@@PixelPulseEdits Microsoft is shite for performance. Plain and simple. You could have the most badass system and it'll run like shit once Windows is on it.
Finally!, This is the type of stuff that will help android apps integration to windows ARM! Also, this will help more professional apps to work on ARM devices!
@@MichaelMantion Meh, moving from windows at this point is just delusional... Porting apps to windows ARM might help the port for other ARM OS, which is what the market need, after that we can begin to think about moving away from windows.
@@circuit10 Buzzwords that only geeks care about. Regular everyday users couldn't give a crap about any of that kind of stuff, they just want their computer to work and so far, that's what Microsoft is doing. Meanwhile, for how long have people been saying "this is the year of the Linux desktop"? Yeah, people keep saying that but it never happens.
I got one of these myself but it just errors out when I try to click the buy button to upgrade it from Home to Pro, tried in both Windows 10 and Windows 11. It also apparently doesn't have hardware virtualization support, meaning that developers can't test ARM virtual machine software on it. This also means you can only run WSL1 and not WSL2. Seems like a pretty glaring omission given the price point...
Cool device. Tempted to get one of these as a Desktop Replacement. Wipe Windows and install Linux. Small, very-low TDP, the price is right/reasonable. Is the eMMC upgradable?
I just hope we get Linux running on it. At this rate I wonder if RISCV won’t beat ARM in desktop/mobile Linux. Arm SoC manufacturers are famously opaque about releasing information about their devices making developing stuff in Linux for them is infuriating and often not worth the effort
It's not like RISCV is going to save you from that. There's nothing stopping manufacturers from being just as opaque, the only difference being, they won't be paying licensing to use the ISA
@@AndreVanKammen : Idd, its the drivers, ofcourse you can compile the kernel to run on arm, it'll run on just about anything. It's these stupid binary blobs that you need to faff with to get full functionality.
Your tone here seems very different/much less critical than the one you had on the other video about this dev kit…did the sponsorship condition you on what you could share/discuss?
Yeah, next year when M2 and M1Max quad is released! When M1 will still beat the $hit out of any ARM M1 wannabe, because you know, talk is cheap. Just like Intel Alder lake. If only media and announcements were a true thing! Fingers crossed for a sleeping so called competition to wake up! Later better than never!
Honestly at this point, it’s high time they did. A phone has limitations. A laptop and desktop have far less. If Qualcomm can match or beat apple, it’s here or never - of course the downside would be battery life (if the SD888 with Cortex X1 is anything to go by for battery life and heating) but it would be a statement in itself to have an ARM chip match apple.
A Windows PC development kit with a new PC grade ARM processor from Qualcomm's Nuvia acquisition that could potentially compete with Apple's M1 processor would be much more exciting!
I'll love to see a follow up video with some of the benchmark results against other SBCs. Maybe you could try to run some Phoronix Benchmark Suite to get a broad comparison of the results?
Windows used to be on 4 platforms (MIPS, PowerPC, Alpha, x86). Nice to see it going cross-platform again. I've wanted a powerful ARM computer for a long time. I purchased an M1 Mac last year. I'd still like workstation class ARM system running Linux.
4G RAM and 64G eMMC for development? Isn't RISC processor theoretically consumes more RAM than CISC processor? Windows 11 itself literally eats almost 4G.
4GB is fine to test drive a single application, but all the stuff he showed, like installing VS Code or the Ubuntu subsystem is completely out of the question.
@@graealex that's what I thought too, and eMMC for the storage? It just doesn't make any sense, I thought development kit is meant to facilitate developers not testing patience right?
@@lumpython5351 Twice the RAM and SSD as mSATA or better NVMe, and this might have been interesting, although the CPU isn't anywhere near an M1 - so this dev kit as a desktop replacement was out of the question anyway.
The big problem is that any swapping will depend on that puny little eMMC disk. Developing on a machine with 16GB can already get quite slow. This clearly is just for running your app, and then running your debugger on your workstation and connecting via network to it.
one of the main reasons qcom went with the 7c instead of a more powerful processor is because it forces devs to optimize their software to work on lower end chips.
This seems to me the way forward for Windows given the disruption to X86 by the M1, not negative M1 ads or TH-cam calling this or that Intel of AMD processor as the 'new M1 killer'. MS may have been caught flatfooted by Apple, but you show there is plenty of potential to move to Arm efficiently. Well done.!
No, it's not even close to enough. Not sure why people think that ARM64 would significantly consume less than x64 code. Heck, most modern Android smartphones come with more RAM.
@@graealex because people are looking 'one lightweight app at a time' mobiles, and thinking arm consume less ram. But in reality, the reason of x86 platform becoming popular in computers was high ram need of arm like platforms
@@nevzataydin1 Well, RISC code is less dense than CISC, although there are ways like compressed instructions to reduce that, but from my experience, that is not the majority of RAM usage anyway, so I don't see how the instruction set is going to be something that either significantly increases or decreases the memory usage of a modern (desktop) OS.
Hi Gary, At 6:20 you mention there is a way to install Visual Studio on the dev kit. I tried installing it on another WoS device, but Visual Studio installer gives an error that says 32Bit and ARM devices are not supported. Seems like Visual Studio cannot be installed on the dev kit. 7cX platform is anyway not the most powerful and dev kit is mostly for profiling and testing but did you get a chance to try it out?
100GB Ethernet? Sure you can do it with the right hardware, but WHY would you care? 1GB is more then enough for most "consumer". I assume you mean residential or non-enterprise.
When Intel nowadays using efficiency cores, actually snapdragon has been using it for ages. Snapdragons and other phone processor is way ahead of intel or amd in term of efficiency and heat dissipation
It’d make a great home server for people like me. Not media server or Plex server, but regular media server as long as the IO is not crippled like in most SBCs.
Qualcomm should release another version of this Development Kit that includes the newest generation of 8Cx Gen 3 processor and a minimum of 8GB RAM. The newer processor handles Windows 11 on ARM and improved emulation of x86 applications. There should be two options offered, a premium option for Developers that require faster performance and local Development on the Mini PC with Visual Studio 2022 for ARM. The cheaper version could be offered for Developers that only need it for Remote Debugging.
If that HDMI port is 2.1, (8k 120hz) then it might be. Not saying you need all that. But HDMI 2.0 is limited to 4k / 60hz, which is uncomfortable for some users. Don't know if the gpu (apu) can keep with all that.
I'm a developer of visual novels from Japan, some of which are 10-20 years old and impossible to update to a more modern architecture. I'm terrified this change will split the "Wintel" world in two and cause a zillion problems for my customers.
I already publish my app as a 64 bit ARM binary for Linux. It basically needs libc, an X server and fonts. Does this mean that if a customer buys an ARM Windows device that they can already run it using Linux for Windows subsystem?
How does it compare to M1? Qualcomm SoCs in phones aren't very good, so I don't have high hopes for their CPUs intended for mini desktops or laptops, either...
Are you going to get a Microsoft Dev Kit 2023? Better ARM processor than the Qualcomm dev kit, plus 32 GB Byte RAM and upgradeable NVMe storage. Looks remarkable good value, especially when you compare with an Intel NUC! OK not quite the same levels of performance with latest Intel processor generation, but close match for 10th gen Intel i5 processor.
Windows gave up windows mobile too fast. It could have challenged Android with these ARM PC trends with mobile support. Many mild works can be done on the browser now, I use Samsung Dex for a work station sometimes and love it. MS did this first :/
@@graealex IF? lol BSD has little to offer, the only thing you should be focursed on is developing for linux to put window in the grave where it belongs. I remember using windows 1.0 and being depressed because I knew that people would prefer it to just dos. I am not against a GUI I am against bad software. MSDOS was ok, other DOS were better. BUT WIndows has always been bad. Windows 2k was ok but certainly not good.
@@MichaelMantion Yeah, not really a big fan of religious Linux fans and getting into discussions with them. The matter of fact is that this board is only relevant if you need Windows to run. If that has no relevance for you, get a different board with more power.
While Windows for Arm64 is the generic name, at the moment no other processor is officially supported by Windows. It is Qualcomm who has put in the effort and money. Also an SoC is more than a CPU. Think about the GPU, the 4G modem, etc.
kind of like this...except that qualcomm in the middle there, and they have f**k up things pretty much across the board....Ok, maybe qc aren't as bad/inhibiting as I remember...
Wow the oerformance of that machine os low try exynos with 16gb ram it has 2 amd radeon 650 in sli config 3x8 core cpu running at 3500ghz it bettet than the box thingy
@@GaryExplains ah windows you need to install on your own for example galaxy s22 ultra plus or if you really want a near pc experience galaxy tab s8 plus ,runs windows well ( for best experience you need to compile efi for that particular device or modify an similar efi go to gsm arena and check if the SoC has an DirectX support most have then you can install windows on it instalation is similar to renegade projects
Gary! this might sound strange, but could yo please try the fallout new vegas game? long story short but its related to bug in a w11 vm on the M1 macs.
Garry I'm not happy with today review on time line 1:12, u said window is compiled for arm 64. With out showing the download site for that. I am interested in downloading win 10 arm for my Android phone natively. I don't have the resources for this kit.
Sir we want ARM BASED 64 bit processor Which can handle windows 10 os And with gpu inbuild And it will be a new Era this Era already started. Which less cost as a mini pc .
Looks interesting for "development", but for the price you can get a decent tablet or laptop that is arm based, ha the same power and a screen, touch pad, keyboard and battery. I love arm but this isn't that much more powerful then other stuff out there.
I know nothing about ARM but 4GB if memory seems pretty tight for serious development. There are ways to squeeze down the size and ARM is different in terms of memory utilization but who wants to play stupid games like that in 2021? Is the memory expandable? At that price why not get an 8GB Raspberry Pi, which is also ARM, also runs Windows and save yourself $50-$100? Am I missing something?
“Other brands are known to do!” Other brands don’t sell an under-powered non-useful kit for 219! Other brands lend a highly specced fully working computer before anybody else lays hand on, with the condition to return it back when mainstream computers are available to the public. Other brands = 1 main very well-known pioneer brand who started and is leading this transition to the ARM architecture. But the name is difficult to pronounce, because it brings sourness to everybody else and to all other brands, lol 😂
Hey, we understand Qualcomm sponsored the video. But you don't need to make that obvious by calling it Windows on Qualcomm over and over. It's Windows on ARM (WoA). Keep it that way.
Name me one other SoC that officially supports Windows? What about things like the GPU or 4G modem that are part of the processor. Are they Arm or Snapdragon?
Give shade on apple for having to return the developer kit and get a refund. And at least the apple developer kit was bound to give real world feedback since its all moving... lets see how many apps are native in 6 months on winblows for arm ;)
I am just excited for efficiency that Arm-based processor delivers.
If some how Qualcomm manages to deliver the efficiency and performance like M1 processor. It will be really tough for Intel.
I think Qualcomm can do it but the problem is Microsoft
@@Matteuccishane what about it ?
@@PixelPulseEdits about what ?
@@PixelPulseEdits Microsoft is shite for performance. Plain and simple. You could have the most badass system and it'll run like shit once Windows is on it.
@@LokiScarletWasHere windows runs amazing on m1, even through parallels. Can't imagine how awesome it will be once it runs native.
Finally!, This is the type of stuff that will help android apps integration to windows ARM!
Also, this will help more professional apps to work on ARM devices!
integrating INTO windows is NOT GOOD. LOL we need people to move away from windows to FOSS. Windows on a building good, Windows on a computer BAD
@@MichaelMantion Meh, moving from windows at this point is just delusional...
Porting apps to windows ARM might help the port for other ARM OS, which is what the market need, after that we can begin to think about moving away from windows.
@@soragranda Whereas the advantages include that it's faster (less bloat), a better shell, it's free and open-source and just overall better
@@circuit10 Buzzwords that only geeks care about. Regular everyday users couldn't give a crap about any of that kind of stuff, they just want their computer to work and so far, that's what Microsoft is doing. Meanwhile, for how long have people been saying "this is the year of the Linux desktop"? Yeah, people keep saying that but it never happens.
@@trparky Oh, my first comment didn’t send it seems
I got one of these myself but it just errors out when I try to click the buy button to upgrade it from Home to Pro, tried in both Windows 10 and Windows 11. It also apparently doesn't have hardware virtualization support, meaning that developers can't test ARM virtual machine software on it. This also means you can only run WSL1 and not WSL2. Seems like a pretty glaring omission given the price point...
Hi, did you get it working now? I am asking since 1. surface pro x works fine with hyper-v and WSL2; 2. the snapdragon 7c does support hyper-v.
Cool device. Tempted to get one of these as a Desktop Replacement. Wipe Windows and install Linux. Small, very-low TDP, the price is right/reasonable. Is the eMMC upgradable?
Yeah would be a great project.
@@lopezd-rd7wm Just ordered one. What the hell.
@@MarkDavidMcCoskey awesome! Dont forget to order mine 🤣
You decide on a distro?
Very based.
Thinking the same, but for BSD
I just hope we get Linux running on it. At this rate I wonder if RISCV won’t beat ARM in desktop/mobile Linux. Arm SoC manufacturers are famously opaque about releasing information about their devices making developing stuff in Linux for them is infuriating and often not worth the effort
Well that is simply not true. The only OS you can guarantee that will run in an Arm CPU is Linux. Linaro exists for specifically that reason.
It's not like RISCV is going to save you from that. There's nothing stopping manufacturers from being just as opaque, the only difference being, they won't be paying licensing to use the ISA
@@GaryExplains I think he means getting all the drivers to work for all the Qualcomm hardware in this box.
@@AndreVanKammen : Idd, its the drivers, ofcourse you can compile the kernel to run on arm, it'll run on just about anything. It's these stupid binary blobs that you need to faff with to get full functionality.
Linxu works on Raspberry Pi which have ARM based CPU
Your tone here seems very different/much less critical than the one you had on the other video about this dev kit…did the sponsorship condition you on what you could share/discuss?
It certainly did change Windows name to “Windows for Snapdragon”.
Qualcomm is emerging as a beast. Waiting for the M1-like processor that they promised to release next year.
-------No Apple Fanboys Please-------
Hyped for it too
Yeah, next year when M2 and M1Max quad is released! When M1 will still beat the $hit out of any ARM M1 wannabe, because you know, talk is cheap. Just like Intel Alder lake. If only media and announcements were a true thing!
Fingers crossed for a sleeping so called competition to wake up!
Later better than never!
Honestly at this point, it’s high time they did. A phone has limitations. A laptop and desktop have far less. If Qualcomm can match or beat apple, it’s here or never - of course the downside would be battery life (if the SD888 with Cortex X1 is anything to go by for battery life and heating) but it would be a statement in itself to have an ARM chip match apple.
Yep Im still waiting Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 to competitive M1 first gen
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"No hidden surprises" he says. Yeah right!! a bundled power supply in the package is pretty much a hidden surprise these days.
A Windows PC development kit with a new PC grade ARM processor from Qualcomm's Nuvia acquisition that could potentially compete with Apple's M1 processor would be much more exciting!
I'll love to see a follow up video with some of the benchmark results against other SBCs. Maybe you could try to run some Phoronix Benchmark Suite to get a broad comparison of the results?
Windows used to be on 4 platforms (MIPS, PowerPC, Alpha, x86). Nice to see it going cross-platform again. I've wanted a powerful ARM computer for a long time. I purchased an M1 Mac last year. I'd still like workstation class ARM system running Linux.
4G RAM and 64G eMMC for development? Isn't RISC processor theoretically consumes more RAM than CISC processor? Windows 11 itself literally eats almost 4G.
4GB is fine to test drive a single application, but all the stuff he showed, like installing VS Code or the Ubuntu subsystem is completely out of the question.
@@graealex that's what I thought too, and eMMC for the storage? It just doesn't make any sense, I thought development kit is meant to facilitate developers not testing patience right?
@@lumpython5351 Twice the RAM and SSD as mSATA or better NVMe, and this might have been interesting, although the CPU isn't anywhere near an M1 - so this dev kit as a desktop replacement was out of the question anyway.
It uses 2.5GB on my system
The big problem is that any swapping will depend on that puny little eMMC disk. Developing on a machine with 16GB can already get quite slow. This clearly is just for running your app, and then running your debugger on your workstation and connecting via network to it.
one of the main reasons qcom went with the 7c instead of a more powerful processor is because it forces devs to optimize their software to work on lower end chips.
Price is a big factor as well. Its only $219.
This seems to me the way forward for Windows given the disruption to X86 by the M1, not negative M1 ads or TH-cam calling this or that Intel of AMD processor as the 'new M1 killer'. MS may have been caught flatfooted by Apple, but you show there is plenty of potential to move to Arm efficiently. Well done.!
Is 4GB RAM enough? Most JetBrains IDEs will use that up alone.
In arm platform apps consume significantly less RAM. So it should be ok
No, it's not even close to enough. Not sure why people think that ARM64 would significantly consume less than x64 code. Heck, most modern Android smartphones come with more RAM.
@@graealex because people are looking 'one lightweight app at a time' mobiles, and thinking arm consume less ram. But in reality, the reason of x86 platform becoming popular in computers was high ram need of arm like platforms
@@nevzataydin1 Well, RISC code is less dense than CISC, although there are ways like compressed instructions to reduce that, but from my experience, that is not the majority of RAM usage anyway, so I don't see how the instruction set is going to be something that either significantly increases or decreases the memory usage of a modern (desktop) OS.
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Hi Gary,
At 6:20 you mention there is a way to install Visual Studio on the dev kit.
I tried installing it on another WoS device, but Visual Studio installer gives an error that says 32Bit and ARM devices are not supported.
Seems like Visual Studio cannot be installed on the dev kit.
7cX platform is anyway not the most powerful and dev kit is mostly for profiling and testing but did you get a chance to try it out?
@garyexplains Is there a comparison of Microsoft's Project Volterra Dev Kit vs Qualcomm's Snapdragon Dev Kit coming up?
Will the consumer version have 10/100GB ethernet instead of 10/100MB?
Will consumers be able to repair and upgrade whatever they're sold?
What do you mean by "consumer" version?
100GB Ethernet? Sure you can do it with the right hardware, but WHY would you care? 1GB is more then enough for most "consumer". I assume you mean residential or non-enterprise.
I assume @Michael Mantion that 100GB was a typo and Karen meant 10/100/1000MB.
In general is it usable in some small efficient projects too?
Surely. He says it could be used as a modest desktop replacement.
8:09 As far as i see that liva mini box costs around 220usd. And it says ‘’this product is meant for developers, not consumers”.
Sounds great, but is that HDMI port 2.0? 4k HDR capability would be nice.
When Intel nowadays using efficiency cores, actually snapdragon has been using it for ages. Snapdragons and other phone processor is way ahead of intel or amd in term of efficiency and heat dissipation
Awesome video, awesome news. Thanks a million.
Nice video Gary thanks
It’d make a great home server for people like me. Not media server or Plex server, but regular media server as long as the IO is not crippled like in most SBCs.
Qualcomm should release another version of this Development Kit that includes the newest generation of 8Cx Gen 3 processor and a minimum of 8GB RAM. The newer processor handles Windows 11 on ARM and improved emulation of x86 applications. There should be two options offered, a premium option for Developers that require faster performance and local Development on the Mini PC with Visual Studio 2022 for ARM. The cheaper version could be offered for Developers that only need it for Remote Debugging.
Wow this is a game changer! Thank you for sharing!
Would this be viable for a standalone VR HMD? Like the XR2
If that HDMI port is 2.1, (8k 120hz) then it might be. Not saying you need all that. But HDMI 2.0 is limited to 4k / 60hz, which is uncomfortable for some users. Don't know if the gpu (apu) can keep with all that.
I'm a developer of visual novels from Japan, some of which are 10-20 years old and impossible to update to a more modern architecture. I'm terrified this change will split the "Wintel" world in two and cause a zillion problems for my customers.
Some piece of software like rosetta 2 for m1 macs, will probably show up to fix this
I already publish my app as a 64 bit ARM binary for Linux. It basically needs libc, an X server and fonts. Does this mean that if a customer buys an ARM Windows device that they can already run it using Linux for Windows subsystem?
Hey Garry! Can ARM CPU be overclocked by liquid nitrogen as the x86 does? And hit clock speeds of almost double? And still remains under 100 watts.
Any processor can be overclocked. I have a video on overclocking a Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W.
How does it compare to M1? Qualcomm SoCs in phones aren't very good, so I don't have high hopes for their CPUs intended for mini desktops or laptops, either...
The Snapdragon 7c isn't the top of the range. You might be interested in my Qualcomm M1 killer video.
I tried to buy one from but Microsoft wouldn’t ship it “overseas” to Canada. Any ideas
Qualcom should also consider nano pc(pc stick) and mini pc (pc box) with their performance arm chips to test out their performance
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Product is only available in USA right now. When it is coming to India?any idea
Allowing windows arm to run on Mac would be the best. Microsoft!
I'd settle for Visual Studio 2022 running on the Mac m1. /s
Hopefully ETA Prime can get one of these and make a video on it.
Are you going to get a Microsoft Dev Kit 2023? Better ARM processor than the Qualcomm dev kit, plus 32 GB Byte RAM and upgradeable NVMe storage. Looks remarkable good value, especially when you compare with an Intel NUC! OK not quite the same levels of performance with latest Intel processor generation, but close match for 10th gen Intel i5 processor.
Couldn't help noticing you keep saying "Windows for SD", is it any difference from Window on ARM?
Well the Snapdragon includes the GPU and 5G modem, so more than just an Arm CPU.
True. So it's windows on ARM with all the drivers needed for the integrated GPU and 5G modem as well as maybe some optimizations
Windows gave up windows mobile too fast. It could have challenged Android with these ARM PC trends with mobile support. Many mild works can be done on the browser now, I use Samsung Dex for a work station sometimes and love it. MS did this first :/
Nice video, keep it up, thank you :)
How does this compare with Raspberry Pi 4B performance wise? Can i clean install Linux on this?
very happy you are saying windows on qualcomm
windows on arm is a figment of imagination.
where to buy it, Mr Gary?
can the os be reinstalled to linux for arm?
Is it possible to switch from eMMC to SSD?
Wow nice video
The other SBC that you can throw windows on your pi4b8gb a lesser GPU but it's a lower price bite .
Finally a powerful Linux arm platform
If your application is Linux, there are far more interesting boards available.
@@graealex IF? lol BSD has little to offer, the only thing you should be focursed on is developing for linux to put window in the grave where it belongs. I remember using windows 1.0 and being depressed because I knew that people would prefer it to just dos. I am not against a GUI I am against bad software. MSDOS was ok, other DOS were better. BUT WIndows has always been bad. Windows 2k was ok but certainly not good.
@@MichaelMantion Yeah, not really a big fan of religious Linux fans and getting into discussions with them. The matter of fact is that this board is only relevant if you need Windows to run. If that has no relevance for you, get a different board with more power.
@@MichaelMantion looking forward to continuing using BSD, systems is an abomination
@@graealex Are you implying Windows needs a bucket load more resources than Linux!!! Shocking.
Let’s have a drinking game for everytime Gary says “Snapdragon”
Will it run Linux?
Why they not use 7c gen 2nd.
This is win for arm64, not for snapdragon, isn't it?
While Windows for Arm64 is the generic name, at the moment no other processor is officially supported by Windows. It is Qualcomm who has put in the effort and money. Also an SoC is more than a CPU. Think about the GPU, the 4G modem, etc.
I see Gary compiling go code 😍😍😍, can we expect an upcoming video on golang?
I have often thought about doing a video on golang, but the truth is that my programming videos aren't that popular.
kind of like this...except that qualcomm in the middle there, and they have f**k up things pretty much across the board....Ok, maybe qc aren't as bad/inhibiting as I remember...
Super 👍
Is this the 2 gen 7c SoC for $219.
no 1st gen.
Wow the oerformance of that machine os low try exynos with 16gb ram it has 2 amd radeon 650 in sli config 3x8 core cpu running at 3500ghz it bettet than the box thingy
Where can you get an Exynos based PC with an AMD GPU running Windows? Link please!
@@GaryExplains ah windows you need to install on your own for example galaxy s22 ultra plus or if you really want a near pc experience galaxy tab s8 plus ,runs windows well ( for best experience you need to compile efi for that particular device or modify an similar efi go to gsm arena and check if the SoC has an DirectX support most have then you can install windows on it instalation is similar to renegade projects
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How hard is it to recompile X86 games to ARM?
Gary! this might sound strange, but could yo please try the fallout new vegas game? long story short but its related to bug in a w11 vm on the M1 macs.
Garry I'm not happy with today review on time line 1:12, u said window is compiled for arm 64. With out showing the download site for that. I am interested in downloading win 10 arm for my Android phone natively. I don't have the resources for this kit.
You can't download Windows 10 for your smartphone. A smartphone and a PC/laptop are very different things.
Good video
Where can I pick one up?
I see I can get one from Microsoft, although not available in UK, you can even get a discount if your a parent 🤓👍
Can it run android ??
Sir we want
ARM BASED 64 bit processor
Which can handle windows 10 os
And with gpu inbuild
And it will be a new Era
this Era already started.
Which less cost as a mini pc .
Why didn't they use the 8cx?
Or 7c 2nd gen.
Or 7c 2nd gen.
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But how powerful is it
A bit late to the party, but still exciting!! If only if were a bit more powerful
Very good
I want one
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Looks interesting for "development", but for the price you can get a decent tablet or laptop that is arm based, ha the same power and a screen, touch pad, keyboard and battery. I love arm but this isn't that much more powerful then other stuff out there.
Good videos
Looks boss.
The price is still a bit steep but not terrible.
Love your videos. Could you benchmark Minecraft there? Thanks
Still I can't install apk on windows.
Wish there was more RAM, I do a lot of Docker works…
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I know nothing about ARM but 4GB if memory seems pretty tight for serious development. There are ways to squeeze down the size and ARM is different in terms of memory utilization but who wants to play stupid games like that in 2021? Is the memory expandable? At that price why not get an 8GB Raspberry Pi, which is also ARM, also runs Windows and save yourself $50-$100? Am I missing something?
You see… the thing is…
Raspberry pi’s are fun :P
“Other brands are known to do!”
Other brands don’t sell an under-powered non-useful kit for 219!
Other brands lend a highly specced fully working computer before anybody else lays hand on, with the condition to return it back when mainstream computers are available to the public.
Other brands = 1 main very well-known pioneer brand who started and is leading this transition to the ARM architecture.
But the name is difficult to pronounce, because it brings sourness to everybody else and to all other brands, lol 😂
Also felt the was super disingenuous. But expected from a total android fanboy tool
Finally!!!!!!
Hey, we understand Qualcomm sponsored the video. But you don't need to make that obvious by calling it Windows on Qualcomm over and over. It's Windows on ARM (WoA). Keep it that way.
Name me one other SoC that officially supports Windows? What about things like the GPU or 4G modem that are part of the processor. Are they Arm or Snapdragon?
It doesn't look like Qualcomm has any chip to compete with apple m1 chip.
Snapdragon and pc!?
Give shade on apple for having to return the developer kit and get a refund. And at least the apple developer kit was bound to give real world feedback since its all moving... lets see how many apps are native in 6 months on winblows for arm ;)
Dammit I want one with Linux on it.... But Qualcomm... 😞💣
Wait? What? You buy something and you get to KEEP IT? Are they CRAZY? :D
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Can it run Overwatch?
4GB RAM lol - WSL with that amount of RAM is complete fail
Veryy good