The boring part of such choice is that the story itself makes it clear that the ability was an example of terrible usage of nem. Perhaps the ranking would be more interesting as "worst abilities (that are not portrayed as bad examples) of relevant characters"
I mean, Dio has distinctly different perspective in these things, in part 6 he's talking about people's fate's and place in the universe - in his eyes there is no such thing as weak nor strong, because we all have our parts in life to play and strengths based around that purpose (which is arguable in real life, but in JoJo's fate is canonically a thing so it makes more sense). A stand, or in this case Hatsu, is then a manifestation of these strengths to guide you along the fate set out for you, whatever it may be, can't be "weak", for it is always what it needs to be Which is cool and all, but doesn't change the fact that you don't wanna be the guy whose fate is to kill themselves for Camilla or to get clapped by Morel
I'd say an honorable mention would be Killua's god speed. Sure its super useful and powerful for him - but that's only because hes immune to electricity. Any normal person would be frying themselves the moment they activated the ability
I think the way I would make a list like this would be to consider what a nen ability sets out to do, how effective it is at achieving that purpose and how useful said ability is in the context of the HxH world.
At least choose something that are already hard or untrainable. Controlling cats would have been more impressive. The bees girl and snake guy had it better. If only they were smarter. Bees are smaller and can be hidden and comes in numbers. Snakes is just a straight nope for most people. A smart person having those abilities will go a long way compared to a smart guy controlling dogs--unless he can control thousands of dogs.
I imagine you have to practice your hatsu at least a couple times to mold it into your ideal ability. Think about Camila though. She basically had to get it perfect the first time she ever used it. She’s built different.
I think that if you gave Kastro another 5 years, he would have been a menace. He neglected his core affinity and at the same time made an ability more complex than he could handle. With enough training to fix both of those issues, he'd have been a serious threat. Remember that Hisoka is like, top 10 human Nen users, and Kastro took off both his arms.
I think Kastro making his clone is proof of his talent. Even Hanzo has to use conditions to make his clone and he has 20% more efficency. He probably would be top tier had he been smarter.
@@TheBleachj16You hit the nail in the head - had Castro been smarter. There are characters that thrive in HxH not because they are very powerful nen users, but because they are really intelligent and can utilize their ability to fit the scenario into their favor.
It is nice to have these examples in the verse of poorly thought out or poorly designed abilities because it feels far more realistic in a verse where people make their own custom powers. Some people will be impulsive make something like a basic sword like Kurapika’s teacher mentioned they don’t actually think on what they want. It also can be used to show a characters novice-ness like Cheetu or Morena’s minions who just recently awakened to Nen and developed quick cheap abilities. Especially during the succession war arc tho a third use of this narratively is for people with simple aspirations or singular roles of a team. Many guards in the succession war have very specific and one note abilities and it fits that not everyone needs to be some versatile adventurer or unstoppable force they have simple abilities for intel, assasination, protection, and other things to benefit their role in a team. One guys ability is even theorized to just be manipulating himself to look like a non nen user, sounds boring and one note due to all the extravagant characters we see but most people even those who learn nen wanna have simpler lives so their basic abilities make more sense
The ability that always makes me laugh is Bungie Gum. Really think about it, if you explained to someone the dynamics and utility of Bungie Gum as a Nen ability who knows nothing about Hisoka or this universe, they'd tell you it sounds weak and easy to beat. Yet Hisoka has managed to use a very basic ability to fight and survive various encounters, which in some cases seems completely unbelievable. Yet the man who has the ability of both "rubber and gum" is not someone anyone wants to fight with and/or must prepare for. To me, Bungie Gum(along with the rediculous sounding "texture surprise") is by far the worst and best technique simultaneously in Hunter x Hunter for a character who we still really don't know much about aside from, what appears to be, orgasmic attraction to chaos, near-death experiences, and Gon. If you can't tell already, I hate, enjoy, appreciate, and find ridiculous Hisoka's character all at once. He's a perpetual wild card in Hunter x Hunter. I suppose that's the hallmark of a well written character.
Yes of course great take, it’s just being able to give context to these abilities. Like Luffy if you’ve ever watch One Piece how could rubber be useful against powers such as light or ice? The utilization of using a rubber body to pump blood to be used like doping is in our world it’s definitely context that helps. But you’re right hope all is well!
4:00 Just because you can't physically enter a body as a human doesn't mean you couldn't do it with Nen. Nen is very flexible. For example Rihan's Predator way of function is it eats the manifestation of Nen, however it still works against abilities without a physical manifestation like those from Enhancers and Emitters.
1) Nen exorcising in general 2) Copy abilities (the conditions-to-use ratio usually suck) excluding steal chain due to the zetsu side effect being a win-con 3) Shoot, hotel rashoman (or whatever it was called) it’s cool but if I have to make direct contact anyways I’d rather just do smth else 4) controlling snakes/bees etc. 5) ikalgo body snatching depending on how long a body holds up. If you can just rock it indefinitely regardless of how they died, he could technically snatch Meruems body.
I seriously forgot that Cheetu's nen ability was that crossbow... He could probably run faster than the projectiles it shoot. Plus HE ALREADY HAS CLAWS LIKE WHAT DOES HE NEED THOSE FOR!!? Anyways, banger video as always! I completely agree with your list, personally if I were to make a bottom five for my personal use I might swap out Cats Name for The 100-type Boddhisatva as I don't have the speed to use it properly.
His first hatsu was the conjured tag game in which touching Cheetu means he lost, so the claws on the improvised crossbow hatsu were there so Cheetu could attack Morel without having to touch him. And yes, he DOES run faster than the crossbow bolts, which Morel points out after parrying one and calls him an idiot for.
The funniest part about the crossbow to me is that it demonstrates Cheetu is incredibly skilled at using Nen, but he's too shortsighted and cocky to make use of his own talent. When I say skilled, keep in mind how much effort, attention, and dedication is involved in learning to conjure an object. Cheetu spawned a unique weapon in a split second.
@@catormw Ah! Always the small details I miss, I forgot which ability he got first... and don't remember the scene with Morel you mention. Imma have to rewatch HxH
Dont forget about scissor hand guy from greed island. It might be useful if you’re in a group but the way he works alone its just doesnt help him much if thats your sole ability.
I think the worst one for me personally - while not a specific person's Hatsu is still a Nen ability - would be the Risky Dice from Greed Island. The ability to conjure good luck with a dice roll is remarkable even by Hunter x Hunter standards, but dying due to a critical failure... that's a lot. Like, having Cheetu's abilities would almost be as sad as being Cheetu, but I can just choose never to use them and while it's a waste of a superpower I didn't technically incur any harm. The dice though, I'd always be tempted to use them like it was The One Ring in my pocket, causing deep anxiety.
Camilla's is perfect for someone in a royal family who may be the target of attacks and things but worthless for most people unless you're up to some sketchy stuff lol.
The problem with Camillas cat hatsu is it forces your opponent to wound and maim you so you’re incapacitated but not dead. No need to get the kitty cat revive if you’re arms and legs are crushed the dad from the oblongs
We have only seen it once and nowhere was it stated that she has to first explain her ability for it to take effect. The condition for activation is her death. It would take an extremely smart opponent to figure it out prior to killing her. They have to at least witness her being killed a few times. Her ability is like that of Tserreidnich which unless explained the opponent won't really have an immediate understanding even having it experienced more than once. Theta was simply left confused thinking she had succeeded in killing him. The same thing will happen to most witnesses. They'll more likely assume a different activation condition like "attacking first gets you killed" or something else. And by then unless Camilla explains it most will try to avoid attacking her directly after seeing that trying to kill her/killing her will also end up in your death.
3:42 (Minor One Piece Dressrosa spoilers) Literally like the Jacket-Jacket fruit. Doesn’t matter if you’re being worn by Kaido or Whitebeard. You aren’t in control so it’s pretty lame.
I think people forget you can have more than one ability. If you're skilled enough you could have the revival cat and another ability. Like bungie gum and texture surprise. BG is his main ability but he keeps TS around because of it's utility. Have whatever your main ability is then have the cat as an a plan b.
Yeah it usually doesn't happen since developing a hatsu is a rough task (maybe not that much if you are and enhancer and are kind of like Uvo and Gon), it takes a long time and a focused mindset on what you wanna do but technically you can have as much ability as you want, the prime example would be ging wich has who knows how much abilitys via just replicating them via skill
well the things is Camilla has to be in zetsu for the cat ability to work, and that’s why it’s so one not that prevents her from using any other abilities cause she has no access to nen. So she’s a one trick pony if you know what her ability is
@@Masi0838 I think most nen users(the ones strong enough to be relevent atleast) are more than capable of it they just choose not too. Most tend to just min max their main ability. That's not inherntly bad but they loose alot of versatility especilly by not dipping into neighboring catagories like Hisoka does.
@@ShadowFox10587O Personally I like to think that a lot of the characters we see do actually have several small quality of life hatsu's, like how Bisky made herself cuter, they just tend to be niche and as such didn't have time or oppurtunity to show up After all, most nen users we see are hunters, not necessarily fighters, I don't think that a person determined enough to look for marine life or treasures would waste all their "magic" potential on just "killing good", especially since passing the exam already kinda implies that you were pretty good at killing good by that point anyway
@@ShadowFox10587O yeah they definitelly can but most probably see it as not worth it since that time they use to create another hatsu could be used as you say to minmax their main one, on top of that i think what also could make it hard is that when you create a hatsu it mostly is a representation of yourself, like, it is based on what you want and your personality if you get what i mean so creating another hatsu would need for you to have a different mindset and completely different aproach to your nen (all of this in the case that the new hatsu has nothing to do with the previous)
I tend to look at lists/questions like this based on me, as I am, but in that setting. I have no interest in fighting, so for me, basically, any combat use only Nen ability is in this list. Nen arrows? Nope. Nen punches? Get out. Etc. I want something that makes my daily life easier and more enjoyable. I'd also personally toss out all the stereotypical manipulator abilities. I wouldn't feel morally or ethically okay with that.
Well, the cat "immortal" ability sounds nice... Until you realise a suicide ability completely negates the ability. As in who will the cat siphon the life off from, if the attacker is already dead?
chrollo def its basically impossible to land his ability on anyone but the people who have learned nen in a few days but they have trash abilities and if the user dies he cant use the ability anymore
My only thing is, if netero did go to dark continent twice; why did he die to a chimera ant that was only ranked B compared to most creatures of the dark continent. 🤔
The ants are lvl b but meruem and the Royal guard is higher. The only reason the ants gave so much trouble is because of Pariston creating a queen with human genome and putting it in a place away from technology and hunters.
Worst ability has to be komugi’s. She’s literally the greatest being in the verse, at one particular board game. Sure it ended up playing a part in changing Meruem but the ability itself has no actual utility.
It has insane utility in normal life though. You have a cheatcode to free money by being the world champion at the game. She was able to financially support a family of, I forget how many (10??), people just from the money made playing the game. Thats pretty fucking useful if you ask me
What would your list be?
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Cheetu’s dumbass crossbow should have been at number 1 tbh
The boring part of such choice is that the story itself makes it clear that the ability was an example of terrible usage of nem. Perhaps the ranking would be more interesting as "worst abilities (that are not portrayed as bad examples) of relevant characters"
It's like DIO said, there's no such thing as a "weak Stand"
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I mean, Dio has distinctly different perspective in these things, in part 6 he's talking about people's fate's and place in the universe - in his eyes there is no such thing as weak nor strong, because we all have our parts in life to play and strengths based around that purpose (which is arguable in real life, but in JoJo's fate is canonically a thing so it makes more sense). A stand, or in this case Hatsu, is then a manifestation of these strengths to guide you along the fate set out for you, whatever it may be, can't be "weak", for it is always what it needs to be
Which is cool and all, but doesn't change the fact that you don't wanna be the guy whose fate is to kill themselves for Camilla or to get clapped by Morel
@@dredvax hey yah allowed Pocoloco to win the steel ball race
"But if I had to pick one, it would be survivor"
He's wrong
There was also that Hei-ly guy who just conjured a hammer on his arm. Another example of someone conjuring a weapon they can buy.
I'd say an honorable mention would be Killua's god speed. Sure its super useful and powerful for him - but that's only because hes immune to electricity. Any normal person would be frying themselves the moment they activated the ability
I can imagine some minion of morena developing it only to just fall to the ground stiff and electrocuting everyone who is trying to help him.
I think the way I would make a list like this would be to consider what a nen ability sets out to do, how effective it is at achieving that purpose and how useful said ability is in the context of the HxH world.
Squala that controls domestic dogs...
yea that ones pretty bad when you could make a better
At least choose something that are already hard or untrainable. Controlling cats would have been more impressive. The bees girl and snake guy had it better. If only they were smarter. Bees are smaller and can be hidden and comes in numbers. Snakes is just a straight nope for most people. A smart person having those abilities will go a long way compared to a smart guy controlling dogs--unless he can control thousands of dogs.
@@angrymeowngi bee girl and snake guy weren't even using nen, that makes the dog guy even less impressive 😂
I imagine you have to practice your hatsu at least a couple times to mold it into your ideal ability. Think about Camila though. She basically had to get it perfect the first time she ever used it. She’s built different.
I think that if you gave Kastro another 5 years, he would have been a menace. He neglected his core affinity and at the same time made an ability more complex than he could handle. With enough training to fix both of those issues, he'd have been a serious threat.
Remember that Hisoka is like, top 10 human Nen users, and Kastro took off both his arms.
I think Kastro making his clone is proof of his talent. Even Hanzo has to use conditions to make his clone and he has 20% more efficency. He probably would be top tier had he been smarter.
@@TheBleachj16You hit the nail in the head - had Castro been smarter. There are characters that thrive in HxH not because they are very powerful nen users, but because they are really intelligent and can utilize their ability to fit the scenario into their favor.
It is nice to have these examples in the verse of poorly thought out or poorly designed abilities because it feels far more realistic in a verse where people make their own custom powers. Some people will be impulsive make something like a basic sword like Kurapika’s teacher mentioned they don’t actually think on what they want. It also can be used to show a characters novice-ness like Cheetu or Morena’s minions who just recently awakened to Nen and developed quick cheap abilities. Especially during the succession war arc tho a third use of this narratively is for people with simple aspirations or singular roles of a team. Many guards in the succession war have very specific and one note abilities and it fits that not everyone needs to be some versatile adventurer or unstoppable force they have simple abilities for intel, assasination, protection, and other things to benefit their role in a team. One guys ability is even theorized to just be manipulating himself to look like a non nen user, sounds boring and one note due to all the extravagant characters we see but most people even those who learn nen wanna have simpler lives so their basic abilities make more sense
The ability that always makes me laugh is Bungie Gum. Really think about it, if you explained to someone the dynamics and utility of Bungie Gum as a Nen ability who knows nothing about Hisoka or this universe, they'd tell you it sounds weak and easy to beat. Yet Hisoka has managed to use a very basic ability to fight and survive various encounters, which in some cases seems completely unbelievable. Yet the man who has the ability of both "rubber and gum" is not someone anyone wants to fight with and/or must prepare for.
To me, Bungie Gum(along with the rediculous sounding "texture surprise") is by far the worst and best technique simultaneously in Hunter x Hunter for a character who we still really don't know much about aside from, what appears to be, orgasmic attraction to chaos, near-death experiences, and Gon.
If you can't tell already, I hate, enjoy, appreciate, and find ridiculous Hisoka's character all at once. He's a perpetual wild card in Hunter x Hunter. I suppose that's the hallmark of a well written character.
Yes of course great take, it’s just being able to give context to these abilities. Like Luffy if you’ve ever watch One Piece how could rubber be useful against powers such as light or ice? The utilization of using a rubber body to pump blood to be used like doping is in our world it’s definitely context that helps. But you’re right hope all is well!
4:00 Just because you can't physically enter a body as a human doesn't mean you couldn't do it with Nen. Nen is very flexible. For example Rihan's Predator way of function is it eats the manifestation of Nen, however it still works against abilities without a physical manifestation like those from Enhancers and Emitters.
1) Nen exorcising in general
2) Copy abilities (the conditions-to-use ratio usually suck) excluding steal chain due to the zetsu side effect being a win-con
3) Shoot, hotel rashoman (or whatever it was called) it’s cool but if I have to make direct contact anyways I’d rather just do smth else
4) controlling snakes/bees etc.
5) ikalgo body snatching depending on how long a body holds up. If you can just rock it indefinitely regardless of how they died, he could technically snatch Meruems body.
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The cat ability is shit. Give Feitan 5 min and she offs herself.
Another one could be the ability that one of morena's goons had, the one that let him morph his hands into tools wich he used to murder
I seriously forgot that Cheetu's nen ability was that crossbow... He could probably run faster than the projectiles it shoot. Plus HE ALREADY HAS CLAWS LIKE WHAT DOES HE NEED THOSE FOR!!? Anyways, banger video as always! I completely agree with your list, personally if I were to make a bottom five for my personal use I might swap out Cats Name for The 100-type Boddhisatva as I don't have the speed to use it properly.
His first hatsu was the conjured tag game in which touching Cheetu means he lost, so the claws on the improvised crossbow hatsu were there so Cheetu could attack Morel without having to touch him. And yes, he DOES run faster than the crossbow bolts, which Morel points out after parrying one and calls him an idiot for.
The funniest part about the crossbow to me is that it demonstrates Cheetu is incredibly skilled at using Nen, but he's too shortsighted and cocky to make use of his own talent. When I say skilled, keep in mind how much effort, attention, and dedication is involved in learning to conjure an object. Cheetu spawned a unique weapon in a split second.
@@catormw Ah! Always the small details I miss, I forgot which ability he got first... and don't remember the scene with Morel you mention. Imma have to rewatch HxH
Dont forget about scissor hand guy from greed island. It might be useful if you’re in a group but the way he works alone its just doesnt help him much if thats your sole ability.
I just watched your best nen abilities list. Perfect timing
I think the worst one for me personally - while not a specific person's Hatsu is still a Nen ability - would be the Risky Dice from Greed Island. The ability to conjure good luck with a dice roll is remarkable even by Hunter x Hunter standards, but dying due to a critical failure... that's a lot. Like, having Cheetu's abilities would almost be as sad as being Cheetu, but I can just choose never to use them and while it's a waste of a superpower I didn't technically incur any harm. The dice though, I'd always be tempted to use them like it was The One Ring in my pocket, causing deep anxiety.
The Cat ability is op as shit.
I think instead of “worst” you need to say, “poorly thought out”. But that doesn’t click bait as well 🤷♀️
That guy from Greed Island who eats hair in order to learn about a person’s physical abilities has got to have the worst nen ability
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Camilla's is perfect for someone in a royal family who may be the target of attacks and things but worthless for most people unless you're up to some sketchy stuff lol.
The problem with Camillas cat hatsu is it forces your opponent to wound and maim you so you’re incapacitated but not dead. No need to get the kitty cat revive if you’re arms and legs are crushed the dad from the oblongs
We have only seen it once and nowhere was it stated that she has to first explain her ability for it to take effect. The condition for activation is her death. It would take an extremely smart opponent to figure it out prior to killing her. They have to at least witness her being killed a few times. Her ability is like that of Tserreidnich which unless explained the opponent won't really have an immediate understanding even having it experienced more than once. Theta was simply left confused thinking she had succeeded in killing him. The same thing will happen to most witnesses. They'll more likely assume a different activation condition like "attacking first gets you killed" or something else. And by then unless Camilla explains it most will try to avoid attacking her directly after seeing that trying to kill her/killing her will also end up in your death.
@ ….When did I say she has to explain it?
3:42 (Minor One Piece Dressrosa spoilers)
Literally like the Jacket-Jacket fruit. Doesn’t matter if you’re being worn by Kaido or Whitebeard. You aren’t in control so it’s pretty lame.
Y'all need to hear me out for prince Camila..Cuz why no one else saying this...!
Idk how he would learn about it, but if chrollo can steal camillas ability thats all he needs to beat hisoka
I think people forget you can have more than one ability. If you're skilled enough you could have the revival cat and another ability. Like bungie gum and texture surprise. BG is his main ability but he keeps TS around because of it's utility. Have whatever your main ability is then have the cat as an a plan b.
Yeah it usually doesn't happen since developing a hatsu is a rough task (maybe not that much if you are and enhancer and are kind of like Uvo and Gon), it takes a long time and a focused mindset on what you wanna do but technically you can have as much ability as you want, the prime example would be ging wich has who knows how much abilitys via just replicating them via skill
well the things is Camilla has to be in zetsu for the cat ability to work, and that’s why it’s so one not that prevents her from using any other abilities cause she has no access to nen. So she’s a one trick pony if you know what her ability is
@@Masi0838 I think most nen users(the ones strong enough to be relevent atleast) are more than capable of it they just choose not too. Most tend to just min max their main ability. That's not inherntly bad but they loose alot of versatility especilly by not dipping into neighboring catagories like Hisoka does.
@@ShadowFox10587O Personally I like to think that a lot of the characters we see do actually have several small quality of life hatsu's, like how Bisky made herself cuter, they just tend to be niche and as such didn't have time or oppurtunity to show up
After all, most nen users we see are hunters, not necessarily fighters, I don't think that a person determined enough to look for marine life or treasures would waste all their "magic" potential on just "killing good", especially since passing the exam already kinda implies that you were pretty good at killing good by that point anyway
@@ShadowFox10587O yeah they definitelly can but most probably see it as not worth it since that time they use to create another hatsu could be used as you say to minmax their main one, on top of that i think what also could make it hard is that when you create a hatsu it mostly is a representation of yourself, like, it is based on what you want and your personality if you get what i mean so creating another hatsu would need for you to have a different mindset and completely different aproach to your nen (all of this in the case that the new hatsu has nothing to do with the previous)
I tend to look at lists/questions like this based on me, as I am, but in that setting. I have no interest in fighting, so for me, basically, any combat use only Nen ability is in this list. Nen arrows? Nope. Nen punches? Get out. Etc. I want something that makes my daily life easier and more enjoyable. I'd also personally toss out all the stereotypical manipulator abilities. I wouldn't feel morally or ethically okay with that.
Well, the cat "immortal" ability sounds nice... Until you realise a suicide ability completely negates the ability. As in who will the cat siphon the life off from, if the attacker is already dead?
God made her she is and if she is suicidal, god made her do it. So she effectively kills god everytime she kills herself.
chrollo def its basically impossible to land his ability on anyone but the people who have learned nen in a few days but they have trash abilities and if the user dies he cant use the ability anymore
My only thing is, if netero did go to dark continent twice; why did he die to a chimera ant that was only ranked B compared to most creatures of the dark continent. 🤔
He probably got lucky and didn't encounter nothing on Meruen's level + He was younger and probably stronger
The ants are lvl b but meruem and the Royal guard is higher. The only reason the ants gave so much trouble is because of Pariston creating a queen with human genome and putting it in a place away from technology and hunters.
Bill for sure 😅
Camilla is the most OP
Where is rika
Soon. It has been 7 minutes this time. MUAHAHAHAHA
Worst ability has to be komugi’s. She’s literally the greatest being in the verse, at one particular board game. Sure it ended up playing a part in changing Meruem but the ability itself has no actual utility.
real
It has insane utility in normal life though. You have a cheatcode to free money by being the world champion at the game. She was able to financially support a family of, I forget how many (10??), people just from the money made playing the game. Thats pretty fucking useful if you ask me
It literally has a utility and it's the best for her , yeah it's not good for combat . She would never fight anyone anyways
could potentially make a lot of money with it though 👀
@@enotsnavdier6867 She was able to do that before her ability manifested, but yes it would be useful to anyone who suddenly gained the ability.