That's because all of these "face paint and cartoons" history videos are nothing but far right pro pa ganda gar bage... the ACTUAL Indo Europeans were the haplo group I (Neo lithic) and haplo group j2 (Bronze age) peoples from Anatolia, as simple as that..... "ancient d n a" is nothing but an assump tion based, artificially "reconstructed" genome, not grounded in facts.
I think this is an excellent production BUT the music detracts hugely and makes me want to turn it OFF. If you do another program I truly hope you mute the background music.
Sounds like Nera was tripping. Ate some moldy wheat, fell asleep and woke up in a beautiful garden but thought he'd been away for a year. The whole thing reminds me of The Wizard of Oz!
One reality that archaeologists encounter all over the world is that, up until the relatively recent past, most populations lived comparatively short lives. In the US the colonial population and the indigenous populations had, on the whole, similar mortality structures with a modal age of death at about 35, just as described here. It is not until modern medicine and dentistry that you see life spans extending, and even then, the effects are differential based upon socioeconomics.
@@user-js7ek9oh3p You are confusing a parameter that can be found in a sample, but in an indeterminate-sized population can only be guessed at. "Maximum" age is essentially mythical. You can draw multiple large samples, and each sample is likely to have a different maximum age at death. The average human life span has increased because mean and modal ages of death have both increased. I can say with great confidence that indigenous American populations had the same modal ages of death as European colonists. This changes later in the 19th century. But, from mortuary populations I've worked on, their maximum age of death has, in fact, increased since the beginning of the 20th century. Before the turn of the twentieth century, very few indigenous populations saw any member reach their sixties. So, not only was the average age of death increased, from skeletal evidence indicates that their maximum age of death appears to have increased as well. Now you might be waving your hands and and saying you meant "the entire human race," but we do not have useful data on the "entire human race." I understand your point, but it cannot be supported archaeologically.
I read that St Patrick driving the snakes out of Ireland wasn't literally snakes but the peopl worshipped a snake god or serpent god. They said there wasn't snakes in Ireland to begin with.
According to most experts snakes most likely haven't lived in Ireland since before the last Ice Age. This could have been true for the whole of the British Isles but while Ireland remained an island, the Island of Great Britain was part of today's continental Europe until the land (Doggerland) that connected it was wiped out and flooded forever by a massive tsunami. The tsunami was generated by the Storegga submarine landslide off the Norwegian coast which failed around 8150 years ago. As the glaciers retreated about 10,000 years ago, animals and plants were able to recolonise land that had been covered with ice, migrating across Doggerland from Europe. However, they could not reach Ireland because the Irish Sea was too big (and too salty) an obstacle for the three British species of snake, so Ireland remained snake-free. Except for the occasional accidentally-introduced snake, New Zealand doesn't have any either. The legend of St. Patrick driving all of Ireland’s snakes into the sea is just a myth, as they were never there in the first place.
@@thefarmgirl30just stop. Believe what you want but mind your own business and stop telling others what they should or shouldn't believe or feel. Its gross.
Bit confusing. I thought part 1 & 2 would be more about ancient DNA. It didn't even give the DNA results. Bunch of assumptions on assumptions. I also believe they make the claim these ancient people went extinct at least on part 1 the guys with the blue eyes. Not sure I agree. The blue eyed people where Western hunter gatherers. The second group where Neolithic farmers. These groups are not extinct. All modern Europeans have both of these DNA admixtures plus Steppe herder (Yamnaya people).
Lots of WHG and EEF genes still exist in Europeans, but the Y-haplogroup is almost all R1 (Indo-European). This documentary doesn't get into this, because it probably indicates that the Indo-Europeans killed the men as they conquered.
@@O.M.G.Puppies All Europeans have W.H.G, E.E.F & A.N.E (Yamnaya). The Max Planck institute covers this topic in great detail. The thing is these 3 components where already present ar least 45,000 years ago. "Upper Paleolithic genome reveals deep roots of modern Eurasians". That's the study if you're interested. Apparently these Europeans spread out got isolated because of the last glacial maximum. Then we basically reunite after the L.G.M. This is where the current mainstream narrative starts. They tell us how the E.E.F left Anatolia and went into W.H.G territory and formed a new people then lastly the Yamnaya spread out everywhere and they were the last group that mixed in and that's how all modern Europeans came to be. These 3 genitic components are shared by all Europeans today just in different ratios. But the story being told why apparently true leaves out the fact that these were already 1 people. They just met back up. Modern Europeans have at least 45,000 years of genetic continuity probably a lot longer. Thanks to ancient DNA we can learn the truth.
Exactly,, The Christian Church is a very well-organized 'Power Structure', similar to the one in which Jesus was completely against, and was attempting to free the Jews from the corruption of the Temple Pharisees & Priests, who kept the Jews in bondage with Laws & Taxes. The Romans adopted 'The Church' because it was more simple & successful at controlling the people. The Pagans were ripe for conversion.
I agree. Very strange they skipped over the Step peoples migration into Europe which is the majority of European DNA as well as being a huge part of European history to go straight into the Christian period is very odd and doesn't make sense.
I wonder... these "differently buried" bodies, has anybody been able to get their DNA? Did these poor people have children or other relatives who are ancesstors of living people today?
Oh I,m sure.Relatives in Germany became Christians when St.Boniface hit them upside the head with a cross In Hungary, momma's side became Christians when St.Stephen King of Hungary did the same.Have protestant relatives on both sides, going back to Martin Luther and John Calvin.
sorry to see the huge gap in timeline between the two parts of this documentary. Also, the info on the DNA results is pretty sparse. what is included is quite interesting though. thanks for posting
Can you please make a video that proves scientists can see DNA and can study the genes in it as well? I keep asking all over the web, but no one has yet been able to.
I wish I had my festivals still. I have Halloween, Winter Solstice, and just barely Ostara and Summer Solstice, but the others are too vague and have faded away. I always dreamed of finding a pagan group to bring them back to life.
But alas, according to scripture the common accepted date of god creating earth is 5000bc. He then flooded the earth according to scriptures in 2350bc. Let that sink in and then i leave you with this...the great pyramid.. .It was built by Khufu (Cheops), the second king of Egypt's 4th dynasty (c. 2543-c. 2436 bce), and was completed in the early 25th century bce
You are taking this as fact. Most of the Bible was written after it happened and a lot of the stories are unprovable. But not only that, it has been tinkered with by later Christian’s to fit the narrative of power staying within the church system.
@@dennistracy1535 lol isn't amazing how god killed everyone associated with the pryramids. Just wow. How Noah knew about the Adélie penguins of Antartica. Simply amazing since we are told we were not seafaring peoples back then. I wonder how he kept them alive in the heat if the middle east for a year while the water receeded. Ahhh I love fables so much
As a non-Christian this makes me sad. We lost so much to the spreading of Christianity. I personally find it gross why they think they need to force what they believe on others. It's still happening today with missionaries. Just stop. Believe what you want, fine, but stop obliterating other cultures.
the graveyard finds just make me think of "civilizeations" ( which are not very civilized ) simply for the reason that they didn't understand population mathematics. and then trying to justify living human disposal practices, which evolve in the absence of any clear thought to the matter, that the living can still manage to get what they need. but then you look closer, and you always find some likely did understand what the problem was ...... population mathematics are like the laws of nature, if people overshoot the capacity, the lessor remaining capacity is absolutely merciless.. I have got decades in trying to restore ethical access to biological parenthood ....I am not a bad person for that, and I have had all my legal bases covered. it's just that restoring ethical access, to that human right, requires limiting those most prolific that plan to continue exploiting it ....that's where the slander comes from ... "people" like that, and sadistic people who enjoy raping my mind, endlessly. no human right can be protected from unlimited individual over-exploration of the human right to create humans with rights. when I tell people to stop, I just mean stop. but to them, that means I created a mortal crime, because they take my saying stop and put it behind an existing human with rights, ( that's not what I was saying ), OR they don't stop, and act like I don't know a human with rights when I see one. the created person is a human with rights
Tombs or temples facing east as the sun rises is not pagan… God had the Israelites build the tabernacle and the temple facing east with the rising sun; this would have been passed on when Ireland was populated, from lands east. Quartz in the burials may have just been ones way to leave a token to remember there loved one, much like people today who leave trinkets or pics in a casket. Nothing pagan
@@CheeseSteakJimiyawn our Iron Age and Bronze Age ancestors. The Celts all the way back to the indo-Europeans. Christianity destroyed many European cultures. Causing us to lose the rich culture of our ancient ancestors.
@@thomasnelson7869 no you're not an "'American''... not when we talk about so back in time... but I do agree with your ''wish''... the ''eastern'' religion managed to conquer the Western cultures... bringing the Dark Ages, that we barely start to leave behind us...
But you're speaking within the context of a distinctly Christian yoke, of European narration, with a repetitive history of anti-Jewish persecution. Mind your gap of logic.
@@user-McGiver Esus Esus, Esos, Hesus, or Aisus was a Celtic god who was worshipped primarily in ancient Gaul and Britain. He is known from two monumental statues and a line in Lucan's Bellum civile. Source=Wikipedia. Not charge for the education.
Chronology is quite strange: Part 1 ends with the demise of megalithique society, Part 2 starts with christianity...
Megalithic
you're right!... the first part was relevant... the second was irrelevant and indifferent
That's because all of these "face paint and cartoons" history videos are nothing but far right pro pa ganda gar bage... the ACTUAL Indo Europeans were the haplo group I (Neo lithic) and haplo group j2 (Bronze age) peoples from Anatolia, as simple as that..... "ancient d n a" is nothing but an assump tion based, artificially "reconstructed" genome, not grounded in facts.
@@user-McGiver Thank you, Mr Butthoort.
@@noginsHuh?
Umm no
Indo European R1b-R1a-i1 Ydna
Neolithic Ireland was G2
The loud music sure makes the negation hard to hear . I would love to listen . But the music makes it impossible 😢😢😢😢😢
I think this is an excellent production BUT the music detracts hugely and makes me want to turn it OFF. If you do another program I truly hope you mute the background music.
What does all this (religion, feasts & so on) have to do with DNA?
Part 1 was mostly about DNA in Scotland and Ireland
you're right!... the first part was relevant... the second was irrelevant and indifferent
Subtle undermining of Chriatianity
The DNA WAS NOT LOST ! It remained undiscovered .
😀
@2:30 St. Patrick 5th century, was not the first. St. Alban and St. Gohban were mid 3rd to early 4th century.
@2:30 didn't say St. Patrick was the first but thanks for sharing.
@NONANTI ty...I could have worded that better huh? 🤗
Sounds like Nera was tripping. Ate some moldy wheat, fell asleep and woke up in a beautiful garden but thought he'd been away for a year. The whole thing reminds me of The Wizard of Oz!
🎶We're off to see the Wizard, the Wonderful Wizard of Oz! 🎶
One reality that archaeologists encounter all over the world is that, up until the relatively recent past, most populations lived comparatively short lives. In the US the colonial population and the indigenous populations had, on the whole, similar mortality structures with a modal age of death at about 35, just as described here. It is not until modern medicine and dentistry that you see life spans extending, and even then, the effects are differential based upon socioeconomics.
The average age of humans has been extended but the maximum age has remained the same, in spite of science, medicine & dentistry.
@@user-js7ek9oh3p You are confusing a parameter that can be found in a sample, but in an indeterminate-sized population can only be guessed at. "Maximum" age is essentially mythical. You can draw multiple large samples, and each sample is likely to have a different maximum age at death. The average human life span has increased because mean and modal ages of death have both increased.
I can say with great confidence that indigenous American populations had the same modal ages of death as European colonists. This changes later in the 19th century. But, from mortuary populations I've worked on, their maximum age of death has, in fact, increased since the beginning of the 20th century. Before the turn of the twentieth century, very few indigenous populations saw any member reach their sixties. So, not only was the average age of death increased, from skeletal evidence indicates that their maximum age of death appears to have increased as well. Now you might be waving your hands and and saying you meant "the entire human race," but we do not have useful data on the "entire human race." I understand your point, but it cannot be supported archaeologically.
I read that St Patrick driving the snakes out of Ireland wasn't literally snakes but the peopl worshipped a snake god or serpent god. They said there wasn't snakes in Ireland to begin with.
According to most experts snakes most likely haven't lived in Ireland since before the last Ice Age. This could have been true for the whole of the British Isles but while Ireland remained an island, the Island of Great Britain was part of today's continental Europe until the land (Doggerland) that connected it was wiped out and flooded forever by a massive tsunami. The tsunami was generated by the Storegga submarine landslide off the Norwegian coast which failed around 8150 years ago.
As the glaciers retreated about 10,000 years ago, animals and plants were able to recolonise land that had been covered with ice, migrating across Doggerland from Europe. However, they could not reach Ireland because the Irish Sea was too big (and too salty) an obstacle for the three British species of snake, so Ireland remained snake-free. Except for the occasional accidentally-introduced snake, New Zealand doesn't have any either.
The legend of St. Patrick driving all of Ireland’s snakes into the sea is just a myth, as they were never there in the first place.
There are many symbols and analogies in religion and texts. The Bible is full of them. This book was written by mortal men, not a God.
@@user-js7ek9oh3p You don't have an understanding of the Holy Spirit....
@@thefarmgirl30just stop. Believe what you want but mind your own business and stop telling others what they should or shouldn't believe or feel. Its gross.
Bit confusing. I thought part 1 & 2 would be more about ancient DNA. It didn't even give the DNA results. Bunch of assumptions on assumptions. I also believe they make the claim these ancient people went extinct at least on part 1 the guys with the blue eyes. Not sure I agree. The blue eyed people where Western hunter gatherers. The second group where Neolithic farmers. These groups are not extinct. All modern Europeans have both of these DNA admixtures plus Steppe herder (Yamnaya people).
Lots of WHG and EEF genes still exist in Europeans, but the Y-haplogroup is almost all R1 (Indo-European). This documentary doesn't get into this, because it probably indicates that the Indo-Europeans killed the men as they conquered.
@@O.M.G.Puppies All Europeans have W.H.G, E.E.F & A.N.E (Yamnaya). The Max Planck institute covers this topic in great detail. The thing is these 3 components where already present ar least 45,000 years ago. "Upper Paleolithic genome reveals deep roots of modern Eurasians". That's the study if you're interested. Apparently these Europeans spread out got isolated because of the last glacial maximum. Then we basically reunite after the L.G.M. This is where the current mainstream narrative starts. They tell us how the E.E.F left Anatolia and went into W.H.G territory and formed a new people then lastly the Yamnaya spread out everywhere and they were the last group that mixed in and that's how all modern Europeans came to be. These 3 genitic components are shared by all Europeans today just in different ratios. But the story being told why apparently true leaves out the fact that these were already 1 people. They just met back up. Modern Europeans have at least 45,000 years of genetic continuity probably a lot longer. Thanks to ancient DNA we can learn the truth.
Irish History: Stone Age then Early Medieval 😎
Thanks for posting
Ah - the annuals of time (so to speak)
No surprise,
The Church was
A Power Structure
Exactly,, The Christian Church is a very well-organized 'Power Structure', similar to the one in which Jesus was completely against, and was attempting to free the Jews from the corruption of the Temple Pharisees & Priests, who kept the Jews in bondage with Laws & Taxes. The Romans adopted 'The Church' because it was more simple & successful at controlling the people. The Pagans were ripe for conversion.
Need a name change, to Ancient Speculation.
Not much about DNA here. And very light on archaeology. Boring, in fact. Waste of time.
I agree. Very strange they skipped over the Step peoples migration into Europe which is the majority of European DNA as well as being a huge part of European history to go straight into the Christian period is very odd and doesn't make sense.
@@tobyplumlee7602 Very telling - or Fairie telling
Great documentary!
There are many of Irish decent in the south USA, and the graves in many cemeteries are covered with white stone.
♪♫♥Very interesting - Thank you for sharing this ;)
"the island is now deserted ..." The narrator says this as a neatly trimmed lawn is shown. 🤔 Who's mowing the grass? 😉
"Cause I was a gazillionaire, and I liked doin it so much, I cut that grass for free."
@@NONANTIForest ?
I guess someone needs to maintain that medieval monastery.
I wonder... these "differently buried" bodies, has anybody been able to get their DNA? Did these poor people have children or other relatives who are ancesstors of living people today?
Oh I,m sure.Relatives in Germany became Christians when St.Boniface hit them upside the head with a cross In Hungary, momma's side became Christians when St.Stephen King of Hungary did the same.Have protestant relatives on both sides, going back to Martin Luther and John Calvin.
@@hildahilpert5018 True, but overall, Christians did NOT convert via the sword unlike most Muslim conversions.
@@muaythai8467 Incorrect. The "convert or die" concept was purely Christian, from the crusades. Read a history book.
@@muaythai8467 100% correct.
@@beijingsbittch6218 Thanks. Dr Ibrahim was a colleague of mine when I taught at LU.
Of course this is known already by any thoughtful soul. Anthro hasn’t added much except to point fingers anew.
Could anyone provide a professional historical definition of the term " Norman - Gaelic " 🤔🤔🤔
sorry to see the huge gap in timeline between the two parts of this documentary. Also, the info on the DNA results is pretty sparse. what is included is quite interesting though. thanks for posting
We're very religious people close to Jews that believe in the Bible from Genesis to Revelations and I've always thought that was unique
You say "we" when you shouldnt.
Not the flex you think it is.
Can you please make a video that proves scientists can see DNA and can study the genes in it as well? I keep asking all over the web, but no one has yet been able to.
That's because the earth is flat,right?!
@@donfronterhouse4759 No.
I wish I had my festivals still. I have Halloween, Winter Solstice, and just barely Ostara and Summer Solstice, but the others are too vague and have faded away. I always dreamed of finding a pagan group to bring them back to life.
"BURN THE WITCH!!!" --says the "loving Christians."
A lot of this is very subjective to the person interpreting. There could easily be other reasons for the way they found the bodies. Very interesting!
2nd part of Part 2 was more interesting...
But alas, according to scripture the common accepted date of god creating earth is 5000bc. He then flooded the earth according to scriptures in 2350bc. Let that sink in and then i leave you with this...the great pyramid.. .It was built by Khufu (Cheops), the second king of Egypt's 4th dynasty (c. 2543-c. 2436 bce), and was completed in the early 25th century bce
who cares?...
@@user-McGiver excatly my point. More deaths in the name of a god then both world wars combined and climbing. Sickening falsehood
You are taking this as fact. Most of the Bible was written after it happened and a lot of the stories are unprovable. But not only that, it has been tinkered with by later Christian’s to fit the narrative of power staying within the church system.
@@dennistracy1535 lol isn't amazing how god killed everyone associated with the pryramids. Just wow. How Noah knew about the Adélie penguins of Antartica. Simply amazing since we are told we were not seafaring peoples back then. I wonder how he kept them alive in the heat if the middle east for a year while the water receeded. Ahhh I love fables so much
@@user-McGiver Normal people care versus pathetic, disgruntled losers. Just saying...
No DNA discussed. 😢
Oh my gosh sensationalism. Surely it's volcanic hence flowers. Tripping on toxic noxious gases
As a non-Christian this makes me sad. We lost so much to the spreading of Christianity.
I personally find it gross why they think they need to force what they believe on others. It's still happening today with missionaries.
Just stop. Believe what you want, fine, but stop obliterating other cultures.
the graveyard finds just make me think of "civilizeations" ( which are not very civilized ) simply for the reason that they didn't understand population mathematics.
and then trying to justify living human disposal practices, which evolve in the absence of any clear thought to the matter, that the living can still manage to get what they need.
but then you look closer, and you always find some likely did understand what the problem was ...... population mathematics are like the laws of nature, if people overshoot the capacity, the lessor remaining capacity is absolutely merciless..
I have got decades in trying to restore ethical access to biological parenthood ....I am not a bad person for that, and I have had all my legal bases covered.
it's just that restoring ethical access, to that human right, requires limiting those most prolific that plan to continue exploiting it ....that's where the slander comes from ... "people" like that, and sadistic people who enjoy raping my mind, endlessly.
no human right can be protected from unlimited individual over-exploration of the human right to create humans with rights.
when I tell people to stop, I just mean stop.
but to them, that means I created a mortal crime, because they take my saying stop and put it behind an existing human with rights, ( that's not what I was saying ),
OR they don't stop, and act like I don't know a human with rights when I see one.
the created person is a human with rights
We all originated from sub saharan africa.
Botswana
please forward my previous comment to your colleges.....thank you.
Tombs or temples facing east as the sun rises is not pagan… God had the Israelites build the tabernacle and the temple facing east with the rising sun; this would have been passed on when Ireland was populated, from lands east.
Quartz in the burials may have just been ones way to leave a token to remember there loved one, much like people today who leave trinkets or pics in a casket. Nothing pagan
What a bs misleading title and misleading content
Part 2 has zero information.
B.S.
Part 1 was interesting, Part 2 was not.
I wish our ancestors would have continued to be pagan.
Duh! They sorta are...According to the 2021 census, 46.2% of people in England and Wales identify as Christian.
Yeah right, duhh, the nerve of this guy huh@CheeseSteakJimi
@@CheeseSteakJimiyawn our Iron Age and Bronze Age ancestors. The Celts all the way back to the indo-Europeans. Christianity destroyed many European cultures. Causing us to lose the rich culture of our ancient ancestors.
@@michaelbatarick9617lol the nerve I’m a American.
@@thomasnelson7869 no you're not an "'American''... not when we talk about so back in time... but I do agree with your ''wish''... the ''eastern'' religion managed to conquer the Western cultures... bringing the Dark Ages, that we barely start to leave behind us...
2 stones in mouth means ,,,you talk too much....
People sure love to whine 😕
Us truth seekers are a PITA.
We need to free ourselves from the yoke of Jewish narrative.
But you're speaking within the context of a distinctly Christian yoke, of European narration, with a repetitive history of anti-Jewish persecution. Mind your gap of logic.
@@prototropo Shut up
@@propagandatwo Don't like your fantasies demolished, eh?
@@prototropo lol c'mon. My IQ is large. Just go away. I don't explain things to idiots.
The Celts way before Christianity already worshipped a God called Hesus=Jesus!
Where is that documented?
nope!... that's just another lie!
Proof?
@@user-McGiver Esus
Esus, Esos, Hesus, or Aisus was a Celtic god who was worshipped primarily in ancient Gaul and Britain. He is known from two monumental statues and a line in Lucan's Bellum civile. Source=Wikipedia.
Not charge for the education.
@@astev52 Look it up and learn.
The music overrides the narrative. I have ADHD and the music confounds my autistic brain. Too much information all at once! 🫨🙃🫠
Sorry.
May God bless you.
Tired of Christian lies...cheers
Ancient Europeans word dark people
Black people built that.
Idiotic, racist comment.
the first part was relevant... the second was irrelevant and indifferent
Tissue, miss?
Tampon?
I too, was expecting more DNA history. There is nothing about the ancestry of these later Irish. Very disappointing!