The animation could be like Goku's in the Movie. Your body turns blue then it breaks off like ice, from the feet up, then a blue aura appears. I do have a really unique idea though. SsjBlue can give a little bit bigger boost than ssj3, and when your stamina gets lower, the boost gets lower. So 1-2 bars will give a ssj1 boost, while having full stamina will give a full boost.
I like the idea but at the same time I don't. The only problem I see is that you would then get competitive online players to re-build their characters for Maximum stamina usage And crush all other races.
Super Saiyan Blue - 5 Ki Cost - Long transformation time - 3x Speed - Strike & Ki blast attacks 20% increase - Slowest stamina recovery - Fast ki recovery - Ultimates cost less ki - Weaker guard
Markpjetri Mark Bro... That's perfect, I've been thinking of ways to make it balanced without being op, but this is perfect. The transformation would be usable without being op and it would take skill to use.
Phalse Icon1c take skill to use? Why would it have to take skill when none of the others have to? The best way to balance it without this confusing mess of changes would be to make it the saiyan equivalent of golden form except buff strike skills instead of ki blasts. Golden form is perfectly balanced and all it does is boost ki damage and nothing else (except speed to I thing but that dosent matter) so ssb would be balanced as well if they did it the same way
Madara 1096 The reason I rather it take skill to use, no shitty spam when I fight pvp. I know you most likely ran into people who either do one or two things when they go ssj3, the first go ssj3 when they feel desperate and get beat worse, or someone who goes into the form but have very shitty stamina management. Or those small few who goes in and out of the transformation just for super armor... What I'm saying is that I rather this transformation take skill instead of being a spam or a transformation that you go into just for the hell of it like potential unleashed. A example, how many male majins do you see in pvp, then ask how many of those male majins use purification, then ask yourself the final question which one's use the transformation correctly to its full use. Same could be said about the giant form from Nemakians
All races are cheated imo. Yeah all races didn't get much shine in the series but they give you enough to work off of. Namekian fusion , master roshi buff transformation , buu absorbtion , frieza race first 3 transformations. For a game focused around character creation they dropped the ball in alot of areas
What I hope for Saiyans:Ssb Humans:Can Become Androids/Buff form/Multi Arm/Maybe Pure Progress Namekians:Red eyes Frieza:they already have golden but maybe final third and second form/Or Cooler's Metal Robotic Form/True Golden Form/Buff Majins:Maybe a Supreme kai type of transformation/Absorbing people like super buu or just Super Buu/Fit/Grey Buu
What i want for ssb - Awsome Transformation Animation - A Little Better Stats Than SSJ3 -Drains Slow Stamina Recovery -Increase Ki Attack Damage -Train With Whis To Achieve It - 6 Ki Bars Required To Transform
It doesn't bother me that saiyans have the most transformations, and or advantages that the other races don't. I mean, the show is based around A saiyan so...
TATOR TOT idgaf Who is the star of the show this is the game They can be way more fair but they can’t bother to look through the manga or anime or even just going to the wiki to look up more forms for these characters the six witches technique is a thing buff roshi is a thin Androids are a thing and fusion is a thing as well as red eye namekians and the fit buu in super or 100% form and true golden Frieza
Drag Gamer I get where you're coming from, but seeing the lack in creativity that they put towards the transformations for other races in the game in general shows you that, their mindset isn't the other races.
There's tien's four or six armed form (th-cam.com/video/nrD3DURxjr0/w-d-xo.html ), and master roshi buff form for humans. Namekian fusion or the red eyed form from heroes for Namekians, 100%(buff form) or meta form for frieza race, Buu when he got skinny in super or absorption for Majins(it can work to something similar like Kirby in smash bros th-cam.com/video/4LY7fs6EqTk/w-d-xo.html ) The problem would be solved if they do something like this 🤷🏽♂️
but they not the same race so like if a wood sword and a metal sword if u slice 'em really hard on something the wood one could break but metal could just been scratched twoo things have different advantages and disadvantage like golden form relays on power more than stamina like when friezer got to a certain point where he was so weak he de-formed in to final form
Nigel Reginald Augustus-Bakersfield Famous last words. Lots of people said that Golden Form wouldn’t happen for Freiza’s race, especially in XV2. Others have said that SSJB wouldn’t happen, especially in XV2. We now have Turn Golden and leaked information about a potential SSJB transformation for DLC Pack 6. The question isn’t if Ultra Instinct will become an awakening skill, it’s “how will they implement it?”, and “how soon will it be?”. That being said, it isn’t exactly easy to answer.
Kenpai Yeah unless they come out with a form or 2 in super that is way stronger than Ultra Instinct and can be used by every race as well it will never happen.
Kenpai Like haven’t you noticed that they wait on a new transformation to come out before implementing a new transformation that Saiyans can use? The same thing happened in Xenoverse 1, Battle of Gods happened wasn’t good enough, 2 new forms in RoF happened, then they released Unlock Potential, and now Kaioken Blue x20 was shown not good enough, Ultra Instinct and possible Ultra Instinct Kaioken will be shown, now they work on adding Super Saiyan Blue, so unless another few breakthrough forms appear in the series after Ultra Instinct is over and done with, Ultra Instinct will never happen for CaC’s they will never even start a project on it.
Humans and Frieza race should be able to get Full power forms. Like a Buff Roshi form and max power final form frieza. I don't know what to think for Buu and Namekians. Fusion and absorption?
Joshua raymundo the way they can do absorption is that you could absorb your mentors, and it's more so a power boost than a transformation since you don't absorb mid battle. But it would lock the transformation slot.
Khalil Cross it would unlock a transformation. Like you could call it “fused power” or “super namek” or something really stupid like the namekian equivalent of “become golden”
He said that Super Saiyan Blue should have a stamina drain but it’s been said in the show several times that Super Saiyan is stressful on the body. I feel like Super Saiyan Blue should have a speed increase like the Golden Form does because Goku and Vegeta are obviously faster in Blue form and it should be a little stronger than SSJ3 but it should have its own Unique Boost and it’d be cool if it still had the teleportation skill that SSJ gives
Specifically I believe he says the actual transformation drains a lot of stamina. Maybe when you do it, it should actually cost a certain amount of Ki and/or Stamina to innitiate?
SSGSS Goku Do the opposite, make the SSB help with Stamina and have the damage be lessoned then make it on par with SSJ2 in strength. Ki out put SSJ Vegeta
I like this because you could essentially turn it into a "veteran" form. New guys will just out themselves as shit when they are getting smashed by spending their stamina, and vets will be able to really showcase ability to use stamina sparingly.
Drakos Gaming Nameks: Red Eye Form Frieza: Meta Cooler Form. (Just talk to Cooler to hook you up with that Big Gete Star. Majins: Fit Form Earthlings: Weapon Master Form.
Namekians should get namekian fusion (Have an animation where namekian closes his eyes u see namekians in the backround for a brief moment then boom give a purple electric aura or sum) Frieza race should add buff form ( basic attack increase is big but big hit to speed and super slow stamina drain) Humans should get weapon mastery ( allows humans to use swords power poles and other added accessories in the game that each have unique combo potential and extra damage if your stamina is broken u lose the form) Buu should get skinny buu ( keeps clothes and accessory’s adds speed and basic attack damage) The game wont come back to life if we dont take risks and new approaches outside the norm get crazy with it
I think that Super Saiyan Blue should be brought into the game. I also think that it shouldn't drain stamina or ki or anything of the sort. This sounds stupid but how about Saiyans at level 75 and higher can only unlock SSGSS? It is a God Transformation and I think that people should work to get the transformation.
Dylan Woods That poses a balance issue, if the saiyans get the SSB (which would have an insane boost) they would be better than every other race. It needs to be a limited timed or something unique because it’s not an easy thing to do. SSB either way will make the game Saiyan-biased.
Dylan Woods maybe not a drain but a reduction on stamina gain and a bit on ki and it should be lvl 80 or 85 (there is an achievement called super saiyan god super saiyan when you reach lvl 80/85)
You mean, "for starters, we already have Become Golden," which supposedly rivals the God Form, but can't be maintained as long, yet in X2, I can maintain it for as long as I want. I'd prefer to maintain SSB and have it with lower bonuses, rather than having it time out.
Lord Omega When Piccolo first entered the Giant Form in the 23rd World Tournament against Goku, it was revealed that the form had NO (or at least no noticeable) drawback in speed, yet we move like molasses as Giant Namekians in X2? This tells us that the game can take artistic liberties for the sake of fun, gameplay, and/or balance. Additionally, since the game was released around the end of the Fukkatsu no F Arc (DBS interpretation), I think it's safe to assume that they chose to do that more for gameplay reasons than for lore-conscious reasons.
Hatake Kyun You have to remember especially. The problem was in the show is that Frieza rushed off to earth, once he got the golden form. But stated by Goku, if Frieza would of trained just a bit longer he would of stopped the drawback. Blue is a complete other form, as even with Goku and vegeta seemingly mastered the form, it still drains stamina, which is different for Golden. But yeah we have golden, but we have drawbacks by the damage we take in that form.
I disagree with it draining stamina. If they were gonna do that then the golden form for the frieza race should do the same. Cause both forms have stamina problems. But if ssgss has the drain and golden form doesnt (even though in the show it has a bigger drain then blue) then it wouldnt be fair at all. But I feel like to get the skill you need to do the training Goku and Vegeta did. Maybe a new map where you got to beat Whis with your ki and stamina bar completely drained or something. Its up to them but do something to make it unique. Im just glad these guys arent in charge of making it...
Uber Gaming Not anymore it doesn’t since Frieza perfected the form, if we’re going off the anime where it is right now Golden has almost no draw backs while Blue still has stamina problems upon initial transformation. And Keep in mind these are the mastered variants of the forms as well.
Uber Gaming Look Im a Frieza race user and if it were up to me there would be drawbacks to Super Saiyan Blue, I relish the challenge. But this is Bandai and Dimps we’re talking about to them it’s only reasonable to put a pretty hefty restriction on the form on Blue’s debut for “Balance sake” what I believe they should do is the form you cut a chunk of stamina upon the initial transformation like 4 bars or something, so it isn’t going to affect your fight other than the initial transformation. One more thing you all should know any Saiyan users reading...This changes nothing our race will still beat you without transforming this form won’t help you win, no matter what reasonable Boost this form gives it will change nothing.
Sounds like its gonna go back to super saiyan in xenoverse 1. Then youll have to spend points on stamina just to use the damn thing. I dont want that. I just want to use it. Not having to refill it with capsules or something. Compared to golden that's unfair. Just because Frieza mastered it doesn't mean you should. Of course youd give it a drawback cause your a Frieza race so it doesnt effect you. If it has a stamina drawback then I might as well buy xenoverse 1 on pc and get a mod. No difference. If you want people to use it gotta make it so its usable. I wouldnt use it if it was set this way.
I see where your coming from but it doesn't feel that way with Ultimate Gohan and our CAC version of that "transformation" I just don't want a carbon copy of a stamina nonsense that SSJ3 provides or else what is the point? I think the Golden transformation for CaC should have a heavy stamina cost for the ki damage they get, last I check freezy pop lost because of that stamina "thingy" lol.
In my opinion a drawback that should be retweaked for stamina not more damage taken. Really doesn't make sense to me but look at the world we live in XD
Just gonna put my list here Saiyans: SSG 3 Ki Bars, Temporary Health Regen, (once per match for a third of 1 Health bar) Stamina Regen Increase. SSGSS 5 Ki Bars, 18%Basic18%Strike18%Ki Blasts SS3 Stamina Reduction, No Defense Boost, Ki Regen Boost. Majins: Fit Majin 5 Ki Bars Stamina Regen, Gain Some Purification abilities, 10% Basic 20%Strike 20%Ki Blast Take 5 to 10%more damage Frieza Race: Meta Cooler Transformation, Gain Defense Boost, 18% Basic 18%Strike,10%Ki Blast More Ki Regeneration, When Stamina Broken Gain Temporary Health Regen Nameks: Red Eye Form, (to be continued) Humans: Weapon Master Form, (to be continued)
Agreed, for Earthlings I'd rather have Roshi buffness or maybe kinda fudge the canon slightly and have "Android Form" or something with really fast stamina regen.
They could give you the green orb thing around you that 17 has. Or make your hands kinda glow to show that you could drain stamina like the weaker androids.
Hmm thats a good question. So only make it increase strikes then? It's tough to answer that question since there's lot of powerful strike options to run. Not sure how that would balance out.
A 20% boost to all stats, 2x speed, half ki cost, but a 300 stamina cost and a slow drain, and it’s harder to recover stamina. Giving it the power it deserves but balancing it for online matches.
Super Saiyan Blue for CaCs=Super Saiyan 3+Super Vegeta 2+Future Super Saiyan+Potential Unleashed Humans should get the Roshi buff form, the Four Witches technique, Witch Craft and Jiren's power Namekians should get the Red-eyed form Majin's should get Super Buu-like form Frieza race should get the True Golden form and 100% form
Aytgh But for you to transform into Super Buu, an evil version of yourself has to absorb you, and take full control of your body. So should your character be controlled by an a.i.?
In my opinion super saiyan blue should be a transformation that you start off with a little drain then overtime you master the form and nothing drains anymore
Here's how I think ssb should be done instead of it draining stamina when in the form how about it cost 4 bars of stamina to transform because ssj blue doesn't drain stamina when in the form but transforming into the form cost a lot of stamina that's why it's not a transformation you can just keep turning on and off. While in the form your stamina doesn't regenerate as slow as ssj 3 but still very slow.
I think there should a side story as to where you train with whis and you unlock ssb, this is where your stamina drains, then you continue to train and go back to the Golden Frieza arc and fight him, he has a shitload of health. After you defeat him, you earn ssb mastered, this where your stamina doesn’t deplete, since you mastered the form
See I want that to be the way you get ssj in the next game You train with Goku to get 1 and 3 Gohan gets you 2 Vegeta gives you super Vegeta 1 and 2 You have to train with all Saiyans to get good (goku, vegeta, gohan, Goten, trunks, future trunks) Train with whis to learn blue( fight Goku and Vegeta)
I think it should be a little bit stronger then potential Unleashed (since it is Blue we're talking about) and maybe take 5 or more ki. Saying it may be broken in a RPG were you can take a hole health bar with someone that has 125 in something without transforming. Blue would be good for raids, parallel quest, and expert missions. And if you play online there is a option to take stats off since whenever you play without it you'll most likely get bodied by someone with a 125 in physical supers. Making it drain ki or stamina when super Saiyan 3 and golden form doesnt take any doesn't make sense. There isn't any damage scaling in a RPG
It doesnt really matter for Majins, Earthlings, and Nameks. They already have OP combos and stuff so it doesnt really make them less OP. Frieza race already has a good transformation cause of the Ki blasts too.
Nah, Humans have broken combos. But Namekians really need a proper form. Red eyes from DBH or just a fused Namekian. Freeza race don't need a new form, tbh. Maybe Humans? Not really. Majins? HELL YEAH. They need something.
Other Races with good Transformations exist. Like Majins. Or Namekians. You just need to know how to use them. Earthlings don't require too much skill.
I think in terms of a power boost do it just above potential unleashed which is like 15% but do a +10% additional to ki blast supers or basic attack or strike supers over top the potential unleashed boost and 10-15% reduced stamina recovery they shouldnt do a stamina drain unless its a ssjb kaiokenx20 thing
I dont want ssb to drain stamina my reason is look at purification for majin and giant transformation for namekian. What I would want is just a swap so it would be ssj1 ssj2 and then instead of ssj3 it would be ssb so basically ssb wouldvhave ssj3 multiplier
Afro Uchiha I think it should have small bost's to basic attack, strike attacks and ki attacks at the cost of slowly draining your stamina but in some way have you prefect it by training some how, either ssb kioken or mastered ssb. Also I hope the game brings back the feature of transformations being shown in cutscenes like XV1.
I feel in a later dlc or xenoverse 3 they should allow Ultra Instinct as an all race transformation, cause just like PU only gohan has it and he's a saiyan, but it's not a saiyan exclusive thing
goku black it doesn't have to be some ridiculous thing you know, that's what balancing and game design is for. It's like saying SSB Vegito shouldn't be in the game cause he's ridiculously strong
It should be an extra addition to super saiyan, super vegeta, and future super saiyan just it has to have a slightly different animation but only a slightly stronger than ss3, sv2, and fss1
I don't like their idea of stamina drain or less ki consumption, like is not Kaioken, its a Super Saiyan with God ki, so it would make gaining stamina and ki harder but it wouldn't take or give you more. I don't know what seereax was thinking but its not worth over complicating it. Plus we have seen in the series Goku and Vegeta going from Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 (Only once we see him use ss3 then SSGSS), straight to SSGSS so why should we not have that plus have it have a different mechanic when dimps felt SSGSS was normal enough to put as a transformed character slot plus, the files in the Xenoverse code just show it as a more powerful SS3 but same gimmick just blue normal hair.
I think for super saiyan blue they should start it off as a quest or mission that you train with whis, beerus , goku, and vegeta and its free for all so everyone is fighting each other and the first time you train with them you may or may not be able to transform into blue and if you don't then you have to keep training with them and if you are able to use it then it drains your stamina and gives you little to no bonuses basically its a burden on your character which means saiyan can't use it online and it may be risky to use it on missions so that urges players to keep training with whis, beerus, goku and vegeta to learn how to use it better and over time your character's ability to properly use blue will get better and better slowly gradually over time and with this people who get mad saying blue will be over powered it won't be unless the person actually earned their way to being strong unlike all the other transformations where you just transform and you get bonuses on the spot. With blue you have to earn your way up to be the best
At first reading it I was like no... But once I got half way through, this is a really dope idea. It makes you feel like you earned something for once in the game
Legendary Super Saiyan God Dumb idea...If that was the case, then it should have been the same for super saiyans 1, 2, And 3. SsB is a GOD form. Therefore it should have great bonuses. Should be better than ssj3. Just like in DBS. Ssj3 couldn’t even touch Beerus. Regular ssg could fight beerus. SsB would be at least a match for beerus. Which is why ssb should have some nice boosts
Maybe humans can gain swordsmanship as an awakening skill and use the Z-sword because it is a longer sword than Trunks' sword so it would also give them more reach and a boost in basic attack but all of your supers and ultimates and super are replaced similar to giant and purification forms.
*Xenoverse 3* Transformations: Saiyan: Ssj 1-3, Ssj Vegeta 1 & 2, Ssj 4, Ssg, Ssgss, Lssj, SsjRose' -DLC: ssgss-Kioken, Ultra blue (vegeta), and SsjRage for CaC Frieza: Cutom Transformation, Final form, Golden form Humans: Power Pole, Four-Armed Namekian: giant form, super namekian/ Kami absorbed Majin: purification that keeps your moves and apparel All Races: Pure progress 1&2, Kioken, Potential unleashed, and Evil (Ultra Instinct, if they can make it not super broken--or perhaps just for a final story mission) ---------------------------- Customization: -Android Race (see DB Heroes) -Add Beerus' Race (Just because) -Add super buu (male) option, in addition to Fat buu. And vice versa for the Female majin -10+ new hair styles (toggle hair change when transforming) -Pointed "Kai" ear options for Saiyans & humans -Third "Tien" eye, scars, tattoos, Krillin's dots, etc. in their own category when creating (can have more than one) -Additional height(s) "Bojack sized" - New body types (Child, chubby, etc) -Hair that moves (See Naruto games) -clothes that moves more fluid (again, see Naruto) -Cutsom Auras -5+ new Race specific outfits per race -Once Unlocked by that race, Race specific outfits can be used on any character -Colorable versions of cast character outfits (Goku's gi, Zamasu's gi, etc) -Purchasable option to make a clothing item "metallic", but still colorable (Zeni or Tp medals, not real currency) - Accessory locations (Face, head, back, chest, etc), One in each slot available. -ANIMATED TAILS/ Colorable (literally see ssj4 Goku's tail) -NEW Acessories, time breaker mask, more scouters, headbands, earrings, POTARA EARRINGS, animated wings/more wings, backpack/backpack with Dragon Balls, etc -More outfits, Time breaker Bardock, merged Zamasu, Tapion, Angel outfits, etc -Toggle amror to get battle damaged as fight goes on/ obtainable battle damaged armor. ---------------------------- Combat: -Colorable Moves (unlockable) -Option to take on the fighting style of your mentor -Custom Stances -New Moves ---------------------------- Other: -More fighting stages (And more with each dlc, Kami house, tournament of power, Whis training area, etc) -More destructible fighting stages -Cutsom parallel quests (Sequence, location and opponents. Only dialogue is typed out by player) -New Game types (2-8 player free for all, 3v1 boss *three players against one boss npc*, Impromptu matches in Conton City (new arena area), etc -Decisions in story make greater impact - New story, not just rehashing the DBZ/DBS narrative -Larger player Roster -Not that it's necessary, but clans of some kind. Get your own outfit options that have a custom symbol on it, and their own play space. Could be interesting. -Mods after final DLC, so whatever the developers didn't put in could be put in by the kind modding community
Freiza race: 5th form Namekians: Fusing with another namek( random character) Majin:Super like super buu/buuhan/ect. Human:Roshi superstrong form??(you know what i mean)
I've said it before and I'll say it again Rhymestyle. They don't need to break their backs just to get Super Saiyan Blue in the game. The easiest way they could add Super Saiyan 4 and the God forms is to simply tag them onto the already existing Super Vegeta and Future Super Saiyan lines, giving all three types of Super Saiyans for the custom characters three branches to transform to in battle. Super Saiyan 4 can go to the Super Vegeta line of transformations since that line is about stronger ki blast supers, and the games usually treat Super Saiyan 4 as having the most devastating ki blast attacks. Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue can be attached to the Future Super Saiyan line since that line is less about increase in power and more about ki management due to its higher rate of ki regen on melee hits compared to the other two lines. They don't need to go insane trying to balance these forms into being unique transformations when they have all the stepping stones to add them as I mentioned in this post. This saves them time and effort in adding the forms but still making sure they're balanced.
No need to be rude my dude. If I sound slightly annoyed in my comment here, it's because I was and still kinda am because this is something I thought of months ago that seems like the easiest solution for Bandai Namco for adding the Super Saiyan 4 and God Forms to the Custom Saiyans. To me it just doesn't seem worth the effort to make them into their own unique transformations when the can save on a lot of the work by doing what I suggested in my comment as it could really help get past that whole issue of figuring out how to balance them. Whatever happens will happen and I'll live with the results, until then I'm just saying what I personally think is the best option which Rhyme encouraged the audience to do in the comments.
This Doesn't Make Sense Because A. Future Super Saiyan Is Based Off Future Gohan's Transformation. B. SSJ4 Has Never Been Shown To Be Transformed Into From Any Other Transformation.
The Games have had Goku and Vegeta transforming into Super Saiyan 4 from other forms before, hell Budokai 3 which was made by DIMPS who are the makers of Xenoverse 1 and 2 had that able to happen. While you do have a point with A, Future Gohan's is still the normal Super Saiyan transformation. Honestly Future Super Saiyan is practically pointless as it is now as it doesn't give enough of a boost to really matter and its gimmick of faster ki regen from melee attacks than the other forms isn't all too spectacular. At least by my mentioned method, you can add the God forms to the game and still have them be balanced since Future Super Saiyan is based around ki regen instead of big boosts to power like the other two transformation lines are. Since Super Saiyan Blue is based around Ki Control, it already makes sense to put it onto the Future Super Saiyan Line. From narrative standpoint it might not make sense, but from gameplay standpoint it does. I'm sorry but this is a case I'd rather put ease of access in gameplay over the narrative standpoint. Besides, this is a video game, it's not really affecting the canon of the series.
DeadToMe what??? Pure Progress is Hit's transformation. I was simply stating if the Saiyans got another transformation, at least give the other races another one as well. And I don't think I'm alone in saying I'd live to have Pure Progress on my CaC's.
I think with super saiyan blue it could be 2 times basic attack kind of like the times 2 golden frieza race form then to balance it it could take 5 ki and give like a 1.2 or 1.3 ki blast multiplier and -1.2 of -1.3 multiplier to strike supers so it kind of balances it out
If i was to stick SSB in, i think these would be its “stats” -5 bar Ki activation required -Its stat increase would be similar to a slightly stronger potential unleashed, but with the ki recovery of super saiyan 2. -Finally, instead of a stamina drain, maybe you lose access to 3 bars of your overall stamina while activated?
Disagree since Freeza seems to have mastered it now. It drained fast because he didnt give it a chance to get used to his body and immediately went after Goku. W/ SSB, you can see Goku/Vegeta continuously attempt to get better with it in the series, thus making it a lot harder to master
Here’s my idea for Super Saiyan Blue. Make it stronger than Super Saiyan 3. But make it so it takes 6 ki bars and 2 or 3 stamina bars to transform. But no stamina drain or ki regeneration or anything. But since it’ll take up stamina to transform then it’ll be difficult to pull it off.
But if it works like in XV1, then why are there presets with Goku and Vegeta permanently in that form? In the RoF presets, the transformation was new to them. So how come only the main cast gets it permanently?
i think it should not drain but slow down your stamina regen and give you and speed up your ki regen and possibly a 10% increase to all attack (basic, strike and Ki blast)
In my opinion, for a saiyan to transform into Super Saiyan Blue.The saiyan character must have seven bars of ki and when transforming into super saiyna blue it should take 3 bars of stamina. The strength and speed of the transformation should be the same or a little bit better then super saiyan 3. Also the transformation animation should look the same as goku when he transformed in the story
Islam Mckenzie why should it take stamina? SSJ 3 is the transformation with the highest drawback on the body and yet in the Game it doesn't take your stamina bars away
Francesco Santoyo Rego the reason i said it should take at most 3 bars of stamina is because, in the anime every time goku or vegeta turn super saiyan blue it uses alot of stamina when transforming into super saiyan blue.
I honestly wouldnt want anything draining while im in the transformation. I personally i hate having to worry about a fight then also worry about my shit draining. I really wouldn’t want a drain on ssb.
Drag Gamer tru but in a game I wouldnt want that. Thats honestly why i dont use majin or namekian transformations. I dont use those races tbh with you.
It may go with the show but draining would just make it another kaioken and as it stands nobody really uses kaioken unless there trolling, plus if they do that they would have to make golden frieza drain stamina as Well as that's in the show too.
Drag Gamer and that's fine what I should have said is very few use kaioken, and this is just me going off of personal experience but, I play quit a bit of ranked and rarely if not never do I run into a kaioken user, unless again if there trolling.
I think that it should be like hits transformation but to stamina like it cost like 4 bars of stamina to use it nd it would turn off if he's stamina broken
What they should do is not give it a stamina drain but instead make it like ssj3 but worse in that ki and stamina recovery is horrible but you are super strong so it would only be good for a small amount of time otherwise you leave yourself exposed in a way. That way it doesn't destroy competitive but is still able to be used in PQs so people can still have fun with it.
I don't think Super Saiyan blue should drain stamina because that's going to take all the joy out of it. Going back to the first Xenoverse game when we transformed into a super Saiyan it was enjoyable but it was a huge pain because we were worrying about how long we were going to stay as a super Saiyan because it drained our Ki. I think when we get Super Saiyan blue we should just raise our Ki to a certain amount to transform like maybe six Ki bars because when we wanted to transform into a super Saiyan three we had to raise our Ki bars to five. That's how I think I should go when we get Super Saiyan blue. Plus I was really happy when I found out we were getting that transformation. It's a pain that's it's coming next year which isn't too long I know but still.
Cameron B Next year tf are you talking about Blue comes out With DLC 6 at the end of next month. And you better not have making that crappy new year joke either.
You didn't have to dump points into Ki or stamina to get 5 bars though unless your QQ Bang or clothes reduced them. From level 1-50 your ki and stamina increase passively all the way up to 5 bars. o.o
Maybe you can train with whis by only being able to snap vanish and do anything that does not show ki outside your character, because ssb is all about ki conrtol. You fight whis a couple times and you can unlock it imo
Earthlings get a Great Saiyaman form that comes with different combos or a max power form similar to Roshi. Frieza race get a 5 form transformation that's gonna be strike based similar to Cooler's and looks vary depending on what Frieza race suit you're wearing and what head type you have or a 100% full power form. Namekians get red eyed Namekian form or a super Namekian form that gives you white aura similar to potential unleashed but has small amounts of electricity like ssj2. I wish they got rid of stats gear and just gave us more attribute points tbh.
xxx xxx in the show its their strongest form but in the game it's only good for ki blast builds. I love the combos for the frieza race but I hate to have to use potential unleashed all the time if I wanna have a strike build. If anything they could give us a buff form like frieza has for strike skills
xxx xxx well if frieza trained more he could probably attain at least two more transformations cuz golden is the result of only three months of training
You stamina regents much slower like ssj 3 does for your ki, and its the same strike power up as a super saiyan 3 and a 20% power up in ki attacks and your ki regens the same as base or regular super saiyan
Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan should require 6 key-bar for transformation.. Animation should be like resurrection F movie you know all covered in light ki and then layer goes off piece by piece...which would require time but at that time player shouldn't get his stamina broken... Obviously buff up than ssj3 and potential unleashed but stamina recovery should be slow after half battle or something like while fighting against opponents it uses more stamina than normal you know..except for z vanish or evasive skills.
They should make it to where you have to spend a certain amount of stamina to transform like ki with ssj but it takes longer to fill up your stamina like it is with ki for ssj. If they make it to where it’s just a level increase with a huge cost then you might as well just go ssj3 with no repurcussions and basically the same power boost
xCCx Beast but then nobody would use it over potential unleashed or future super saiyan in pvp cause we all know pvp in this game is a battle of stamina not skill. I want ssb to be the exact same as golden form but buff strike skills instead of ki blasts. That would be the perfect balance since even in the show they are meant to be on pretty much the same level (power wise). Plus in the show golden form drains frieza's stamina just as fast as ssb. So why make ssb affect stamina in the game when golden doesn't? That would be the opposite of balance
I think it would be cool if when you transform you have to hold the button down and then a blue colour has to go through all your ki bars to transform Or when you transform you get temporary ki bars which slowly drain stamina Like if you agree
Even though this might not happen, add a transformation icon in the customization menu that allows you to tweak how you use super saiyan blue. If you want high power and speed, then it will cost you ki and stamina recovery time. If you choose to be conservative, then you will have faster ki recovery time. Now that is what I call amazing ki control. While they are at it, they can add unique super saiyan hairstyles so your hair doesn’t just change color.
Maybe it could like half stm regen and double ki regen, with a 20% to ki supers and 5-10% strike supers. I just dont want it to drain anything so i can stay in the form for as long as i want. (also it should change fight stance like ssj3 & golden)
It should have you regain ki faster but lower stamina recovery like ssj3 and do the inverse of ssj3 which would be 20% ki blast buff and 10% strike buff.
Also i can see why people think it’s a problem but then again you gotta realize 2 things: 1.) the reason saiyans have so many transformations is because they have always been the key focus to the show. 2.) what do they realistically and logically think they could add for another transformations that would make sense? Maybe all the forms for freiza race but that would take a long time way longer than February which is when we are suppose to get dlc 6
This is ssgss we’re talking about so I think saiyans should double they’re Base form attack and maybe a slim speed increase but not as much as golden form
Well think about it, this is super saiyan GOD we’re talking about and ssj3 is a 30% increase to attack so if I were to “rethink” that I would say a 80% increase in power and even if it isn’t a speed increase, I’m ok with at least a 50% but at most a 80%
I'm wanting to say that it might be a thing where, like Kaioken, your transformation is stronger the higher your ki, but the more power it takes from you. Maybe instead though, it's a deal where it's a fixed ki transformation, but the longer you're in it, it starts to put a strain on your body. Or maybe using it very often is just not a possibility, to make incentive to save it, and since like what was said before, it takes a lot out of you to just turn it on and off all over the place. Those are just a few thoughts.
I'd say just bring in Ultra Instinct. It can be used by any race, so that handles that. Have it give some stat bonuses, and have an auto dodge thing like expert mission bosses. To balance out, it has an activation cost, not just a requirement. 5 bars are used up to activate it (can be charged back up, but no ki build on basic attacks.) Once activated, stamina drain will be redonkulous. Cannot deactivate yourself, and once it runs it's course, you're left as drained as Goku was with no ki and stamina broken.
First keep the stat increase of Super Saiyan 3, but take half your stamina, and half your ki. While the transformation you have the stamina recovery of Future Super Saiyan, and the Ki restrain of potential Unleashed. That way you you know when you transform you don't start out with all of your key and stamina to Nerf it, I would rather have ssj4 (WITH MOVEING TAILES LIKE ON GOKU AND VAGETA) because you know it looks cooler in my opinion
ok mine first make it cost 6 ki bars and like 3 stam and no ivincibility frame so you cant just spam it no damage reduction but increase ki regen and stam regen by a tiny bit giving it stam drain would just kill the transformation alternatively make its as strong as the show like 200 boost to all but make it pve only
I think it should give saiyans a 20% boost to Ki and a 25% to strike, and it costs 3 stamina and 6 ki, so it would be similar in power too the golden form, while I think we should balance the other races in the game
Here's what they need to do for super saiyan blue as well as the rest of the saiyan exculsive transformations. Get rid of future super saiyan and super vegeta. Make it were super saiyan levels 1-3 give a equal boost to strike attacks, ki blast attacks and basic attacks. So for example lets say super saiyan 3 gives a 20% boost to all three. Make it so there's reason go super saiyan 1 or 2 and not just jump to 3(perhaps have a slower stamina recovery for each level which would create a risk verses reward scenario which adds strategy to what level you want to transform to). Then make it were super saiyan blue is a cosmetic option for saiyans that overrides the super saiyan transformation but follows the same rules that I mentioned above for super saiyan levels 1-3(so if you use 5 bars of ki to transform to super saiyan blue you get the same bonuses and penalty's that super saiyan 3 gets and so on). On top of that let us choose the animation we want to have when we transform. For example let me have the future super saiyan animation for my character when they transforms to super saiyan blue. They could also do this for super saiyan god, super saiyan rose and super saiyan 4. There I just made a perfect solution that makes everyone happy. Everyone gets the transformations that they want and as long as super saiyan levels 1-3 are balenced then these transformations are balanced.
The form should use a certain amount of stam to transform. If I remember correctly Future SSJ( was like melee recovery) Super Vegeta ( was blast recovery ) SSJ3 ( Just a multiplier) So blue should focus somewhere, speed and other stuff. Add a multiplier somewhere but balance it.
I think that Namekians should get the Clone ability and the Fusion ability so that they won't be outclassed by the other races. The way they could work is the Clone ability could allow the namekian to 'spit out' an exact copy of themselves (accesories and all) that is ai controlled, but halfs the attack power, defense, ki, stamina, and health of bothe the clone and the Player. The player could then use the Fusion ability to 'absorb' the clone and put their stats back to their original levels.
Super Sayajin Blue - Larger damage boost than other forms, bigger aura... in return, a stamina drain to keep it up, longer transformation sequence (So you can't toss it up, rushdown, and drop it) and you take either a little more damage while using it (Since you're focused on attack) so you have to be more skilled with it. Would be OK for PVE, and balanced for PVP. Just a thought.
The animation could be like Goku's in the Movie. Your body turns blue then it breaks off like ice, from the feet up, then a blue aura appears.
I do have a really unique idea though. SsjBlue can give a little bit bigger boost than ssj3, and when your stamina gets lower, the boost gets lower. So 1-2 bars will give a ssj1 boost, while having full stamina will give a full boost.
J-man sociopath This is a really good idea. Why doesn't this comment have more likes? Lol
NorthDakoko Thank you!
I like the idea but at the same time I don't. The only problem I see is that you would then get competitive online players to re-build their characters for Maximum stamina usage And crush all other races.
XIII most players build for max stamina anyway. At least most of the ones i played against.
Really good idea best I heard
db fans: GIVE US SUPER SAIYAN BLU
also dB fans: WAIT NO IT MIGHT BE OP
Does anyone Care artist too true but still it would be awesome
We need spiky hair's before blue comes or else It will look so bad in some hairs :p
Bro I'm guilty lmao. The only reason I wish they wouldn't is because I KNOW dimps gunna fuck this up..
+Kakakarot Cake LMAOO exactly.... tired of looking like a generic saiyan goof.
fuck super saiyan blue, i want majin rage.
Hope they add Jiren's wig.
Jirayen i do too
Jirayen you mean the top of his head?
Teen Hokage no actually Jiren has hair it's just invisible and made of diamonds because every knows Diamond is unbreakable....
Jirayen that's messed
Jirayen W
Super Saiyan Blue
- 5 Ki Cost
- Long transformation time
- 3x Speed
- Strike & Ki blast attacks 20% increase
- Slowest stamina recovery
- Fast ki recovery
- Ultimates cost less ki
- Weaker guard
Markpjetri Mark Bro... That's perfect, I've been thinking of ways to make it balanced without being op, but this is perfect. The transformation would be usable without being op and it would take skill to use.
Phalse Icon1c take skill to use? Why would it have to take skill when none of the others have to? The best way to balance it without this confusing mess of changes would be to make it the saiyan equivalent of golden form except buff strike skills instead of ki blasts. Golden form is perfectly balanced and all it does is boost ki damage and nothing else (except speed to I thing but that dosent matter) so ssb would be balanced as well if they did it the same way
Madara 1096 The reason I rather it take skill to use, no shitty spam when I fight pvp. I know you most likely ran into people who either do one or two things when they go ssj3, the first go ssj3 when they feel desperate and get beat worse, or someone who goes into the form but have very shitty stamina management. Or those small few who goes in and out of the transformation just for super armor... What I'm saying is that I rather this transformation take skill instead of being a spam or a transformation that you go into just for the hell of it like potential unleashed. A example, how many male majins do you see in pvp, then ask how many of those male majins use purification, then ask yourself the final question which one's use the transformation correctly to its full use. Same could be said about the giant form from Nemakians
Madara 1096 that was a nice try, but I am assuming you’re forgetting people like to abuse sledge hammer...
just remember that 🤨
Mr. Smokeytoke007 plenty of ki blasts moves can be abused to
All races are cheated imo. Yeah all races didn't get much shine in the series but they give you enough to work off of. Namekian fusion , master roshi buff transformation , buu absorbtion , frieza race first 3 transformations. For a game focused around character creation they dropped the ball in alot of areas
Mike Hadley yeah like they really shouldve had frieza races create their first form and then have the ability to create a CaC for their final form
how/who would you fuse with?
Mike Hadley xv3 will probably improve matter of fact I'm sure it's there maim selling point
Who U Gonna Fuse With? Who U Gonna Absorb? Lmao
Previous Xenoverse Character from 1
What I hope for
Saiyans:Ssb
Humans:Can Become Androids/Buff form/Multi Arm/Maybe Pure Progress
Namekians:Red eyes
Frieza:they already have golden but maybe final third and second form/Or Cooler's Metal Robotic Form/True Golden Form/Buff
Majins:Maybe a Supreme kai type of transformation/Absorbing people like super buu or just Super Buu/Fit/Grey Buu
HailedSpace 25 I wouldn't mind a super buu form for majins. That would be pretty badass!
Dylan Reed oh yeah let me fix that
Humans get buff like roshi
I like this!
I hope for the male majin they can be skinny, medium, and fat
What i want for ssb
- Awsome Transformation Animation
- A Little Better Stats Than SSJ3
-Drains Slow Stamina Recovery
-Increase Ki Attack Damage
-Train With Whis To Achieve It
- 6 Ki Bars Required To Transform
DBZYosef That sounds great actually. You should work for Bandai Namco!
DBZYosef no stamina drain just slow stamina recovery
Ima Edit that out yeah
Ima Edit that out ya since in the anime it was hard with recorvey
Dave Ayrhart any way
It doesn't bother me that saiyans have the most transformations, and or advantages that the other races don't. I mean, the show is based around A saiyan so...
But other races do have transformations they just not talked about or focus on as much
TATOR TOT idgaf Who is the star of the show this is the game They can be way more fair but they can’t bother to look through the manga or anime or even just going to the wiki to look up more forms for these characters the six witches technique is a thing buff roshi is a thin Androids are a thing and fusion is a thing as well as red eye namekians and the fit buu in super or 100% form and true golden Frieza
Drag Gamer I get where you're coming from, but seeing the lack in creativity that they put towards the transformations for other races in the game in general shows you that, their mindset isn't the other races.
Its unfair to the other character choices.
There's tien's four or six armed form (th-cam.com/video/nrD3DURxjr0/w-d-xo.html ), and master roshi buff form for humans. Namekian fusion or the red eyed form from heroes for Namekians, 100%(buff form) or meta form for frieza race, Buu when he got skinny in super or absorption for Majins(it can work to something similar like Kirby in smash bros th-cam.com/video/4LY7fs6EqTk/w-d-xo.html ) The problem would be solved if they do something like this 🤷🏽♂️
If SSB transformation drains stamina then that's bull shit Golden form for Frieza race don't waste stamina so SSB shouldn't
Michael Juarez exactly!
Why doesn't super saiyan 3 drain stamina? Since according to goku's words "its takes a serious toll on your stamina and ki"
and golden drains much faster in the anime so blue shouldn't have that
Nigga y'all have 5 transformation.
but they not the same race so like if a wood sword and a metal sword if u slice 'em really hard on something the wood one could break but metal could just been scratched twoo things have different advantages and disadvantage
like golden form relays on power more than stamina like when friezer got to a certain point where he was so weak he de-formed in to final form
If we have a ultra instinct form in xenoverse it's not super sayian so every race can have that awakening skill
Aleku villegas ultra instinct on CaC will never happen
Nigel Reginald Augustus-Bakersfield
Famous last words. Lots of people said that Golden Form wouldn’t happen for Freiza’s race, especially in XV2. Others have said that SSJB wouldn’t happen, especially in XV2. We now have Turn Golden and leaked information about a potential SSJB transformation for DLC Pack 6.
The question isn’t if Ultra Instinct will become an awakening skill, it’s “how will they implement it?”, and “how soon will it be?”. That being said, it isn’t exactly easy to answer.
Kenpai Yeah unless they come out with a form or 2 in super that is way stronger than Ultra Instinct and can be used by every race as well it will never happen.
Kenpai Like haven’t you noticed that they wait on a new transformation to come out before implementing a new transformation that Saiyans can use? The same thing happened in Xenoverse 1, Battle of Gods happened wasn’t good enough, 2 new forms in RoF happened, then they released Unlock Potential, and now Kaioken Blue x20 was shown not good enough, Ultra Instinct and possible Ultra Instinct Kaioken will be shown, now they work on adding Super Saiyan Blue, so unless another few breakthrough forms appear in the series after Ultra Instinct is over and done with, Ultra Instinct will never happen for CaC’s they will never even start a project on it.
Kenpai There will be no more dlc after 6.
Humans and Frieza race should be able to get Full power forms. Like a Buff Roshi form and max power final form frieza. I don't know what to think for Buu and Namekians. Fusion and absorption?
Joshua raymundo red eye namekians and fit buu
Drag Gamer fit buu shouldn't be a transformation.
Joshua raymundo the way they can do absorption is that you could absorb your mentors, and it's more so a power boost than a transformation since you don't absorb mid battle. But it would lock the transformation slot.
buff is what I was thinking It be weird for females thoughXD
9001Gaming that idea is badass
That face you make after the video is over and you can't laugh anymore 12:44.
Tink Tink360 gogetas combos are so cool
Tink Tink360 I
Namekians should get that absorbtion power up like the U6 ones got. Make it so in a quest a fallen namekian fuses with you.
Marek Niggington or you train with a namekian master and after you complete his training he allows you to fuse with him
Khalil Cross not if their is a cap.
Khalil Cross It'd be a special mission like the SSJ ones.
Khalil Cross it would unlock a transformation. Like you could call it “fused power” or “super namek” or something really stupid like the namekian equivalent of “become golden”
Marek Niggington Maybe make it so Namekians don't get a new transformation but become the strongest BASE race.
He said that Super Saiyan Blue should have a stamina drain but it’s been said in the show several times that Super Saiyan is stressful on the body.
I feel like Super Saiyan Blue should have a speed increase like the Golden Form does because Goku and Vegeta are obviously faster in Blue form and it should be a little stronger than SSJ3 but it should have its own Unique Boost and it’d be cool if it still had the teleportation skill that SSJ gives
xxcgodxx _ No it says the kaioken with SSB damages the body. SSB is confirmed to drain stamina by Whis I believe
So it should drain stamina (slowly) and it should also make you faster and increase ki attacks, but ssj3 should still have a higher basic attack
NTguitarfan95 tbh I honestly can’t think of an idea for SSB 😅
Nightwing52 yr right man whis said that ssjb does cause quick stamina drain
Specifically I believe he says the actual transformation drains a lot of stamina. Maybe when you do it, it should actually cost a certain amount of Ki and/or Stamina to innitiate?
It wouldn't be bad if SSJB had the same stats as PU and was just a cosmetic overhaul, but I highly doubt that.
I want ssjb to have slow stamina recovery (since it’s ki control & consumes a lot of stamina)
SSGSS Goku Do the opposite, make the SSB help with Stamina and have the damage be lessoned then make it on par with SSJ2 in strength. Ki out put SSJ Vegeta
Yeah agreed! That would make the form dangerous to use if you mis-play
SSGSS Goku I agree
I like this because you could essentially turn it into a "veteran" form. New guys will just out themselves as shit when they are getting smashed by spending their stamina, and vets will be able to really showcase ability to use stamina sparingly.
SSGSS Goku I prey they make it like this as I’ve been praying for SSJB for MONTHS.
Namekians: Fuse with Kami
Frieza Race: Final Form or 100%
Earthling: Full Power (like Roshi)
Buu: Absorptions
These are my ideas
Drakos Gaming cool ideas
Black_Son_Goku_AMV’s Thx man :)
Drakos Gaming Frieza race has golden form which is better then 100percent and it’s just as op as ssb
Drakos Gaming
Nameks: Red Eye Form
Frieza: Meta Cooler Form. (Just talk to Cooler to hook you up with that Big Gete Star.
Majins: Fit Form
Earthlings: Weapon Master Form.
Yeah right give earthling new form hahaha they are OP already people using them and play like trash with them
Namekians should get namekian fusion
(Have an animation where namekian closes his eyes u see namekians in the backround for a brief moment then boom give a purple electric aura or sum)
Frieza race should add buff form
( basic attack increase is big but big hit to speed and super slow stamina drain)
Humans should get weapon mastery
( allows humans to use swords power poles and other added accessories in the game that each have unique combo potential and extra damage if your stamina is broken u lose the form)
Buu should get skinny buu ( keeps clothes and accessory’s adds speed and basic attack damage)
The game wont come back to life if we dont take risks and new approaches outside the norm get crazy with it
Also humans can get buff forms
BLACK SAYAIN23 How about the saiyans?
Elvin R They have enough
People who don't understand why stamina drain is game breaking should stfu about all design. There is a reason why kioken builds are a joke build.
BLACK SAYAIN23 but the fusion is always active
I think that Super Saiyan Blue should be brought into the game. I also think that it shouldn't drain stamina or ki or anything of the sort. This sounds stupid but how about Saiyans at level 75 and higher can only unlock SSGSS? It is a God Transformation and I think that people should work to get the transformation.
Dylan Woods That poses a balance issue, if the saiyans get the SSB (which would have an insane boost) they would be better than every other race. It needs to be a limited timed or something unique because it’s not an easy thing to do. SSB either way will make the game Saiyan-biased.
Dylan Woods maybe not a drain but a reduction on stamina gain and a bit on ki and it should be lvl 80 or 85 (there is an achievement called super saiyan god super saiyan when you reach lvl 80/85)
You mean, "for starters, we already have Become Golden," which supposedly rivals the God Form, but can't be maintained as long, yet in X2, I can maintain it for as long as I want. I'd prefer to maintain SSB and have it with lower bonuses, rather than having it time out.
Agree
Lord Omega But not before Xenoverse 2 was released or in development, right? That, or perhaps we could have the Time Patrollers "Master" the SSB Form?
Lord Omega When Piccolo first entered the Giant Form in the 23rd World Tournament against Goku, it was revealed that the form had NO (or at least no noticeable) drawback in speed, yet we move like molasses as Giant Namekians in X2? This tells us that the game can take artistic liberties for the sake of fun, gameplay, and/or balance. Additionally, since the game was released around the end of the Fukkatsu no F Arc (DBS interpretation), I think it's safe to assume that they chose to do that more for gameplay reasons than for lore-conscious reasons.
Hatake Kyun You have to remember especially. The problem was in the show is that Frieza rushed off to earth, once he got the golden form. But stated by Goku, if Frieza would of trained just a bit longer he would of stopped the drawback. Blue is a complete other form, as even with Goku and vegeta seemingly mastered the form, it still drains stamina, which is different for Golden. But yeah we have golden, but we have drawbacks by the damage we take in that form.
Hatake Kyun You realize Frieda’s mastery of the form is proof that there is not many drawbacks to using that Form now right?
I Think ssjb is like ssj3 only for ki super because ssj3 is for strike super sry my bad english im german 😆
I disagree with it draining stamina. If they were gonna do that then the golden form for the frieza race should do the same. Cause both forms have stamina problems. But if ssgss has the drain and golden form doesnt (even though in the show it has a bigger drain then blue) then it wouldnt be fair at all. But I feel like to get the skill you need to do the training Goku and Vegeta did. Maybe a new map where you got to beat Whis with your ki and stamina bar completely drained or something. Its up to them but do something to make it unique. Im just glad these guys arent in charge of making it...
Uber Gaming Not anymore it doesn’t since Frieza perfected the form, if we’re going off the anime where it is right now Golden has almost no draw backs while Blue still has stamina problems upon initial transformation. And Keep in mind these are the mastered variants of the forms as well.
Uber Gaming Look Im a Frieza race user and if it were up to me there would be drawbacks to Super Saiyan Blue, I relish the challenge. But this is Bandai and Dimps we’re talking about to them it’s only reasonable to put a pretty hefty restriction on the form on Blue’s debut for “Balance sake” what I believe they should do is the form you cut a chunk of stamina upon the initial transformation like 4 bars or something, so it isn’t going to affect your fight other than the initial transformation.
One more thing you all should know any Saiyan users reading...This changes nothing our race will still beat you without transforming this form won’t help you win, no matter what reasonable Boost this form gives it will change nothing.
Sounds like its gonna go back to super saiyan in xenoverse 1. Then youll have to spend points on stamina just to use the damn thing. I dont want that. I just want to use it. Not having to refill it with capsules or something. Compared to golden that's unfair. Just because Frieza mastered it doesn't mean you should. Of course youd give it a drawback cause your a Frieza race so it doesnt effect you. If it has a stamina drawback then I might as well buy xenoverse 1 on pc and get a mod. No difference. If you want people to use it gotta make it so its usable. I wouldnt use it if it was set this way.
Uber Gaming Yeah I commented that wrong I meant to say I’d give it no drawbacks because it’d be fun.
Ace
At the time they added the golden form, it was when Frieza's golden form drained stamina by alot. Plus, Goku and Vegeta spam the hell out of SSB.
If ssb Goku and Vegeta doesn't have a stamina drain in game so I want our saiyan CaC's to be on that same level!!!!!!
Troy Mack That’s only because there stand alone characters and transformations
I see where your coming from but it doesn't feel that way with Ultimate Gohan and our CAC version of that "transformation" I just don't want a carbon copy of a stamina nonsense that SSJ3 provides or else what is the point? I think the Golden transformation for CaC should have a heavy stamina cost for the ki damage they get, last I check freezy pop lost because of that stamina "thingy" lol.
Troy Mack The major drawback of the Golden transformation in XV2 is that the damage you receive is increased significantly.
In my opinion a drawback that should be retweaked for stamina not more damage taken. Really doesn't make sense to me but look at the world we live in XD
I don't see it that way, there are Ki supers and strike supers more broken than transformations *cough* Kaioken *cough*
THE SAIYAN ARE TRUE RACE OF WARRIORS DON'T UNDERASTIMATE US!!
a space lizard trained for less than half a year and almost caught up with your strongest fighters who had been training for decades...
AKAGAME SHANKS you guys are literally one of the cheapest players in the game FOH B
The memories...
Mariano Ortiz how lol
freakyskull516 this guy has a point...
Just gonna put my list here
Saiyans:
SSG 3 Ki Bars, Temporary Health Regen, (once per match for a third of 1 Health bar) Stamina Regen Increase.
SSGSS 5 Ki Bars,
18%Basic18%Strike18%Ki Blasts
SS3 Stamina Reduction, No Defense Boost, Ki Regen Boost.
Majins:
Fit Majin 5 Ki Bars
Stamina Regen, Gain Some Purification abilities,
10% Basic 20%Strike 20%Ki Blast
Take 5 to 10%more damage
Frieza Race:
Meta Cooler Transformation, Gain Defense Boost,
18% Basic 18%Strike,10%Ki Blast
More Ki Regeneration, When Stamina Broken Gain Temporary Health Regen
Nameks:
Red Eye Form, (to be continued)
Humans:
Weapon Master Form,
(to be continued)
Winderfiend764 i like everything but humans
Agreed, for Earthlings I'd rather have Roshi buffness or maybe kinda fudge the canon slightly and have "Android Form" or something with really fast stamina regen.
Takumi
Buffness is something literally anyone with Ki should be able to do and Android Form seems a bit lackluster. No change at all to you visually.
They could give you the green orb thing around you that 17 has. Or make your hands kinda glow to show that you could drain stamina like the weaker androids.
Takumi
You mean the Energy Field and Hyper Drain that anyone can use?
Do you think since Golden form gives 20-30% increase in ki supers, that SSB will give 20-30% in strike supers?
Le No Spy Golden Form doesn't get a bonus in basic attacks so more than likely not.
Le No Spy Super sayian 3 gives a 20% bonus to attack and 10 to everything else. That would make Ssb weaker then ss3 not stronger.
Super vegeta gives a boost in ki blast supers normal super saiyan form 1 2 3 doesnt do anything.
Hmm thats a good question. So only make it increase strikes then? It's tough to answer that question since there's lot of powerful strike options to run. Not sure how that would balance out.
Matthew McCrell that’s not how blue works at all
A 20% boost to all stats, 2x speed, half ki cost, but a 300 stamina cost and a slow drain, and it’s harder to recover stamina. Giving it the power it deserves but balancing it for online matches.
GamingMaster654 no just slow stamina recovery
That's what I was thinking
Super Saiyan Rose Gogeta Black it’d be unusable if it was like Kaioken X 20
Super Saiyan Blue for CaCs=Super Saiyan 3+Super Vegeta 2+Future Super Saiyan+Potential Unleashed
Humans should get the Roshi buff form, the Four Witches technique, Witch Craft and Jiren's power
Namekians should get the Red-eyed form
Majin's should get Super Buu-like form
Frieza race should get the True Golden form and 100% form
Jiren Isn't A Human, Why Would They Get Jiren's Power? It Doesn't Even Make Sense As A Transformation.
Johnny Boy A. Who are u talking to? B. I doubt it'll be op. They focused a lot on balance with this form apparently.
Aytgh But for you to transform into Super Buu, an evil version of yourself has to absorb you, and take full control of your body. So should your character be controlled by an a.i.?
Ulrik Ulriksen nah, u'd just become skinny, like they did with kid buu, lol.
Johnny Boy really ssb would be nerfed
In my opinion super saiyan blue should be a transformation that you start off with a little drain then overtime you master the form and nothing drains anymore
But If They Could Do Mastery They Would've Done It A While Ago.
I wouldn't even mind that
Here's how I think ssb should be done instead of it draining stamina when in the form how about it cost 4 bars of stamina to transform because ssj blue doesn't drain stamina when in the form but transforming into the form cost a lot of stamina that's why it's not a transformation you can just keep turning on and off. While in the form your stamina doesn't regenerate as slow as ssj 3 but still very slow.
Solar animations Yes this is perfect.
Ace thanks.
Completely agree i had the same idea
Solar animations No
I agree that should balance it out some
I think there should a side story as to where you train with whis and you unlock ssb, this is where your stamina drains, then you continue to train and go back to the Golden Frieza arc and fight him, he has a shitload of health. After you defeat him, you earn ssb mastered, this where your stamina doesn’t deplete, since you mastered the form
No Name i think that would be awesome af
great idea in my opinion
See I want that to be the way you get ssj in the next game
You train with Goku to get 1 and 3
Gohan gets you 2
Vegeta gives you super Vegeta 1 and 2
You have to train with all Saiyans to get good (goku, vegeta, gohan, Goten, trunks, future trunks)
Train with whis to learn blue( fight Goku and Vegeta)
No Name so what would happen if i, a namekian did that mission?
BRALE FAIL
... You can't just like how my Majin cant train with Piccolo to get giant. And someones Freezer can Purify...
Zack Kerber so my namekian can't obtain God ki. Since when was God ki only for saiyans
No stamina decrease just bring it to 5 ki bars to transform and just a little buff higher then ss3
SSGSS_ Eli I say 10ki bars to make it difficult for the players so everyone won't be able to pull it out so fast
ShadowSpectar X• barely people go that high on ki bar it's better at 5
like all in super saiyan blue all they need to do is boost ssb where it gives you 5% ki regen and just 20% ki blast super for fuck sake
6/7 bars
xDarq 5 nobody uses high ki bars unless you are are ki blaster
I think it should be a little bit stronger then potential Unleashed (since it is Blue we're talking about) and maybe take 5 or more ki. Saying it may be broken in a RPG were you can take a hole health bar with someone that has 125 in something without transforming. Blue would be good for raids, parallel quest, and expert missions. And if you play online there is a option to take stats off since whenever you play without it you'll most likely get bodied by someone with a 125 in physical supers. Making it drain ki or stamina when super Saiyan 3 and golden form doesnt take any doesn't make sense. There isn't any damage scaling in a RPG
I'd say with Potential Unleashed being 5 SSB should be 6 when you look at Gohan vs Goku in I think it's Ep. 93
Lmao when seereax said how easy it'd be for the roshi form copy and paste, reminded me of saiyan tails 😐
I friggin love your videos with Seereax. They’re always so funny and just brighten my day.
It doesnt really matter for Majins, Earthlings, and Nameks. They already have OP combos and stuff so it doesnt really make them less OP. Frieza race already has a good transformation cause of the Ki blasts too.
ZavageSlice yea agree
Namekians don't have very good basic attack chains, you have to be reliant on your super damage to be good with them imo
ZavageSlice Exactly
Well, I wouldn't really say male Majins have op combos...
Nah, Humans have broken combos.
But Namekians really need a proper form. Red eyes from DBH or just a fused Namekian.
Freeza race don't need a new form, tbh.
Maybe Humans? Not really.
Majins? HELL YEAH. They need something.
Who cares male earthlings will never be topped anyway
I think they got topped quite a while a go. xD
Gangsta Kid iv beatin way many humans with my namik
Kin how
Other Races with good Transformations exist. Like Majins. Or Namekians. You just need to know how to use them. Earthlings don't require too much skill.
Dat profile pic, THICC and funny at the same time
I think in terms of a power boost do it just above potential unleashed which is like 15% but do a +10% additional to ki blast supers or basic attack or strike supers over top the potential unleashed boost and 10-15% reduced stamina recovery they shouldnt do a stamina drain unless its a ssjb kaiokenx20 thing
I remember stumbling upon this channel at around 10k. Just stumbled across it again... and holy wow. Good for you, keep it up!
I dont want ssb to drain stamina my reason is look at purification for majin and giant transformation for namekian. What I would want is just a swap so it would be ssj1 ssj2 and then instead of ssj3 it would be ssb so basically ssb wouldvhave ssj3 multiplier
Ditto
Afro Uchiha meh, no.
I would want to be super saiyan god 3 ki but that’d get added in xenoverse 3 probably and super saiyan blue 5 ki
Afro Uchiha I think it should have small bost's to basic attack, strike attacks and ki attacks at the cost of slowly draining your stamina but in some way have you prefect it by training some how, either ssb kioken or mastered ssb. Also I hope the game brings back the feature of transformations being shown in cutscenes like XV1.
What they need to add is a defense stat and a new lvl cap in order to balance everything.
I feel in a later dlc or xenoverse 3 they should allow Ultra Instinct as an all race transformation, cause just like PU only gohan has it and he's a saiyan, but it's not a saiyan exclusive thing
Lidier Reyes dude l hope not
Lidier Reyes heck no
You got Data Input, that's enough
NerdGamer 274 barely anybody uses data input but otherwise your still right ultra instinct better not be in xenoverse 3 if it comes out
goku black it doesn't have to be some ridiculous thing you know, that's what balancing and game design is for. It's like saying SSB Vegito shouldn't be in the game cause he's ridiculously strong
goku black true, but not the point
It's good enough for people to at least have something similar to Ultra Instinct
It should be an extra addition to super saiyan, super vegeta, and future super saiyan just it has to have a slightly different animation but only a slightly stronger than ss3, sv2, and fss1
If it's slightly stronger in your version then would it matter if it was a addon to regular SSJ? God wy are people making this FUCKING COMPLICATED!!
I miss read just saw that sorry. :}
But yeah i agree with you 100%
Naw your tripping
I don't like their idea of stamina drain or less ki consumption, like is not Kaioken, its a Super Saiyan with God ki, so it would make gaining stamina and ki harder but it wouldn't take or give you more. I don't know what seereax was thinking but its not worth over complicating it. Plus we have seen in the series Goku and Vegeta going from Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 (Only once we see him use ss3 then SSGSS), straight to SSGSS so why should we not have that plus have it have a different mechanic when dimps felt SSGSS was normal enough to put as a transformed character slot plus, the files in the Xenoverse code just show it as a more powerful SS3 but same gimmick just blue normal hair.
I think for super saiyan blue they should start it off as a quest or mission that you train with whis, beerus , goku, and vegeta and its free for all so everyone is fighting each other and the first time you train with them you may or may not be able to transform into blue and if you don't then you have to keep training with them and if you are able to use it then it drains your stamina and gives you little to no bonuses basically its a burden on your character which means saiyan can't use it online and it may be risky to use it on missions so that urges players to keep training with whis, beerus, goku and vegeta to learn how to use it better and over time your character's ability to properly use blue will get better and better slowly gradually over time and with this people who get mad saying blue will be over powered it won't be unless the person actually earned their way to being strong unlike all the other transformations where you just transform and you get bonuses on the spot. With blue you have to earn your way up to be the best
This Sounds Like A Good Idea.
At first reading it I was like no... But once I got half way through, this is a really dope idea. It makes you feel like you earned something for once in the game
Legendary Super Saiyan God Dumb idea...If that was the case, then it should have been the same for super saiyans 1, 2, And 3. SsB is a GOD form. Therefore it should have great bonuses. Should be better than ssj3. Just like in DBS. Ssj3 couldn’t even touch Beerus. Regular ssg could fight beerus. SsB would be at least a match for beerus. Which is why ssb should have some nice boosts
Legendary Super Saiyan God its part of the paid dlc most likely
Legendary Super Saiyan God i think they should train against goku then vegeta and give you ssb then fight vegito as ssb like you did for frieza
Maybe humans can gain swordsmanship as an awakening skill and use the Z-sword because it is a longer sword than Trunks' sword so it would also give them more reach and a boost in basic attack but all of your supers and ultimates and super are replaced similar to giant and purification forms.
*Xenoverse 3*
Transformations:
Saiyan: Ssj 1-3, Ssj Vegeta 1 & 2, Ssj 4, Ssg, Ssgss, Lssj, SsjRose'
-DLC: ssgss-Kioken, Ultra blue (vegeta), and SsjRage for CaC
Frieza: Cutom Transformation, Final form, Golden form
Humans: Power Pole, Four-Armed
Namekian: giant form, super namekian/ Kami absorbed
Majin: purification that keeps your moves and apparel
All Races: Pure progress 1&2, Kioken, Potential unleashed, and Evil (Ultra Instinct, if they can make it not super broken--or perhaps just for a final story mission)
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Customization:
-Android Race (see DB Heroes)
-Add Beerus' Race (Just because)
-Add super buu (male) option, in addition to Fat buu. And vice versa for the Female majin
-10+ new hair styles (toggle hair change when transforming)
-Pointed "Kai" ear options for Saiyans & humans
-Third "Tien" eye, scars, tattoos, Krillin's dots, etc. in their own category when creating (can have more than one)
-Additional height(s) "Bojack sized"
- New body types (Child, chubby, etc)
-Hair that moves (See Naruto games)
-clothes that moves more fluid (again, see Naruto)
-Cutsom Auras
-5+ new Race specific outfits per race
-Once Unlocked by that race, Race specific outfits can be used on any character
-Colorable versions of cast character outfits (Goku's gi, Zamasu's gi, etc)
-Purchasable option to make a clothing item "metallic", but still colorable (Zeni or Tp medals, not real currency)
- Accessory locations (Face, head, back, chest, etc), One in each slot available.
-ANIMATED TAILS/ Colorable (literally see ssj4 Goku's tail)
-NEW Acessories, time breaker mask, more scouters, headbands, earrings, POTARA EARRINGS, animated wings/more wings, backpack/backpack with Dragon Balls, etc
-More outfits, Time breaker Bardock, merged Zamasu, Tapion, Angel outfits, etc
-Toggle amror to get battle damaged as fight goes on/ obtainable battle damaged armor.
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Combat:
-Colorable Moves (unlockable)
-Option to take on the fighting style of your mentor
-Custom Stances
-New Moves
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Other:
-More fighting stages (And more with each dlc, Kami house, tournament of power, Whis training area, etc)
-More destructible fighting stages
-Cutsom parallel quests (Sequence, location and opponents. Only dialogue is typed out by player)
-New Game types (2-8 player free for all, 3v1 boss *three players against one boss npc*, Impromptu matches in Conton City (new arena area), etc
-Decisions in story make greater impact
- New story, not just rehashing the DBZ/DBS narrative
-Larger player Roster
-Not that it's necessary, but clans of some kind. Get your own outfit options that have a custom symbol on it, and their own play space. Could be interesting.
-Mods after final DLC, so whatever the developers didn't put in could be put in by the kind modding community
Freiza race: 5th form
Namekians: Fusing with another namek( random character)
Majin:Super like super buu/buuhan/ect.
Human:Roshi superstrong form??(you know what i mean)
I've said it before and I'll say it again Rhymestyle. They don't need to break their backs just to get Super Saiyan Blue in the game. The easiest way they could add Super Saiyan 4 and the God forms is to simply tag them onto the already existing Super Vegeta and Future Super Saiyan lines, giving all three types of Super Saiyans for the custom characters three branches to transform to in battle. Super Saiyan 4 can go to the Super Vegeta line of transformations since that line is about stronger ki blast supers, and the games usually treat Super Saiyan 4 as having the most devastating ki blast attacks. Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue can be attached to the Future Super Saiyan line since that line is less about increase in power and more about ki management due to its higher rate of ki regen on melee hits compared to the other two lines. They don't need to go insane trying to balance these forms into being unique transformations when they have all the stepping stones to add them as I mentioned in this post. This saves them time and effort in adding the forms but still making sure they're balanced.
keybladeoverlord Nobody is going to read your post and change up dlc 6, just let it happen.
No need to be rude my dude. If I sound slightly annoyed in my comment here, it's because I was and still kinda am because this is something I thought of months ago that seems like the easiest solution for Bandai Namco for adding the Super Saiyan 4 and God Forms to the Custom Saiyans. To me it just doesn't seem worth the effort to make them into their own unique transformations when the can save on a lot of the work by doing what I suggested in my comment as it could really help get past that whole issue of figuring out how to balance them. Whatever happens will happen and I'll live with the results, until then I'm just saying what I personally think is the best option which Rhyme encouraged the audience to do in the comments.
This Doesn't Make Sense Because A. Future Super Saiyan Is Based Off Future Gohan's Transformation. B. SSJ4 Has Never Been Shown To Be Transformed Into From Any Other Transformation.
The Games have had Goku and Vegeta transforming into Super Saiyan 4 from other forms before, hell Budokai 3 which was made by DIMPS who are the makers of Xenoverse 1 and 2 had that able to happen. While you do have a point with A, Future Gohan's is still the normal Super Saiyan transformation. Honestly Future Super Saiyan is practically pointless as it is now as it doesn't give enough of a boost to really matter and its gimmick of faster ki regen from melee attacks than the other forms isn't all too spectacular. At least by my mentioned method, you can add the God forms to the game and still have them be balanced since Future Super Saiyan is based around ki regen instead of big boosts to power like the other two transformation lines are. Since Super Saiyan Blue is based around Ki Control, it already makes sense to put it onto the Future Super Saiyan Line. From narrative standpoint it might not make sense, but from gameplay standpoint it does. I'm sorry but this is a case I'd rather put ease of access in gameplay over the narrative standpoint. Besides, this is a video game, it's not really affecting the canon of the series.
But U Forgot, SSJG And SSJB Are Both Huge Power Boosts. Lmao. Also If I Rememeber Right, Future Super Saiyan Also Has A Passive Ki Regeneration.
Truthfully if Saiyans get ssb I think a fair trade would be if all another races got Pure Progress.
theres nothing stating that pure progress isnt exclusively namekian, also does anyone actually know what pure progress does in xv2? cos i dont
DeadToMe what??? Pure Progress is Hit's transformation. I was simply stating if the Saiyans got another transformation, at least give the other races another one as well. And I don't think I'm alone in saying I'd live to have Pure Progress on my CaC's.
Monkey McCullough I would prefer something more flashy for my Majin. Well at least it ain't turning into another character.
I think with super saiyan blue it could be 2 times basic attack kind of like the times 2 golden frieza race form then to balance it it could take 5 ki and give like a 1.2 or 1.3 ki blast multiplier and -1.2 of -1.3 multiplier to strike supers so it kind of balances it out
If i was to stick SSB in, i think these would be its “stats”
-5 bar Ki activation required
-Its stat increase would be similar to a slightly stronger potential unleashed, but with the ki recovery of super saiyan 2.
-Finally, instead of a stamina drain, maybe you lose access to 3 bars of your overall stamina while activated?
I think the golden transformation should do the same stamina drain as you're saying for ssb
Tiny Rick i 100% agree
Tiny Rick then it should also be buffed
Disagree since Freeza seems to have mastered it now. It drained fast because he didnt give it a chance to get used to his body and immediately went after Goku. W/ SSB, you can see Goku/Vegeta continuously attempt to get better with it in the series, thus making it a lot harder to master
Rhymestyle i meant for the CAC's, also I'd rek you in xv2 just sayin
+ Tiny Rick delete that reply dude, come on
How about giving the Earthling unlock potential and the namekians some kind of God form in the Frieza race first form second form in third form
velenessia antoine potential unlocked is already in the game and it can be used by every race
Here’s my idea for Super Saiyan Blue. Make it stronger than Super Saiyan 3. But make it so it takes 6 ki bars and 2 or 3 stamina bars to transform. But no stamina drain or ki regeneration or anything. But since it’ll take up stamina to transform then it’ll be difficult to pull it off.
But if it works like in XV1, then why are there presets with Goku and Vegeta permanently in that form? In the RoF presets, the transformation was new to them. So how come only the main cast gets it permanently?
i think it should not drain but slow down your stamina regen and give you and speed up your ki regen and possibly a 10% increase to all attack (basic, strike and Ki blast)
In my opinion, for a saiyan to transform into Super Saiyan Blue.The saiyan character must have seven bars of ki and when transforming into super saiyna blue it should take 3 bars of stamina. The strength and speed of the transformation should be the same or a little bit better then super saiyan 3. Also the transformation animation should look the same as goku when he transformed in the story
Islam Mckenzie why should it take stamina?
SSJ 3 is the transformation with the highest drawback on the body and yet in the Game it doesn't take your stamina bars away
Francesco Santoyo Rego the reason i said it should take at most 3 bars of stamina is because, in the anime every time goku or vegeta turn super saiyan blue it uses alot of stamina when transforming into super saiyan blue.
Islam Mckenzie So he said about SSJ 3 and still in the game it doesnt take stamina so it should not be required for blue either
I honestly wouldnt want anything draining while im in the transformation. I personally i hate having to worry about a fight then also worry about my shit draining. I really wouldn’t want a drain on ssb.
Jason Roman-Deleon but it goes with the show
Drag Gamer tru but in a game I wouldnt want that. Thats honestly why i dont use majin or namekian transformations. I dont use those races tbh with you.
It may go with the show but draining would just make it another kaioken and as it stands nobody really uses kaioken unless there trolling, plus if they do that they would have to make golden frieza drain stamina as Well as that's in the show too.
Dallas mayhak I use Kaioken but not as trolling
Drag Gamer and that's fine what I should have said is very few use kaioken, and this is just me going off of personal experience but, I play quit a bit of ranked and rarely if not never do I run into a kaioken user, unless again if there trolling.
I think that it should be like hits transformation but to stamina like it cost like 4 bars of stamina to use it nd it would turn off if he's stamina broken
TheGuyWhoShotHarambe exactly
I hope it would be just a little bit stronger than ssj3 but they could update the other races
What they should do is not give it a stamina drain but instead make it like ssj3 but worse in that ki and stamina recovery is horrible but you are super strong so it would only be good for a small amount of time otherwise you leave yourself exposed in a way. That way it doesn't destroy competitive but is still able to be used in PQs so people can still have fun with it.
I don't think Super Saiyan blue should drain stamina because that's going to take all the joy out of it. Going back to the first Xenoverse game when we transformed into a super Saiyan it was enjoyable but it was a huge pain because we were worrying about how long we were going to stay as a super Saiyan because it drained our Ki. I think when we get Super Saiyan blue we should just raise our Ki to a certain amount to transform like maybe six Ki bars because when we wanted to transform into a super Saiyan three we had to raise our Ki bars to five. That's how I think I should go when we get Super Saiyan blue. Plus I was really happy when I found out we were getting that transformation. It's a pain that's it's coming next year which isn't too long I know but still.
Cameron B Next year tf are you talking about Blue comes out With DLC 6 at the end of next month. And you better not have making that crappy new year joke either.
You didn't have to dump points into Ki or stamina to get 5 bars though unless your QQ Bang or clothes reduced them. From level 1-50 your ki and stamina increase passively all the way up to 5 bars. o.o
I think it should be better then SSJ3, frieza race get true golden, humans get the roshi form, and so on
Just give all races new, better forms.
So I am still wondering if on how much obtain Super Saiyan Blue. Not like going to Level.90 or higher just Elder Kai Unlocking your Potential.
Dmitri Brutus I would say 99.
I'm hoping you just have to complete a really hard expert mission or you have to defeat a god or something and you just have to be level 90+
KYLE MCCLUE Oh Jesus, the players would literally pushed to the brink
Dmitri Brutus I mean yeah but full level 99 though seems kinda harsh maybe at least 92 93
Maybe you can train with whis by only being able to snap vanish and do anything that does not show ki outside your character, because ssb is all about ki conrtol. You fight whis a couple times and you can unlock it imo
I like it when you do videos with seereax
He is so BOWERFUL!
Earthlings get a Great Saiyaman form that comes with different combos or a max power form similar to Roshi.
Frieza race get a 5 form transformation that's gonna be strike based similar to Cooler's and looks vary depending on what Frieza race suit you're wearing and what head type you have or a 100% full power form.
Namekians get red eyed Namekian form or a super Namekian form that gives you white aura similar to potential unleashed but has small amounts of electricity like ssj2.
I wish they got rid of stats gear and just gave us more attribute points tbh.
I mainly think that saiyans should be the strongest because like thats basically what the show making it turn out beside jiren but you know
Memezter_Prodigy lol...
Isn't golden the pinnacle power of the frieza race?
xxx xxx yes so far.
xxx xxx in the show its their strongest form but in the game it's only good for ki blast builds. I love the combos for the frieza race but I hate to have to use potential unleashed all the time if I wanna have a strike build. If anything they could give us a buff form like frieza has for strike skills
xxx xxx well if frieza trained more he could probably attain at least two more transformations cuz golden is the result of only three months of training
Funkle Phil true
for me the ssjb should be a bit stronger than ssj3 , and to get this form we will need to do a giant training whit whis
You stamina regents much slower like ssj 3 does for your ki, and its the same strike power up as a super saiyan 3 and
a 20% power up in ki attacks and your ki regens the same as base or regular super saiyan
Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan should require 6 key-bar for transformation..
Animation should be like resurrection F movie you know all covered in light ki and then layer goes off piece by piece...which would require time but at that time player shouldn't get his stamina broken...
Obviously buff up than ssj3 and potential unleashed but stamina recovery should be slow after half battle or something like while fighting against opponents it uses more stamina than normal you know..except for z vanish or evasive skills.
What if they give Earthlings the Roshi max power power up
they wont cos theyre lazy
+DeadToMe LMAOO exactly.
Bandai: new transformation!
Me: ssj4?!?
Bandai: lol no scrub ssj blue prankd & pwnd
Can they give us ssj god?
DeadShotz 217 *sigh* if I see anyone comment about ssj god again ima go Ape shit
DeadShotz 217 i agree
They are watch super saiyan cabby
If they add it, I reckon it'll be like the ssj forms. So, ssj 1, SSG. SSB, ir something like that.
Honestly I would've preferred that over blue...
I truly hate that they put data input before UI because I wanted UI to become special so that's my thought on xenoverse 2
They should make it to where you have to spend a certain amount of stamina to transform like ki with ssj but it takes longer to fill up your stamina like it is with ki for ssj. If they make it to where it’s just a level increase with a huge cost then you might as well just go ssj3 with no repurcussions and basically the same power boost
I think since it is perfect ki control it should cost stamina to transform instead of ki bars
xCCx Beast I was thinking a little bit of both
xCCx Beast I like your idea
xCCx Beast but then nobody would use it over potential unleashed or future super saiyan in pvp cause we all know pvp in this game is a battle of stamina not skill. I want ssb to be the exact same as golden form but buff strike skills instead of ki blasts. That would be the perfect balance since even in the show they are meant to be on pretty much the same level (power wise). Plus in the show golden form drains frieza's stamina just as fast as ssb. So why make ssb affect stamina in the game when golden doesn't? That would be the opposite of balance
I think it would be cool if when you transform you have to hold the button down and then a blue colour has to go through all your ki bars to transform
Or when you transform you get temporary ki bars which slowly drain stamina
Like if you agree
Zenithhs no stamina drain just slow stamina recovery
Zenithhs yeah something like the Naruto Awakening when you have to charge blue up in order to transform
Zenithhs the good Tenkaichi days.
Mr. Coffee Guy exactly
Zenithhs or they could just use different button to transform into ssg and ssb
Make it like ssj3 but make it harder to get stamina but not drain it
Even though this might not happen, add a transformation icon in the customization menu that allows you to tweak how you use super saiyan blue. If you want high power and speed, then it will cost you ki and stamina recovery time. If you choose to be conservative, then you will have faster ki recovery time. Now that is what I call amazing ki control. While they are at it, they can add unique super saiyan hairstyles so your hair doesn’t just change color.
Maybe it could like half stm regen and double ki regen, with a 20% to ki supers and 5-10% strike supers. I just dont want it to drain anything so i can stay in the form for as long as i want. (also it should change fight stance like ssj3 & golden)
It should have you regain ki faster but lower stamina recovery like ssj3 and do the inverse of ssj3 which would be 20% ki blast buff and 10% strike buff.
SSJ3 actually has a 15% Stamina regen increase xD. However while in SSJ3 standing on the ground doesn't give you that extra regen boost. o.o
It should have the same boost as golden form but instead for strike
Nooooooooooooo
Cuz what about the ki blast types
It should be all around
KYLE MCCLUE Just trying to balance it, if u want to use ki blasts u could use golden form
The 3rd King yeah but still they have Saiyan ki blast types and i personally think they should boost both stats
Lr vegito blue finally confirmed!!!!
I think it should be like the Golden Form. Make you faster AND give you unique Ki attacks.
Also i can see why people think it’s a problem but then again you gotta realize 2 things:
1.) the reason saiyans have so many transformations is because they have always been the key focus to the show.
2.) what do they realistically and logically think they could add for another transformations that would make sense? Maybe all the forms for freiza race but that would take a long time way longer than February which is when we are suppose to get dlc 6
This is ssgss we’re talking about so I think saiyans should double they’re Base form attack and maybe a slim speed increase but not as much as golden form
Cbekster 9000 I think ssb should just have ssj3 stats and a slight speed increase but cost 5 stamina bars
double base attack? rethink what you just typed. I can max my basic to 125. double that I can one shot you in a 20 hit combo.
JLMoose speed for time to transform?
Well think about it, this is super saiyan GOD we’re talking about and ssj3 is a 30% increase to attack so if I were to “rethink” that I would say a 80% increase in power and even if it isn’t a speed increase, I’m ok with at least a 50% but at most a 80%
They should make ssjb as strong golden I think that's fair but maybe give gold a buff
cool kid gamer boy nk
no buff
*Bandai's been adding so may useless characters lately*
It's about time to step up their game and add Babidi
Nah we need chi chi as a character
I wanna see dende
DBZYosef farmer with a shotgun
I'm wanting to say that it might be a thing where, like Kaioken, your transformation is stronger the higher your ki, but the more power it takes from you. Maybe instead though, it's a deal where it's a fixed ki transformation, but the longer you're in it, it starts to put a strain on your body. Or maybe using it very often is just not a possibility, to make incentive to save it, and since like what was said before, it takes a lot out of you to just turn it on and off all over the place. Those are just a few thoughts.
I'd say just bring in Ultra Instinct. It can be used by any race, so that handles that. Have it give some stat bonuses, and have an auto dodge thing like expert mission bosses. To balance out, it has an activation cost, not just a requirement. 5 bars are used up to activate it (can be charged back up, but no ki build on basic attacks.) Once activated, stamina drain will be redonkulous. Cannot deactivate yourself, and once it runs it's course, you're left as drained as Goku was with no ki and stamina broken.
First keep the stat increase of Super Saiyan 3, but take half your stamina, and half your ki. While the transformation you have the stamina recovery of Future Super Saiyan, and the Ki restrain of potential Unleashed. That way you you know when you transform you don't start out with all of your key and stamina to Nerf it, I would rather have ssj4 (WITH MOVEING TAILES LIKE ON GOKU AND VAGETA) because you know it looks cooler in my opinion
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first make it cost 6 ki bars and like 3 stam and no ivincibility frame so you cant just spam it no damage reduction but increase ki regen and stam regen by a tiny bit giving it stam drain would just kill the transformation alternatively make its as strong as the show like 200 boost to all but make it pve only
For Frieza races they could do fifth and full power forms
SSB for Cac should make it to when you Z vanish, instead of 2 bars it takes 2.5 bars. When burst dashing, 1.5, Evasive, 3.5.
I think it should give saiyans a 20% boost to Ki and a 25% to strike, and it costs 3 stamina and 6 ki, so it would be similar in power too the golden form, while I think we should balance the other races in the game
Here's what they need to do for super saiyan blue as well as the rest of the saiyan exculsive transformations. Get rid of future super saiyan and super vegeta. Make it were super saiyan levels 1-3 give a equal boost to strike attacks, ki blast attacks and basic attacks. So for example lets say super saiyan 3 gives a 20% boost to all three. Make it so there's reason go super saiyan 1 or 2 and not just jump to 3(perhaps have a slower stamina recovery for each level which would create a risk verses reward scenario which adds strategy to what level you want to transform to). Then make it were super saiyan blue is a cosmetic option for saiyans that overrides the super saiyan transformation but follows the same rules that I mentioned above for super saiyan levels 1-3(so if you use 5 bars of ki to transform to super saiyan blue you get the same bonuses and penalty's that super saiyan 3 gets and so on). On top of that let us choose the animation we want to have when we transform. For example let me have the future super saiyan animation for my character when they transforms to super saiyan blue. They could also do this for super saiyan god, super saiyan rose and super saiyan 4. There I just made a perfect solution that makes everyone happy. Everyone gets the transformations that they want and as long as super saiyan levels 1-3 are balenced then these transformations are balanced.
The form should use a certain amount of stam to transform.
If I remember correctly
Future SSJ( was like melee recovery)
Super Vegeta ( was blast recovery )
SSJ3 ( Just a multiplier)
So blue should focus somewhere, speed and other stuff. Add a multiplier somewhere but balance it.
they could do a complete revamp giving everyone god forms and for frieza race just making golden form more powerful and then keep ssb
I think that Namekians should get the Clone ability and the Fusion ability so that they won't be outclassed by the other races. The way they could work is the Clone ability could allow the namekian to 'spit out' an exact copy of themselves (accesories and all) that is ai controlled, but halfs the attack power, defense, ki, stamina, and health of bothe the clone and the Player. The player could then use the Fusion ability to 'absorb' the clone and put their stats back to their original levels.
Super Sayajin Blue - Larger damage boost than other forms, bigger aura... in return, a stamina drain to keep it up, longer transformation sequence (So you can't toss it up, rushdown, and drop it) and you take either a little more damage while using it (Since you're focused on attack) so you have to be more skilled with it. Would be OK for PVE, and balanced for PVP. Just a thought.