Beating A 40 Year Old Computer...That Cheats - North & South
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- Step back into the American civil war with one of the first real time strategies ever made. Watch as I play against the mighty Amiga 500 and 512kb of RAM!
For the modern version of the game, playlist is here:
• North & South
I looooooooved this game, and still do. It was, for me, the Total War of the era when I only had an Amiga.
@@ctw30002000 way ahead of its time.
This was one of my favorites to 😊
i played it with my friend Stepan 1v1. my Most prominent memory is him always destroying my gun squad with the sabre cavalry
"Only"? Man, dont disrespect that legendary piece of hardware.
Always chose the South😎👍
I also loved this game. I played it on the Amiga 500. I always hated that the computer could control all the forces in the battle but the player could only control one.
One day when neuralink becomes common, revenge will be ours!
The trick was to keep switching between inf and cannons, and ignore the inf unless you had a clear shot and/or the rest where dead…
This is one of the first games I recall playing as a young lad in the 90s. An absolute masterpiece of its time.
"Have that, you b*tch. Brilliant." - Some Union General
Loved this. Thank you, algorithm.
@@Carlsona512 it's important to be authentic to the era!
Absolutely no clue what I've just watched, but i watched it
@@bucu123456789 my childhood and one of the reasons I love gaming! What was your first game?
same
@@ThanetianGamingan awesome classic
Yeah this. WTF is this game?
@@Taffer-bx7ucA strategy arcade game based on a series of Franco-Belgian comic albums. With quite shallow strategy.
The amount of hours I spent playing this on my Amiga500......
Absolute bastard of a game… Loved every minute of it.
@@davekincla9818 haha
Anyone who had an Amiga and didn't play "North & South" can't call themselves an Amiga user.
Yet everyone played North And South, because it was new, highly talked about, super populair and... Well.... Everybody pirated, so it cost you only the empty noname disk's to get.
I played the MS-DOS version
We played this for weeks on the C64 , one of those games that was almost as good on the humble commodore , despite crappy graphics. the gameplay was solid
Played this on my mate's A500, then his A1200 and loved every minute of it. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
During the river battles, you can cross the river via the rocks in the top of the battle. You dont need the bridge. You can also combine small armies into larger ones. Also, during capturing forts, stay on top of the wall as much as possible.
Likewise, in the desert, you can use the small stone bridge near the bottom. And you should of course change the formation before crossing.
Always knock out the artillery first with your cavalry then take out the cavalry with your infantry and then take out the infantry with your artillery. It’s how you beat the computer on hard level every time.
Yep that's what I did. I used Calvalry to take out cannons. I use cannons to hit groups to smaller size. Then I use infantry to over power what's left.
For Fort. I avoid the floor as much as I can. If I can I combined my armies.
Wasn't there a little cheat that you could do where you could start firing the artillery as it was being deployed? And since your artillery and enemy's would often be aligned you could take them out right at the start of the battle.
I got a smile on my face watching this! 😂 i played this game with my brother on our dads Amiga when we where kids. It was such a cool game 😂😂. I would love to play it again. Thank you for the vid.❤❤
There's a mobile version.
Damn, that intro music and it came right back!
This was a regular rent for the NES from blockbuster for me. It was fantastic to see the greatness again.
North & South is probably the best game of the type consisting of multiple mini-games. Very fun (at least in multiplayer, with a small group crowded around the TV and taking turns), not least because of the great humour, sound effects and artwork.
Its always weird how the computer cheats during battles. Moving all the units at the same time while player is stuck on moving just one.
The game is so easy any way. If the computer only moved one unit it would be a walk in the park. I use to play thia on my computer and i always played with 4 colors so the game was even faster. I had no change to take any fort or defend them or the train robbery but the batles was still easy even on that settings.
@@kjellegilhustad2095you're amazing man honestly. Like wow superhuman and so cool!
@@scatz4569 Thanks:)
Was great fun with a friend, not fun with against the AI, and I was about 10 years old so the memories last.
Hours of joy!
I remember a good way to win cavalry vs cavalry matchups was to line up your horsies just a pixel or two below their horsies. They you will ride into them, kill all 3, and have no casualties. Every time.
That worked against infantry as well iirc, but not cannons.
I remember playing this to death PvP on my friend's Amiga. We became pretty good at the fortress and train battles after so many hours of play too. I loved the losing cutscene with the soldier playing dead just as much btw 😁
@@D1-Games I don't think I ever saw that...the computer would get switched off if I lost!
@@ThanetianGaming Hahaha, yea, rage quits were a thing back then too. I have also pressed the big green 'reset' button on my PC in anger!
@@krdxz I'm not going to mention what happened to numerous joysticks!
@@ThanetianGaming In one particularly memorable (and hilarious) incident, I slammed my keyboard against the desk so hard that pretty much all the keys merrily flew off into every possible corner of the room. I then spent good portion of the day finding and placing them back correctly. For week or two afterwards my friends were asking me why I have loose pile of keys sitting on my desk- I suppose these were not critical to playing whatever game I was into at the moment. :)
@@krdxz Brilliant!
I'd suggest to never play online poker. You'd need to know circuitry with the...ahem, "tilt" that can bring.
Yes, this is a game from my childhood!
@@AleaIactaEst2009 thanks for that. I cam from playing the new version where it was 3 bags of gold for a new army.
I think older and possibly it is a bit faster on the emulator for forts
Wow the nostalgia! My mate at secondary school had an Amiga and tonnes of copied games - this was one of them. We had a lot of fun playing this game - despite the frustrating control (A.I. cheating) of it sometimes. It would be some time in the early 90s, about 93-94 that we played this and his recently acquired SNES..a golden time for the video game industry and kids growing up with it! Cheers for the memories!
P.S. your dry humour commentary cracks me up!
@@leod-sigefast thanks. My brother's mate's mum sold disks for 50p and handed out printed a4 sheets of all the games she had in stock. She must've made a killing selling to the whole town.
This was one of my favourite games as a kid. Great seeing it again, thanks for the video!
Forts and trains were a lot slower on the real game.
I've tried the emulation version and feel your pain trying to win a fort.
Thanks for the memories
Thanks for watching :)
So its speed up by the emulator then? Could it be pal games being run faster on ntsc?
You can also throttle the emulator to mimic the 500's performance - so the minigames aren't that fast.
@@matthiasbreiter4177 it's an all in one package with the game, I'm possibly too much of a ludite to fiddle with it. I will look though. Thank you.
@@ThanetianGamingjust reduce the cycles with ctrl F11
Pretty sure the fort and train capturing stages did move this fast on the original hardware!
@@Mikebumpful really o.O ? Old computers were insane.
@@matthiasbreiter4177 Yes, I remember those stages being much easier and more playable on the NES port where they moved at «normal» speed, compared to the A500 and PC versions.
Thank you for the blast from the past. And yes the forts were super fast back then to 😁
Played this every day once I finished school! Loved the Amiga days!!
Lol watching thise fort fights was painful, but thanks for the trip down memory-lane.
@@rpersen painful to play them too!
Ooooh, the memories.
I haven’t played that in way over 30years 🤩
Infogrames games were golden. North & South inparticular with a bit of humor here and there, and the artwork is a bow down to French and Belgian cartoonists.
We broke a few joysticks playing this, that's for sure.
@@slebbeog whatever happened to the trusty joystick? I believe if you pushed harder in a direction with them or hit the buttons harder you did better!
@@ThanetianGamingreminds me of just how durable those things were, almost impossible to break … almost 😂
Oh I remember this from back in the days of Amiga 500 ...it was son fun to play. Thnx for this 😊
Thanks for watching
this takes me back 30 years
Excellent stuff. Played the ever loving out of this game back in the day, it was one of those love & hate relationships.
Pressing the keys harder to try and move faster.
One of the great features of this game was the settings option were you could decide if you wanted to play the battles and minigames, or just focus on the strategy. Not that it's overly strategical game, but hey, the more options the better.
@@classicfrog80 It became like an American Risk when doing that.
Och boy. This one, Lemmings and Death mask, were my top bangers in the 90’s.
@@user-nx3zm3ln7m oh no it's lemmings!
I love how creative they were back in the days.
I mean.. Those games were delivered on floppy disc. 😂
Considering what they made from that very limited space, it's still awesome. 😊
@@maikh.7839 they were pioneers
I absolutely loved this game. The sound design is so iconic and memorable.
Loved this game. Played the hell out of it on my Commodore.
This came out around the same time as Prince by Graham Everett. Would have been nice if North and South had offered the opportunity to play over serial link like Prince did. My brother and I played Prince with a homemade serial link connecting a PC and an Amiga. Happy days.
@@Geokinkladze not as easy to punch each other that way!
Me and my best mate played this on his Amiga 1200. Don't remember ever finishing a battle though. What I do remember is us discovering that you could click on the photographers butt and he would giggle! 😂
Hours of childish fun to be had there!
Awesome. Played this a ton on Amiga 500 when I was a kid.
Yep one of my favorit game back as little kid! :D
Beating all my friends with 3 cannons every single time, due to knowing the range in advance in my mind lol & beating all the AI´s
Wished so more of this back in the times & sure thing we gained a few newer versions, but they should have increased the numbers & greater bigger battles & more maps, more out of everything! :)
Well the Comics North & South was really fun to read & watch.
Thank you sir for showing out a master piece for the younger generations & giving us old schools some memories back once more! :D
@@KERAAK35 thanks. My troops do seem to have short lifespans!
back to the past😊played this game soooo much as a kid👍
Thank you. I had forgotten this game until I randomly saw this vid put forward by the algorithm. I have very fond memories of this on the ST when I was a kid - including poking the photographer.
@@mikedrew604 can't beat a good poke!
@@ThanetianGaming Is probably not what your gun crews were saying as the computer's cavalry rode them down again and again...
@@mikedrew604 haha. Shh, we don't talk about that.
@@ThanetianGaming 😁
This was our favorite game growing up, kept renting it from the grocery store until mom finally bought it. Forts were hard but don’t remember them being that bad.
One of my favourite Amiga games. Although I never managed Train Robbery and Fort intrusion on the hard level.
I never made it far, I had no clue how anything worked, but this game was the most beutiful clusterfuck of minigames in my Amiga days
What a blast from the past! Amiga is probably my favourite games machine of all time.
One of the best
I played this all the time with my brother. I remember the losing screen too as you could click on one of the bodies and get a reaction
@@chriscreativecontent I never saw that. I need to now!
Amiga 500 was my first ever decent gaming system. I also had the external floppy drive and 512k mem upgrade. Well, I think it was 512k. It was needed to play 'It came from the desert.' Great game.
@@Mark-wx1ho it came from the desert. I remember that. Lobbing bombs at ants. I was too young to understand it, but loved playing it.
@@ThanetianGaming That's the one. So addictive.
I still have this and Amiga 500. Great game! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching
I used to play this so much! What a game!
Loved this game. Played it on my Amiga 500 :)
Loved this on my Amiga - used to play 2 player with my younger brother. F/A-18 Interceptor, F29 Retaliator, Populous, Powermonger, SimCity, Rocket Ranger, Indiana Jones aFoA, Syndicate, and last but not least...North & South...all games I eapecially loved
@@nickharvey7233 Populous, Powermonger and Syndicate I lost hours on too. Released today they'd still be great games.
Agreed. I too have a simulator on my PC and dip in when I should be working. Got my old Amiga back from my parents' attic last Christmas - got to sit down sometime with a knowledgeable mate and a soldering iron to get it back up and running. Want to hear that 'buzz, whirr, click, click' again- I can still remember how certain games loading sounded - Powermonger, for example, between worlds, had a machine gun judder loading sound...happy days.
@@nickharvey7233 I'd forgotten the clicking. If a game was broken there'd be a really long clicking noise as it tried to load the disk.
The music and sound effects in this game… so good!!!
@@TheSnellast they really make the game.
Cross the river to beat the cannon. You are making my immer child mad watching this
This game was one of my favourites back then. Although beating the computer in the battles was almost impossible. I used to take the bridge out and hope for the best.😂
Oh I remember this game.
It was so fun playing on the early PCs.
Well that's a blast from the past
I had an Amiga 2000 and have also did this game. Almost every time i lost.
I don't remember this game at all from back in the 80s. But just watching this gets me frustrated as hell. Difinitively the type of game that would've had me punching a hole in the door or kicking thru the plasterboard in the wall. Those mini games at the fort would've deleted all serenity from my mind.
@@cybermanne good to keep the builders busy!
I remember taking the fort was so fast on my A500 back then. Hated that Mini Game. On the C64 it was way slower. But loved this whole game anyway :)
My god I loved this game so much. Brilliant.
I loved playing that game with my mate in the early nineties. Fun to see it again. But a bit stressful when you play that bad. Haha.
But I'm sure I wouldn't do better 🙂🙃
@@hakaneriksson4674 haha. Thanks, I think...
Nothing evokes the U.S. Civil War like a Looney-Tunes "boing!" sound. 😂
Thanks for trip back memory lane :) that was one of my fav games bacj then.
I had this on the NES...had a lot of fun playing against my friends...the old days 👍
Woooow, it was great on Amiga 500. :)
Damn I played this in the 90s. Didn’t know what I was doing but I had fun.
This and moonstone were my favourites.
This was a great game! What wonderful nostalgia 😂😂😂
Awesome game. I loved it when I was a boy
I have played it on Commodore 64 and Amiga 500. So much fun. 👍😁
I was 9 in 1991. I remember playing this on the NES (I could be wrong) on a 4 inch black and white screen on a travel TV/radio set. I remember excelling at the game, albeit it was probably on easy mode.
@@Jallamedalla wow, proper old school!
God the nostalgia train is here. Man this was such a great game, even down toe random sound effects.
Not sure if you did this but if you push backwards when controlling a unit they move into column to get across the bridges and rock formations.
I tried that with the cavalry but when I changed to another unit they take their starting formation...there were a few widows that day!
The game is great.... so many hours put in it...
Controlling all the forces in the battle is not the only way the computer cheats. Also when cavalries charge each other, the computer's always wins.
But there were some tricks for the player, too. In the "plains" map you could make cavalry run, switch to artilery for 1-2 shots and the switch to cavarly again to charge before it reached the enemy. You also could start firing the artillery before the battle begins, taking out enemy cannon (or other unit) before the computer reacted. And in the maps with canyon or river you could use that the algorithm follows your moves, to lead its infantry and cavalry to fall off the cliff.
@@januszj444 a professional cheat. I like it.
I loved the game, and also the comics.
MY tactic on the levels with bridges was to shoot the bridge with the cannon and watch the computer running all in the river.
I was quite good with aiming the canon, so I could take out his canon as well, and finish the battles quick
Just LOVED this game!😊
I loved this game so much back in the day and beat it on a regular basis by avoiding attacking forts..lol
haha. Top strategy that!
This game was great against other people but a nightmare against the computer simply because it could control multiple units at the same time. I can still remember the best tactic 9n river maps; destroy the bridge and move your infantry directly opposite the ford (which is either at the top or bottom of the screen) and then shoot units as they cross, hopefully taking out their artillery with your cavalry
@@chrism7395 the computer can be deadly with artillery. Good thing they withdraw after 6-10 shots.
I played this game on Atari ST, and remember it quite fondly! The battles could be cheesed a bit by taking out the bridges with the cannon, preferably while the other sides cavalry were trying to pass over it, and then just playing defensively, a bit like you did here. Those fort attack running sequences were pretty difficult, very timing dependent.
Hey! It's been a long time since I played this ole game. Damn I'm old.
I did like this game. I think it was originally based on a Belgian comic book and a cartoon series called "Lucky Luke"
Pretty close, it wasn't Lucky Luke but "Les tuniques bleues" (The blue coats), published in the same magazine if I remember correctly.
Grest memories of this game! Then I remembered those bloody fort raids 😂. I remeber it being fast and I plsyed this with my cousin so much we were pretty dam good at it. I seem to remember luring troops and cavalry to the deaths in the rivers and canyons. Loved this game but I think my all time favorite was Moonstone, so good!
oh my nostalgia overload
Well.... The 500 were released between Q1 and Q2 of 1987. Close to but not quite 40 years old.
omg this game was so good ^^ i freaking loved it. played it on the good old Amiga 500
Everyone's talking about the emulator running too fast… The way I remember it, the fort and train capturing events did actually run this fast on the original A500, as well as on PC! I played the NES version a lot too where the pace was a lot slower, making these stages much easier!
This game was one of my favorites to play on NES.
Flashbacks galore
Not being an American or knowing much of the Civil War, I used to play this game to death on the NES. Surprisingly fun and silly at the same time.
@@buzzcomber games like this (and Civilization) gave me a love of history.
@@ThanetianGaming I never got into Civilization much but Age of Empires 2 was my history game. Used to enjoy reading the in game information.
I remember playing this. Can’t remember what computer - Atari, BBC or Apple Macintosh.
Aaaaah, my fav game on the amiga 500 back then❤
This was a fun game back in the day
i was a big fan of this game when i was a kid
Oh man. I'd forgotten about this game. Used to play the hell out of it.
that´s one of my childhood....
Some tactics for your next game: You can destroy his cannon quite easy with a long shot. Cause in the original game he allways goes for your canon first. When the cannone is gone, switch to the infantry , go for the horses, then switch to your cavalry and go for his infantry. Battle easy won. :-) The mexicans will only attack if your army stays to long in their area. As do the other engine part. Allways take the harbor quick.
@@saschafeldhaus899 thanks. Civil war won!
I used to play this game. I loved the Comic books.
I played this game daily as a kid on my XT PC.
Lol, you need to set your cavalry moving first . Then move and use your cannon. Then switch to men if his cannon aims at them. As your cavalry approaches the line switch back and use the back button to slow them up and savage his troops and cannon.
Win.
I remember playing this on my Nintendo (8 bit). I was a lot of fun.