All government and aircraft parts have to be USA made (mostly). Small machine shop I would normally turn this on a screw machine if more than xxxxxk was ordered. You run out of rpm, so cutting oil and steel cutters work great.
Lol you should see the inserts we are putting into a few panels we are making for them. Probably the most elaborate pieces of metal you've ever seen. They are 2 pieces that thread into eachother and we have to put a small dab of Castrol grease on each thread. That grease is $900. Then we pump Hysol glue into the panel around them to hold them in. The biggest panel out of all of them has probably 30 or 40 of these inserts. It's a pretty cool job though.
I am betting that it is about 20 seconds per part. I side for face off side and 1 side for cut off side, less than the main..... I'm guessing some OT. 10 hour shifts.... 5.5 shifts.
I still want to see how they make some watch screws. I've worked with 000-120 tpi, and that's a big one in the watchmaking world. Some of them are as big as a piece of dust but have all the same features.
Perfect setup for a short run where setup time is more important than parts per hour. Lots of opportunity to run this faster for longer runs including rolling the thread from an end slide and replaceable insert form tools.
I prototype a ton of parts when design phase is in heat. I'll tell you what, there are machine shops that own machines like this one and turn up crap parts. There are also machine shops that do not have this sort of sophisticated machines and turn up excellent parts. Otherwise, it is beautiful to watch.
Probably around 40 seconds maybe a minute. But times could be drastically reduced. Could also change it to a two spindle two turret machine and work both sides at the same time. Could crank these out in about 20 seconds on a wt-150 style nakamura
@@luke2026 Well, I see it as covering projects that require either really specific tolerances, or parts that aren't conventionally available (say, a weird thread pitch for the size).
@RearwardCasew1 overkill? Probably. A 12mm machine would be perfect for these things though. Ran thousands of screws on citizen A20s and L20s for medical. had some so well dialed in we would change tools maybe twice a week.
Yes, they are. My boss had me make cap screws (100 of them) on a Swiss lathe. They were pricey but not as costly as this. I think a less expensive Escomatic would be the right machine.
This must be a prototype, one off, or a very specialized screw because the old 8 spindle Davenports we run can pop out a screw like that every 5 seconds, thats why we dont take orders smaller than 100,000 pieces.
Ok legit question... formed threads are mechanically superior and can be finished with cutting. It would be total overkill for small machine screws... but is there a tool for it? Can it be done? Because I have used a sheet metal fabrication machine which had M5 inside thread forming tool.
This is very impressive machining but caption is very miss leading tho. Screws and nails are often rolled not machining for industrial manufacturing incase people outside of the field questioning
Quite the contrary! Flat heads really work best for these sizes. The smallest commonly used metric size hex is 0.7 mm. And especially in stainless screws it is very easy to round the drive. With flat head you can put several times the torque on them! I said the same thing when first started working with UHV components. Same for watches aswell.
@@irishwristwatch2487 no it’s not, yeah I detest the use of Philips screws with impact drivers because of that but on such a small screw you could easily over torque them if you wanted, I could break the screw before it strips out but you would have to be trying to do that because it would be really tight
@@BoostiverseThat’s a good point. Especially those annoying apple specific ones. ;) I really enjoy working on phones because the screws are magnetic and it’s super easy to just pop them on the tool and get them right to where they need to be. The torx and Pentalobe screws do work rather well. But especially hex is really bad in those sizes or at least not suitable for higher torque requirements.
Yeah, you use a smaller and cheaper Swiss lol. This machine is like 4x the size you would need for this part. To the point where it's kinda impressive tbh
@@EPICRANDOMGUY02Swiss machines are screw machines. The originals being Swiss machines designed for making watch screws. Never heard them called sliding head machines.
@EPICRANDOMGUY02 it's still called a Swiss. Swiss specifically refers to a moving main spindle pushing material through a guide bushing that supports the stock.
I dont think I've ever heard the term skim cut,for a finishing cut. Or cut driving slit...i dont know who does the subtitles,but i kinda expected - made in china. Nice job on the machining though 👏🏻
When Lockheed orders a fastener
All government and aircraft parts have to be USA made (mostly). Small machine shop I would normally turn this on a screw machine if more than xxxxxk was ordered. You run out of rpm, so cutting oil and steel cutters work great.
The 10k screw😂
Not even close to 10k. This is a standard threading method in the industry and is one of best ways to achieve high classes of fit.
Lol you should see the inserts we are putting into a few panels we are making for them. Probably the most elaborate pieces of metal you've ever seen. They are 2 pieces that thread into eachother and we have to put a small dab of Castrol grease on each thread. That grease is $900. Then we pump Hysol glue into the panel around them to hold them in. The biggest panel out of all of them has probably 30 or 40 of these inserts. It's a pretty cool job though.
Boss "I need 10,000 by the end of shift"
I am betting that it is about 20 seconds per part. I side for face off side and 1 side for cut off side, less than the main..... I'm guessing some OT. 10 hour shifts.... 5.5 shifts.
I still want to see how they make some watch screws. I've worked with 000-120 tpi, and that's a big one in the watchmaking world. Some of them are as big as a piece of dust but have all the same features.
Try a 0.55 UNM screw the tpi is like 203, thread depth is .0032" we had to do 32 passes at .0001" deep or it would break off.
Fun Stuff.
There’s a good video somewhere on Titans of cnc where he visits a company in Switzerland. They make crazy small stuff!
@@rickdee1983 Thats crazy impressive. We arent in temperature control so I would never be able to at my job.
Perfect setup for a short run where setup time is more important than parts per hour. Lots of opportunity to run this faster for longer runs including rolling the thread from an end slide and replaceable insert form tools.
makes me laugh anytime i see someone say its faster to make part runs up to 10k manualy
For large production, heading machines and rolled threads. But good luck getting that order. Mostly turned parts out there.
I prototype a ton of parts when design phase is in heat. I'll tell you what, there are machine shops that own machines like this one and turn up crap parts. There are also machine shops that do not have this sort of sophisticated machines and turn up excellent parts. Otherwise, it is beautiful to watch.
I'll tell you what. I mean, just tell us.
I cant believe how long it must have taken to make all the ones in the box i got from the hardware store!
Automated manufacturing is the most fascinating thing. I wish someone would make a video on how these plants and machines are designed.
And how many people to be replaced??
LETS MILLIONAIRE FIGHT
swiss machines are amazing. not a fan of dealing with all of the oil, but they repeat incredibly well
That cnc machine is insane
My question is how many (or how quickly) can the TORNOS crank them out?
Yeah it looks pretty slow. The cost of a screw like that must be pretty high for the time it takes to make one.
Probably around 40 seconds maybe a minute. But times could be drastically reduced. Could also change it to a two spindle two turret machine and work both sides at the same time. Could crank these out in about 20 seconds on a wt-150 style nakamura
@luke2026 all about setup. This is a lights out operation. So once it's tuned in, the feeder does the rest allowing operator to start another job.
@@luke2026 Well, I see it as covering projects that require either really specific tolerances, or parts that aren't conventionally available (say, a weird thread pitch for the size).
*_See:_*
The screws used in the $699.99 wheels for the Apple Mac Pro...
The doctor giving me a circumcision
Bro 😂
A million dollar machine making a screw, a very expensive screw.
Yeah but it makes it with no human interaction, and is capable of doing so in a short time. A little overkill but still a good use
@RearwardCasew1 overkill? Probably. A 12mm machine would be perfect for these things though. Ran thousands of screws on citizen A20s and L20s for medical. had some so well dialed in we would change tools maybe twice a week.
Yes, they are. My boss had me make cap screws (100 of them) on a Swiss lathe. They were pricey but not as costly as this. I think a less expensive Escomatic would be the right machine.
Whoa. That was pretty cool to watch. I didn't have a sense of scale until the end, lol. 👍
We are getting very close to having the technology necessary for a Von Neumann probe.
Bro I'm 3 bong loads deep and still think you're high for saying that
I'm so fstenated by CNC machine
This must be a prototype, one off, or a very specialized screw because the old 8 spindle Davenports we run can pop out a screw like that every 5 seconds, thats why we dont take orders smaller than 100,000 pieces.
SWEET!
Do they actually do this for mass production screws? How do those get made
So how were the screws made to assemble the screw making machine? Chicken and egg situation.
Ohhhh, die werden teuer! 🤷♂️
Ok legit question... formed threads are mechanically superior and can be finished with cutting.
It would be total overkill for small machine screws... but is there a tool for it? Can it be done?
Because I have used a sheet metal fabrication machine which had M5 inside thread forming tool.
No these are made on a cold header much faster and cheaper. This would cost a lot of money
Wow that's a lot of work for just 1 dang screw!! Yikes
This is very impressive machining but caption is very miss leading tho. Screws and nails are often rolled not machining for industrial manufacturing incase people outside of the field questioning
That's small but what about screws used in watches ?
Представляю как отреагирует дирекция узная что чувак себе саморезики точит.... )))
Mucho teton en la cabeza del tornillo!! Fuera de centro el cut off
Их проще штамповать если массово
And That's how 1000$ fasteners are made for government orders. Or you can go get one for 12.99$ at ace
That will be $8 a screw
$8? We made something similar for medical implants except it had atorx driver. $35 apiece from us, to a customer, who then sold to the hospital.
Thats one expensive screw.
2 million dollar machine to make a .10 cent screw. It'll pay for itself eventually.... I'll take an old Warner Swasey screw machine over this
Slot screws?
Next time torx, please.
Sir I'm also from mechanical background
All of that for a drop of blood
That threading hurts me .....
How small batch $600 flathead screws are made.
Китайские делают штамповкой
What's the cycle time on that thing. Seems awfully inefficient for a single screw.
Realistically? 30 seconds. Maybe less.
Can only make righthand tread for lefthand its a comepletely other machine.
Actually you flip the insert over and start your tool path from the other side lol
Такое оборудование для производства крепежа 😂
하찮은걸 비싼 기계로 존나 정성스레 만드네 우주선에 들어가나?
Ok but nobody uses flathead fasteners anymore it’s not 1933. Show us rotory broaching a hex into the head
Quite the contrary! Flat heads really work best for these sizes. The smallest commonly used metric size hex is 0.7 mm. And especially in stainless screws it is very easy to round the drive. With flat head you can put several times the torque on them! I said the same thing when first started working with UHV components. Same for watches aswell.
@@robertluo72 you’ve obviously never taken apart a phone, iPhones are all tiny Phillips and tripoint bits
@@Boostiversethose are to prevent over-torqueing. Its why philips slip so much
@@irishwristwatch2487 no it’s not, yeah I detest the use of Philips screws with impact drivers because of that but on such a small screw you could easily over torque them if you wanted, I could break the screw before it strips out but you would have to be trying to do that because it would be really tight
@@BoostiverseThat’s a good point. Especially those annoying apple specific ones. ;) I really enjoy working on phones because the screws are magnetic and it’s super easy to just pop them on the tool and get them right to where they need to be. The torx and Pentalobe screws do work rather well. But especially hex is really bad in those sizes or at least not suitable for higher torque requirements.
Most expensive screw
10$ a piece
And the cyclentime is.......
im gonne go out on a limb here and say:
that can be done cheaper xD
Yeah, you use a smaller and cheaper Swiss lol. This machine is like 4x the size you would need for this part. To the point where it's kinda impressive tbh
Only $8
Wait... screws are made in screw machines? What now? Is yarn made in yarn machines?
What do you mean? It's a sliding head CNC machine.
@@EPICRANDOMGUY02Swiss machines are screw machines. The originals being Swiss machines designed for making watch screws. Never heard them called sliding head machines.
@@davidcrawford9407 Well the CNC modern equipment equivalent of a swiss then.
@EPICRANDOMGUY02 it's still called a Swiss. Swiss specifically refers to a moving main spindle pushing material through a guide bushing that supports the stock.
@@davidcrawford9407 What are you asking me? Have you ever worked on them? I have.
😂
Straight blade no thanks
Amazing do you have a $500,000 CNC multi head machine center making some screws very nice screws though !!!!
God I hope that's magnetic stainless. Otherwise I am losing that 100%
How much does one cost in making??? Because the traditional method is way cheaper!
What is the traditional method to make a part like that?
They're made out of rolls of wire and a die
@andrewkelly2863 yea but screw machines don't make them so purdy!
Они дешёвые. Я делаю ровно такие же для стоматологии. Но не плоский шлиц, а прошивка hex.
1 винт делается около минуты из прутка
@@everythingyouneed8957old school Torbis cam machines. Used to have a bunch of them!
Boy if I could just afford that machine….
Flat head screws ?!
I dont think I've ever heard the term skim cut,for a finishing cut. Or cut driving slit...i dont know who does the subtitles,but i kinda expected - made in china. Nice job on the machining though 👏🏻
This is literally the USA but ok
China? Not even close buddy. Texas, USA.
@@Ry_Guy I'm well aware buddy. I'm on about the subtitle terminology, smh 🤦♂️
Can I join here??
That’s not true screws don’t really get made this way
I have diploma in mechanical engineering