not work. 2 million +/- died in his Gulag concentration camps and upwards of 8 million from famine and disease. So however noble his aspirations, and Marx's for that matter, they ended up being murderous.
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Is an 84 year old painting but what it portrays is as relevant as ever.
Thank you for the excellent analysis, very educational and enjoyable at the same time.
This work is to me incredibly and intriguing so much said for all to see . Thanks for uploading.
I'm not a huge Rivera fan, but this is totally visionary. History coming back to haunt us once again, the days of authoritarians and rampant speculation/inequality. I love the bright wings/ellipses, as if of a dragonfly,,, man defying the universe to master it. Completely fascinating, one of the most universal and provocative murals I've seen; a definitive piece of 20th century art, for sure !!
Just amazing work. Becomes more relevant every day.
This is beautiful. Thank you.
This was great analysis from you both! thanks for sharing
Diego Rivera's murals are so much relevant today. It's on my wish list to visit. Lovely video, thank you 🙏
Such a great discussion. This piece really highlights the cyclical nature of our history. It's hard to read this image and not think of the extremely similar political debates going on today in 2016.
2021 and is still relevant, sadly
@@ericktellez7632 so will 2023 sadly
More people need to see this
I love this painting, i wish to see it in person one day
Fantastic!
3:34 is not just an orb reflecting a "control panel" - those are, I think, diagrams of atomic orbitals and a cell division in anaphase :)
That's what I was going to say...and I think the orb is representing a crystal ball to mean that is the direction we are headed in set as the intersection of to circular planes - one representing the microcosm, the other the macrocosm...
Truly incredible
great art and discussion
Man at the Crossroads; is history beginning to repeat itself?
3:37 isn't that an atom and cellular division? Rivera may have realized the importance of genetics and particle physics as breakthrough scientific discoveries.
Cool painting.
Timeless…
Dam what a expression
dude, this is cool
Love that mural!
Wow.
Hi, I'm from Mexico and your video is great! How can I contribute to add subtitles in spanish so people can understand the explanation of the mural, which is really interesting
Amazing mural art
Great explanation of the mural. I felt connected to this picture, because it reflects human nature, and the fact that it keeps repeating itself, even to this day we are in the same crossroads.
I’m only 17 and I’m researching Diego Rivera and I had no clue into who he was but this painting is just amazing...any additional suggestions I can use on my report?
We have six videos and essays on Rivera and more on Mexican Muralism: smarthistory.org/rivera-sugar-cane/
Amazing Artist
that was a good as commentary
Cool stuff, cool stuff.
We need a remake, "Man, out of control." Our present circumstances are mirroring the early 1900, except we have the added issues of ecological and climate chaos.
Nelson Rockefeller offered the mostly finished mural to MoMA, but it refused taking it! It would have survived there had the directors of that museum were not afraid of the public/media reaction to them putting up the "commie" mural up in their museum. So, sadly the mostly finished mural was chiselled off the wall and a Spanish painter was invited in to repaint the wall.
though in a way, it sort of ends up being better the way it went... much more revealing story about all the players involved, and this mural living in Diego Rivera's homeland, a sweet poetic justice considering all the political animosity at present day...
LMAO I just googled syphilis, yup that is syphilis.
I laughed out loud when he mentioned that!
This is an amazing piece with the backstory to match.
30 Rock is a jewel indeed - some of my biggest laughs came from that place. ❤
The artistic shade, though: "Here's a syphilitic idiot who wouldn't respect my views."
For someone who had such thoughts of communism, it's not lost on me that the controller is a blonde with blue eyes.
I don't know Rivera's views, but I hold hope for a different interpretation of Zeus.
Full-fledged communist Diego Rivera.
Did he meet Lenin? Was he in Russia? How did he get the soviet propaganda theme?
He strove to represent something profound and awe-inspiring, even sublime. And these are powerful murals to behold. I visited the ones in Detroit often.
However, poor examples of human beings to place on pedestals..
Vladimir Lenin massacred more than 1 million people for political or religious reasons.
He murdered up to 700,000 in the genocide of the Cossacks
He killed more than 15,000 peasants in the Tambov Rebellion and over 3,000 sailors and civilians in the Kronstadt Rebellion.
He killed tens of thousands of workers who organized strikes or could not work.
2 million +/- died in his Gulag concentration camps and upwards of 8 million from famine and disease.
So however noble his aspirations, and Marx's for that matter, they ended up being murderous.
Who brought science? If it was not God.
No one brought it, It's always been here. In my opinion
Who brought God?
I see the wheel prophesied of in the book of Ezekiel.