MVP is not a lifetime achievement award. You never know when you will see play like Mahomes has played this year , its Mahomes to lose. PC87 your the best.
This is why I stopped buying football boxes. I just buy who or what I want. The points are a letdown. Thanks for the video, always a joy to check them out.
One of your videos dropped in my feed the other day and I've been ripping through your vids like you RIP packs. Love the channel and love watching the content. Thank you
So far on TH-cam I’ve seen nothing but points in these boxes, then I bought one last night and i got points (600 pts at least). And you got points! I’m seeing a trend for sure.
The only good thing about those stupid points is that you can choose what player you want (kinda). That’s where it starts and ends. As you said, there’s zero excitement about getting points and when you pull points there’s a 0% chance that you’ll actually get anything worthwhile with them.
I think they should randomly insert points in packs. I don’t think they should put them in in place of the hits. Just a nice bonus and I don’t think people would mind so much
I miss the good ole days when panini didn't monopolize every football product, it was fun having all the different card companies there once was...i think panini sucks and everything they put out has a boring vibe and looks almost identical to the next, which is why i don't throw away money for the garbage they constantly produce.
The points are a hit - to the wallet. I like a better mix of rookie cards in packs, these are not the cards to get for a good rookie mix. I mean, I like Jerry Rice as much as the next person... We bought a box of Panini Contenders DRAFT Picks 2018, and pulled a 5/5 Jim Plunkett...
I totally agree with you. The points should be an "extra hit". Makes me wonder now if they even put autos in those boxes or are they all filled with points
Yeah for people to stop buying them and waiting till panini contract runs out for the NFL and topps makes football again. I've been saying for a good year now that panini is a bunch of criminals. I seriously hope someone sues them.
I've seen 3 of these boxes opened now and all 3 have had points. I have a box coming in the mail but I think I'm going to return it to Target. Either replace a mem card with points or have it be an extra hit. At least don't have it replace the 1 auto you get it the box. That's just cheap.
That right there is why I don't buy Panini. I haven't bought any football since 2016. Topps ftw! I can't wait for them to get the license back. Been having good luck with baseball and hockey cards this year anyway.
I've bought two boxes of cards this year. I quit getting boxes, and just buy singles. Panini is a joke of a company. They send damaged cards, and screw you over with points. One of my last boxes was shorted a hit and contacted panini and they had the gall to ask me if I received a points card! Won't waste a dime on another one of their boxes.
Sorry about that man! That's absolutely ridiculous. No other words. I feel you pain speaking of the Prizm Mega Boxes. I was really thinking about going in on a few FoTL boxes when they drop. The base cards look real good this year. After seeing these though, I'm really reconsidering that. Might just stop all together with Football to be honest. And to everyone saying bring Topps football back, half of you are probably the ones that were complaining about Topps being unoriginal and using the same photo's for all the players ('cause Panini doesn't right?).
Holy crap enough with points. Panini has to know collectors hate them for the most part. If they insist on screwing us with them they need to eat the shipping costs.
I got the royal Panini treatment in 2018 Rookie & Stars Retail, 400 & 200 in the 2 I bought. Only saving grace was a 1 of 1 on a no name rookie I guess? PS 2018 Optic, all target had was a value pack, HUGE waste of money, avoid those.
I think it's crazy how panini has there points but then when you go on there site to turn in the points they only have mostly common cards to choose from even if the cards are autos patches or plates it's not worth it the cards won't obtain any value in the future so the points are worth less
Can we ban together and get Panini to get rid of Points once and for all. This is absolutely ridiculous. NO excuse for them to put them in there. We gotta do something about this.
Absolutely correct I actually got an auto out of a single retail pack of 18 contenders retail it seems like you are better just buying some single packs than these "premium" boxes, better off if buying retail to buy those rookies and stars premium boxes for 10 dollars more I havent seen points in those yet
@JasonWard I'm sorry to hear that they need to do away with this whole points system its garbage the choices they have on their app are terrible and you have to pay shipping which is ridiculous should be free like if you get a redemption in a pack
why not just buy a hobby box? also single packs are risky cause of pack searchers. They even sell guaranteed redemption cards on ebay in packs I have no idea how they even know this stuff. I bought one one day though and it was a Jimmy Graham rookie auto redemption not bad.
On a separate instance... is anyone familiar with the Kenyan Drake 2016 Contenders Draft Picks base rc auto and how there are small circular dents in several locations on the top half on the back of the card? Not any of the ticket parallels that are #d... I had 3 of them in 2017, and all 3 had similar dents on the back. They all came from different sellers on ebay, none of which disclosed the dents... one seller thought I did it on purpose lol so I can send it back for a refund and then he couldn't re-sell it, ha!
If points absolutely cannot be avoided, replace a mem with points not an auto. Definitely never wasting my money on retail unless its less than $15 worth of cards
Hey packercards 87.. I was wondering if I could trade you or possibly buy those Khalil Mack cards off you. I’ve been waiting for the bears Khalil Mack to come out.. beings you got two made my day 😂😂 if you could respond and let me know that would be awesome..
At 2:42 I’ll kill for that Tom Brady
MVP is not a lifetime achievement award. You never know when you will see play like Mahomes has played this year , its Mahomes to lose. PC87 your the best.
3:20 little does he know, also crazy how bears still aint been good yet
This is why I stopped buying football boxes. I just buy who or what I want. The points are a letdown. Thanks for the video, always a joy to check them out.
One of your videos dropped in my feed the other day and I've been ripping through your vids like you RIP packs. Love the channel and love watching the content. Thank you
Mahomes mvp and Rookie of the year Lindsay. Undrafted and killing it
Mahomes MVP!! He's is absolutely killing it.
Points suck! That's why retail is not worth it. Nice video, very informative
Just like the Optic Mega boxes a couple years ago
Nice break, always fun to watch
So far on TH-cam I’ve seen nothing but points in these boxes, then I bought one last night and i got points (600 pts at least). And you got points! I’m seeing a trend for sure.
The only good thing about those stupid points is that you can choose what player you want (kinda). That’s where it starts and ends. As you said, there’s zero excitement about getting points and when you pull points there’s a 0% chance that you’ll actually get anything worthwhile with them.
Wow. I already didn't like Contenders to begin with but this just confirmed it for me, lol. Sorry about the crap luck my dude.
I think they should randomly insert points in packs. I don’t think they should put them in in place of the hits. Just a nice bonus and I don’t think people would mind so much
I miss the good ole days when panini didn't monopolize every football product, it was fun having all the different card companies there once was...i think panini sucks and everything they put out has a boring vibe and looks almost identical to the next, which is why i don't throw away money for the garbage they constantly produce.
I can't imagine you still collect??
I hit a rookie dual ticket of Saquon Barkley and Baker Mayfield player worm jersey
On a top betting site, Brees and Mahomes II have been going back and forth, battling it out for MVP rank #1!
trying to decide if i should sell my Mayfield game day ticket red foil auto /5 from draft picks, or hold on to it.
Panini is the ea of sports cards and topps was like 2k sports we need to bring them back
Last years retail box was full of points too. Thought about grabbing a box of this but definitely not now
I'm done collecting football cards until the NFL rethinks their contract with Panini. Time to revisit baseball after 20+ years.
Sorry about the points. Panini is really screwing us over with these points.
The points are a hit - to the wallet. I like a better mix of rookie cards in packs, these are not the cards to get for a good rookie mix. I mean, I like Jerry Rice as much as the next person... We bought a box of Panini Contenders DRAFT Picks 2018, and pulled a 5/5 Jim Plunkett...
I totally agree with you. The points should be an "extra hit". Makes me wonder now if they even put autos in those boxes or are they all filled with points
Bought 2 Mega Boxes of 2020 Panini Prizm for $220 each, 1 auto each box...got 150 points in each box, was furious
MVP Aaron Donald, DROY Derwin James, OROY Saquon Barkley
I bought a box as well.... 150 point card 😤
Patrick Mahomes MVP, only guy with a no look pass this year in the NFL.
That was a crazy play! Dude is a beast
So sorry. Whenever we get points card instead of an auto, we should refer to it as a 'pick six' by panini. 😫
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Points of any kind Should be a Bonus ONLY. Should not count toward any hits. It's Should be a Bonus for Buying THIER Product.
Hi Awesome Packers Cards ♥️
Any thoughts on what can be done to put an end to being "points'ed" by Panini? That's what prevents me from breaking football wax. I only buy singles.
Yeah for people to stop buying them and waiting till panini contract runs out for the NFL and topps makes football again. I've been saying for a good year now that panini is a bunch of criminals. I seriously hope someone sues them.
I do like the look of these
MVP Mahomes from a Dolphins fan
I am really liking them this year
I don't mind the base cus like you said the value holds only thing is like what happened to you with the points
Newbie question but I'm new to collecting cards can somebody tell me what's the difference between hobby and retail should I always go for hobby
Retail is cheaper and less value hobby guarantees hits and is on the more expensive side but I think it’s better
Thanks
I've seen 3 of these boxes opened now and all 3 have had points. I have a box coming in the mail but I think I'm going to return it to Target. Either replace a mem card with points or have it be an extra hit. At least don't have it replace the 1 auto you get it the box. That's just cheap.
That right there is why I don't buy Panini. I haven't bought any football since 2016. Topps ftw! I can't wait for them to get the license back. Been having good luck with baseball and hockey cards this year anyway.
Damn bro. I bought one at the target in Menomonee Falls and pulled a deontay burnette auto. Never again.
How many more years does Panini America have the license to produce NFL cards?
I've bought two boxes of cards this year. I quit getting boxes, and just buy singles. Panini is a joke of a company. They send damaged cards, and screw you over with points. One of my last boxes was shorted a hit and contacted panini and they had the gall to ask me if I received a points card! Won't waste a dime on another one of their boxes.
i got 150 points to in a box of retail i ordered but i can use it for white sparkle packs that sell for 150 dollars but i need 1k points
My MVP choices would be Mahomes, Gurley or Mack but I think the NFL will give to the old man Brees which isn't a horrible thing.
Panini step up the game WE HATE POINT REWARDS!!!!
I bought two boxes for the price of one, pulled a 23/25 cracked ice auto marcell ateman
What are the cheapest packs that I can get autos or Jersey pieces from?
Sorry about that man! That's absolutely ridiculous. No other words. I feel you pain speaking of the Prizm Mega Boxes. I was really thinking about going in on a few FoTL boxes when they drop. The base cards look real good this year. After seeing these though, I'm really reconsidering that. Might just stop all together with Football to be honest.
And to everyone saying bring Topps football back, half of you are probably the ones that were complaining about Topps being unoriginal and using the same photo's for all the players ('cause Panini doesn't right?).
I just watched 2 other guys break open retail and they each got 150 points too.
Wow that is nuts , I've seen only three of these boxes opened and they all had points 🤔 I like the Montana and mahomes cards though 👍
And mahomes is my mvp
Topps! Please come back!
Philip Rivers for MVP
What do you do with all of the base cards from all these different packs you open?
Yes sir!!! I got points in mine too! So between the two of us we’re 3 for 3!
BustinCards make that 4! I had some in mine too..
ESHABAMBOO That’s insane!
I also had points in mine, straight garbage
@@ESHABAMBOO my buddy bought 1 got points too guy below my comment points too 6 for 6 lol
Do u use pts? Ill buy them
I bought 2 of the same boxes yesterday and 1 had 150 point too, bummer.
I know you said the points are equivalent to 4 or 5 dollars but what do you use them for
Holy crap enough with points. Panini has to know collectors hate them for the most part. If they insist on screwing us with them they need to eat the shipping costs.
Only way to show panini how you feel is to stop buying their cards. I stopped 2 years ago. Only collect baseball. Topps for the win.
Same here!
@TheGpkollector I agree, people like this complain about it, but keep buying panini products. Prices are insane right now tho
@@dawgpoundclipsit's a tale as old as time
I got the royal Panini treatment in 2018 Rookie & Stars Retail, 400 & 200 in the 2 I bought. Only saving grace was a 1 of 1 on a no name rookie I guess? PS 2018 Optic, all target had was a value pack, HUGE waste of money, avoid those.
Even
Mommy daddy
you should look at points this way put a few of them together and get a better card suited for your collection than you could get otherwise
You got it dry...No Vaseline.. point cards...wow...
That's terrible about the points. I bought a box of the mega box prizms and got points. I was so mad.
I can't decide between Mahomes and Brees for mvp it's hard hahah and 2 boxes 2 points geez panini I feel bad for you
Wow, that bites. I'd be mad too.
Todd Gurley for MVP
I got an auto /99 of chase litton in mine, so I guess any numbered auto is better than points
I would like to see Aaron Donald or Todd Gurley to win MVP but it will probably be Drew Brees or Patrick MaHomes
And to think I was kinda on the fence for this product..
I couldn't even finish the video after the second points card
Shameful haha. Nobody is immune to the points monster. Thanks for posting anyway, love the channel :-)
SICK AUTOGRAPHS!!!
I think it's crazy how panini has there points but then when you go on there site to turn in the points they only have mostly common cards to choose from even if the cards are autos patches or plates it's not worth it the cards won't obtain any value in the future so the points are worth less
Khalil mack deserves defensive mvp
DANG BRUTHA!!!!!!, thats Brutal, Do I dare Jump into Mine,
Buy from target.com they are 35 bucks and if you spend 100 you get 25 off great deal not sure how long that sale is good for though
Wow..that's crazy..guess I won't be getting these way too many points
Can we ban together and get Panini to get rid of Points once and for all. This is absolutely ridiculous. NO excuse for them to put them in there. We gotta do something about this.
I feel you man I would put the points thing a really stupid idea and that is my opinion on it
I hate panini i used to only collect topps and stopped collecting for a bit when topps left
This is so sad. Just imagine the kid who saves up his money for weeks to get one of these and pulls points.
Absolutely correct I actually got an auto out of a single retail pack of 18 contenders retail it seems like you are better just buying some single packs than these "premium" boxes, better off if buying retail to buy those rookies and stars premium boxes for 10 dollars more I havent seen points in those yet
@@AnthonyDorney I got nailed on the 2 I bought, both had points. It replaced an auto in one and a mem card in the other.
@JasonWard I'm sorry to hear that they need to do away with this whole points system its garbage the choices they have on their app are terrible and you have to pay shipping which is ridiculous should be free like if you get a redemption in a pack
why not just buy a hobby box? also single packs are risky cause of pack searchers. They even sell guaranteed redemption cards on ebay in packs I have no idea how they even know this stuff. I bought one one day though and it was a Jimmy Graham rookie auto redemption not bad.
That actually happened to me except with the $150 box I saved up fo 6 months
Awesome
Topps Football at least needs to come back
Unfortunately we have a couple more years till the panini/NFL contract runs out.
On a separate instance... is anyone familiar with the Kenyan Drake 2016 Contenders Draft Picks base rc auto and how there are small circular dents in several locations on the top half on the back of the card? Not any of the ticket parallels that are #d... I had 3 of them in 2017, and all 3 had similar dents on the back. They all came from different sellers on ebay, none of which disclosed the dents... one seller thought I did it on purpose lol so I can send it back for a refund and then he couldn't re-sell it, ha!
If points absolutely cannot be avoided, replace a mem with points not an auto. Definitely never wasting my money on retail unless its less than $15 worth of cards
That was super awesome
I miss Topps Football😞
Keepin It REALZ why? They are worse than panini
@@cardcrush3657 wrong they are far worse
Used to love Topps back in 2014 and 15 now it’s boring without regular simple cards
This same thing happened to me with optic 2016 the retail jumbo I got points out of both boxes so I feel your pain.
Just hoping Topps will get a license again one day. Panini is taking advantage of NFL fans without remorse.
Hey packercards 87.. I was wondering if I could trade you or possibly buy those Khalil Mack cards off you. I’ve been waiting for the bears Khalil Mack to come out.. beings you got two made my day 😂😂 if you could respond and let me know that would be awesome..
That sucks bro, at least you can afford this stuff, I can't even afford to buy any cards over 20 bucks
Not rookie heavy , lot of base . MVP will be patty my homey.
Something is up. I got three. Got three points.
WHAT?!?!?! How ridiculous!
@@packercards87 you're telling me. I dont have an LCS so missing out on three autos was huge.
CAN I PLEASE GET THAT ELWAY? I AM A HUUUUGGGGEEEE BRONCOS FAN AND ELWAY IS THE GOAT! Plus I started to get back into collecting recently.
Wow I’d be contacting them about that
First time I've ever cussed on this feed but I've gotta say it. NO FUCKING WAY
If u grade the points they will sell for millions great vid
Good video man
Better get em sleeved up though..
This is why I stopped buying boxes years ago. I only buy singles off EBay.