@The Blue Wave compiling is a process of converting code written in programming language into machine code, into binary executable programs. In Gentoo GNU/Linux distribution the repository provides source code instead of binaries. And the package manager not only downloads and installs software, but also compiles it.
I would prefer a programming commentary, compiling can be satisfying sometimes, but it usually just lets me down right at the end WHY IS LLVM IS SO SLOW?
Linux dish soap got 500 different brands but they all actually make your dishes dirtier unless you specifically add in particular chemicals, and process them in certain ways and spend some time adjusting and tweaking them. Or you can just buy a regular dish soap that just works and cleans dishes without thinking about it.
@@Otome_chan311 this comment was more entertaining, easier to digest, and didn’t require knowledge on how slaves were treated before i even existed. Cool
Exactly If it works it works, maybe Linux is like 10% more efficient or some shit but I could care less, I just boot up windows and do what I need to do.
@@Ferrichrome my 15 year old computer uses lts version... And it is also same, just works..And fast But in my office pc, antivirus is itself take time to load, and don't even want to mention complence check.....
@@Ferrichrome for me it's not so much with Linux anymore about wanting to be more efficient it's that Microsoft might do something I really , really don't like and not wanting to be in a situation where my only option is to suck it up and cope with whatever shit microsoft wants to shove down my unwilling throat.
I think you're way off here. The reason people don't like it is simple - it's not intuitive. Ive used dozens of OSes and currently run MacOS, windows, and linux simultaneously in my house. And I can say with certainty there is not a single particular task, application, or configuration I have tried to do on linux without something going wrong and having to open 14 tabs on my browser to figure it out. And I've been using it for years. It's regardless of what distribution. Even very experienced computer users struggle because nothing "just works".
@@weakspirit_ I use macOS for a lot of dev work for the same reasons. Windows is great for c# development, but it doesn't really like you to develop in anything else. But even development is a massively fringe case of people. Even photo/video/design is a fringe case. That's not what 90% of people are using their computers for. Most people are doing basic things on their computer like printing pictures, surfing the web, or writing documents. And that 90% doesn't have the time or patience to try and understand why things are done the way they are. This is why the iphone was successful over android for so long (I believe android has caught up for year now). The iphone was so intuitive that the average person could pick it up without ever having used one before and do a task without issue. All the buttons and options would be where they were expected to be. Then it was only those 10% of people who needed a terminal on their phone that would complain. Honestly, I feel like I need to make a video on this. Because I have seen so many people argue for linux that make the same crappy arguments and I think they just drink so much of their own kool aid that they don't realize how fringe they really are.
@@weakspirit_ while you are correct in some aspects that it's largely a learning curve blocking many people, I still think it's way deeper than that. For example, almost everything I try and do on linux, even down to something as simple as installing an app, required opening a terminal. The GUI has almost always failed in some way or another for anything I've wanted to do. The average person should never have to open a terminal for anything. But linux users get so used to using a terminal they think that it's so easy. But the average user thinks a terminal is horrifying. That's why GUIs exist - because a terminal is inadequate for the average user. Know how you install an app in windows? Download the exe and double click. I've never once had a one click package actually work on linux. There are so many examples of things like this. Task management. Uninstalling software. Mounting flash drives and SD cards (especially when something goes wrong with them) Some heavier distros like ubuntu make a lot of progress but they are still miles away when it comes to being realistically useable by the average person. It takes far too much configuration, fine tuning, and learning to get it going smoothly and the average person just doesn't care enough to put that much time in. They'd rather just buy a chromebook so they can print their stupid Google doc.
Same here. I have experience with Windows (95, 98, 2000, XP, 7, and 10), macOS (from OS X Leopard to macOS Catalina), and Linux (first on Ubuntu, and now hopping to Solus as my new daily driver for my mid-2011 iMac). However since I have specific task needs as a university instructor, musicial, and multimedia specialist, I get programs to use so I can work on them to fulfill my jobs. The OS was never really an issue to me, although I do have a bias towards Linux and macOS since I both matured on these systems; Windows was really a relic of my childhood already. For example, my documents are made on Apple's iWork suite. My graphic design work is made on Adobe's. My video editing is made either on Premiere or on Final Cut. But I would switch to FOSS applications without any worries: just sudo install LibreOffice, GIMP/Inkscape, and Davinci Resolve and it's enough. But if I were to do paid jobs, I'd stick on tools that I know work. You don't want to lose your client simply because of your principles; media production, and everything else in life, is a game of compromise. What the OP mentioned here is solid discussion, however it goes to borderline elitism. The argument that Linux is "superior" in any point reminds me of cultural elitism and appropriation that has seriously eroded the identities of many people, including those of my country. However it is indeed correct that we tend to remain with things that we are "comfortable" with because the mental stress to face the unknown is too much for many of us.
@@martin3078 Or use a Windows™ Bug Net and you get same quality as AC and no bugs get inside! Moral of the story - Don't be stupid,don't click on all "download" buttons,use an AV and common sense. Both work well,but since Windows™ has more users (all ages) and people always found a way to hack in,thus more viruses (+ people's desire of free software) makes it look not secure. While Linux IS more secure,it's less user friendly than Windows,having less GUI,different methods for same thing,and if an update breaks something,oh well. You gotta fix it yourself! Soooooo...both OS are good. I made an aproximate percentage of how they were made- Linux - 90% software,10% design Windows - 55% software,45% design TL;DR When people like something,they hate the alternatives. W10 users most likely won't use Linux. Linux users most likely won't use W10.
You misunderstand why people get annoyed with Linux. The ruby developer understood people better. Linux should be if you want to customize it you can, but if you don’t we have a reasonable default. Most of Linux doesn’t use reasonable defaults and expect you to do all the work of setting everything up. To some this is what they want, but for others they just want stuff to work without having a PhD in computer science. The evolution mail client is a perfect example instead of just entering your email username and password. It expects you to configure the IP address for the mailing protocol. Why? Linux constantly demands that you know everything about how it works to use it. People just want a computer that works, and protects their privacy. That’s why Apple became so popular. I know they aren’t honest about how private they are, but you look down on people for not wanting to waste a bunch of time customizing. What happens if my hard drive crashes, and I haven’t backed up for several months. Hours gone, and having to recustomize shit. Package managers they are great until something goes wrong and they can’t fix themselves. Time for forums and digging crap out of your computer to get it working again and never quite being sure you got everything.
But I'd say one thing are the tools needed to do one's work on a computer, and another different thing is to customize it to your hearts content. I think this is want he meant when he asked people about "what software do they use" or "what do you use a computer for". He is probably not expecting a detailed answer about how they customize each individual theme or icon in their desktop. But rather which applications they need to do their job. Recommending a newcommer a distro that doesn't allow them to do what they need easily may deliver a less-than-pleasent experience. For example, recommending Linux Mint to someone who relies on Chrome is not great. Why? Because recently Mint removed the Snap Store from their distro and with it the straighforward method of installing Chromium. In such case, maybe recommending Ubuntu would be better. That's why is important to ask questions about usability, rather than customizability.
Yeah, the "I can't be wrong, it's you who are wrong" mentality isn't good, I've tried linux in different occasions, but never manage to use them seriously, I use OS as a mean to use other software, not for the OS itself, and if I'm enslaved, forced to learn fixes, and workarounds every single time, I'm just gonna abandoned it. I hate Windows, but at least it works fine most of the time.
@@glitchy_weasel The thing is, if you hadto know every feature or every program you are going to use ever from the start is going to be really a hard question and you are going to freeze. What if you don't do video editing usually, but maybe you want to put a video togheter in some cousin's birthday? If you're a normie it's impossible to know at what extend the decision is important or not, they need that information before the question. (Because again, you don't know at what extend the question is essential or not) With Windows/Mac you don't have to worry about it, they don't make you questions, you have all possibilities (even though, for example, some distros of Windows don't allow remote desktop with the native application) If you tell them, "Tell me wich programs do you usually use, or can't live without, so I don't give you a version that isn't as compatible with them. But don't worry, it's not a permanent decision, you can always find ways of installing almost everything", then they are going to respond accordingly and with ease. Is like asking normies about their hobbies. If they are a normie, they probably spend most of the time with social media + netflix/Tv and they won't know what to tell you apart from that. If you ask them about what they like to do, they probably have some different activity they do from time to time. (This was tested, literraly). Is not about people not knowing what they do, the problem is the language you use and how much they know
@@miguelangelmartinezcasado8935 What is a normie? For some reason I feel like it's offensive or scornful from the context he uses this term in his videos all the time. Also I wonder what he would call himself. It is clear he doesn't think of himself as a "normie" but then who is he? what is the term he uses to identify himself as? If I'd know his answer maybe I could decide whether he uses this term negatively and to look down on others or not.
I am a Linux guy and i understand why people stay with windows for sure. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. No ill will toward any computer user, we are just trying to get our work done after all
There's a subsection of the Linux community that refuses to understand that you shouldn't have to learn the command line to use your computer. I use the command line on my PC, for my use case it's very fast and convenient, but there needs to be reliable options that can get things done in the GUI for people that either aren't as tech savvy or don't have the time to put in to use it. Which, like it or not, even in some FOSS-only utopia where IP is abolished or some shit, and all OSes are community maintained, will *always* be the case. One of the greatest things about Linux is the shear number of options you have, so it is really disappointing there isn't an option with a GUI that would warrant most people switching when they get their PC like how they download Chrome or Firefox instead of sticking with Edge. Ubuntu and Mint are nice, and relative to most distros are certainly beginner friendly, but their GUI functions still aren't at the same level as Windows. As behind the times and bulky as Windows GUI is, its _functionality_ easily supersedes the GUIs for the majority of Linux distros and DEs. And whenever I say this, I get *so many* Linux fanboys down my throat claiming I'm trying to take what makes Linux great away from them, seeming not to understand that there can just be a group of distros that can be configured entirely through the GUI, and that they can keep using whatever the fuck they're using now. So many people act like making Linux more appealing requires upending all of the technical and minimalist distros, when all that it requires is that a _different_ distro works to be more accessible by most people. Additionally, I hate the attitude that it's the fault of the 99% of people that don't use Linux that Linux isn't used, as though this adds anything unique or applicable in any way. Even _if_ it's everyone else's fault for being sheep, what does yelling at everyone else for not being good enough accomplish? It's a completely unreasonable expectation, one that ensures that Linux will never become more relevant than it already is. It's the Linux community that needs to be less gatekeepy, to put together a distro that can attract regular-ass people, and take other steps to make Linux popular. Blaming everyone else for not using Linux is, above all else, narcissistic, arrogant, unreasonable, overly idealistic, exclusionary, elitist, and most importantly, childish. In other words, it is point-for-point the exact stereotype of the average Linux user. Perhaps at the beginning I should have said there are two main reasons people aren't switching to Linux, and one of them is that most people seem to think this stereotype is accurate. Unfortunately, all this video really accomplishes for anyone watching outside the Linux community is to reinforce that stereotype. And for video essays like this, how you look to people who _don't_ agree with you, or are from a _different_ community, is really all that matters. Otherwise, you're just preaching to the choir. The reason this upsets me is because I _want_ Linux to succeed, but it's viewpoints like this that keep that from happening. It doesn't have to be this way, this problem is not inherent to Linux. But the obstinance of many in the Linux community, whose daily usage could really only benefit from Linux having more mass appeal, serves to preserve the status quo. *I must add a disclaimer* that I don't think you agree with all of these different community members I mentioned above. I'm simply pointing out that I feel this video condescends towards non-Linux users, which is something I don't think has justification for any video within this community. I know that we don't have to walk on eggshells to have mass appeal in every little bit of content produced about Linux, that oftentimes communities need to be able to talk differently when a discussion is geared primarily towards members of the community, but I don't think the condescension falls in that category. On a side-note, as a CompSci major, I have had the unfortunate experience of meeting multiple stereotypical Linux users, who until learning I used Arch on my main PC, treated me like absolute shit by default, talking in the most demeaning, condescending way I've heard IRL in quite a while. What do you think would have happened if I were a Windows or Mac user currently considering switching, and encountered people like that? I think people like this are the inevitable outcome of a not-insignificant portion of the Linux community otherizing non-Linux users. Insufferable people like this will always exist, sure, but we could do to not reinforce their behavior within this community.
THANK YOU!!! As a future Data Science student, I want to build a no-bullshit Linux PC for programming only. I run a Minecraft server on a remote Linux server and that made me super comfortable with the terminal. But the elitist arguments I keep seeing/hearing just throw me off and slowly slaughter any desire to seriously try out something other than Windows/Mac. I had subscribed to this guy out of curiosity for what my new digital environment could look like, instead I keep getting bombarded by how my current (fully functioning...) digital environment is shit and how I'm a slave and sheep because of that. sheesh..
@@hej2800 Oh cool, I'm a data science student myself (though I dual-major with statistics). Trust me, it used to be pretty bad but it's been getting much better recently. Nowadays when I browse the Arch subreddit, elitists get downvoted into oblivion. Completely different from when people used to shit all over newbies in that community. Probably don't listen to the people telling you to jump into the deep end with Gentoo and DWM, take it slow and stuff. But trust me, it's worth making the switch, and most people here are nice people. Most distros make dual-booting really easy, you can just set it up straight from the installer. In spite of my bad experiences with some in the community, Linux has been perfect for both my university work and gaming needs. And most people are super helpful. Nowadays, you can make a post about a super basic problem and still expect to get someone responding that either tells you exactly where in the documentation to get familiar with or will just randomly decide to write an essay on how to solve your problem for you and shit. The Ubuntu and Arch forums are probably the most outstanding ones with this that I've seen.
I'm a long time linux user and I just never use the terminal except when I'm programming. I use KDE though, which is much more feature rich than cinnamon. I don't remember how things work in the terminal and all configs I've done in the past years have been through the gui. I've worked with Windows 10 as an IT and while all the features are there, they're a gigantic puzzle that's hard to navigate and confusing. I sincerely don't know how you windows users manage without KDE.
@@doigt6590 In all fairness, Plasma has a pretty impressive settings menu. Must be why Windows 11 basically carbon copied both the Launcher and Settings menus from Plasma. First time I saw the announcement for that OS I was like "Hey, isn't that Plasma?" That being said, I like to do some weird shit on my PC. When I was using Windows, this normally meant downloading hyperspecific software; on Linux, it's mostly editting config files. Even though I think for a standard user, Plasma has a much more intuitive menu than Windows, with more aesthetic customization options and other DE configuration within the GUI to boot, Windows still has more system-level settings to configure within its GUI. I think I was mentioning before that Linux is good for a casual user as well as a power user, but it doesn't do so well at filling in that space in-between. I wasn't trying to say it's that fair behind, though - I think Linux is _really_ close to being an OS that truly everyone could use.
@@destiny_02 well of course the founder of Microsoft would say that EDIT: When I wrote this reply, the user I was replying to had the username of Bill Gates. Just to clarify
Let's get this straight. People whose workflows are smoother on windows should use windows. People whose workflows are smoother in mac, should use mac. People whose workflows are smoother in linux, should use linux. That's all there is to it.
Exactly! I Will prefer always Windows over Linux, not because i hate Linux, but because i have grown Up With Windows , and its more comfortable for me to do stuff on, unlike Linux. As well as Kinda liking more the Windows UI over Linux's. But as said, It all comes Down to wich OS goes better to do stuff for People, not wich OS is Best.
When Cortana tells me it's time to eat, I have to buy my food on the Windows Store. Cortana caught me on a contraband OS (Linux) in a VM, so I've been in Solitaire for a month; man, there's only so much Solitaire I can take.
Oh, dear FMM. This video is in many ways a perfect illustration of many things that is wrong with a rather significant portion of Linux community - arrogance, lack of awareness and perspective etc People are googling the best distro not because "they are slaves to the system, man" and "free thinking enough". People have limited opportunities in their life - mainly, limited by time. They don't have the time to try 10 different distros to find out, which is the best one for them, They don't have the time to tinker with 3-5 desktop environments, file managers etc - they'll prefer to go with one provided by the OS by default if it's convenient enough. If you work in IT, software development, PC hardware space and your job provides your with ample time and capabilities to waste your time fine tuning the OS - good on you. For most however - it's not true. They have the opportunities to try out 1, maybe 2 distros - and thus that one better work out of the box with probably minor adjustments for personal convenience or this people will leave Linux and never return.
Well you should have tried 10 different distros when you were young. People who say that have been tinkering with Linux from pretty early on and mostly to people who did similar things. If you have a sudden whim to use Linux in your 30s when you have other things to do it's certainly not for you.
@@iexplainjokestomakethemles1560 I don't think that's what was intended when Linux was created. Being open source means there's versions that work for those who need more control and versions that work more how people are used to if coming from windows or mac. It's also not like every teen and young adult has access to a computer they can experiment on. Just because you have a computer, doesn't mean you're confident enough to install an operating system for the first time, especially if you depend on that computer for school or work. Interests also change. Someone could decide later on in their life that they want more control over their computer: it's not something you're born with
People make time for what they want to. If someone is really so "limited by time" that they can't boot a few live USBs and try out a couple distros, then I think they have more problems in their life than their operating system. I don't understand where you're coming up with "people only have the opportunity to try out 1 maybe 2 distros," like it's some crazy happenstance you just have to stumble upon by pure luck. Anyone can do this at any time and it would take less than one day to do. If someone really does not have the "opportunity' in their life to do that, I would question whether they are even living at all. What you're really referring to, is the people who will sit on the couch for an entire weekend binge watching a TV series and then complain that they "don't have time."
@@alureon1 * Sigh * Do I really have to explain such straightforward and self-evident things ? First of all, installing the OS is not the problem here - it's setting up and making everything you need to work that's the most time-consuming. It's the same reason why most people prefer not to do a clean install of Windows unless they absolutely have to. And if you think that setting up the specific Linux distro for anything slightly more advanced than browsing the internet and making some documents takes less than a day for a new user (and even than can sometimes be a problem depending on the distro and its current state, because some Linux developers unfortunately do not give a damn about what kind of compatibility, dependencies and software their all so super important updates will break - a problem Linus Torvalds spoke at length in particular) - you are either living in your own neat Linux bubble and have no comprehension of the learning curve it involves, or you're lying to yourself and by extension everyone else. For a lot of people, it takes me way more than a day to set up a clean Windows install by adjusting all the OS settings, re-installing several dozens pieces of software and then transferring the custom settings for it, etc etc - the fresh install of completely unfamiliar OS will be much worse. Second, for some reason you seem to severely under-estimate the time an average person has allocated to other stuff in their life that they absolutely cannot sacrifice to learning a new OS and associated software: - work (10+ hours 5 days a week) - spending time with their significant other/family/kids/friends - taking care of pets etc etc All of this does not usually leave much free time for tinkering with OS unless it's in someway related to your professional field. In fact, comments like yours kind of contribute to the stereotype of average Linux desktop user as a no-life neckbeard.
I'm a Windows user. Why don't I change to Linux? Well, have you ever tried to write your name with your other hand? It's uncomfortable if not impossible. Probably you could get used to it, at tremendous effort and time, but you'll never be 100% at it. It's the same for a Windows user. But it's even more than that: We are completely dependent on Windows compatibility. We are not just institutionalized, we are junkies. My job at the office is in a Windows environment. I'd have to use Wine because of it. Most of my games wouldn't run on Linux either. It would be like a minefield, trying to figure out what works and what to change in my life to accommodate a new OS. And if I have to virtualize everything, I might as well just use Windows and save up on processing power.
while I do agree to a point, i personally don't agree with the point that you'll never be 100% after a long amount of time. Also, wine and proton has gotten really far with one of the only things holding it back is anticheat.
@@RezzieRaccoon I use a 1060, which could be part of the problem as it obviously wont be as high priority as the newer ones. But you won’t really get many problems using Linux Mint’s desktop with Nvidia’s drivers (Linux Mint kinda just works) it’s mainly with KDE where I saw problems.
@@weakspirit_ The point of this video is to open your mind. It's not about the right or wrong answer, it never was... It's all about saying what you think and being heard. Freedom.
@@weakspirit_ Ok, if you think this is trivial, move on. You're obviously not interested in philosophy or improving our collective understanding of the world. I'm guessing you're a narcissist in real life who is probably a vegan just to mask all the horrible things lurking underneath. Am I getting to the core of your personality? Just let people SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND INSTEAD OF ATTACKING THEM ALL THE FUCKING TIME AND TRYING TO STOP THEM FROM SAYING IT. THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU OR WHAT YOU THINK. YOU CAN SPEAK WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN OR MAKE YOUR OWN VIDEO. DON'T TRY TO PREVENT SOMEONE FROM DOING THE SAME. THAT'S CALLED NARCISSISM!
@@weakspirit_ Well, of course, you don't want to hear anything that doesn't fit into your constricted, contrived reality. Just block me already, that's what you want to do, right? Go, unsubscribe from this channel. Downvote. Do whatever you need. You know what the consequences of these actions are? You end up alone or much worse. So ok, you don't need philosophy in your life. You want to hate on it. So why should I even talk to you and explain anything to someone like you? I already told you more than I should have. Closed people like you are just about the whole problem with the world right now. You really just don't get the whole freedom aspect, do you? It's just sad to see how people can have this life given to them and waste it to argue against freedom. Just to think you're actually sitting there and trying to stifle philosophical discussion with your time..... You're a clown, if not even someone dangerous to our human civilization as a whole.
You have to zoom out a little bit, not everybody's world is just computers. Most people have been using computers just so they can access their mail, browse internet, make a PowerPoint etc. Most people don't give a shit about OS until they absolutely need to. You seem to be going through a phase right now. This is elitist narcissism thinking lowly of others. Being a programmer myself, I don't often see myself tinkering and configuring my Kali THAT often, the bundle it comes with and its defaults are sensible and I don't need to change it further. I don't give a shit about the OS, it gets my job done and that's all.
Exactly, most people could do all the shit they're doing on Linux (with free software) and not even notice that it's not Windows. So why use Windows if you can have the same stuff for free
My sentiments exactly. I'm not going to go out of my way to learn how to navigate and configure a new OS when windows does the job very well. I'd rather spend that time on something I would like to learn how to do.
I think you completely missed the point and your response is very immature. Calling out people like you did is not nice and is borderline flame baiting. He's not talking about tinkering the os everyday. He's not talking about giving more space to computers in your day. He's talking about making a conscious choice about what you want to do and take it to improve your life, whether it be computers, software or just life in general.
When people adopting to new software they need to be presented with standard options that can be operated with no learning curve so that they can evaluate its completeness and feel free to mold it to their liking. The systems that drop you to terminal right from the start will never take off. I don’t understand, why not just put a check mark “install common software” and if you’re super user you can just uncheck it
I like EndeavourOS because it only makes you learn what I think is the most essential terminal skill: the package manager. It's a powerful distro (arch btw) with a shallow learning curve. The one thing Ubuntu is better at is the disk management. You can change permissions, set flags, mount at boot, etc all from a GUI. More distros need this.
"Normies/noobies are prisoners".... What next? Shall we hunt our own food because that would give us more control over what we eat? How about tailoring our own clothes? Don't get me wrong, I love Linux, and I use it a lot as a terminal, but I would never put it on the laptop of my girlfriend. Cannot even imagine my mom using it.
Man, those agriculture slaves are really institutionalised with their comfort of having food without travelling long distances. Being hunters\gatherers is a choice of free thinking men indeed
i've been using Linux for like two weeks now and it's more like an ongoing lesson in troubleshooting and system management than it is something that "just works", i can understand why some people would go crawling back to Windows when something breaks on Linux.
There's so much I disagree with in this video, I was not able to take note of it because I was listening to it in the background Five things I have in mind is that 1. When I type "best linux distro" I find that the websites do a pretty good job at comparing them all, and usually they don't choose one for you 2. People not wanting to try new things is something that applies to anything 3. Asking what someone does on their computer is a vague question, since people do a lot of things and they don't know what things are worth mentioning. It's better to try to ask them if they do x thing on their computer and let them answer with a yes or no, be specific 4. Choosing a distro is easy, because people just want something that works. Linux Mint, Elementary, and Ubuntu already do the job for most people (not all). It's not necessary for them to pick a distro based on their usual activity, but it's recommended 5. I don't think this video takes in mind that people can be easily overwhelmed by new things. Trying something new is always a challenge for some Edit: Since I watched this video I had come to deeply dislike this guy because he's always on my recommended now and this is literally the only video I had clicked. I mean, I don't watch tech videos it's not my thing and my first impression was bad so why expect something good from another video? I just want to watch documentaries on orange juice lore maaan
Yeah it's a very snotty elitist sounding video that has genuinely good points lost in its snootiness. Linux is fun and great and all of these things, but a lot of them Joe Averages at the end of the day just want a tool that works and they can easily understand.
@@simonghoul3602 games are literaly stuttering simulators including native ports ,not only proton and lutris Lower fps in all the games that I played (well, those that can run becuase some of them cant run becuase of the garbage intrusive anticheats they add...) Printer didnt work Internet was working weird, too much packet loss and ping spikes, i know that im using wifi but on Windows these problems barely happen, sometimes firefox even said that I wasnt connected to the internet even though I was Libre Office is garbage , Nvidia drivers for Linux are garbage I know that I am not using SSD but Windows 10 without fast startup booted up faster than Linux mint The text files made in Linux (saved as.txt) when moving them to a Windows pc or a mobile they cant be opened ,rly weird cuz all the text files that I made on a Windows pc they could be opened on Linux And pretty much it felt slower, but at least it used less resources than Windows 10 OBS game recordings were sometimes black when on Windows never had that problem Oh yeah ,and Linux permissions are so annoying becuase each folder has different permissions ,rly noticeable when plugging USB RGB stuff doesnt work for some reason as well So yeah, problems and problems
@@Ultra289 Mmm... yeah, I am a bit of an idiot, my bad I had always known Linux is bad and not fully compatible for gaming, but it didn't enter my mind while making this comment or replying to you. It's literally one of my main reasons for not using it as an operating system (Also, lack of hardware manipulation which is useful for video production, among other things I typed on Muta's video) Everything else though -LibreOffice is good, get used to it. Learning anything new is difficult. Formatting can be weird at rare times due to compatibility issues, if your file was originally a docx. -The RGB not working, among other hardware incompatibility issues is due to the drivers not being native to Windows. Most of the time, one person with your specific model of rgb lights needs to create their own drivers (barely anyone would). It's _probably_ unethical and anti-competitive that manufacturers don't make drivers for Linux, it's _probably_ illegal that they do it intentionally to reduce competition -I never had usb permission issues on Ubuntu, I don't remember having them on Linux Mint. Make sure your usb is not formatted as ntfs, since ntfs is exclusive to Windows, ExFat or Fat32 is what's used on most consoles and other devices. -I never had the issue with the text files, sounds like a weird error. Maybe a corrupt installation? -The OBS black screen issue is an OBS issue, there's probably a fix, and it's common on some laptops and other devices (regardless of OS) -I blame everything else on Linux Mint, good rule of thumb or advice is to just use a different OS if you find any issues you are unwilling to solve (don't just let it happen). I wish someone told you that. It's common for a Linux OS to not be compatible with your hardware or for it's configuration/optimization to be harmful or garbage. Why? idk, there's definetely a fix that can be implemented by the devs, if other operating systems can figure out they can too. I am sometimes reluctant to recommend Linux Mint, because it gave me a lot of issues on my over 6 year old laptop, hard drive was incredibly noisy and advanced network configuration became a cycle of solving issues (I was setting up a dns server with vpn). The only reason I keep recommending it is because people say it's more likely it was because of my old hardware, but I always recommend Ubuntu over anything else, Ubuntu didn't have this issue. Ubuntu is the best for compatibility and barely gives any issues, Ubuntu is the best because it's the most popular, once someone gets more familiar with the OS they can use something else. If for some reason you want to come back to Linux, use Ubuntu. You can still find issues with ubuntu, but they are rare, install and use gnome-tweak-tool to solve most issues Linux is not good for gaming, and you are probably already stressed out and unwilling to try it again, so I won't tell you to go back. If there are only a few games you play, I suggest you go to ProtonDB to see if they work on Linux, users also report what issues you can face on Linux. (Personally, I prefer Windows because I play a lot of itch io games)
Noob customer: I'm done with Windows. I hear it spies on you and stuff. What other OS would you recommend? Sales rep: Well, it depends on what you want to do on your PC. I think you should go with a type of Linux. Noob customer: ? Sales rep: Just think of what computer operations you do the most often and download the appropriate "distro" onto... Noob customer:
I have been using computers since the introduction of the home computer, Commodore, TI99/4A, etc, then the original IBM PC. I would like to offer a different perspective. My wife has owned a MAC laptop of one configuration or another for two plus decades. Her favorite phrase when complaining about a computer glitch for me to fix is "It should just work!". My wife and the vast majority of computer, tablet, smartphone users have the same perspective. It is like their car, it should just work. Yeah, you can be a gear-head, car enthusiast, custom car builder and complain how stupid people are about not knowing about the inner workings of their cars, but are they really stupid, or do they just expend their energies into other pursuits. I switched to Linux about 6 months ago, and with all the experience and certifications I have I didn't make the switch to Linux until about six months ago. Why, because I simply didn't have the desire to set aside sufficient time to learn everything you need to know about Linux from the ground up. It wasn't until Mint and Pop OS that said, I could make the transition and run my old Windows machine in a VM when needed. Then having a Linux machine as my daily driver I can start to explore and learn more about using the command line to add, remove, update packages. And I in no way know what I am doing yet. In fact it scares me a bit when something goes wrong and I don't know how to fix it off the top of my head. Typically I search on something and find the post that best fits my resolution goal and then I follow those directions if it explains what the commands do. I have a sister and niece who use computers all the time and get real work done. But haven't a clue as out to fix problems that spring up occaisionally. But that's okay, because they have access to IT staff who does. And that staff thinks users are stupid, they're not, they just don't give a crap about command line, RAM vs disk, mechanical drives vs SSD, screen resolutions, etc, etc. Just like they don't give a crap about how the gear ratios of their vehicle's transmission. The just want to get work done, or play a game, or read something on the internet. While I liked listening to your take on things, and appreciate your point of view, I found most of it a negative knock on anyone who isn't like you in their passion for Linux and computers. This argument has been made so many times over the decades. Anyone who doesn't program in machine language, assembly, 3rd gen prog lang, 4th gen prog lang,, structured program vs object, etc, etc, isn't a real programmer! Of course that is nonsense, you pick the tool that makes sense. It is like designing a database to third normal form, yeah you get rid of redundancy in the name of data consistency ,but in the real world you can end up with a system that has horrendous response times or reporting times. So you denormalize. Does that mean you shouldn't strive for 3rd normal form, no it doesn't. But it means ultimately you need to figure out what makes the best system and if that means not being pure to 3rd normal, then that's what it means. Lastly, it is tough to claim to know what happened back in the Civil War when people who are writing/speaking about it have their own agenda. Whether you see this as legit or not here is a link that has a different take. slate.com/human-interest/2019/08/black-confederate-myth-history-book.html I end by saying, I have seen the Windows vs MAC vs LInux arguments since the late 80s early 90s. Bottom line you use the tool that works for the situation. If you choose to ignore any of the options you will likely not choose the best solution for the given task. And for the most part you can get work done on a Linux laptop, but if you work in the business world, or the graphics world you are likely to require either a cloud subscription to one of the MS Office flavors or Adobe's packages, or you will need to run a virtual machine using another OS that supports those apps natively. I am not offering the above argumentatively, I am just offering another perspective based on different experiences. I do believe there is a personality draw for different areas of interest across the board which was your underlying premise. If you go into any IT shop, you will find the same type of people staffing the server area, security group, help desk, etc. Their first and last names differ, but the personality traits that drew them to that job are typically the same. And for the most part, they all think end-users are stupid, and again, they are not. They just don't have a passion for your job, as you don't for theirs.
I agree with your wife on this one despite the fact that I've been messing with operating systems for a good while now. It SHOULD just work whether you know how to fix it or not. Like I don't have anything better to do than fix an OS
You know, for me all OS´s are primitive nowadays, all with big problems,. I´m still waiting for a big jump to better OS´s and compatiblity. At this state of things, I´m happy doing lot of stuff in this little Android tablet.
a car and a computer are vastly different things. it's fine if you want your car just to work. your car does not store your private images, or bank accounts, it does not manage your schedule and isn't the one place from where you communicate essentially with the whole world. using a computer, even a linux one, is no witchcraft. all i read from your post is, i don't care and also don't bother to take the time. maybe you shouldn't be using a computer then. i don't mean to sound elitist or like gatekeeping, but is it too much to ask for even the slightest amount of knowledge when using a device capable of doing all these things? start with one topic, do learning by doing, if you get stuck, ask or look it up. you'll get used to it. and to come back to your car comparison (which i think doesn't fit that great): you don't need to know how the linux kernel works either, to use linux. just how to turn the wheel, accelerare and break. that's it.
@@buzzdx I am not sure how you could come to the conclusion that I don't care or am unwilling to invest the time and effort to learn a new OS, programming language, or technology. That said, being around as long as I have your angst reminds me of so many technology zealots. People screaming about programmers who can't write assembly code aren't real programmers. Later it was people who used 4GL languages weren't programmers. Then objected programming, and on and on. But hey, if you want to carry around anger because the masses don't want to be weighed down by the intricacies of Linux, and take it as a personal affront, have at it. In closing I would like to point out that a Chromebook runs Linux, is very secure, and is pretty close to "it should just work" type of computer. It doesn't fit everyone's needs but that's the great thing about technology. There is no need for one size to fit all.
You know, choice paralysis is a real thing, even for people who like configuring things exactly how they want, mmm maybe more for this kind of people. So I think just picking a distro and trying it first is a good idea for most people. After you tried a linux you have a frame of reference to agonize over which distro is best, if you want to.
At 14 years old I got my first phone, I rooted it withing 2 days. With no prior knowledge to Android, I just googled everything and somehow got there. Customized the hell out of this piece of silicon, basically making it useless for anyone - but me. Friends in school had their phones for 5 years already, but never even thought those things were even possible. And I suppose this is what you view as NOT being a normie. But how could I know about rooting, and all the other stuff? By asking the Google "how to make my android faster" and getting an answer. By getting someone to answer the question for me. Then just mindlessly getting through the instructions. What you view as being a normie, is just not being interested in something. When I was rooting phones, installing Linux and soldering my own fans, my friends were getting their first kisses. They weren't trying to change anything, because everything was already good enough. So they moved forward, while we have been stuck in obsession about a piece of silicon.
You can still have that balance between being a "i'm so unique nobody understands me" and a "normal life". Having time with your family, yourself, whatever.
>They weren't trying to change anything, because everything was already good enough. So they moved forward, while we have been stuck in obsession about a piece of silicon. This sounds both like a tragedy and a comedy, and that's what's so interesting about life. Some might find obsessing over silicone abhorrent, while others might find it a worthwhile pursuit. Those people probably obsess over there own niche things in the way that you obsessed over your phone, and that's okay. It's dedicating that time and passion and energy towards something of interest that's great.
People find meaning in dedication, with the hope that somehow it will pay off. Get good at it and later on you may find a good career or a good role in a community, then change the world. You think a love life contribute to that? While there are certainly disadvantages, surely there will be payoffs too if you commit yourself enough to it. You must be ready for the tradeoffs.
I literally used Ubuntu for years, because most of our contract projects run "well" or "at all" under linux or Mac. The moment WSL2 became somewhat stable and reliable, I switched back to windows and keep linux where I like it - in the terminal... I don't have to waste time with things like: "usb-c docs not initializing, monitors not being recognized, not being able to scale UI for each monitor separately, just a little bit "non-mainstream" peripherals not working, battery management not working properly, screen brightness control bugging out, audio bugging out, CPU not turboing asi intended or efficiently... I don't miss wasting hours troubleshooting every possible niche issue out there. Community drivers / support will never consistently beat the official ones. I want my machine to serve me, not me serve it.
Coming to think of it, i am actually a slave on linux. Labouring day after day on random issues it assigns me Today was audio Yesterday was a broken update The day before, could not save files
I have an alternative theory :D Maybe 99% of the people just don't care at all what OS they are using. Its not worth for them to think about it or make a decision, they just want it to work. If i would not care, i would simply choose the default OS (Windows), because it works for most people i see. Like when i am at the train station and want to eat a quick hamburger: I don't care at all, what restaurant it is. I don't compare prices or study the ingredients different restaurants use. I simply go to McDonalds, because it is the default where i see most people going xD Maybe a cook cringes at this like we cringe sometimes at the equivalent situations in the tech space.
Exactly. I honestly do not care what I use, I just care that it works. I use Windows because I don't have to *make it work*, it just works. I sometimes use Ubuntu too, but I don't care because to me the OS is just a mean to an end, and the end is using my computer to do stuff.
@Drick All I said is that I don't care whatever OS I use, to me it's a way to get my stuff done. Command lines and Linux's quirks are interesting, and I genuinely think there is value to learning them. But at the end of day I just want to have a simple, friction-less environment, and Windows is just the easiest way for me to do that. This doesn't make me a corporate slave, I just have different needs than you. I currently have Ubuntu as a dual boot. Also, please stop acting in this ass-holistic way, it is extremely toxic and just makes me want to stray further away from this community.
While I understand the point you try to make, the statement on institutionalized is a fundementally flawed one. No one is forcing you to use Windows, no one is forcing you to use a mac, and likewise no one is forcing you to use linux. Just because someone doesn't need more customization doesn't mean they are a slave. Common operating system are common because they fit what the users demands, what they voted for with their money. It's a transaction, it is a service, and it is just condecending to view the general public as inferiour and "have a master" just because they doesn't want the same custimizations you would want.
"No one is forcing you to use Windows" Not directly, in most cases. But. The vast majority of pre-built computers come with a Windows 10 installed, and a license that increases the total price. Schools force their students to use Windows 10 software (only if that school teaches using computers in the first place). Whether there's a Linux or MacOS version is completely irrelevant to them. Every computer in schools has Windows 10 or 7 installed on it. So while no no one is directly forcing you to use Windows 10, they rarely if ever take into consideration that you might want to use or already use a different OS, and thus Linux and MacOS users tend to have a rough time with these kinds of situations.
@@patrikgrguric535 Yup, that is true. But the main focus is that no one is having their rights violated. Is windows often set to default? Yes. But that's not really an issue.
Wow you know so much about how other people think, what's happening in their heads is your domain. You already have the answers, no need to ask questions. You're incredible. They are institutionalized, you are free. They are normals, you are unique. Subscribed
@@southernunionist2044 Cope over what? He's not the linux dweeb calling everyone else 'sheeple' for not wanting to use a shitty OS you have to operate from the command line with barely any compatible software.
Racecar Johnny doesn't care about what kind of engine is in his car, and he especially doesn't care to learn how it works or do his own repairs. All that matters to him is that it's fast, it looks good, and it goes "vroom vroom!". Windows and MacOS go vroom vroom, GNU/Linux expects every user to be a mechanic who is willing to study their machine and learn how it works (and how to fix it).
OMG! Do you choose voltage and frequency of electrical outlet in your house? Of course not! You have better things to spend time on. That is how people feel about operating systems.
I don’t think I’m a “slave to the system” if I don’t want to have to troubleshoot every single time one insignificant part of an install process goes awry. Trying to share an Ethernet connection from a Windows machine is a fucking nightmare for a fresh Linux user. Furthermore, don’t forget the amount of time it takes to actually get the operating system (I’m trying to use kubuntu) to work when installing it on a fresh desktop (4 hours) because of your graphics card. Oh, and the fact that like 50% of games flat out don’t work or chug along compared to running them on Windows. It’s great that you have the patience to fix all these issues, but you have to think of those who aren’t tech savvy.
He shills Linux every other video because it's half his personality. Ya know, like most Linux users, the main benefit to the OS is bragging about it to others.
For the graphics card that is easy to fix. Use a distro which includes the proprietary drivers. Some distros don't include them because of their philosophy of all "free" software
The appropriate operating system is dependant on how the user uses their computer. For most people windows is adequate because all they do is play games and surf the web. They aren't interested in computers, just a few simple tasks that can be performed on them. People who use linux are interested in computers like car people are interested in cars. They may be exercising their freedom of choice in other ways outside of a computer.
"If you're free it's pretty much on you if you become a multi millionaire..." Yeah. If only life was that simple. This point of view has been proven wrong in 1937 (book by Karen horney) and so many more times since then. It's coaching mentality. It brings only cognitive dissonance. Don't spread it. It screams ignorance. I agree with you that people like and defend stuff they know and works for them, and that's why they prefer currently closed OSes. Let's not forget that just few years back you still had situations when you would install Linux and your WiFi card or GPU wasn't supported or of the box, no drivers on OS, no drivers on manufacturer CD. Most people don't do computer stuff. They don't want to. What really helps Linux to grow is transfer of functionality from standalone apps, to web apps.
Yes,this! I hate when people bash Windows user because "oh look im suppa cool!!1 linux my life!1" No. I met chill Linux users and chill Windows users,which was nice. But I swear,people that worship Linux and make hate videos on windows (e.g this channel) get a bit on my nerves... :/ I rarely see Windows users to bash Linux while the opposite happens quite a lot...
Does anybody can tell Why Open Suse was sold in 2 billions, Why IBM is now propietary of RedHat and Why Lenovo is going to realise high end specs Laptops with Fedora ? And Why most important brands are switching to AMD ?
I agree with you, no one has the obligation to learn skills to deal with the computer as same as I don't have to learn about cars for me to drive one, is one thing being a engineering or a enthusiast and other being a end user, as a end user I should only know the basics and use it to accomplish what I have to. A car I drive from A to B and I computer I use my programs. The simpler and easier the better. If I have to learn how it works to use it is crap. If you like dealing with those problems good to you but realized that most people who bought the computer expect it to just work (and it should because they paid for it). We pay engineers to project our houses, mechanics to fix our cars, teachers to teach us, medics to treat us. A engineering shouldn't have to learn medicine to treat himself, he goes to a doctor for it. As same as a normies, they do what they are good at and pay people who understands to sell them softwares and hardware that serve their purposes.
Honestly, there are a few things that annoy me, when it comes to Linux: 1. The overly dependence on internet Maybe my internet doesn't work now or is unstable or whatever, if I need an application, I have to somehow make the internet work or find a way to get the application on another pc (and all the random dependencies and hope I have all and at the right version sometimes) which is not always as straight forward as it is on windows 2. Compilation Sometimes you need an application, but you have to compile in yourself, ok, no biggie But sometimes the instructions are not clear or missing and maybe I don't have the necessary time to investigate all of it 3. It annoys me when an application you install by apt has the version in the name or, even worse, when it changes the nameing scheme ( e.g. php5 to php-7.0, I think it was something like this) because now I have to search for the new version and name (if you are not going to keep both versions available, why bother putting them in the name) 4. Some drivers are finicky (and I'm not referring to some obscure or exotic components). on windows is more of a battle to stop the updater to install the wrong ones, both annoying, but on windows once installed, you are good to go. 5. The limited variety of apps Things have improved a lot in recent years, but the gap is still there. Some programs don't have a counterpart and some that do, lack features or don't offer a pleasant experience. Oh, and the run it under wine excuse is in most cases not a valid option yet. I want to make the changes, even more, now that win7 in gone (and win10 can be incredibly infuriating) , but some parts of the desktop experience are not quite there yet. When it comes to the server experience, things are shining. The software works great. Windows still has some catching up to do, but, I think, it's getting better. (and I'm not sure if I like that)
1. The way windows handles this is by not using shared libraries and all the dependencies are in the same installer. You can think of this like every windows application is a container without the security features. Linux has snap, flatpak, appimage, docker, etc. 2. I find the same issues on Windows. I use a lot of custom software in server deploys where I need to make some changes to code and recompile it. Usually dev notes are bad. This is a culture thing not a windows/linux thing. 3. Not sure about desktop applications but for PHP, mariadb, postgres, etc. These are for the enterprise where it's important what version you install for stability, security and compatibility. 4. This really depends on the hardware and the drivers involved. I've used Zebra printers (which suck) and their drivers also suck. There's no opensource alternatives to them so this is really up to the manufacturer to make a driver that isn't shit. 5. I disagree. For any windows application, I have found a competent replacement or far more options. Since I switched to windows by force by my employer, I find it harder to find replacements for my tools on windows. For ex. Daemonizing stuff. Tmux/nohup/POSIX jobs/& All these tools are perfect for daemons. Windows task scheduler doesn't run ps1 or bat files. The Windows init service is really difficult to use without C# knowledge. It took me ages to find a recently created opensource daemon init system (Daemonmaster - github.com/TWC-Software/DaemonMaster)
Simply put, Linux is for Tech enthusiasts and it's exactly why the community has made some distros that gives windows vibes and therefore they want the windows users to try it but Linux has already earned the reputation of being tech savvy so the Windows users see it as something good for servers not day to day life. And it doesn't help when retailers wants to know your whole computer usage history when you just ask them for a suggestion of what distro I should use.
I'm a programmer and I hate linux because every time i try to do some programming on the actual project I'm working on, linux blocks me by requiring i do some programming or sysadmin stuff on the linux system itself. I don't want an OS that requires more work from me to use than my actual work requires from me to work.
"Normies" just want to get the job done and move on NOT spending entire day scratching their heads figuring how to do even the simplest of things. Linux sucks not because its complicated its because it doesn't work very well. Errors that appear in one PC & not the other. Online solutions are either not available or its a good chance it will brick your PC. Troubleshooting is a nightmare. Having to traverse all these hardships alongside mastering linux FOSS alternatives is simply not worth it for many.
Many linux users are similar to a person buying a hammer and later getting another hammer and then that person constantly talks about how his second hammer is the best hammer to ever exist, so much in fact they never actually use the hammer
The linux community is riddled with elitistism and an inferiority complex. They will tell you how easy linux is to use, and that may be true in some cases. For one example out of many to prove this narrative incomplete: If you are using two monitors with different resolutions and different refresh rates with an nvidia gpu you will find many linux installs to be a major pain in the ass. If you use certain audio equipment it might not work on linux without putting in a lot of effort. The thing is, these elitists are not elite, they are just insecure and celebrating the fact that they know something you probably don't know right now. Linux takes a lot more of your time to learn than apple or microsoft based OS. If you have the time to spend learning linux it will teach you more about computing and how everything works. Learning a programming language will also teach you this. It is always important to remain humble though. Just because you spent a lot of time learning how to use linux doesn't make you superior. A lot of the people who use windows and mac OS are probably a lot smarter than you. No matter how smart or strong we think we are, there is always someone smarter and/or stronger. Some people just want to get work done without having to read for hours in forums to get things to work.
@@BlizzGMX The elitism exists, that's the only thing I agree with. But the rest of your arguments are moronic at best. "I use this very specific hyper niche hardware and it isn't supported out of the box and thus Linux sucks" Use whatever OS/distro works for you dumbass. There are things that don't work on windows, and things that don't work on mac so you use whatever works for you. The difference with Linux is that you can just make it work yourself, unless shit like Nvidia pulls happens. You can even hire a programmer to fix your issue for you and put it up to the distro devs to add it to work for everyone. Or you can simply ask the community to fix it, and you can even donate or make an agreement to make a payment if they fix it. There is literally not a single disadvantage Linux has. And the more popular it gets the better out of the box support you're gonna get.
If you've seen what a lot of the hard core Linux nerds look like it makes sense. They look like they often got the short end of the genetic stick, and probably weren't doing too well socially in school. These are of course generalizations, but it is a bit of a pattern.
@@genericdeveloper3966 It's also a matter of how they process their past that results in whether they present with the typical "elitist" flair or not. Subconsciously seeking indirect retribution for what they've had to endure in the past by means of feeding their ego with unnecessary bigotry and low-class insults, and turning the tables within their minds, as a few examples. Fact is most people don't have absolute control over this, and it's real hard to become aware of this automatic process and to subsequently correct it. Many don't even want to change the way they are, as they feel all is good as is, and that's okay if it helps them maintain their sanity, but they shouldn't expect to always be taken seriously by everyone. It's also the way some minds tend to be "woven" that might make this a real hurdle to overcome.
I really hope the next time you need the services of another professional accountant, lawyer, doctor, mechanic they treat you with the same disdain and derision for not having enough interest in their field of study. Acting like an elitist and calling people normie does not bring people into a community. Listening to their needs and working with them does. But I guess I've only been a developer and Linux power user for the past 15 years what do I know.
Well, the point here is that people don't make choices for themselves. Even with a Lawyer or doctor you just can't trust whatever they say you need to ask for yourself which most people don't It's not our fault that people are lazy slaves. You're comment sounds very ignorant I think he was right.
Been in the industry for 23 years. Sat on a lot of hiring committees. Seen a lot of schmucks like this on the other side of the interview table. Not a one made it to the second interview. Besides, UNIX is for noobs. The real elite use OpenVMS.
Linux is awesome! I really enjoyed spending 9 hours to get 2 monitors different DPI working. (I didn't). I'll be back and happy to my Mac Jail, unable to make decisions for myself but actually get work done instead spending 20 hours to change one stupid setting. Linux has great potential but I value my time :)
I'm sorry you had that experience. What distro were you using? What desktop environment? And that kind of setups to get 2 or more monitors different DPI working takes me less than 2 minutes on my Ubuntu install. Maybe you were using the wrong tool or misconfigured something?
@@kidmosey Linux does excel as a server and it should remain that way, but there are good desktop use distros like Mint and Vorin which are really user friendly and stable (mostly mint, not sure about stability on vorin).
@@kidmosey Linux does excel as a server and it should remain that way, but there are good desktop use distros like Mint and Vorin which are really user friendly and stable (mostly mint, not sure about stability on vorin).
When I first tried Linux and hated it, I was introduced to the term “Baby Duck Syndrome,” referring to one’s distaste for something new because it’s different. I got over that, and that’s why I consider myself OS agnostic. Now I just don’t use Linux because it’s a pain in the ass.
When you find a distro that works for your use case (assuming it can) you might find it is less of a pain than windows. As a software developer that is the case (provided I'm installing a popular well maintained distro).
@@genericdeveloper3966 I actually use a distro, specifically Mint, that's easy for linux beginners, has enough handy GUI tools while at the same time is linux. There is always a distro just for someone, they just have to find it. That's the true difficulty of switching to linux. Finding your perfect distro
@@bettercalldelta you dont have to find the "perfect distro" you can select a distro as the base and search for guides on how to customize it, this is the beauty of linux
@@gravesupulturero3652 bro? Alright so with windows you NEED a browser to install software first of all Second of all getting the right site then waiting for the file to install then using the installer takes a while I understand what you mean with Linux taking too long cuz of need of googling But installing software on Linux isn't that had Let's ay you're on a debian based distro The package manager is apt Now the command to get an app is this Sudo apt install package-name Sudo means you get higher powers to do stuff Apt is using the package manager Install is one of the tools of the package managers Now your user should be sudo if you want this to work In other distros you just have to get used to the package manager syntax, how it works and how to optimize it In arch there is pacman Sudo pacman -S Pacman has a flag syntax so it isn't as readable But pacman is much faster Also you gotta make sure the package you need is available for the package manager There are stuff like flatpaks, snaps or app images which want to have an universal package manager, thats great for new users cuz you just have to install one of these like flatpak and run the manager You can use a gui with them Flatpak has flathub Which has a gui and can install almost anything Search on how to use flatpaks and you should have it set up and ready
The only reason I struggled with Linux is that going in I assumed that it would do anything as exactly as windows did. Instead of learning how to use Linux I growled in frustration and tried to make Linux act like Windows.
@The Blue Wave It worked out of the box. I just foolishly instead of learning to use Linux I used it as if it were Windows. Which led me to tons of frustration.
I think everybody with common sense would do that. That’s nothing wrong with your approach. On the Mac side you won’t have problems because it’s well designed not this shit
@@josecarlosxyz I disagree, Linux is not Mac and is not Windows. It isn't designed to be like either of the two. Just learn it and you will be able to do whatever you want in no time ;) . Linux isn't shit mate. Just different
@Nicolás Agustín Dude do you live in 2001? If you do I recommend investing in the stock market of the Google, Amazon and Apple. I know they are in a bad state now but in a few years they are going to become massive unstoppable giants. Also in a few years something new and strange will come called Bitcoin. Buy every Bitcoin you can, trust me. Jokes aside I have installed Linux in many devices and the only time I had an issue with wifi was with a realtek card becuase F*** realtek. Those drivers break in every OS! The past week a had another laptop which I updated from win8 to win10 and the Realtek wifi card driver broke and I had to buy an external wifi card. I can't stretch this enough F*** REALTEK!
Common, Linux is so frustrating, some basic stuff are causing time wasting and frustration. Why do i have to do "make install" and "config" from terminal? Why do i have to check on dependencies when i install programs? UI core design was always awful looking, even in Ubuntu 20.20 look at the shutdown and restart confirmation dialog. No support from Adobe, awful looking media players for music. Have been user of Ubuntu 10.04 to 20.20, CentOS 5-7, KaliLinux, ParrotOS, Knoppix, OpenSuse, Manjaro, Backbox. When ever i need answer i couldn't find it easy, there's just bloatware of answers on Stackoverflow for just simple question as "How do i run commands on repeat?" Do you know how much time i wasted just searching for simple "watch -n" command on fucin' stackoverflow?? And people writing whole script as answers. Nowadays i can't find why i can't flash my esp8226... Just community is so frustrating. As student we worked on Centos, and do you know how much time one person wastes just to instal php 7.2 because its old centos, and you need to find dependencies and update repository manually?? I mean why is it necessary to lose so much time for installing one simple program as php 7.2, only two persons in class made it including me. Dnf install is removed from old centos, Synaptic Package Manager was always my best friend in Ubuntu, but Centos dosen't have it. One of the most frustrating things was terminal resizing and aiming edge to resize terminal in some distros...... I mean common. Not so great System Monitor app, NO option in settings to change cursor icon, DEFAULT firefox browser as always, No volume mixer like MacOS also, No equalizer, as i said UI icons on all apps look square and old (only macos made it good looking, don't like font smoothing in macos thats why i dont use macos mostly and dock Space consumption, non closing apps, no normal windows maximizing, no window snap feature.. etc. nvm), if Linux was at least pretty as Macos i would have forgiven it all. I tried 2 days ago ubuntu 20.20, i had crash (settings panel) in 20 sec of using it Ubuntu, it is overly smooth and there is now WPS office alternative which looks good compared to openoffice and Libre.... I mean there's so much missing in Linux that Windows has..
Yeah, if your use cases are those then you'll need to install addition tools from repositories/build from source. For programming/coding however, mac and Linux continue to supersede Windows
@@ye230 For programming/coding? How so? I'm IT student, so what about Visual Studio for example? Oh yea, there isn't one.... Microsoft became a standard for most apps and is kind of monopoly. I had issues in PyCharm regarding difference between "/" and "\" in Windows. And apps in Linux for me just look plainly awful by design
I have an aunt that constantly came to me with windows 10 issues on her laptop, mainly the webcam that got reinstalled as a scanner every time win10 updated. The guy at the computer shop told her to get a new laptop (she has an elitebook i5 3rd gen, still pretty decent) because windows 10 "requires" one to work properly. I told her that's a dumb suggestion, and I installed her Pop OS. She came back with other issues, mainly that Pop OS would randomly hang for no reason, or screw up an automatic update which required me to access the shell and fix it. In the end I installed her Ubuntu, and it's been smooth sailing since. I'd say that Linux is a great thing, but the "freedom" aspect of it is a double edge sword if you don't know how to handle it properly. Still though, even if Ubuntu is not the best example of a "truly" free experience, it's at the very least stable and reliable for most normies, and I'd rather see people running that than being forced to buy a new computer that they don't need
Freedom to do what though? Real freedom for me is an out of box experience that just works. In Windows I know an install will work, if I want to customise my GUI with a different shell I don't get another distro I just download an exe or msi and click click and I'm done, the real freedom is in having an OS that doesn't require you to troubleshoot it to get basic things working.
Imma be honest, this video entirely perpetuates the stereotype of linux users being up their own ass and childish, which never attracts new people to a product. This video will only drive people away from trying it rather than encouraging them
I'm a urban planner and the programs I have to use don't run on Mac let alone Linux. I'm sure there are complicated ways to make them run or alternative programs that do similar work that also run on Linux but I can't abandon the common workflows, programs and methods we use because it's like a language we use and if I don't speak the language I can't function efficiently.
Oh no, it’s not the terminal or the manual work that’s required for Linux. It’s the lack of software available that’s the real turn of for me and others I know. I’d go back to Linux in seconds if there was macro support on mice, keyboards and graphics tablets and fan control for things like fan curves and RGB.
My problems as a beginner: Learning what certain packages are and what are their purposes. Certain glitches that you need to search the corners of the internet to find a fix. A good amount of programs feel halfass compared to their windows and mac counterparts. You need to know how to read docs to even understand anything, but you're reading because you don't know anything. It's that you kinda need to manage the system but as a beginner it's not possible since you're using a black box. Edit I wouldn't consider myself a beginner anymore
i kinda agree i used mint for like 6months after that i installed arch and some things in the wiki i just didnt understand and i start searching and visiting tons of websites and aaaaaaa but it ended up fine after half a day lol
Ya u may be right, but u forgot what technology is for, it's for simplifying the user's tasks. And yes the customer should know or at least have an idea of what they're looking for. About linux, it's kind of a mess. Everyone who tries linux is constantly on their browser searching for the easiest stuff like (how to paste in linux since its not ctrl v (ya why is that if copy is the same) I gave it a try today and it was so disappointing, it lags and doesnt make sense, like why cant i make a new folder sometimes or exchange files in my boot drive. Windows is just easier, more compatible and all on better. Just use windows Sorry but linux wasted my entire day and it wont let me reinstall windows bcz it wont copy my files on thw usb, and cant use rufus. Fk u linux lol
I've been using Linux Mint for almost two weeks and I agree with you. Even though Minecraft runs beautifully, now I can't play on LAN with my brother, so for me it isn't worth it. Besides, the video apps are laggy. I have the same issue with my usb flash drive. Were you able to fix it?
Lol, well Linux users ARE the elite bro. You must be kidding if you think any relevant servers are being run off of Windows Server besides the one at your school or local hospital.
@Bobbybob Right, but in reference to Linux enthusiasts being elitist, they are not wrong considering 95% of users that are using Linux are engineers. That statistic might be way off, but I understand. If you're a standard user chances are that you're going to buy a Windows machine and get all the functionality provided to you. Most Linux Kernels require some setup and if you're a standard user looking to expand your skills, Linux may be up your alley but there a lot of thing you have to DIY into Linux to get the same functions as Windows.
Looking through the comments, I don't know which side I should be siding on. I do understand that sometimes it's not as easy as flicking a switch, when switching from Window/Mac to Linux, it takes time to learn it, get a feel for it, and getting an old laptop just to play around with it on your spare time. I know with enough research and tinkering you can get used to the way Linux works. Sometimes depending on the distro it won't take long to get used to Linux. I know I didn't switch to Linux cold turkey, I did some research on Linux beforehand, learned how everything worked, how to use it properly, and some tips and tricks. I was originally supposed to try it after college, but Windows made me so mad one day that I decided to cut things short and try it right away. It didn't take me long to figure everything-out, and I fell in love with it almost right away. Could it be because I wasn't quite a Windows power user? Could it be because I was a quick learner? Could it be because I had all the time in the world to figure-out how Linux worked? I frankly don't quite remember, but I did see that a couple people in the comments had massive issues switching from one to another, both software and hardware wise. I know Linux is a bit jank compared to Windows and Mac (anything and everything graphical will have screen tearing issues because of X, and every time you exit full screen on some apps it will screw-up the resolution, and so on...), and I know that most of it is because that specific piece isn't open source and that's sometimes the biggest problem with Linux; it's almost lottery like if you don't do the research. If it works it's almost magical, but if you get a dud it's off-putting. All it takes is missing a single piece of the puzzle for everything to go awry (WiFi Cards, Graphics Cards, Printer Drivers, ...Fonts I don't know), but once everything is in place or get lucky and find a PC that works it can be a good time. I know nowadays you'll get a lot more hits then misses (Unless you use NVidia), but it's still demoralizing to get misses. I understand that not everyone is as quick to learn new things as I am, and it's also hard to imagine myself in these people's shoes because of that. For me I like the power of Linux, but if Windows/Mac is what works best for you then so be it; whatever works works. I use a 10 year old hand-me-down BlackBerry as my daily driver because I don't need fancy modern phone features, all I need in a phone is a way to call, text, write notes, and a keyboard to type with ease. I've turned-down many offers from my mother to buy a new iPhone or Android for me because the old BlackBerry already satisfied me enough. And just like Windows or Mac power users, if the thing is giving you exactly what you need without hassle, then there's no real point to change. For as much as I love Linux, I begrudgingly understand why some people won't switch to it.
Allow me to give you a brief recollection of all the times I stopped using Linux. 2005: Ubuntu didn't come with wifi drivers and all I had at that time was free wifi. Ndiswrapper didn't support my wifi adapter so I was screwed. 2009/10: nVidia drivers had a fatal error, causing Ubuntu to not even allow me to log in at the command line. I could have possibly fixed this with a reinstall, but I was fed up. 2013: Installed Gentoo unironically. It worked pretty well, but the laptop I had at the time wasn't capable of running games that well regardless of OS so I quickly replaced it. The other day: Decided to try Linux Mint on a whim since I had a video playback issue in Windows I couldn't figure out. Only problem is that it seems Linux doesn't like my laptop's CPU (AMD FX-9830P) as it didn't even install a driver to allow for frequency and scheduler changes. Also, I would randomly get kernel level CPU hangups for 20+ seconds. Went back to Windows and a fresh install solved the problem I had before. Point being: there are legitimate use cases for Linux, but there are also legitimate use cases for Windows. Sometimes, like the scenarios I listed above, your hand is forced one way or another. Other times, you're forced into it due to work, school, etc. Which brings me to another point: going after home users is, was, and always will be a failing strategy. Windows gained dominance in the enterprise sector well before it became the defacto standard for home computers, while Linux has, to my knowledge, never made an honest attempt at that. Most servers in the world may run Linux, but those are probably being handled by the type of people who already use Linux. The majority of end users use Windows both at work and at home, because the former necessitates the latter in many cases. Now that most people are foregoing desktop computers altogether, the window of opportunity for Linux to gain ground is smaller than it has ever been. Ironically, it would take a company like Valve to get a good portion of people on board with making the switch long term. Lastly, security is basically a farce regardless of OS. Both the CPU exploits and hypervisors that have come to light within the past few years basically negate any security advantages Linux may have had over Windows. I'll put my Windows 10 system with an AMD FX CPU, Shutup10 and anti-virus up against any Linux system that uses a comped CPU architecture. I do still support open source software, and in fact use many open source programs regularly, but I think the community has always been misguided at best with regards to getting people on board with their cause. Videos like this appeal to the cheap seats in the crowd more than anything, and really give the impression that the community is just as much, if not more of a lost cause than ever.
Don't even think of getting good experience with NVIDIA. It should work out of the box with open source drivers(already present in the kernel) or if you are lucky enough NVIDIA will provide latest proprietary drivers for linux distros. I would suggest you to try any one of ubuntu flavours or linux mint if you are getting any errors while booting. I have seen that they can boot with secure boot turned on(because of "signed kernel") and the handle errors better. It's just my opinion. On a Ryzen 5 CPU, I was getting an error related to IOMMU. I tried kubuntu, it worked pretty well but it continued to show that error. Then I found out that it is preety much easy to turn IOMMU off using a kernel parameter or from BIOS settings. IOMMU is a virtualization related thing, windows doesn't use it, and as the laptop was pre installed with windows, I don't think OEM will release a BIOS update for issues in linux.
I agree with about microsquish and their dominance. They also have at least three solid advantages and massive headstart over every other operating system. Excel, software compatibility, and Active Directory. We looked into replacing windows on our end user devices, all 700 of them, but we ran into all three of the above mentioned points. There was no drag and drop AD replacement, several key enterprise dependent pieces of software had no Linux version and 2 wouldn't work with WINE, and no one can 100% replace excel not even office 365 fully replaces it for the top ~5% of power users. My fellow linux fanboys will try to counter that but excel has too many features and too much accrued technical credit. IE the accounting department has been developing and using their macros and scripts to work with the enterprise software and enterprise needs for decades. Good luck just porting all that over perfectly.
I think his point is not that everyone should be using Linux, I agree, depending on what you're doing Linux is not the best option. His point is that the people that Linux would be good for won't even concider using it because they just want to be told what's the "best" as opposed to what's the best for them specifically. As someone who likes to get deep into stuff and change things around and develop new programs, I use Arch Linux. But if you aren't into changing every little thing or programming, a more preconfigured "get up and go" distro like Mint or Ubuntu may be for you. Maybe software you like has poor Linux compatibility and Windows or MacOS is the best fit for you. Maybe you just personally like Windows or Mac better. But his point is that people don't want to consider any of these things and just want to be told what they should use.
This would be more valid if you understood the time commitment that it takes to actually do the research and make these choices. Imagine you are paying someone to install their operating system and write some documents and make some spreadsheets for you. You want to be able to collaborate with them online on these, but you also want them to be able to hook into and modify your database using the same spreadsheet program. This person gets paid $50 an hour, and are decently technical. Are you going to pay the money for them to simply research what programs are out there on Linux that can do what you want them to? Some can do one others can only do the other. And paying for that time is much more expensive than paying for Windows and Microsoft 365 license. There will be a few customers for whom the risk of having Microsoft Access their data makes it no longer financially worth it, but for the majority of business users it makes the most financial sense. Not to mention, having an outdated UI, like many programs built only for or primarily for Linux, can come at an extreme business risk. This is no more evident than in the recent case where a Citibank accidentally transferred 500 million and isn't getting most of it back. You are only viewing the use of Linux within your own cage, a cage where your time, or the time of those who work for you, isn't literally worth money to you. This is coming from someone who does use both Windows and Linux regularly.
I'm a software engineer and I am hardly beholden to what I'm given in any OS. I still can't stand Linux. I'll use it on a server and nothing else. Face it, nothing ever just works on Linux. I don't have enough time in my day to deal with all the driver issues Linux devs haven't put the time and resources in to fix.
it depends greatly on your hardware and what distro you are using... i for example tried kali once on my pc and it worked fine out if the box, if you installed duplicate versions of same software or have multiple packaging managers...well... it's not unusual to reach dependancy hell
There's one argument that you consistently overlook for people not to use Linux. The Linux community, with you being a good example of it. The demeaning attitude towards non-Linux users is one of the reasons that non-Linux users are demotivated to try Linux out.
@@MrGreatDane2 No not really. He just explained that non linux users are often overwhelmed by the choice linux offers you, because they are used to proprietery software without any freedom.
Linux is for the person with free time, above average computer knowledge and a f**kton of patience. You need those 3 things to use Linux, you can't deny that. It's not because of normies or people being institutionalized, it boils down to one simple sentence: "I want something that works when I need it to work". That is what a operating system should provide the average person, Windows does, Linux sadly doesn't. Linux is for someone with free time to experiment around, someone with a above average knowledge of computers and finally, last but not least: Patience, the patience to sit down for sometimes hours trying to install something, fix something or whatever else. I'm in no way anti-Linux, heck I've been daily driving for a while now. Linux isn't for the average person and that it what will always keep it from succeeding. The average person doesn't have time, knowledge or patience to run Linux, a advanced user does. To sum it up: If you want something that works when you need it to work, Windows is for you. If you are a advanced user with enough time, patience and knowledge and want to get away from big tech or if you just want a challenge or just something to experiment around with, Linux. (EDIT: I am in no way anti-Linux, I have a feeling I have to say that to get my point across. I want Linux to dethrone Windows, I want to see Windows being killed with Linux holding the knife and taking the crown of the king of OS's. The community is full of Linux supremacists who when someone gives a valid criticism they scream bloody murder and call them a institutionalized slave normie. Linux is only for the advanced user, it needs to become usable enough for the average user. Thank you for your time reading this. This is just my opinion and experience daily driving Linux, if I didn't have as much free time and patience as I do now I would have un-installed Linux f**king weeks ago I've gotten so frustrated at it. I'm not a extremely advanced user, I just understand the basics to run Linux. Thanks for reading this, just my opinion and experience with Linux and Windows)
As a "normie" i find it absolutely fascinating to listen to your view on how the OS defines the user experience to such a degree. There is a point however that you are missing about the 90% and that is: Windows is just a means to an end. As in, it doesn't really matter what OS it is as long as it works seamlessly with my other devices, updates itself and works out of the box no questions asked. If a game purchase does not work immediately you refund it. This ease of use and mindless usage is exactly what the end user wants in todays world because guess what, most people don't think about computers all the time and that includes people who use them all day. Very few people who are good at Linux use mint and the reason for it is for the most part the same reason you are not using Windows in the first place. So trying to capture the Windows audience by somehow copying it isn't going to work when the fundamentals are missing. Huawei isn't banned in Europe and was the preferred Android device for years until the Google ban. It's still a great device but without google services it's just not as appealing and as a result no one buys them anymore even with better specs and lower price. The same goes with Windows.
I've tried watching this video 3 times now over the course of 2021 and every time I reach a point where I stop because the smug elitism dripping from every other sentence passes the "asshole detection threshold" around the 3:00 mark. Linux has a GUI problem, because the way you elitists use it, you might as well have your computer locked in a server farm in Tunisia accessed exclusively via a teletext terminal, because lord praise the holy command line. Nobody but the mentally handicapped wants to even look at the command line unless it's absolutely necessary, we even have completely FOSS GUI libraries natively built and universally compatable with all of Linuxdom, just to provide GUI options to otherwise CLI exclusive software while still staying as unobtrusive as possible. Yet it's treated like sunlight by you elitist vampires, because how dare you make Linux usable without the holy CLI bible spread across your unbelieving thighs at all times. It's the computer equivalent of the religious clergy of the 8th century, holding humanity in "Microsoft (and Apple) Slavery" for the sake of the """purity""" of your backwards religion of the holy command line and it's scripture. The same obsession that even Linus Torvalds himself holds in open contempt as the anchor around Linux's neck keeping it stuck in the styles of the 70s. It's so bad that even he uses a stock Macbook as his daily driver since Ubuntu and Fedora both fell into the habits of the religion of CLI.
Question: You are given the task of installing a Linux based OS onto computers for an elementary school lab that will be used by first grade children with near zero experience in computers. What OS & software would you install for a child's first experience with a computer? Children by their innate nature require a master/teacher for a while before they outgrow the need for one and become self governing. So picking a master is kind of a requirement of this scenario.
When I was in elementary our computers ran a modified version of Ubuntu with the XFCE desktop environment, and heavy restrictions on what you could do without the root password. We mostly used Libre office, Firefox, and a Tux-themed typing game, but there was also a lot of computer graphics programs installed as well. I think this setup worked well for kids, as it was secure, reliable, and ran well on the hardware we had, which was entirely donated computers. The school's computer technician later set up some machines with full root access for the older kids (this was a K-12 school). Looking back, this was a very pivotal moment in my life, as it's when I first started taking an interest in computers and the digital world. Personally, I think every school should do something like this. It really saddens me seeing how younger people use computers (by computers, I mean anything with an operating system) every day without even a basic understanding of how they work. If we spent as much time teaching kids about how to use their computers to their full potential as we do teaching them about the ancient kings of foreign lands, I think they could go on to do great things.
@@SupaKoopaTroopa64 And maybe then, more people would have the capacity needed to wrap their heads around things even windows does. I know I would have liked to learn more about computers in school (especially considering how vital it is these days) but I don't think my situation would have permitted it.... Catching up though!
Thank you for specifying 100 times that it's GNU/Linux. Because no one would understand the topic if you just said Linux. It's really important to assert dominance on them "normies". Show 'em how Linux community is the best at welcoming new users.
@@willi1978 Can confirm, everyone knows linux is the kernel and not the software. Everyone meaning everyone that has a social life and has stepped outside their house at least once in this month.
I pay attention to the screen the whole time. You can't disable other languages compatibility (ex: 0:34 russian.h, swedish.h, etc)in the compilation of a program?
Yes you can wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Localization/Guide#L10N You set a set of languages and packages supporting that use expand will compile only those languages.
Windows user here :D For me it boils down to four things: 1.Linux still doesn't have all the specialized programs and games, you know, Linux gaming is a mess 2.Diversity of distros is both positive and hugely negative for Linux. I mean, every distro has it's own differences, its own design and feel. To be viable, Linux has to give users the more standardized experience. 3.Most distros still hugely rely on terminal for tons of actions, which is a big advantage for many, but for me it's just irritating and inconvenient, I tried to use it to perform given tasks, but still, if you're not into remembering and typing commands (which you totally aren't if you're not an enthusiast and/or professional), you won't benefit from it, it would be another negative point. Windows is better at this as you can do absolute most things without ever touching the terminal in your entire life. It's called user-friendly design, guys, follow it. 4.Speaking of different users, I'm not the only one using my PC, so it would require to teach others how to work with Linux, which really isn't always that easy. Alternatively, I could hook up dual boot, but I'll need to explain it to less technical users of my PC, as normies expect for a PC to just turn on and run Windows straight away
If the black people figthing for the confederacy were slaves then they didn't have a choice in whether they fight though? Am I missing something here? It sounds like saying "prisoners are stuck in prison because they like it, they would leave otherwise".
@UwU I'm sorry, but blanket statements like "it works better" are just silly. In some ways, a dragster works better than my Toyota, but I'd be insane to use one as my "daily driver". And those are just cars. Operating systems are orders of magnitude more complex, way more versatile, and can be evaluated and compared in countless ways. In my opinion, Linux absolutely shines as a developer's OS and an embedded OS (mobile, console, IoT, server, etc.), but as a consumer OS it's severely lacking.
as a non gnu + linux user, my guess is that once someone gets the hang of the linux way for task management and software installations then he's prepared to take on the world of linux.. depending on the language ofc c++ for example
what decisions? i have to programm a programme which programs me a program with 2 megabyte parameters in the cmmand line to create a programme i can use now to make a beep
I always liked having full control over my computer, and i managed to do that while still using Windows. You just need to know how to modify it as you like. On a windows 10 install nowadays I always remove every bit of telemetry, limit windows update to only install security updates and remove everything i dont use (Onedrive ,windows store, microsoft edge, etc) There isn't a easy way to do it but it is possible to make your own custom Windows I recommend doing this on Windows 10 LTSC/LTSB ,as it comes un-bloated out of the box. For activation you can buy a key legally or otherwise use methods like Windows Activation Script or some registry tweaks to use Non-Activated Windows without the watermark and such.
As I've said many many times, Linux OS (or GNU) is really only recommended for people who are intermediate to advanced programmers/software developers and/or people running servers. Linux is just not user friendly compared to either Windows or MacOS, and there's a lot of technical stuff you have to do on Linux manually (especially on the terminal) to make Linux the way you want it to. The average user is not technical, they just want something that works out of the box and something they can interact with (the terminal just freaks the average user out). The most user friendly Linux distro that people who are especially more familiar with Windows and Mac can use is Ubuntu. The problem is Ubuntu is not pre-installed on any hardware and you have to do that manually, which the average user can't, and even then, there isn't that much good software in Ubuntu like there is with Windows and Mac that people can get accustomed to.
I like the idea of Gentoo, but I have trouble using it thanks to the sheer manual nature of even installing the OS. I know exactly what I want to do with it, I know the size of the partition I want to make, I know which profile I want to set, which desktop environment or window manager I would like to use, it just takes so much manual effort that could be simplified with a basic chain of installation menus, or a script that goes over everything automatically and prompts you if there's an option you can change, that I find it difficult to love at the end of the day, and would rather just boot a KUbuntu LiveUSB and click througb the graphical installer, and if I wanted to customize it I would just figure things out in the postinstall.
I really feel being alled out mainly because, as someone who grew up and always used windows, I have no idea from where should I begin to study Linux or any other free OS exactly because there's so many of them that, at this point, I just feel overwhelmed. Can I get at least one hint as the where should I look for the first steps on this?
I would google "how to learn Linux properly". Personally every experience with Linux has been a concentrate of pain. It's not that " it should just work", it's that "nothing ever works, and you will never know why". If possible, get a human friend that knows Linux to help you. Without that, I think it's a hopeless task. All guides are wrong, there are always step missing, and that one missing step is always a terminal line command. Which you will never guess, because how the fuck would you, as a beginner.
As a Windows user, who knows every useful keyboard shortcut and plays with settings, and who is only now slowly learning about GNU/Linux, I wouldn't be able to answer your question as well. I want to do literally everything on my computer, maximum optionality. So far, Windows has allowed me to do everything for 25 years :D It seems to me that the focus with GNU/Linux distros isn't on the WHAT, but on the HOW.
Wow. This really made me think. If I was in that situation asking about linux to you I would have many questions because I’m looking to break free from windows, but I have that institutionalized mentality sometimes and I am scared about trying out linux because I’m afraid of how complicated it might be or that I might screw it up. I’m going to keep researching linux so I know what I’m getting into. Great video.
Yeesh, the sheer amount of arrogance in this video is incredible. You wanna know why people use Mac or Windows? Because those Operating Systems actually work most of the time. It's funny to me how software glitches in Windows are seen as evidence that Windows is horrible and should not be used, but when software problems in Linux (which are numerous) occur its always "you're a normie because you actually wanted something that just worked. How dare you expect the thing you're using to do the things we claimed it would".
In my opinion, I have a poor laptop with linux because sometimes I need to modify things on my smartphone or USB and there are no tools in Windows to do it, and first of all, I have not been able to update the software because the download fails, sometimes “a unexpected error” happens and refuse download things for a while or it simply restarts, the performance on desktop or simple things is indeed superior to Windows, but when trying to run a game it goes much slower than Windows, no matter what it does. My main computer have Windows installed (first 7 and now 10) it only failed when I did not disable Windows Update and downloaded drivers not compatible with my components, and when I try to open ridiculously heavy games for my PC (a BSOD saying that the display driver did not respond) it may work well for some but at least for me, I have Linux as a very, very, VERY secondary system (I would switch to MacOS if I had the chance, but I don't have a hackintosh compatible PC).
Honestly I think Windows/Mac just shoves their glitches under the rug and doesn't tell you what's going on. Just because it's less visible doesn't mean it's less numerous But yeah this video is arrogant af
Loved the condescension in your voice the entire time. If I had never used Linux before and met you before I had I would think twice before I downloaded any distro. Human beings are not born with the innate knowledge of how software addresses hardware. I am not a vehicle mechanic so in that logic I have no right learning how to drive.
as a new subscriber/viewer i wasn't aware of what distro you used... and the moment i saw it being a compiler video my first thought was gentoo, then at the end of one of the compiles it said gentoo for a noob i somewhat feel good about recognising this small thing.
Me trying to install aquatone from many days , had hard time running it , after installing chromium browser , it cant find it, then had to give the path, and it doesn't run gives random error messages and no one knows how to resolve it in the issues in github , some one told to install chromium from snap, tried to install snapd other errors reg version had fo google it , looks like we need to have less version of python, wanted to downgrade ,but again it needd apt add ho my god, trouble shooting, errors . This is not only me every time I ggole a question there are lots of people with so many threads trying to resolve it , ir doesn't actually.instead i will chose to run gui exes omc
Currently studying computer engineering, and Linux is an awesome OS at various points of view, but MY GOD does it demand time to learn something new each step you take. Every error is an awful amount of time having to tinker with the system and the .1% of applications that do support your distro and I simply cannot waste time on this when I want to actually use something. Tried to use it for 6 months and just gave up. Maybe when I have less stuff to do I can learn each comma from each documentation of each program/API. And one tip. This "normie" thing is really annoying and I bet it keeps away many people from outside this community. Really really annoying using it non ironically.
A perfect analogy for you is when you enter a new field... you'll wonder why whoever you're asking doesn't know that you're new to the field. The expert should know what the new person needs to know. Not ask them questions that they would only know if they weren't.
I started using it like a week ago and have had no issues doing everything i do on windows besides playing certain games. The three main differences are: Installing programs- instead of going to the site and downloading an exe and running the setup, you open synaptic package manager and search for it and install it that way. For less popular programs just copy and paste the commands they tell you on git for your distro. File system-the home directory is kind of like the user directory on windows. But programs install on the root directory and it seems kind of random which folder they go to instead of just all going to one folder (like program files) on windows. Permissions- anything in the root directory requires permission to change which was very frustrating to me at first because if you google how to edit a file or copy a folder to another directory everyone tells you to use some command. But i have no idea what the different parameters do and such and its really tedius for doing basic things. What I discovered just the other day and wish someone would have told me is that you can just open a folder as root and then you can do whatever u want with the files just like windows, without having to bother with the terminal. This is what should come up when people google how to edit a file that requires root permission. Not sudo whatever. Once i realized that it became just as easy as windows and you never need to learn the terminal at all. Just copy and paste a line in there every now and then.
Good point. This also explains why so many people constantly complain about having too much choice and diversity in the Linux ecosystem. When this is in fact also one of the greatest strengths. Linux takes a while until you get used to, especially when you're expecting everything to work just like on Windows.
It's like capitalism. There can be 500 knock-off dr pepper brands but the reality is they're all trash and pointless to look at when you could just get the proper brand name one.
Here is why so called "choice" is a bad thing. Linux is highly specialized "do one thing but do it well" mentality. Which means that you may need to mix and match different pieces of software for pretty much anything you do. The more there are, the more likely you won't find a good one for you, just an ok one. Sometimes you don't even know what you are looking for. Windows and Mac don't just "limit" your choices, they present you with something is actually a great combination on its own. Linux was meant to be run on large, multi user computer. Windows and Mac were designed to be run on a personal computer. Low and behold that is exactly where each system is used. Servers, university research, internet of things, automation mostly running Linux and PCs running Windows and Mac. I really don't get why people still try to shoehorn Linux where it doesn't belong. And even more so with people like the author of this video that looks down on Linux Mint when that is literally the best match for regular PC use.
@@A_Box Linux is not highly specialized, quite the opposite actually. It can run on many more hardware configurations out of the box and its monolithic kernel is the opposite of "do one thing". Linux just heavily suffers from the problem that the number of users doesn't warrant ports of popular software which again limits the number of potential users, so the software that actually exists and works well is mainly targeted at the power users and server admins that don't mind using it.
@@SaHaRaSquad Just Linux Mint, the friendliest version of GNU/Linux has 3 separate desktop environments. You don't even have to question what a desktop environment is in Windows nor Mac, it is taken care for you. That is what I am talking about. There are so many bits and pieces here and there that you have to worry about. This indeed makes it run on many hardware configurations but this is also why utterly fails at being simple PC operative system.
@@A_Box please explain how Linux is highly specialized when it can run on anything from a toaster to a smartphone to a supercomputer, supports many processor architectures, even obsolete ones, supports hardware in the kernel going back 2 decades, and has pretty much all the software that is *not* specialized and platform specific (Adobe Creative Suite, Final Cut Pro, etc...) available on pretty much all the main distros. Baffling assertion.
Gameplay commentary? nah I prefer compiler commentary
@GigaramsYT He might be a Python programmer, like myself. 😎
@@someoneelse4811 Nothing better than C :))
@The Blue Wave compiling is a process of converting code written in programming language into machine code, into binary executable programs.
In Gentoo GNU/Linux distribution the repository provides source code instead of binaries. And the package manager not only downloads and installs software, but also compiles it.
I would prefer a programming commentary, compiling can be satisfying sometimes, but it usually just lets me down right at the end
WHY IS LLVM IS SO SLOW?
@@thequietone2868 Yeah but that sucks to read and write.
"Windows distros"
That's a word combination I thought I would never hear
windows is based off of glass
nor did I want to hear that
Imagine different flavors of windows...
@@gingerjake2936 actually interesting tbh
@@gingerjake2936 Windows with candy crush, Windows without candy crush. Windows with Cortana + Microsoft store, Windows without Microsoft store
what dish soap should i use? what exact chemicals are you looking to use? idk man i'm just tryna keep my dishes clean.
Linux dish soap got 500 different brands but they all actually make your dishes dirtier unless you specifically add in particular chemicals, and process them in certain ways and spend some time adjusting and tweaking them. Or you can just buy a regular dish soap that just works and cleans dishes without thinking about it.
@@Otome_chan311 this comment was more entertaining, easier to digest, and didn’t require knowledge on how slaves were treated before i even existed. Cool
Exactly
If it works it works, maybe Linux is like 10% more efficient or some shit but I could care less, I just boot up windows and do what I need to do.
@@Ferrichrome my 15 year old computer uses lts version... And it is also same, just works..And fast
But in my office pc, antivirus is itself take time to load, and don't even want to mention complence check.....
@@Ferrichrome for me it's not so much with Linux anymore about wanting to be more efficient it's that Microsoft might do something I really , really don't like and not wanting to be in a situation where my only option is to suck it up and cope with whatever shit microsoft wants to shove down my unwilling throat.
I think you're way off here. The reason people don't like it is simple - it's not intuitive. Ive used dozens of OSes and currently run MacOS, windows, and linux simultaneously in my house. And I can say with certainty there is not a single particular task, application, or configuration I have tried to do on linux without something going wrong and having to open 14 tabs on my browser to figure it out. And I've been using it for years. It's regardless of what distribution. Even very experienced computer users struggle because nothing "just works".
On point
@@weakspirit_ I use macOS for a lot of dev work for the same reasons. Windows is great for c# development, but it doesn't really like you to develop in anything else.
But even development is a massively fringe case of people. Even photo/video/design is a fringe case. That's not what 90% of people are using their computers for. Most people are doing basic things on their computer like printing pictures, surfing the web, or writing documents. And that 90% doesn't have the time or patience to try and understand why things are done the way they are.
This is why the iphone was successful over android for so long (I believe android has caught up for year now). The iphone was so intuitive that the average person could pick it up without ever having used one before and do a task without issue. All the buttons and options would be where they were expected to be. Then it was only those 10% of people who needed a terminal on their phone that would complain.
Honestly, I feel like I need to make a video on this. Because I have seen so many people argue for linux that make the same crappy arguments and I think they just drink so much of their own kool aid that they don't realize how fringe they really are.
@@weakspirit_ while you are correct in some aspects that it's largely a learning curve blocking many people, I still think it's way deeper than that. For example, almost everything I try and do on linux, even down to something as simple as installing an app, required opening a terminal. The GUI has almost always failed in some way or another for anything I've wanted to do. The average person should never have to open a terminal for anything. But linux users get so used to using a terminal they think that it's so easy. But the average user thinks a terminal is horrifying. That's why GUIs exist - because a terminal is inadequate for the average user. Know how you install an app in windows? Download the exe and double click. I've never once had a one click package actually work on linux. There are so many examples of things like this. Task management. Uninstalling software. Mounting flash drives and SD cards (especially when something goes wrong with them) Some heavier distros like ubuntu make a lot of progress but they are still miles away when it comes to being realistically useable by the average person. It takes far too much configuration, fine tuning, and learning to get it going smoothly and the average person just doesn't care enough to put that much time in. They'd rather just buy a chromebook so they can print their stupid Google doc.
@@weakspirit_ TBH c++ programming became somewhat easier after introducing of vcpkg. It's still PITA, but it's getting there.
Same here. I have experience with Windows (95, 98, 2000, XP, 7, and 10), macOS (from OS X Leopard to macOS Catalina), and Linux (first on Ubuntu, and now hopping to Solus as my new daily driver for my mid-2011 iMac). However since I have specific task needs as a university instructor, musicial, and multimedia specialist, I get programs to use so I can work on them to fulfill my jobs. The OS was never really an issue to me, although I do have a bias towards Linux and macOS since I both matured on these systems; Windows was really a relic of my childhood already.
For example, my documents are made on Apple's iWork suite. My graphic design work is made on Adobe's. My video editing is made either on Premiere or on Final Cut. But I would switch to FOSS applications without any worries: just sudo install LibreOffice, GIMP/Inkscape, and Davinci Resolve and it's enough. But if I were to do paid jobs, I'd stick on tools that I know work. You don't want to lose your client simply because of your principles; media production, and everything else in life, is a game of compromise.
What the OP mentioned here is solid discussion, however it goes to borderline elitism. The argument that Linux is "superior" in any point reminds me of cultural elitism and appropriation that has seriously eroded the identities of many people, including those of my country. However it is indeed correct that we tend to remain with things that we are "comfortable" with because the mental stress to face the unknown is too much for many of us.
we can hear the fans going sicko mode from the gentoo package compiling lol
That's actually my AC lol
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Mental Outlaw A PC is just like an AC. It becomes useless as soon as you open windows
@@kunt230 Open up Windows and all the bugs come in lol.
@@martin3078 Or use a Windows™ Bug Net and you get same quality as AC and no bugs get inside!
Moral of the story - Don't be stupid,don't click on all "download" buttons,use an AV and common sense.
Both work well,but since Windows™ has more users (all ages) and people always found a way to hack in,thus more viruses (+ people's desire of free software) makes it look not secure.
While Linux IS more secure,it's less user friendly than Windows,having less GUI,different methods for same thing,and if an update breaks something,oh well. You gotta fix it yourself!
Soooooo...both OS are good.
I made an aproximate percentage of how they were made-
Linux - 90% software,10% design
Windows - 55% software,45% design
TL;DR
When people like something,they hate the alternatives.
W10 users most likely won't use Linux.
Linux users most likely won't use W10.
Who the hell is Gernu and why is he slashing Linux
LMAO
its GNU
I watched the entire video thinking he was saying "good news"
Pretty sure he said Linus. The dude from the tech tips.
I ship it
You misunderstand why people get annoyed with Linux. The ruby developer understood people better. Linux should be if you want to customize it you can, but if you don’t we have a reasonable default. Most of Linux doesn’t use reasonable defaults and expect you to do all the work of setting everything up. To some this is what they want, but for others they just want stuff to work without having a PhD in computer science. The evolution mail client is a perfect example instead of just entering your email username and password. It expects you to configure the IP address for the mailing protocol. Why? Linux constantly demands that you know everything about how it works to use it. People just want a computer that works, and protects their privacy. That’s why Apple became so popular. I know they aren’t honest about how private they are, but you look down on people for not wanting to waste a bunch of time customizing. What happens if my hard drive crashes, and I haven’t backed up for several months. Hours gone, and having to recustomize shit. Package managers they are great until something goes wrong and they can’t fix themselves. Time for forums and digging crap out of your computer to get it working again and never quite being sure you got everything.
But I'd say one thing are the tools needed to do one's work on a computer, and another different thing is to customize it to your hearts content. I think this is want he meant when he asked people about "what software do they use" or "what do you use a computer for". He is probably not expecting a detailed answer about how they customize each individual theme or icon in their desktop. But rather which applications they need to do their job. Recommending a newcommer a distro that doesn't allow them to do what they need easily may deliver a less-than-pleasent experience. For example, recommending Linux Mint to someone who relies on Chrome is not great. Why? Because recently Mint removed the Snap Store from their distro and with it the straighforward method of installing Chromium. In such case, maybe recommending Ubuntu would be better. That's why is important to ask questions about usability, rather than customizability.
Yeah, the "I can't be wrong, it's you who are wrong" mentality isn't good, I've tried linux in different occasions, but never manage to use them seriously, I use OS as a mean to use other software, not for the OS itself, and if I'm enslaved, forced to learn fixes, and workarounds every single time, I'm just gonna abandoned it. I hate Windows, but at least it works fine most of the time.
@@glitchy_weasel The thing is, if you hadto know every feature or every program you are going to use ever from the start is going to be really a hard question and you are going to freeze. What if you don't do video editing usually, but maybe you want to put a video togheter in some cousin's birthday? If you're a normie it's impossible to know at what extend the decision is important or not, they need that information before the question. (Because again, you don't know at what extend the question is essential or not) With Windows/Mac you don't have to worry about it, they don't make you questions, you have all possibilities (even though, for example, some distros of Windows don't allow remote desktop with the native application)
If you tell them, "Tell me wich programs do you usually use, or can't live without, so I don't give you a version that isn't as compatible with them. But don't worry, it's not a permanent decision, you can always find ways of installing almost everything", then they are going to respond accordingly and with ease.
Is like asking normies about their hobbies. If they are a normie, they probably spend most of the time with social media + netflix/Tv and they won't know what to tell you apart from that. If you ask them about what they like to do, they probably have some different activity they do from time to time. (This was tested, literraly). Is not about people not knowing what they do, the problem is the language you use and how much they know
@@miguelangelmartinezcasado8935 What is a normie? For some reason I feel like it's offensive or scornful
from the context he uses this term in his videos all the time. Also I wonder what he would call himself. It is clear he doesn't think of himself as a "normie" but then who is he? what is the term he uses to identify himself as? If I'd know his answer maybe I could decide whether he uses this term negatively and to look down on others or not.
I'd say nowadays Ubuntu and other "beginner-friendly" distros have pretty reasonable defaults
So, it's a podcast with terminal instead of any footages...clever!
He is prob recompiling his kernel
I am a Linux guy and i understand why people stay with windows for sure. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. No ill will toward any computer user, we are just trying to get our work done after all
I use Arch btw
@@kashmirwillwin3124 so you don't want to get work done? :D
I use Gentoo btw
@@timtom3073 i need...
So I use debian btw....
WHOLESOME 100
Windows precision drivers.
There's a subsection of the Linux community that refuses to understand that you shouldn't have to learn the command line to use your computer. I use the command line on my PC, for my use case it's very fast and convenient, but there needs to be reliable options that can get things done in the GUI for people that either aren't as tech savvy or don't have the time to put in to use it. Which, like it or not, even in some FOSS-only utopia where IP is abolished or some shit, and all OSes are community maintained, will *always* be the case. One of the greatest things about Linux is the shear number of options you have, so it is really disappointing there isn't an option with a GUI that would warrant most people switching when they get their PC like how they download Chrome or Firefox instead of sticking with Edge.
Ubuntu and Mint are nice, and relative to most distros are certainly beginner friendly, but their GUI functions still aren't at the same level as Windows. As behind the times and bulky as Windows GUI is, its _functionality_ easily supersedes the GUIs for the majority of Linux distros and DEs. And whenever I say this, I get *so many* Linux fanboys down my throat claiming I'm trying to take what makes Linux great away from them, seeming not to understand that there can just be a group of distros that can be configured entirely through the GUI, and that they can keep using whatever the fuck they're using now. So many people act like making Linux more appealing requires upending all of the technical and minimalist distros, when all that it requires is that a _different_ distro works to be more accessible by most people.
Additionally, I hate the attitude that it's the fault of the 99% of people that don't use Linux that Linux isn't used, as though this adds anything unique or applicable in any way. Even _if_ it's everyone else's fault for being sheep, what does yelling at everyone else for not being good enough accomplish? It's a completely unreasonable expectation, one that ensures that Linux will never become more relevant than it already is. It's the Linux community that needs to be less gatekeepy, to put together a distro that can attract regular-ass people, and take other steps to make Linux popular.
Blaming everyone else for not using Linux is, above all else, narcissistic, arrogant, unreasonable, overly idealistic, exclusionary, elitist, and most importantly, childish. In other words, it is point-for-point the exact stereotype of the average Linux user. Perhaps at the beginning I should have said there are two main reasons people aren't switching to Linux, and one of them is that most people seem to think this stereotype is accurate. Unfortunately, all this video really accomplishes for anyone watching outside the Linux community is to reinforce that stereotype. And for video essays like this, how you look to people who _don't_ agree with you, or are from a _different_ community, is really all that matters. Otherwise, you're just preaching to the choir.
The reason this upsets me is because I _want_ Linux to succeed, but it's viewpoints like this that keep that from happening. It doesn't have to be this way, this problem is not inherent to Linux. But the obstinance of many in the Linux community, whose daily usage could really only benefit from Linux having more mass appeal, serves to preserve the status quo.
*I must add a disclaimer* that I don't think you agree with all of these different community members I mentioned above. I'm simply pointing out that I feel this video condescends towards non-Linux users, which is something I don't think has justification for any video within this community. I know that we don't have to walk on eggshells to have mass appeal in every little bit of content produced about Linux, that oftentimes communities need to be able to talk differently when a discussion is geared primarily towards members of the community, but I don't think the condescension falls in that category.
On a side-note, as a CompSci major, I have had the unfortunate experience of meeting multiple stereotypical Linux users, who until learning I used Arch on my main PC, treated me like absolute shit by default, talking in the most demeaning, condescending way I've heard IRL in quite a while. What do you think would have happened if I were a Windows or Mac user currently considering switching, and encountered people like that? I think people like this are the inevitable outcome of a not-insignificant portion of the Linux community otherizing non-Linux users. Insufferable people like this will always exist, sure, but we could do to not reinforce their behavior within this community.
THANK YOU!!!
As a future Data Science student, I want to build a no-bullshit Linux PC for programming only. I run a Minecraft server on a remote Linux server and that made me super comfortable with the terminal. But the elitist arguments I keep seeing/hearing just throw me off and slowly slaughter any desire to seriously try out something other than Windows/Mac.
I had subscribed to this guy out of curiosity for what my new digital environment could look like, instead I keep getting bombarded by how my current (fully functioning...) digital environment is shit and how I'm a slave and sheep because of that.
sheesh..
@@hej2800 Oh cool, I'm a data science student myself (though I dual-major with statistics). Trust me, it used to be pretty bad but it's been getting much better recently. Nowadays when I browse the Arch subreddit, elitists get downvoted into oblivion. Completely different from when people used to shit all over newbies in that community.
Probably don't listen to the people telling you to jump into the deep end with Gentoo and DWM, take it slow and stuff.
But trust me, it's worth making the switch, and most people here are nice people. Most distros make dual-booting really easy, you can just set it up straight from the installer. In spite of my bad experiences with some in the community, Linux has been perfect for both my university work and gaming needs.
And most people are super helpful. Nowadays, you can make a post about a super basic problem and still expect to get someone responding that either tells you exactly where in the documentation to get familiar with or will just randomly decide to write an essay on how to solve your problem for you and shit. The Ubuntu and Arch forums are probably the most outstanding ones with this that I've seen.
I'm a long time linux user and I just never use the terminal except when I'm programming. I use KDE though, which is much more feature rich than cinnamon. I don't remember how things work in the terminal and all configs I've done in the past years have been through the gui. I've worked with Windows 10 as an IT and while all the features are there, they're a gigantic puzzle that's hard to navigate and confusing. I sincerely don't know how you windows users manage without KDE.
@@doigt6590 In all fairness, Plasma has a pretty impressive settings menu. Must be why Windows 11 basically carbon copied both the Launcher and Settings menus from Plasma. First time I saw the announcement for that OS I was like "Hey, isn't that Plasma?"
That being said, I like to do some weird shit on my PC. When I was using Windows, this normally meant downloading hyperspecific software; on Linux, it's mostly editting config files. Even though I think for a standard user, Plasma has a much more intuitive menu than Windows, with more aesthetic customization options and other DE configuration within the GUI to boot, Windows still has more system-level settings to configure within its GUI.
I think I was mentioning before that Linux is good for a casual user as well as a power user, but it doesn't do so well at filling in that space in-between. I wasn't trying to say it's that fair behind, though - I think Linux is _really_ close to being an OS that truly everyone could use.
@@fotnite_ what is missing in KDE's system config gui? I even have my phone stuff in there
Boys and girls: Anime girl studying with lofi beats.
Men and women: Gentoo compiling with Mental Outlaw talking
No
@@destiny_02 well of course the founder of Microsoft would say that
EDIT: When I wrote this reply, the user I was replying to had the username of Bill Gates. Just to clarify
This. Plus he sounds like that guy from Wendover Productions/Half As Interesting.
Yeah, fuck that anime girl lofi shit.
Not fair against us teens,lofi bad cept offical discord lofi, however I think this is better
Let's get this straight. People whose workflows are smoother on windows should use windows. People whose workflows are smoother in mac, should use mac. People whose workflows are smoother in linux, should use linux.
That's all there is to it.
No. I think linux is good cause i say so. Look at the numbers. But youre not a nerd so you wouldnt know. Normie.
Did i nail the impression?
No. Its not only about workflow
Ok slave
@@Ayra_Is_Cool_lol sorry what ?
Exactly! I Will prefer always Windows over Linux, not because i hate Linux, but because i have grown Up With Windows , and its more comfortable for me to do stuff on, unlike Linux. As well as Kinda liking more the Windows UI over Linux's. But as said, It all comes Down to wich OS goes better to do stuff for People, not wich OS is Best.
i only use gentoo because /g/ told me to install it
@Gek Badass we all do 😩
/g/entoo
gentoomen...
When Cortana tells me it's time to eat, I have to buy my food on the Windows Store. Cortana caught me on a contraband OS (Linux) in a VM, so I've been in Solitaire for a month; man, there's only so much Solitaire I can take.
🤭😆
I lost it at "I've been in Solitaire" lmfaooooo nice play on words
what is this from
@@brainwashalpha5495 his mind
@@freedomgoddess Pretty sure that was the intended result lol
Oh, dear FMM. This video is in many ways a perfect illustration of many things that is wrong with a rather significant portion of Linux community - arrogance, lack of awareness and perspective etc
People are googling the best distro not because "they are slaves to the system, man" and "free thinking enough". People have limited opportunities in their life - mainly, limited by time. They don't have the time to try 10 different distros to find out, which is the best one for them, They don't have the time to tinker with 3-5 desktop environments, file managers etc - they'll prefer to go with one provided by the OS by default if it's convenient enough. If you work in IT, software development, PC hardware space and your job provides your with ample time and capabilities to waste your time fine tuning the OS - good on you. For most however - it's not true. They have the opportunities to try out 1, maybe 2 distros - and thus that one better work out of the box with probably minor adjustments for personal convenience or this people will leave Linux and never return.
This
Well you should have tried 10 different distros when you were young. People who say that have been tinkering with Linux from pretty early on and mostly to people who did similar things. If you have a sudden whim to use Linux in your 30s when you have other things to do it's certainly not for you.
@@iexplainjokestomakethemles1560 I don't think that's what was intended when Linux was created. Being open source means there's versions that work for those who need more control and versions that work more how people are used to if coming from windows or mac.
It's also not like every teen and young adult has access to a computer they can experiment on. Just because you have a computer, doesn't mean you're confident enough to install an operating system for the first time, especially if you depend on that computer for school or work.
Interests also change. Someone could decide later on in their life that they want more control over their computer: it's not something you're born with
People make time for what they want to. If someone is really so "limited by time" that they can't boot a few live USBs and try out a couple distros, then I think they have more problems in their life than their operating system. I don't understand where you're coming up with "people only have the opportunity to try out 1 maybe 2 distros," like it's some crazy happenstance you just have to stumble upon by pure luck. Anyone can do this at any time and it would take less than one day to do. If someone really does not have the "opportunity' in their life to do that, I would question whether they are even living at all. What you're really referring to, is the people who will sit on the couch for an entire weekend binge watching a TV series and then complain that they "don't have time."
@@alureon1 * Sigh * Do I really have to explain such straightforward and self-evident things ?
First of all, installing the OS is not the problem here - it's setting up and making everything you need to work that's the most time-consuming. It's the same reason why most people prefer not to do a clean install of Windows unless they absolutely have to. And if you think that setting up the specific Linux distro for anything slightly more advanced than browsing the internet and making some documents takes less than a day for a new user (and even than can sometimes be a problem depending on the distro and its current state, because some Linux developers unfortunately do not give a damn about what kind of compatibility, dependencies and software their all so super important updates will break - a problem Linus Torvalds spoke at length in particular) - you are either living in your own neat Linux bubble and have no comprehension of the learning curve it involves, or you're lying to yourself and by extension everyone else.
For a lot of people, it takes me way more than a day to set up a clean Windows install by adjusting all the OS settings, re-installing several dozens pieces of software and then transferring the custom settings for it, etc etc - the fresh install of completely unfamiliar OS will be much worse.
Second, for some reason you seem to severely under-estimate the time an average person has allocated to other stuff in their life that they absolutely cannot sacrifice to learning a new OS and associated software:
- work (10+ hours 5 days a week)
- spending time with their significant other/family/kids/friends
- taking care of pets
etc etc
All of this does not usually leave much free time for tinkering with OS unless it's in someway related to your professional field.
In fact, comments like yours kind of contribute to the stereotype of average Linux desktop user as a no-life neckbeard.
I'm a Windows user. Why don't I change to Linux? Well, have you ever tried to write your name with your other hand? It's uncomfortable if not impossible. Probably you could get used to it, at tremendous effort and time, but you'll never be 100% at it. It's the same for a Windows user. But it's even more than that: We are completely dependent on Windows compatibility. We are not just institutionalized, we are junkies. My job at the office is in a Windows environment. I'd have to use Wine because of it. Most of my games wouldn't run on Linux either. It would be like a minefield, trying to figure out what works and what to change in my life to accommodate a new OS. And if I have to virtualize everything, I might as well just use Windows and save up on processing power.
while I do agree to a point, i personally don't agree with the point that you'll never be 100% after a long amount of time. Also, wine and proton has gotten really far with one of the only things holding it back is anticheat.
@@liekzq and nvidia's god awful drivers
@@a_plastic_bag I use linux mint and I never had any problems with nvidia drivers (I use a 3060 btw)
@@RezzieRaccoon I use a 1060, which could be part of the problem as it obviously wont be as high priority as the newer ones.
But you won’t really get many problems using Linux Mint’s desktop with Nvidia’s drivers (Linux Mint kinda just works) it’s mainly with KDE where I saw problems.
"Meanwhile, viewers struggle to determine what is exactly the point of this video..."
tl;dr I use Linux, therefore I am more than you haha Windows Privacy bad Linux free software good
@@weakspirit_ The point of this video is to open your mind. It's not about the right or wrong answer, it never was... It's all about saying what you think and being heard. Freedom.
@@weakspirit_ Ok, if you think this is trivial, move on. You're obviously not interested in philosophy or improving our collective understanding of the world. I'm guessing you're a narcissist in real life who is probably a vegan just to mask all the horrible things lurking underneath. Am I getting to the core of your personality? Just let people SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND INSTEAD OF ATTACKING THEM ALL THE FUCKING TIME AND TRYING TO STOP THEM FROM SAYING IT. THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU OR WHAT YOU THINK. YOU CAN SPEAK WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN OR MAKE YOUR OWN VIDEO. DON'T TRY TO PREVENT SOMEONE FROM DOING THE SAME. THAT'S CALLED NARCISSISM!
@@weakspirit_ Well, of course, you don't want to hear anything that doesn't fit into your constricted, contrived reality. Just block me already, that's what you want to do, right? Go, unsubscribe from this channel. Downvote. Do whatever you need. You know what the consequences of these actions are? You end up alone or much worse. So ok, you don't need philosophy in your life. You want to hate on it. So why should I even talk to you and explain anything to someone like you? I already told you more than I should have. Closed people like you are just about the whole problem with the world right now. You really just don't get the whole freedom aspect, do you? It's just sad to see how people can have this life given to them and waste it to argue against freedom. Just to think you're actually sitting there and trying to stifle philosophical discussion with your time.....
You're a clown, if not even someone dangerous to our human civilization as a whole.
@@weakspirit_ ngl you kinda sound like the 'pseudo intellectual' here.
You have to zoom out a little bit, not everybody's world is just computers. Most people have been using computers just so they can access their mail, browse internet, make a PowerPoint etc. Most people don't give a shit about OS until they absolutely need to. You seem to be going through a phase right now. This is elitist narcissism thinking lowly of others. Being a programmer myself, I don't often see myself tinkering and configuring my Kali THAT often, the bundle it comes with and its defaults are sensible and I don't need to change it further. I don't give a shit about the OS, it gets my job done and that's all.
Exactly, most people could do all the shit they're doing on Linux (with free software) and not even notice that it's not Windows. So why use Windows if you can have the same stuff for free
Guys ,I don't think that books will get you too far without practice, just saying
My sentiments exactly. I'm not going to go out of my way to learn how to navigate and configure a new OS when windows does the job very well. I'd rather spend that time on something I would like to learn how to do.
I think you completely missed the point and your response is very immature. Calling out people like you did is not nice and is borderline flame baiting. He's not talking about tinkering the os everyday. He's not talking about giving more space to computers in your day. He's talking about making a conscious choice about what you want to do and take it to improve your life, whether it be computers, software or just life in general.
@@doigt6590 Dude he compared not using Linux to slavery, are we hearing the same thing?
When people adopting to new software they need to be presented with standard options that can be operated with no learning curve so that they can evaluate its completeness and feel free to mold it to their liking. The systems that drop you to terminal right from the start will never take off. I don’t understand, why not just put a check mark “install common software” and if you’re super user you can just uncheck it
Spot on
I like EndeavourOS because it only makes you learn what I think is the most essential terminal skill: the package manager. It's a powerful distro (arch btw) with a shallow learning curve.
The one thing Ubuntu is better at is the disk management. You can change permissions, set flags, mount at boot, etc all from a GUI. More distros need this.
@hvysomething ms-dos took off for the lack of other options and extensive marketing
"Normies/noobies are prisoners".... What next? Shall we hunt our own food because that would give us more control over what we eat? How about tailoring our own clothes? Don't get me wrong, I love Linux, and I use it a lot as a terminal, but I would never put it on the laptop of my girlfriend. Cannot even imagine my mom using it.
and what is your mom's usecase? opening a web browser? how is that gonna make a difference
@Bobbybob wow haha funni linux bad
@Bobbybob no not really
@Bobbybob it does auto update if you want it to... but you probably don't want to to interrupt you while working that's why it isn't by default
@Bobbybob i can easily set up everything an average person will need WITH auto updates and they won't even know they are using another os
Man, those agriculture slaves are really institutionalised with their comfort of having food without travelling long distances. Being hunters\gatherers is a choice of free thinking men indeed
strange comment, but not a lot more stranger than actual analogy in the video...
@@benismann why is it strange?
hi ted
For real lmao this dude has some complexes he ought to shine a light on
Why not both? Being a hunter and gatherer is a lot of fun, invigorating, and refreshing. Wild raspberry milkshakes are great.
i've been using Linux for like two weeks now and it's more like an ongoing lesson in troubleshooting and system management than it is something that "just works", i can understand why some people would go crawling back to Windows when something breaks on Linux.
This is my second week on Linux Mint and I'm trying to find a reason not to go back to Windows...
benn using linux for a few months now, this is very true
I stick with it because I like the challenge and having the freedom to customise my desktop.
Hence why I migrated to arch.
If you survive 1 month on any linux distro trying yo learn then you will come to love linux for sure.
There's so much I disagree with in this video, I was not able to take note of it because I was listening to it in the background
Five things I have in mind is that
1. When I type "best linux distro" I find that the websites do a pretty good job at comparing them all, and usually they don't choose one for you
2. People not wanting to try new things is something that applies to anything
3. Asking what someone does on their computer is a vague question, since people do a lot of things and they don't know what things are worth mentioning. It's better to try to ask them if they do x thing on their computer and let them answer with a yes or no, be specific
4. Choosing a distro is easy, because people just want something that works. Linux Mint, Elementary, and Ubuntu already do the job for most people (not all). It's not necessary for them to pick a distro based on their usual activity, but it's recommended
5. I don't think this video takes in mind that people can be easily overwhelmed by new things. Trying something new is always a challenge for some
Edit: Since I watched this video I had come to deeply dislike this guy because he's always on my recommended now and this is literally the only video I had clicked. I mean, I don't watch tech videos it's not my thing and my first impression was bad so why expect something good from another video? I just want to watch documentaries on orange juice lore maaan
Yeah it's a very snotty elitist sounding video that has genuinely good points lost in its snootiness.
Linux is fun and great and all of these things, but a lot of them Joe Averages at the end of the day just want a tool that works and they can easily understand.
Yeah I tried searching the best distro
Linux mint they said, and it just didnt work unlike Windows
So yeah, its not that easy
@@Ultra289 What do you mean by it didn't work?
@@simonghoul3602 games are literaly stuttering simulators including native ports ,not only proton and lutris
Lower fps in all the games that I played (well, those that can run becuase some of them cant run becuase of the garbage intrusive anticheats they add...)
Printer didnt work
Internet was working weird, too much packet loss and ping spikes, i know that im using wifi but on Windows these problems barely happen, sometimes firefox even said that I wasnt connected to the internet even though I was
Libre Office is garbage ,
Nvidia drivers for Linux are garbage
I know that I am not using SSD but Windows 10 without fast startup booted up faster than Linux mint
The text files made in Linux (saved as.txt) when moving them to a Windows pc or a mobile they cant be opened ,rly weird cuz all the text files that I made on a Windows pc they could be opened on Linux
And pretty much it felt slower, but at least it used less resources than Windows 10
OBS game recordings were sometimes black when on Windows never had that problem
Oh yeah ,and Linux permissions are so annoying becuase each folder has different permissions ,rly noticeable when plugging USB
RGB stuff doesnt work for some reason as well
So yeah, problems and problems
@@Ultra289 Mmm... yeah, I am a bit of an idiot, my bad
I had always known Linux is bad and not fully compatible for gaming, but it didn't enter my mind while making this comment or replying to you. It's literally one of my main reasons for not using it as an operating system (Also, lack of hardware manipulation which is useful for video production, among other things I typed on Muta's video)
Everything else though
-LibreOffice is good, get used to it. Learning anything new is difficult. Formatting can be weird at rare times due to compatibility issues, if your file was originally a docx.
-The RGB not working, among other hardware incompatibility issues is due to the drivers not being native to Windows. Most of the time, one person with your specific model of rgb lights needs to create their own drivers (barely anyone would). It's _probably_ unethical and anti-competitive that manufacturers don't make drivers for Linux, it's _probably_ illegal that they do it intentionally to reduce competition
-I never had usb permission issues on Ubuntu, I don't remember having them on Linux Mint. Make sure your usb is not formatted as ntfs, since ntfs is exclusive to Windows, ExFat or Fat32 is what's used on most consoles and other devices.
-I never had the issue with the text files, sounds like a weird error. Maybe a corrupt installation?
-The OBS black screen issue is an OBS issue, there's probably a fix, and it's common on some laptops and other devices (regardless of OS)
-I blame everything else on Linux Mint, good rule of thumb or advice is to just use a different OS if you find any issues you are unwilling to solve (don't just let it happen). I wish someone told you that. It's common for a Linux OS to not be compatible with your hardware or for it's configuration/optimization to be harmful or garbage. Why? idk, there's definetely a fix that can be implemented by the devs, if other operating systems can figure out they can too.
I am sometimes reluctant to recommend Linux Mint, because it gave me a lot of issues on my over 6 year old laptop, hard drive was incredibly noisy and advanced network configuration became a cycle of solving issues (I was setting up a dns server with vpn). The only reason I keep recommending it is because people say it's more likely it was because of my old hardware, but I always recommend Ubuntu over anything else, Ubuntu didn't have this issue. Ubuntu is the best for compatibility and barely gives any issues, Ubuntu is the best because it's the most popular, once someone gets more familiar with the OS they can use something else. If for some reason you want to come back to Linux, use Ubuntu. You can still find issues with ubuntu, but they are rare, install and use gnome-tweak-tool to solve most issues
Linux is not good for gaming, and you are probably already stressed out and unwilling to try it again, so I won't tell you to go back. If there are only a few games you play, I suggest you go to ProtonDB to see if they work on Linux, users also report what issues you can face on Linux. (Personally, I prefer Windows because I play a lot of itch io games)
Noob customer: I'm done with Windows. I hear it spies on you and stuff. What other OS would you recommend?
Sales rep: Well, it depends on what you want to do on your PC. I think you should go with a type of Linux.
Noob customer: ?
Sales rep: Just think of what computer operations you do the most often and download the appropriate "distro" onto...
Noob customer:
I have been using computers since the introduction of the home computer, Commodore, TI99/4A, etc, then the original IBM PC. I would like to offer a different perspective. My wife has owned a MAC laptop of one configuration or another for two plus decades. Her favorite phrase when complaining about a computer glitch for me to fix is "It should just work!". My wife and the vast majority of computer, tablet, smartphone users have the same perspective. It is like their car, it should just work. Yeah, you can be a gear-head, car enthusiast, custom car builder and complain how stupid people are about not knowing about the inner workings of their cars, but are they really stupid, or do they just expend their energies into other pursuits.
I switched to Linux about 6 months ago, and with all the experience and certifications I have I didn't make the switch to Linux until about six months ago. Why, because I simply didn't have the desire to set aside sufficient time to learn everything you need to know about Linux from the ground up. It wasn't until Mint and Pop OS that said, I could make the transition and run my old Windows machine in a VM when needed. Then having a Linux machine as my daily driver I can start to explore and learn more about using the command line to add, remove, update packages. And I in no way know what I am doing yet. In fact it scares me a bit when something goes wrong and I don't know how to fix it off the top of my head. Typically I search on something and find the post that best fits my resolution goal and then I follow those directions if it explains what the commands do.
I have a sister and niece who use computers all the time and get real work done. But haven't a clue as out to fix problems that spring up occaisionally. But that's okay, because they have access to IT staff who does. And that staff thinks users are stupid, they're not, they just don't give a crap about command line, RAM vs disk, mechanical drives vs SSD, screen resolutions, etc, etc. Just like they don't give a crap about how the gear ratios of their vehicle's transmission. The just want to get work done, or play a game, or read something on the internet.
While I liked listening to your take on things, and appreciate your point of view, I found most of it a negative knock on anyone who isn't like you in their passion for Linux and computers. This argument has been made so many times over the decades. Anyone who doesn't program in machine language, assembly, 3rd gen prog lang, 4th gen prog lang,, structured program vs object, etc, etc, isn't a real programmer! Of course that is nonsense, you pick the tool that makes sense.
It is like designing a database to third normal form, yeah you get rid of redundancy in the name of data consistency ,but in the real world you can end up with a system that has horrendous response times or reporting times. So you denormalize. Does that mean you shouldn't strive for 3rd normal form, no it doesn't. But it means ultimately you need to figure out what makes the best system and if that means not being pure to 3rd normal, then that's what it means.
Lastly, it is tough to claim to know what happened back in the Civil War when people who are writing/speaking about it have their own agenda. Whether you see this as legit or not here is a link that has a different take. slate.com/human-interest/2019/08/black-confederate-myth-history-book.html
I end by saying, I have seen the Windows vs MAC vs LInux arguments since the late 80s early 90s. Bottom line you use the tool that works for the situation. If you choose to ignore any of the options you will likely not choose the best solution for the given task. And for the most part you can get work done on a Linux laptop, but if you work in the business world, or the graphics world you are likely to require either a cloud subscription to one of the MS Office flavors or Adobe's packages, or you will need to run a virtual machine using another OS that supports those apps natively.
I am not offering the above argumentatively, I am just offering another perspective based on different experiences. I do believe there is a personality draw for different areas of interest across the board which was your underlying premise. If you go into any IT shop, you will find the same type of people staffing the server area, security group, help desk, etc. Their first and last names differ, but the personality traits that drew them to that job are typically the same. And for the most part, they all think end-users are stupid, and again, they are not. They just don't have a passion for your job, as you don't for theirs.
I agree with your wife on this one despite the fact that I've been messing with operating systems for a good while now. It SHOULD just work whether you know how to fix it or not. Like I don't have anything better to do than fix an OS
You know, for me all OS´s are primitive nowadays, all with big problems,. I´m still waiting for a big jump to better OS´s and compatiblity. At this state of things, I´m happy doing lot of stuff in this little Android tablet.
a car and a computer are vastly different things. it's fine if you want your car just to work. your car does not store your private images, or bank accounts, it does not manage your schedule and isn't the one place from where you communicate essentially with the whole world. using a computer, even a linux one, is no witchcraft. all i read from your post is, i don't care and also don't bother to take the time. maybe you shouldn't be using a computer then. i don't mean to sound elitist or like gatekeeping, but is it too much to ask for even the slightest amount of knowledge when using a device capable of doing all these things? start with one topic, do learning by doing, if you get stuck, ask or look it up. you'll get used to it. and to come back to your car comparison (which i think doesn't fit that great): you don't need to know how the linux kernel works either, to use linux. just how to turn the wheel, accelerare and break. that's it.
@@buzzdx I am not sure how you could come to the conclusion that I don't care or am unwilling to invest the time and effort to learn a new OS, programming language, or technology. That said, being around as long as I have your angst reminds me of so many technology zealots. People screaming about programmers who can't write assembly code aren't real programmers. Later it was people who used 4GL languages weren't programmers. Then objected programming, and on and on. But hey, if you want to carry around anger because the masses don't want to be weighed down by the intricacies of Linux, and take it as a personal affront, have at it. In closing I would like to point out that a Chromebook runs Linux, is very secure, and is pretty close to "it should just work" type of computer. It doesn't fit everyone's needs but that's the great thing about technology. There is no need for one size to fit all.
Very good resume I’ll try to read it
You know, choice paralysis is a real thing, even for people who like configuring things exactly how they want, mmm maybe more for this kind of people. So I think just picking a distro and trying it first is a good idea for most people. After you tried a linux you have a frame of reference to agonize over which distro is best, if you want to.
I like choice. It just turns out all of the choices on linux are awful. So I chose mac.
@@Otome_chan311 hueeuheuhuhhuehuehuehuehuehuehehuheuheuhuehuehuehuehuehueh
@@Otome_chan311 "I couldn't find a woman to date me, so I became gay."
True, very true. Also Arch.
@@TheTundraTerror oof.
it's just an os, calm down
instead of taking a stroll while compiling he decided to stay in his mom basement and make a pointless video lmao
HUH?!!! WHA YOU SAY
yes, but its open source!
@@fletchedfps ok
@@fletchedfps just like your gf ? :P /s
At 14 years old I got my first phone, I rooted it withing 2 days. With no prior knowledge to Android, I just googled everything and somehow got there.
Customized the hell out of this piece of silicon, basically making it useless for anyone - but me. Friends in school had their phones for 5 years already, but never even thought those things were even possible.
And I suppose this is what you view as NOT being a normie. But how could I know about rooting, and all the other stuff?
By asking the Google "how to make my android faster" and getting an answer. By getting someone to answer the question for me. Then just mindlessly getting through the instructions.
What you view as being a normie, is just not being interested in something. When I was rooting phones, installing Linux and soldering my own fans, my friends were getting their first kisses.
They weren't trying to change anything, because everything was already good enough. So they moved forward, while we have been stuck in obsession about a piece of silicon.
You can still have that balance between being a "i'm so unique nobody understands me" and a "normal life". Having time with your family, yourself, whatever.
>They weren't trying to change anything, because everything was already good enough. So they moved forward, while we have been stuck in obsession about a piece of silicon.
This sounds both like a tragedy and a comedy, and that's what's so interesting about life. Some might find obsessing over silicone abhorrent, while others might find it a worthwhile pursuit.
Those people probably obsess over there own niche things in the way that you obsessed over your phone, and that's okay. It's dedicating that time and passion and energy towards something of interest that's great.
Yo is this a villian backstory
People find meaning in dedication, with the hope that somehow it will pay off. Get good at it and later on you may find a good career or a good role in a community, then change the world. You think a love life contribute to that? While there are certainly disadvantages, surely there will be payoffs too if you commit yourself enough to it. You must be ready for the tradeoffs.
The last paragraph............
I literally used Ubuntu for years, because most of our contract projects run "well" or "at all" under linux or Mac.
The moment WSL2 became somewhat stable and reliable, I switched back to windows and keep linux where I like it - in the terminal...
I don't have to waste time with things like: "usb-c docs not initializing, monitors not being recognized, not being able to scale UI for each monitor separately, just a little bit "non-mainstream" peripherals not working, battery management not working properly, screen brightness control bugging out, audio bugging out, CPU not turboing asi intended or efficiently...
I don't miss wasting hours troubleshooting every possible niche issue out there.
Community drivers / support will never consistently beat the official ones.
I want my machine to serve me, not me serve it.
"I want my machine to serve me, not me serve it. "
-> said by proprietary software user
Coming to think of it, i am actually a slave on linux. Labouring day after day on random issues it assigns me
Today was audio
Yesterday was a broken update
The day before, could not save files
@@wongjowo9152 😆
For this reason I use a Linux PC for work (heavy lifting - machine learning) and a mac laptop. WIndows has never "worked" for me
I have an alternative theory :D Maybe 99% of the people just don't care at all what OS they are using. Its not worth for them to think about it or make a decision, they just want it to work. If i would not care, i would simply choose the default OS (Windows), because it works for most people i see.
Like when i am at the train station and want to eat a quick hamburger: I don't care at all, what restaurant it is. I don't compare prices or study the ingredients different restaurants use. I simply go to McDonalds, because it is the default where i see most people going xD Maybe a cook cringes at this like we cringe sometimes at the equivalent situations in the tech space.
The cook analogy is pretty much spot on. The reasons we love Linux don't really matter to the average person who just wants to get things done.
Exactly. I honestly do not care what I use, I just care that it works. I use Windows because I don't have to *make it work*, it just works. I sometimes use Ubuntu too, but I don't care because to me the OS is just a mean to an end, and the end is using my computer to do stuff.
@Drick All I said is that I don't care whatever OS I use, to me it's a way to get my stuff done. Command lines and Linux's quirks are interesting, and I genuinely think there is value to learning them. But at the end of day I just want to have a simple, friction-less environment, and Windows is just the easiest way for me to do that. This doesn't make me a corporate slave, I just have different needs than you. I currently have Ubuntu as a dual boot.
Also, please stop acting in this ass-holistic way, it is extremely toxic and just makes me want to stray further away from this community.
@Drick ok linuxtard
@Drick ok linuxtard
While I understand the point you try to make, the statement on institutionalized is a fundementally flawed one. No one is forcing you to use Windows, no one is forcing you to use a mac, and likewise no one is forcing you to use linux.
Just because someone doesn't need more customization doesn't mean they are a slave. Common operating system are common because they fit what the users demands, what they voted for with their money. It's a transaction, it is a service, and it is just condecending to view the general public as inferiour and "have a master" just because they doesn't want the same custimizations you would want.
"No one is forcing you to use Windows"
Not directly, in most cases.
But.
The vast majority of pre-built computers come with a Windows 10 installed, and a license that increases the total price.
Schools force their students to use Windows 10 software (only if that school teaches using computers in the first place). Whether there's a Linux or MacOS version is completely irrelevant to them. Every computer in schools has Windows 10 or 7 installed on it.
So while no no one is directly forcing you to use Windows 10, they rarely if ever take into consideration that you might want to use or already use a different OS, and thus Linux and MacOS users tend to have a rough time with these kinds of situations.
@@patrikgrguric535 Yup, that is true. But the main focus is that no one is having their rights violated. Is windows often set to default? Yes. But that's not really an issue.
Linux user elitism at its finest.
that's it boys, we have officially hit peak pretentious lol
"You know who uses Windows? SLAAAAAVES"
@@dralfonzo24 he never said that.
smart man
@@Cookiekeks he literally did.
@@JD-jl4yy No he didn't. He literally didn't say that slaves use windows.
ngl, flying compilation text is my aesthetic. 😍
Pipe it to lolcat for fun
vlc was there
it's extremely satisfying
Wow I love linux but this video is extremely pretentious.
Wow you know so much about how other people think, what's happening in their heads is your domain. You already have the answers, no need to ask questions. You're incredible. They are institutionalized, you are free. They are normals, you are unique. Subscribed
least narcissistic linux user:
Cope
@@southernunionist2044???
@@southernunionist2044 Cope over what? He's not the linux dweeb calling everyone else 'sheeple' for not wanting to use a shitty OS you have to operate from the command line with barely any compatible software.
@@southernunionist2044 I’m pretty sure he’s being sarcastic lmao
Consumers vs Enthusiasts
That's the true difference here.
ConsOOmers
Racecar Johnny doesn't care about what kind of engine is in his car, and he especially doesn't care to learn how it works or do his own repairs. All that matters to him is that it's fast, it looks good, and it goes "vroom vroom!". Windows and MacOS go vroom vroom, GNU/Linux expects every user to be a mechanic who is willing to study their machine and learn how it works (and how to fix it).
@@InventorZahran the point reached apogee over your head
OMG! Do you choose voltage and frequency of electrical outlet in your house? Of course not! You have better things to spend time on. That is how people feel about operating systems.
oh boy you surely have never used linux if thats how you feel about it
@@someonehere4380 I have been using Linux since 90s.
I don’t think I’m a “slave to the system” if I don’t want to have to troubleshoot every single time one insignificant part of an install process goes awry. Trying to share an Ethernet connection from a Windows machine is a fucking nightmare for a fresh Linux user. Furthermore, don’t forget the amount of time it takes to actually get the operating system (I’m trying to use kubuntu) to work when installing it on a fresh desktop (4 hours) because of your graphics card. Oh, and the fact that like 50% of games flat out don’t work or chug along compared to running them on Windows. It’s great that you have the patience to fix all these issues, but you have to think of those who aren’t tech savvy.
He shills Linux every other video because it's half his personality. Ya know, like most Linux users, the main benefit to the OS is bragging about it to others.
@@shadow7988 1000000% right
For the graphics card that is easy to fix. Use a distro which includes the proprietary drivers. Some distros don't include them because of their philosophy of all "free" software
Nowadays in fact a lot of games run better on Linux than windows. Looking at you STEAM games (ie steam deck, steamos etc)
Yo it's windows' networking that's messed up. Linux to macos Samba shares are blazing fast.
The appropriate operating system is dependant on how the user uses their computer. For most people windows is adequate because all they do is play games and surf the web. They aren't interested in computers, just a few simple tasks that can be performed on them. People who use linux are interested in computers like car people are interested in cars. They may be exercising their freedom of choice in other ways outside of a computer.
I'm interested in Linux but I'm going to have to figure out how to get Roblox on Linux
"If you're free it's pretty much on you if you become a multi millionaire..." Yeah. If only life was that simple. This point of view has been proven wrong in 1937 (book by Karen horney) and so many more times since then. It's coaching mentality. It brings only cognitive dissonance. Don't spread it. It screams ignorance. I agree with you that people like and defend stuff they know and works for them, and that's why they prefer currently closed OSes. Let's not forget that just few years back you still had situations when you would install Linux and your WiFi card or GPU wasn't supported or of the box, no drivers on OS, no drivers on manufacturer CD. Most people don't do computer stuff. They don't want to. What really helps Linux to grow is transfer of functionality from standalone apps, to web apps.
Yes,this!
I hate when people bash Windows user because "oh look im suppa cool!!1 linux my life!1"
No. I met chill Linux users and chill Windows users,which was nice.
But I swear,people that worship Linux and make hate videos on windows (e.g this channel) get a bit on my nerves... :/
I rarely see Windows users to bash Linux while the opposite happens quite a lot...
Does anybody can tell Why Open Suse was sold in 2 billions, Why IBM is now propietary of RedHat and Why Lenovo is going to realise high end specs Laptops with Fedora ? And Why most important brands are switching to AMD ?
20 years ago maybe
"move to webapps". You should leave, lol
I agree with you, no one has the obligation to learn skills to deal with the computer as same as I don't have to learn about cars for me to drive one, is one thing being a engineering or a enthusiast and other being a end user, as a end user I should only know the basics and use it to accomplish what I have to. A car I drive from A to B and I computer I use my programs. The simpler and easier the better. If I have to learn how it works to use it is crap. If you like dealing with those problems good to you but realized that most people who bought the computer expect it to just work (and it should because they paid for it).
We pay engineers to project our houses, mechanics to fix our cars, teachers to teach us, medics to treat us. A engineering shouldn't have to learn medicine to treat himself, he goes to a doctor for it. As same as a normies, they do what they are good at and pay people who understands to sell them softwares and hardware that serve their purposes.
Honestly, there are a few things that annoy me, when it comes to Linux:
1. The overly dependence on internet
Maybe my internet doesn't work now or is unstable or whatever, if I need an application, I have to somehow make the internet work or find a way to get the application on another pc (and all the random dependencies and hope I have all and at the right version sometimes) which is not always as straight forward as it is on windows
2. Compilation
Sometimes you need an application, but you have to compile in yourself, ok, no biggie
But sometimes the instructions are not clear or missing and maybe I don't have the necessary time to investigate all of it
3. It annoys me when an application you install by apt has the version in the name or, even worse, when it changes the nameing scheme ( e.g. php5 to php-7.0, I think it was something like this) because now I have to search for the new version and name (if you are not going to keep both versions available, why bother putting them in the name)
4. Some drivers are finicky (and I'm not referring to some obscure or exotic components). on windows is more of a battle to stop the updater to install the wrong ones, both annoying, but on windows once installed, you are good to go.
5. The limited variety of apps
Things have improved a lot in recent years, but the gap is still there. Some programs don't have a counterpart and some that do, lack features or don't offer a pleasant experience.
Oh, and the run it under wine excuse is in most cases not a valid option yet.
I want to make the changes, even more, now that win7 in gone (and win10 can be incredibly infuriating) , but some parts of the desktop experience are not quite there yet.
When it comes to the server experience, things are shining. The software works great. Windows still has some catching up to do, but, I think, it's getting better. (and I'm not sure if I like that)
1. The way windows handles this is by not using shared libraries and all the dependencies are in the same installer. You can think of this like every windows application is a container without the security features. Linux has snap, flatpak, appimage, docker, etc.
2. I find the same issues on Windows. I use a lot of custom software in server deploys where I need to make some changes to code and recompile it. Usually dev notes are bad. This is a culture thing not a windows/linux thing.
3. Not sure about desktop applications but for PHP, mariadb, postgres, etc. These are for the enterprise where it's important what version you install for stability, security and compatibility.
4. This really depends on the hardware and the drivers involved. I've used Zebra printers (which suck) and their drivers also suck. There's no opensource alternatives to them so this is really up to the manufacturer to make a driver that isn't shit.
5. I disagree. For any windows application, I have found a competent replacement or far more options. Since I switched to windows by force by my employer, I find it harder to find replacements for my tools on windows. For ex. Daemonizing stuff. Tmux/nohup/POSIX jobs/& All these tools are perfect for daemons. Windows task scheduler doesn't run ps1 or bat files. The Windows init service is really difficult to use without C# knowledge. It took me ages to find a recently created opensource daemon init system (Daemonmaster - github.com/TWC-Software/DaemonMaster)
Simply put, Linux is for Tech enthusiasts and it's exactly why the community has made some distros that gives windows vibes and therefore they want the windows users to try it but Linux has already earned the reputation of being tech savvy so the Windows users see it as something good for servers not day to day life. And it doesn't help when retailers wants to know your whole computer usage history when you just ask them for a suggestion of what distro I should use.
I hate when compile tutorials are "clone this repo, cd dir, sudo make"
excuse me what the fuck?
@@dustojnikhummer there are a ton of tutorials online, why would you want every github to include redundant info that most people already know?
I can relate sooo much to the PHP example you brought xd
So annoying
I'm a programmer and I hate linux because every time i try to do some programming on the actual project I'm working on, linux blocks me by requiring i do some programming or sysadmin stuff on the linux system itself.
I don't want an OS that requires more work from me to use than my actual work requires from me to work.
Yes! So true
@*WilliePlayz!* If it did that then you probably have a hardware issue that Windows tried to shield from you
"Normies" just want to get the job done and move on NOT spending entire day scratching their heads figuring how to do even the simplest of things. Linux sucks not because its complicated its because it doesn't work very well. Errors that appear in one PC & not the other. Online solutions are either not available or its a good chance it will brick your PC. Troubleshooting is a nightmare. Having to traverse all these hardships alongside mastering linux FOSS alternatives is simply not worth it for many.
Many linux users are similar to a person buying a hammer and later getting another hammer and then that person constantly talks about how his second hammer is the best hammer to ever exist, so much in fact they never actually use the hammer
>anonymous pfp
>posts comment about being filtered by linux
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The linux community is riddled with elitistism and an inferiority complex. They will tell you how easy linux is to use, and that may be true in some cases. For one example out of many to prove this narrative incomplete: If you are using two monitors with different resolutions and different refresh rates with an nvidia gpu you will find many linux installs to be a major pain in the ass. If you use certain audio equipment it might not work on linux without putting in a lot of effort. The thing is, these elitists are not elite, they are just insecure and celebrating the fact that they know something you probably don't know right now. Linux takes a lot more of your time to learn than apple or microsoft based OS. If you have the time to spend learning linux it will teach you more about computing and how everything works. Learning a programming language will also teach you this. It is always important to remain humble though. Just because you spent a lot of time learning how to use linux doesn't make you superior. A lot of the people who use windows and mac OS are probably a lot smarter than you. No matter how smart or strong we think we are, there is always someone smarter and/or stronger. Some people just want to get work done without having to read for hours in forums to get things to work.
The worst thing about the elitism you mentioned is the Job's "You are doing it wrong" or "you shouldn't be doing it that way"
@@dustojnikhummer yeah it can be frustrating trying to get help with so many different distros and hardware configurations.
@@BlizzGMX
The elitism exists, that's the only thing I agree with. But the rest of your arguments are moronic at best.
"I use this very specific hyper niche hardware and it isn't supported out of the box and thus Linux sucks"
Use whatever OS/distro works for you dumbass. There are things that don't work on windows, and things that don't work on mac so you use whatever works for you.
The difference with Linux is that you can just make it work yourself, unless shit like Nvidia pulls happens.
You can even hire a programmer to fix your issue for you and put it up to the distro devs to add it to work for everyone.
Or you can simply ask the community to fix it, and you can even donate or make an agreement to make a payment if they fix it.
There is literally not a single disadvantage Linux has.
And the more popular it gets the better out of the box support you're gonna get.
If you've seen what a lot of the hard core Linux nerds look like it makes sense. They look like they often got the short end of the genetic stick, and probably weren't doing too well socially in school. These are of course generalizations, but it is a bit of a pattern.
@@genericdeveloper3966 It's also a matter of how they process their past that results in whether they present with the typical "elitist" flair or not. Subconsciously seeking indirect retribution for what they've had to endure in the past by means of feeding their ego with unnecessary bigotry and low-class insults, and turning the tables within their minds, as a few examples. Fact is most people don't have absolute control over this, and it's real hard to become aware of this automatic process and to subsequently correct it. Many don't even want to change the way they are, as they feel all is good as is, and that's okay if it helps them maintain their sanity, but they shouldn't expect to always be taken seriously by everyone. It's also the way some minds tend to be "woven" that might make this a real hurdle to overcome.
I really hope the next time you need the services of another professional accountant, lawyer, doctor, mechanic they treat you with the same disdain and derision for not having enough interest in their field of study. Acting like an elitist and calling people normie does not bring people into a community. Listening to their needs and working with them does. But I guess I've only been a developer and Linux power user for the past 15 years what do I know.
I have a small feeling he's not trying to "bring people into a community".
Well, the point here is that people don't make choices for themselves. Even with a Lawyer or doctor you just can't trust whatever they say you need to ask for yourself which most people don't It's not our fault that people are lazy slaves. You're comment sounds very ignorant I think he was right.
Been in the industry for 23 years. Sat on a lot of hiring committees. Seen a lot of schmucks like this on the other side of the interview table. Not a one made it to the second interview.
Besides, UNIX is for noobs. The real elite use OpenVMS.
Mental Outlaw: don't know what to do while compiling?
Also Mental Outlaw: lets make a video on why gnu/linux is bad for newbies
Linux is awesome! I really enjoyed spending 9 hours to get 2 monitors different DPI working. (I didn't). I'll be back and happy to my Mac Jail, unable to make decisions for myself but actually get work done instead spending 20 hours to change one stupid setting. Linux has great potential but I value my time :)
ah yes and where did you get the 9hour number?
@@someonehere4380 someone makes a valid point about personal experience and linux boys can really only say "umm, source?"
I'm sorry you had that experience. What distro were you using? What desktop environment? And that kind of setups to get 2 or more monitors different DPI working takes me less than 2 minutes on my Ubuntu install. Maybe you were using the wrong tool or misconfigured something?
@@kidmosey Linux does excel as a server and it should remain that way, but there are good desktop use distros like Mint and Vorin which are really user friendly and stable (mostly mint, not sure about stability on vorin).
@@kidmosey Linux does excel as a server and it should remain that way, but there are good desktop use distros like Mint and Vorin which are really user friendly and stable (mostly mint, not sure about stability on vorin).
When I first tried Linux and hated it, I was introduced to the term “Baby Duck Syndrome,” referring to one’s distaste for something new because it’s different.
I got over that, and that’s why I consider myself OS agnostic. Now I just don’t use Linux because it’s a pain in the ass.
When you find a distro that works for your use case (assuming it can) you might find it is less of a pain than windows. As a software developer that is the case (provided I'm installing a popular well maintained distro).
@@genericdeveloper3966 I actually use a distro, specifically Mint, that's easy for linux beginners, has enough handy GUI tools while at the same time is linux. There is always a distro just for someone, they just have to find it. That's the true difficulty of switching to linux. Finding your perfect distro
@@bettercalldelta you dont have to find the "perfect distro" you can select a distro as the base and search for guides on how to customize it, this is the beauty of linux
In windows u install software in just few clicks
In linux u waste most of ur time in forums/google trying to find solution. yeah linux sucks bigtime
@@gravesupulturero3652 bro?
Alright so with windows you NEED a browser to install software first of all
Second of all getting the right site then waiting for the file to install then using the installer takes a while
I understand what you mean with Linux taking too long cuz of need of googling
But installing software on Linux isn't that had
Let's ay you're on a debian based distro
The package manager is apt
Now the command to get an app is this
Sudo apt install package-name
Sudo means you get higher powers to do stuff
Apt is using the package manager
Install is one of the tools of the package managers
Now your user should be sudo if you want this to work
In other distros you just have to get used to the package manager syntax, how it works and how to optimize it
In arch there is pacman
Sudo pacman -S
Pacman has a flag syntax so it isn't as readable
But pacman is much faster
Also you gotta make sure the package you need is available for the package manager
There are stuff like flatpaks, snaps or app images which want to have an universal package manager, thats great for new users cuz you just have to install one of these like flatpak and run the manager
You can use a gui with them
Flatpak has flathub Which has a gui and can install almost anything
Search on how to use flatpaks and you should have it set up and ready
The only reason I struggled with Linux is that going in I assumed that it would do anything as exactly as windows did. Instead of learning how to use Linux I growled in frustration and tried to make Linux act like Windows.
@The Blue Wave It worked out of the box. I just foolishly instead of learning to use Linux I used it as if it were Windows. Which led me to tons of frustration.
I think everybody with common sense would do that. That’s nothing wrong with your approach. On the Mac side you won’t have problems because it’s well designed not this shit
@@josecarlosxyz I disagree, Linux is not Mac and is not Windows. It isn't designed to be like either of the two. Just learn it and you will be able to do whatever you want in no time ;) . Linux isn't shit mate. Just different
@Nicolás Agustín Open the appstore, search your preferred web browser, click install.
What "10 mInUtEs WrItInG cOdE" is there?
@Nicolás Agustín Dude do you live in 2001? If you do I recommend investing in the stock market of the Google, Amazon and Apple. I know they are in a bad state now but in a few years they are going to become massive unstoppable giants.
Also in a few years something new and strange will come called Bitcoin. Buy every Bitcoin you can, trust me.
Jokes aside I have installed Linux in many devices and the only time I had an issue with wifi was with a realtek card becuase F*** realtek. Those drivers break in every OS! The past week a had another laptop which I updated from win8 to win10 and the Realtek wifi card driver broke and I had to buy an external wifi card. I can't stretch this enough F*** REALTEK!
Common, Linux is so frustrating, some basic stuff are causing time wasting and frustration. Why do i have to do "make install" and "config" from terminal? Why do i have to check on dependencies when i install programs? UI core design was always awful looking, even in Ubuntu 20.20 look at the shutdown and restart confirmation dialog. No support from Adobe, awful looking media players for music. Have been user of Ubuntu 10.04 to 20.20, CentOS 5-7, KaliLinux, ParrotOS, Knoppix, OpenSuse, Manjaro, Backbox. When ever i need answer i couldn't find it easy, there's just bloatware of answers on Stackoverflow for just simple question as "How do i run commands on repeat?" Do you know how much time i wasted just searching for simple "watch -n" command on fucin' stackoverflow?? And people writing whole script as answers. Nowadays i can't find why i can't flash my esp8226... Just community is so frustrating. As student we worked on Centos, and do you know how much time one person wastes just to instal php 7.2 because its old centos, and you need to find dependencies and update repository manually?? I mean why is it necessary to lose so much time for installing one simple program as php 7.2, only two persons in class made it including me. Dnf install is removed from old centos, Synaptic Package Manager was always my best friend in Ubuntu, but Centos dosen't have it. One of the most frustrating things was terminal resizing and aiming edge to resize terminal in some distros...... I mean common. Not so great System Monitor app, NO option in settings to change cursor icon, DEFAULT firefox browser as always, No volume mixer like MacOS also, No equalizer, as i said UI icons on all apps look square and old (only macos made it good looking, don't like font smoothing in macos thats why i dont use macos mostly and dock Space consumption, non closing apps, no normal windows maximizing, no window snap feature.. etc. nvm), if Linux was at least pretty as Macos i would have forgiven it all. I tried 2 days ago ubuntu 20.20, i had crash (settings panel) in 20 sec of using it Ubuntu, it is overly smooth and there is now WPS office alternative which looks good compared to openoffice and Libre.... I mean there's so much missing in Linux that Windows has..
Ubuntu 20.20? What is that?
@@ClifffSVK I mean ubuntu from 2020. Ubuntu 20.04
bUt YoU cAn RePlAcE cHaRmAp By WrItInG a ScRiPt!!!!
Yeah, if your use cases are those then you'll need to install addition tools from repositories/build from source. For programming/coding however, mac and Linux continue to supersede Windows
@@ye230 For programming/coding? How so? I'm IT student, so what about Visual Studio for example? Oh yea, there isn't one.... Microsoft became a standard for most apps and is kind of monopoly. I had issues in PyCharm regarding difference between "/" and "\" in Windows. And apps in Linux for me just look plainly awful by design
I have an aunt that constantly came to me with windows 10 issues on her laptop, mainly the webcam that got reinstalled as a scanner every time win10 updated. The guy at the computer shop told her to get a new laptop (she has an elitebook i5 3rd gen, still pretty decent) because windows 10 "requires" one to work properly. I told her that's a dumb suggestion, and I installed her Pop OS. She came back with other issues, mainly that Pop OS would randomly hang for no reason, or screw up an automatic update which required me to access the shell and fix it. In the end I installed her Ubuntu, and it's been smooth sailing since. I'd say that Linux is a great thing, but the "freedom" aspect of it is a double edge sword if you don't know how to handle it properly. Still though, even if Ubuntu is not the best example of a "truly" free experience, it's at the very least stable and reliable for most normies, and I'd rather see people running that than being forced to buy a new computer that they don't need
Freedom to do what though? Real freedom for me is an out of box experience that just works. In Windows I know an install will work, if I want to customise my GUI with a different shell I don't get another distro I just download an exe or msi and click click and I'm done, the real freedom is in having an OS that doesn't require you to troubleshoot it to get basic things working.
Imma be honest, this video entirely perpetuates the stereotype of linux users being up their own ass and childish, which never attracts new people to a product. This video will only drive people away from trying it rather than encouraging them
You don't know anything about him.
This video is a summary of why linux guys get memed the fuck on.
Bold of you to assume a linux user has the self awareness to get the point of your post.
I'm a urban planner and the programs I have to use don't run on Mac let alone Linux. I'm sure there are complicated ways to make them run or alternative programs that do similar work that also run on Linux but I can't abandon the common workflows, programs and methods we use because it's like a language we use and if I don't speak the language I can't function efficiently.
you could do what i do ans just have multiple hard drives tat you can set up and switch around as you need
Oh no, it’s not the terminal or the manual work that’s required for Linux. It’s the lack of software available that’s the real turn of for me and others I know. I’d go back to Linux in seconds if there was macro support on mice, keyboards and graphics tablets and fan control for things like fan curves and RGB.
Well, its both
It already exists, so... Get back?!
@@SleepTime-Dark i cant pair "E" to the stylus of my Huion tablet, so no it doesn't exist yet. its just not Linux's strung suit
My problems as a beginner:
Learning what certain packages are and what are their purposes.
Certain glitches that you need to search the corners of the internet to find a fix.
A good amount of programs feel halfass compared to their windows and mac counterparts.
You need to know how to read docs to even understand anything, but you're reading because you don't know anything.
It's that you kinda need to manage the system but as a beginner it's not possible since you're using a black box.
Edit
I wouldn't consider myself a beginner anymore
There are many distros that use a full GUI for everything like Linux Mint
@@markandrei4278 the point still stands
i kinda agree i used mint for like 6months after that i installed arch and some things in the wiki i just didnt understand and i start searching and visiting tons of websites and aaaaaaa but it ended up fine after half a day lol
it's a sacrifice
@@someonehere4380 that's pretty lucky sometimes I'll spend almost a week for one problem
Ya u may be right, but u forgot what technology is for, it's for simplifying the user's tasks.
And yes the customer should know or at least have an idea of what they're looking for.
About linux, it's kind of a mess. Everyone who tries linux is constantly on their browser searching for the easiest stuff like (how to paste in linux since its not ctrl v (ya why is that if copy is the same)
I gave it a try today and it was so disappointing, it lags and doesnt make sense, like why cant i make a new folder sometimes or exchange files in my boot drive.
Windows is just easier, more compatible and all on better.
Just use windows
Sorry but linux wasted my entire day and it wont let me reinstall windows bcz it wont copy my files on thw usb, and cant use rufus. Fk u linux lol
I've been using Linux Mint for almost two weeks and I agree with you. Even though Minecraft runs beautifully, now I can't play on LAN with my brother, so for me it isn't worth it. Besides, the video apps are laggy. I have the same issue with my usb flash drive. Were you able to fix it?
@@user-is7xs1mr9y i think i just used my laptop
Christ, the amount of elitism in the Linux community really puts me off.
Lol, well Linux users ARE the elite bro. You must be kidding if you think any relevant servers are being run off of Windows Server besides the one at your school or local hospital.
@Bobbybob Right, but in reference to Linux enthusiasts being elitist, they are not wrong considering 95% of users that are using Linux are engineers. That statistic might be way off, but I understand. If you're a standard user chances are that you're going to buy a Windows machine and get all the functionality provided to you. Most Linux Kernels require some setup and if you're a standard user looking to expand your skills, Linux may be up your alley but there a lot of thing you have to DIY into Linux to get the same functions as Windows.
@Bobbybob idk bro being an engineer is pretty 1337
Looking through the comments, I don't know which side I should be siding on.
I do understand that sometimes it's not as easy as flicking a switch, when switching from Window/Mac to Linux, it takes time to learn it, get a feel for it, and getting an old laptop just to play around with it on your spare time. I know with enough research and tinkering you can get used to the way Linux works. Sometimes depending on the distro it won't take long to get used to Linux.
I know I didn't switch to Linux cold turkey, I did some research on Linux beforehand, learned how everything worked, how to use it properly, and some tips and tricks. I was originally supposed to try it after college, but Windows made me so mad one day that I decided to cut things short and try it right away. It didn't take me long to figure everything-out, and I fell in love with it almost right away.
Could it be because I wasn't quite a Windows power user?
Could it be because I was a quick learner?
Could it be because I had all the time in the world to figure-out how Linux worked?
I frankly don't quite remember, but I did see that a couple people in the comments had massive issues switching from one to another, both software and hardware wise. I know Linux is a bit jank compared to Windows and Mac (anything and everything graphical will have screen tearing issues because of X, and every time you exit full screen on some apps it will screw-up the resolution, and so on...), and I know that most of it is because that specific piece isn't open source and that's sometimes the biggest problem with Linux; it's almost lottery like if you don't do the research.
If it works it's almost magical, but if you get a dud it's off-putting. All it takes is missing a single piece of the puzzle for everything to go awry (WiFi Cards, Graphics Cards, Printer Drivers, ...Fonts I don't know), but once everything is in place or get lucky and find a PC that works it can be a good time. I know nowadays you'll get a lot more hits then misses (Unless you use NVidia), but it's still demoralizing to get misses.
I understand that not everyone is as quick to learn new things as I am, and it's also hard to imagine myself in these people's shoes because of that. For me I like the power of Linux, but if Windows/Mac is what works best for you then so be it; whatever works works. I use a 10 year old hand-me-down BlackBerry as my daily driver because I don't need fancy modern phone features, all I need in a phone is a way to call, text, write notes, and a keyboard to type with ease. I've turned-down many offers from my mother to buy a new iPhone or Android for me because the old BlackBerry already satisfied me enough. And just like Windows or Mac power users, if the thing is giving you exactly what you need without hassle, then there's no real point to change.
For as much as I love Linux, I begrudgingly understand why some people won't switch to it.
One thing I saw pop up more than ever was people asking me, "If I download Linux can I use all my Windows programs on it?" There's none so blind....
@@fredscratchet1355 Beacause every software in Linux suck
I just come to your channel to see some elementary and solus reviews, and found pure gold.
Greetings from Chile.
Allow me to give you a brief recollection of all the times I stopped using Linux.
2005: Ubuntu didn't come with wifi drivers and all I had at that time was free wifi. Ndiswrapper didn't support my wifi adapter so I was screwed.
2009/10: nVidia drivers had a fatal error, causing Ubuntu to not even allow me to log in at the command line. I could have possibly fixed this with a reinstall, but I was fed up.
2013: Installed Gentoo unironically. It worked pretty well, but the laptop I had at the time wasn't capable of running games that well regardless of OS so I quickly replaced it.
The other day: Decided to try Linux Mint on a whim since I had a video playback issue in Windows I couldn't figure out. Only problem is that it seems Linux doesn't like my laptop's CPU (AMD FX-9830P) as it didn't even install a driver to allow for frequency and scheduler changes. Also, I would randomly get kernel level CPU hangups for 20+ seconds. Went back to Windows and a fresh install solved the problem I had before.
Point being: there are legitimate use cases for Linux, but there are also legitimate use cases for Windows. Sometimes, like the scenarios I listed above, your hand is forced one way or another. Other times, you're forced into it due to work, school, etc.
Which brings me to another point: going after home users is, was, and always will be a failing strategy. Windows gained dominance in the enterprise sector well before it became the defacto standard for home computers, while Linux has, to my knowledge, never made an honest attempt at that. Most servers in the world may run Linux, but those are probably being handled by the type of people who already use Linux. The majority of end users use Windows both at work and at home, because the former necessitates the latter in many cases. Now that most people are foregoing desktop computers altogether, the window of opportunity for Linux to gain ground is smaller than it has ever been. Ironically, it would take a company like Valve to get a good portion of people on board with making the switch long term.
Lastly, security is basically a farce regardless of OS. Both the CPU exploits and hypervisors that have come to light within the past few years basically negate any security advantages Linux may have had over Windows. I'll put my Windows 10 system with an AMD FX CPU, Shutup10 and anti-virus up against any Linux system that uses a comped CPU architecture.
I do still support open source software, and in fact use many open source programs regularly, but I think the community has always been misguided at best with regards to getting people on board with their cause. Videos like this appeal to the cheap seats in the crowd more than anything, and really give the impression that the community is just as much, if not more of a lost cause than ever.
Don't even think of getting good experience with NVIDIA. It should work out of the box with open source drivers(already present in the kernel) or if you are lucky enough NVIDIA will provide latest proprietary drivers for linux distros.
I would suggest you to try any one of ubuntu flavours or linux mint if you are getting any errors while booting. I have seen that they can boot with secure boot turned on(because of "signed kernel") and the handle errors better. It's just my opinion.
On a Ryzen 5 CPU, I was getting an error related to IOMMU. I tried kubuntu, it worked pretty well but it continued to show that error. Then I found out that it is preety much easy to turn IOMMU off using a kernel parameter or from BIOS settings. IOMMU is a virtualization related thing, windows doesn't use it, and as the laptop was pre installed with windows, I don't think OEM will release a BIOS update for issues in linux.
I agree with about microsquish and their dominance. They also have at least three solid advantages and massive headstart over every other operating system. Excel, software compatibility, and Active Directory. We looked into replacing windows on our end user devices, all 700 of them, but we ran into all three of the above mentioned points. There was no drag and drop AD replacement, several key enterprise dependent pieces of software had no Linux version and 2 wouldn't work with WINE, and no one can 100% replace excel not even office 365 fully replaces it for the top ~5% of power users. My fellow linux fanboys will try to counter that but excel has too many features and too much accrued technical credit. IE the accounting department has been developing and using their macros and scripts to work with the enterprise software and enterprise needs for decades. Good luck just porting all that over perfectly.
Just dual boot windows and a Linux distro in case you ever need to go back to windows on a whim
Or put windows on an external hard drive
I think his point is not that everyone should be using Linux, I agree, depending on what you're doing Linux is not the best option. His point is that the people that Linux would be good for won't even concider using it because they just want to be told what's the "best" as opposed to what's the best for them specifically. As someone who likes to get deep into stuff and change things around and develop new programs, I use Arch Linux. But if you aren't into changing every little thing or programming, a more preconfigured "get up and go" distro like Mint or Ubuntu may be for you. Maybe software you like has poor Linux compatibility and Windows or MacOS is the best fit for you. Maybe you just personally like Windows or Mac better. But his point is that people don't want to consider any of these things and just want to be told what they should use.
This would be more valid if you understood the time commitment that it takes to actually do the research and make these choices. Imagine you are paying someone to install their operating system and write some documents and make some spreadsheets for you. You want to be able to collaborate with them online on these, but you also want them to be able to hook into and modify your database using the same spreadsheet program. This person gets paid $50 an hour, and are decently technical.
Are you going to pay the money for them to simply research what programs are out there on Linux that can do what you want them to? Some can do one others can only do the other. And paying for that time is much more expensive than paying for Windows and Microsoft 365 license.
There will be a few customers for whom the risk of having Microsoft Access their data makes it no longer financially worth it, but for the majority of business users it makes the most financial sense.
Not to mention, having an outdated UI, like many programs built only for or primarily for Linux, can come at an extreme business risk. This is no more evident than in the recent case where a Citibank accidentally transferred 500 million and isn't getting most of it back.
You are only viewing the use of Linux within your own cage, a cage where your time, or the time of those who work for you, isn't literally worth money to you.
This is coming from someone who does use both Windows and Linux regularly.
>Entire video shows emerge on gentoo
>Linux elitist without touch with reality
>Windows / OSX users are slaves of the system
Everything checks out
I'm a software engineer and I am hardly beholden to what I'm given in any OS. I still can't stand Linux. I'll use it on a server and nothing else. Face it, nothing ever just works on Linux. I don't have enough time in my day to deal with all the driver issues Linux devs haven't put the time and resources in to fix.
What kind of software do you engineer?
it depends greatly on your hardware and what distro you are using... i for example tried kali once on my pc and it worked fine out if the box, if you installed duplicate versions of same software or have multiple packaging managers...well... it's not unusual to reach dependancy hell
There's one argument that you consistently overlook for people not to use Linux. The Linux community, with you being a good example of it. The demeaning attitude towards non-Linux users is one of the reasons that non-Linux users are demotivated to try Linux out.
Absolutely
True, this is the truest thing i ever heared thank you
How is that? About what bad attitude are you talking about?
@@Cookiekeks The way he talks about non-Linux users makes it clear that he looks down on them
@@MrGreatDane2 No not really. He just explained that non linux users are often overwhelmed by the choice linux offers you, because they are used to proprietery software without any freedom.
Linux is for the person with free time, above average computer knowledge and a f**kton of patience. You need those 3 things to use Linux, you can't deny that. It's not because of normies or people being institutionalized, it boils down to one simple sentence: "I want something that works when I need it to work". That is what a operating system should provide the average person, Windows does, Linux sadly doesn't. Linux is for someone with free time to experiment around, someone with a above average knowledge of computers and finally, last but not least: Patience, the patience to sit down for sometimes hours trying to install something, fix something or whatever else. I'm in no way anti-Linux, heck I've been daily driving for a while now. Linux isn't for the average person and that it what will always keep it from succeeding. The average person doesn't have time, knowledge or patience to run Linux, a advanced user does. To sum it up: If you want something that works when you need it to work, Windows is for you. If you are a advanced user with enough time, patience and knowledge and want to get away from big tech or if you just want a challenge or just something to experiment around with, Linux. (EDIT: I am in no way anti-Linux, I have a feeling I have to say that to get my point across. I want Linux to dethrone Windows, I want to see Windows being killed with Linux holding the knife and taking the crown of the king of OS's. The community is full of Linux supremacists who when someone gives a valid criticism they scream bloody murder and call them a institutionalized slave normie. Linux is only for the advanced user, it needs to become usable enough for the average user. Thank you for your time reading this. This is just my opinion and experience daily driving Linux, if I didn't have as much free time and patience as I do now I would have un-installed Linux f**king weeks ago I've gotten so frustrated at it. I'm not a extremely advanced user, I just understand the basics to run Linux. Thanks for reading this, just my opinion and experience with Linux and Windows)
As a "normie" i find it absolutely fascinating to listen to your view on how the OS defines the user experience to such a degree. There is a point however that you are missing about the 90% and that is: Windows is just a means to an end. As in, it doesn't really matter what OS it is as long as it works seamlessly with my other devices, updates itself and works out of the box no questions asked. If a game purchase does not work immediately you refund it. This ease of use and mindless usage is exactly what the end user wants in todays world because guess what, most people don't think about computers all the time and that includes people who use them all day. Very few people who are good at Linux use mint and the reason for it is for the most part the same reason you are not using Windows in the first place. So trying to capture the Windows audience by somehow copying it isn't going to work when the fundamentals are missing. Huawei isn't banned in Europe and was the preferred Android device for years until the Google ban. It's still a great device but without google services it's just not as appealing and as a result no one buys them anymore even with better specs and lower price. The same goes with Windows.
I've tried watching this video 3 times now over the course of 2021 and every time I reach a point where I stop because the smug elitism dripping from every other sentence passes the "asshole detection threshold" around the 3:00 mark.
Linux has a GUI problem, because the way you elitists use it, you might as well have your computer locked in a server farm in Tunisia accessed exclusively via a teletext terminal, because lord praise the holy command line. Nobody but the mentally handicapped wants to even look at the command line unless it's absolutely necessary, we even have completely FOSS GUI libraries natively built and universally compatable with all of Linuxdom, just to provide GUI options to otherwise CLI exclusive software while still staying as unobtrusive as possible. Yet it's treated like sunlight by you elitist vampires, because how dare you make Linux usable without the holy CLI bible spread across your unbelieving thighs at all times.
It's the computer equivalent of the religious clergy of the 8th century, holding humanity in "Microsoft (and Apple) Slavery" for the sake of the """purity""" of your backwards religion of the holy command line and it's scripture. The same obsession that even Linus Torvalds himself holds in open contempt as the anchor around Linux's neck keeping it stuck in the styles of the 70s. It's so bad that even he uses a stock Macbook as his daily driver since Ubuntu and Fedora both fell into the habits of the religion of CLI.
Well said!
This is one of those moments I wish I could like a comment twice. Very well put.
Wait until you need to move about 1k plus files with a certain file extension, love to see you how do it without using the mov
@@richterman3962 no average person does the stuff you just said, so keep waiting forever.
Kid thinks he is superior for using Linux lol, men people these days are so funny.
The video went from explaining the appropriateness Linux to teaching us about history and human values of free will,
Yes, this is deep
Despite having choice, the best choice is still mac. Choices don't mean much if they're all trash.
@@Otome_chan311 Maybe for you, but I still am team GNU/Linux. If Mac is so good why cant you add more ram LOL. Why are the macs glued together?
-r/am14anthisisdeep-
@@ILovePancakes24 And if you succeed to unglue the mac, it will self-destruct and automatically notify a hitman of your location.
@@theRPGmaster and if you disarm it a nuke is launched at your house
That analogy escalated very quickly 😂
Spot on, though.
I'm annoyed how accurate that analogy is, both from Linux and Windows sides.
Question: You are given the task of installing a Linux based OS onto computers for an elementary school lab that will be used by first grade children with near zero experience in computers.
What OS & software would you install for a child's first experience with a computer?
Children by their innate nature require a master/teacher for a while before they outgrow the need for one and become self governing. So picking a master is kind of a requirement of this scenario.
When I was in elementary our computers ran a modified version of Ubuntu with the XFCE desktop environment, and heavy restrictions on what you could do without the root password. We mostly used Libre office, Firefox, and a Tux-themed typing game, but there was also a lot of computer graphics programs installed as well. I think this setup worked well for kids, as it was secure, reliable, and ran well on the hardware we had, which was entirely donated computers.
The school's computer technician later set up some machines with full root access for the older kids (this was a K-12 school). Looking back, this was a very pivotal moment in my life, as it's when I first started taking an interest in computers and the digital world. Personally, I think every school should do something like this. It really saddens me seeing how younger people use computers (by computers, I mean anything with an operating system) every day without even a basic understanding of how they work. If we spent as much time teaching kids about how to use their computers to their full potential as we do teaching them about the ancient kings of foreign lands, I think they could go on to do great things.
Kubuntu. Easy as hell
I’d use linux mint, it’s great for beginner users
@@SupaKoopaTroopa64 And maybe then, more people would have the capacity needed to wrap their heads around things even windows does. I know I would have liked to learn more about computers in school (especially considering how vital it is these days) but I don't think my situation would have permitted it....
Catching up though!
Mac is a version of Linux. I think you know what happens next
Thank you for specifying 100 times that it's GNU/Linux. Because no one would understand the topic if you just said Linux. It's really important to assert dominance on them "normies". Show 'em how Linux community is the best at welcoming new users.
i get annoyed by it. everybody knows linux is the kernel, and gnu is the software around. to me it's linux anyway
@@willi1978 Can confirm, everyone knows linux is the kernel and not the software. Everyone meaning everyone that has a social life and has stepped outside their house at least once in this month.
I pay attention to the screen the whole time.
You can't disable other languages compatibility (ex: 0:34 russian.h, swedish.h, etc)in the compilation of a program?
Yes you can
wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Localization/Guide#L10N
You set a set of languages and packages supporting that use expand will compile only those languages.
Windows user here :D
For me it boils down to four things:
1.Linux still doesn't have all the specialized programs and games, you know, Linux gaming is a mess
2.Diversity of distros is both positive and hugely negative for Linux. I mean, every distro has it's own differences, its own design and feel. To be viable, Linux has to give users the more standardized experience.
3.Most distros still hugely rely on terminal for tons of actions, which is a big advantage for many, but for me it's just irritating and inconvenient, I tried to use it to perform given tasks, but still, if you're not into remembering and typing commands (which you totally aren't if you're not an enthusiast and/or professional), you won't benefit from it, it would be another negative point. Windows is better at this as you can do absolute most things without ever touching the terminal in your entire life. It's called user-friendly design, guys, follow it.
4.Speaking of different users, I'm not the only one using my PC, so it would require to teach others how to work with Linux, which really isn't always that easy. Alternatively, I could hook up dual boot, but I'll need to explain it to less technical users of my PC, as normies expect for a PC to just turn on and run Windows straight away
It blows me away that Geek Squad customers would be asking questions about Linux.
If the black people figthing for the confederacy were slaves then they didn't have a choice in whether they fight though?
Am I missing something here? It sounds like saying "prisoners are stuck in prison because they like it, they would leave otherwise".
as a windows user, ive tried linux. Nothing worked properly.
With technology people want things to work and not wasting their time
@UwU from my experience windows works well
@UwU I'm sorry, but blanket statements like "it works better" are just silly. In some ways, a dragster works better than my Toyota, but I'd be insane to use one as my "daily driver". And those are just cars. Operating systems are orders of magnitude more complex, way more versatile, and can be evaluated and compared in countless ways. In my opinion, Linux absolutely shines as a developer's OS and an embedded OS (mobile, console, IoT, server, etc.), but as a consumer OS it's severely lacking.
as a non gnu + linux user, my guess is that once someone gets the hang of the linux way for task management and software installations then he's prepared to take on the world of linux.. depending on the language ofc c++ for example
what decisions? i have to programm a programme which programs me a program with 2 megabyte parameters in the cmmand line to create a programme i can use now to make a beep
I always liked having full control over my computer, and i managed to do that while still using Windows. You just need to know how to modify it as you like. On a windows 10 install nowadays I always remove every bit of telemetry, limit windows update to only install security updates and remove everything i dont use (Onedrive ,windows store, microsoft edge, etc) There isn't a easy way to do it but it is possible to make your own custom Windows
I recommend doing this on Windows 10 LTSC/LTSB ,as it comes un-bloated out of the box. For activation you can buy a key legally or otherwise use methods like Windows Activation Script or some registry tweaks to use Non-Activated Windows without the watermark and such.
As I've said many many times, Linux OS (or GNU) is really only recommended for people who are intermediate to advanced programmers/software developers and/or people running servers. Linux is just not user friendly compared to either Windows or MacOS, and there's a lot of technical stuff you have to do on Linux manually (especially on the terminal) to make Linux the way you want it to. The average user is not technical, they just want something that works out of the box and something they can interact with (the terminal just freaks the average user out).
The most user friendly Linux distro that people who are especially more familiar with Windows and Mac can use is Ubuntu. The problem is Ubuntu is not pre-installed on any hardware and you have to do that manually, which the average user can't, and even then, there isn't that much good software in Ubuntu like there is with Windows and Mac that people can get accustomed to.
Brp i just don¡t use it because i always have either an audio bug or a screen size bug or something else it always caused me problems
bruh why are you being so edgy about it lmao
I like the idea of Gentoo, but I have trouble using it thanks to the sheer manual nature of even installing the OS. I know exactly what I want to do with it, I know the size of the partition I want to make, I know which profile I want to set, which desktop environment or window manager I would like to use, it just takes so much manual effort that could be simplified with a basic chain of installation menus, or a script that goes over everything automatically and prompts you if there's an option you can change, that I find it difficult to love at the end of the day, and would rather just boot a KUbuntu LiveUSB and click througb the graphical installer, and if I wanted to customize it I would just figure things out in the postinstall.
I really feel being alled out mainly because, as someone who grew up and always used windows, I have no idea from where should I begin to study Linux or any other free OS exactly because there's so many of them that, at this point, I just feel overwhelmed.
Can I get at least one hint as the where should I look for the first steps on this?
I would google "how to learn Linux properly". Personally every experience with Linux has been a concentrate of pain. It's not that " it should just work", it's that "nothing ever works, and you will never know why". If possible, get a human friend that knows Linux to help you. Without that, I think it's a hopeless task. All guides are wrong, there are always step missing, and that one missing step is always a terminal line command. Which you will never guess, because how the fuck would you, as a beginner.
@@notMattGarska yeah tell me about it. I can't get my iwlwifi (intel WiFi) to work on any distribution I've tried lol.
Racecar Johnny and I both find this video insightful and interesting. Well...at least I do.
Interesting, yes. One of the worst desktop operating systems? No. Linux is one of, if not the best desktop operating systems.
@@MichaelJHathaway Nit picking Linux isn't a OS it's a kernel;)
Vroom vroom
As a Windows user, who knows every useful keyboard shortcut and plays with settings, and who is only now slowly learning about GNU/Linux, I wouldn't be able to answer your question as well. I want to do literally everything on my computer, maximum optionality. So far, Windows has allowed me to do everything for 25 years :D It seems to me that the focus with GNU/Linux distros isn't on the WHAT, but on the HOW.
Compiling code can be an absolute pain in Windows and required gigabytes of downloaded VS tools. In Linux it just works out of the box with GCC.
I'm humbled with work you do bro! I need the continuation for the installation video of Arch Linux
I discovered you *and then* found Luke Smith from people comparing you to him.
Curb your elitism. I find it ironic to mix 'free' software and GNU together.
Wow. This really made me think. If I was in that situation asking about linux to you I would have many questions because I’m looking to break free from windows, but I have that institutionalized mentality sometimes and I am scared about trying out linux because I’m afraid of how complicated it might be or that I might screw it up. I’m going to keep researching linux so I know what I’m getting into. Great video.
I got Lubuntu and neon plasma, in both i couldn't turn auto login on wake.
Is this good enough of a reason?
Yeesh, the sheer amount of arrogance in this video is incredible. You wanna know why people use Mac or Windows? Because those Operating Systems actually work most of the time. It's funny to me how software glitches in Windows are seen as evidence that Windows is horrible and should not be used, but when software problems in Linux (which are numerous) occur its always "you're a normie because you actually wanted something that just worked. How dare you expect the thing you're using to do the things we claimed it would".
Dunno, I have much less bugs/glitches/errors/trouble using GNU/Linux than Windows
In my opinion, I have a poor laptop with linux because sometimes I need to modify things on my smartphone or USB and there are no tools in Windows to do it, and first of all, I have not been able to update the software because the download fails, sometimes “a unexpected error” happens and refuse download things for a while or it simply restarts, the performance on desktop or simple things is indeed superior to Windows, but when trying to run a game it goes much slower than Windows, no matter what it does.
My main computer have Windows installed (first 7 and now 10) it only failed when I did not disable Windows Update and downloaded drivers not compatible with my components, and when I try to open ridiculously heavy games for my PC (a BSOD saying that the display driver did not respond) it may work well for some but at least for me, I have Linux as a very, very, VERY secondary system (I would switch to MacOS if I had the chance, but I don't have a hackintosh compatible PC).
Honestly I think Windows/Mac just shoves their glitches under the rug and doesn't tell you what's going on. Just because it's less visible doesn't mean it's less numerous
But yeah this video is arrogant af
@@Darticus42 Good. Shove the glitches under the rug. As long as I don't have to constantly tinker around in the terminal just to get my sound to work.
Loved the condescension in your voice the entire time. If I had never used Linux before and met you before I had I would think twice before I downloaded any distro.
Human beings are not born with the innate knowledge of how software addresses hardware. I am not a vehicle mechanic so in that logic I have no right learning how to drive.
as a new subscriber/viewer i wasn't aware of what distro you used... and the moment i saw it being a compiler video my first thought was gentoo, then at the end of one of the compiles it said gentoo for a noob i somewhat feel good about recognising this small thing.
Me trying to install aquatone from many days , had hard time running it , after installing chromium browser , it cant find it, then had to give the path, and it doesn't run gives random error messages and no one knows how to resolve it in the issues in github , some one told to install chromium from snap, tried to install snapd other errors reg version had fo google it , looks like we need to have less version of python, wanted to downgrade ,but again it needd apt add ho my god, trouble shooting, errors . This is not only me every time I ggole a question there are lots of people with so many threads trying to resolve it , ir doesn't actually.instead i will chose to run gui exes omc
Currently studying computer engineering, and Linux is an awesome OS at various points of view, but MY GOD does it demand time to learn something new each step you take.
Every error is an awful amount of time having to tinker with the system and the .1% of applications that do support your distro and I simply cannot waste time on this when I want to actually use something.
Tried to use it for 6 months and just gave up. Maybe when I have less stuff to do I can learn each comma from each documentation of each program/API.
And one tip. This "normie" thing is really annoying and I bet it keeps away many people from outside this community. Really really annoying using it non ironically.
A perfect analogy for you is when you enter a new field... you'll wonder why whoever you're asking doesn't know that you're new to the field. The expert should know what the new person needs to know. Not ask them questions that they would only know if they weren't.
I mean "what do you usually do on your computer" isn't really an expert level question
@@aryajpegasus At which point you will get the answer 'I turn it on'... as the expert in a field of any kind you should know this
@@SquaredbyX wow, maybe they are really a slave
I started using it like a week ago and have had no issues doing everything i do on windows besides playing certain games. The three main differences are:
Installing programs- instead of going to the site and downloading an exe and running the setup, you open synaptic package manager and search for it and install it that way. For less popular programs just copy and paste the commands they tell you on git for your distro.
File system-the home directory is kind of like the user directory on windows. But programs install on the root directory and it seems kind of random which folder they go to instead of just all going to one folder (like program files) on windows.
Permissions- anything in the root directory requires permission to change which was very frustrating to me at first because if you google how to edit a file or copy a folder to another directory everyone tells you to use some command. But i have no idea what the different parameters do and such and its really tedius for doing basic things. What I discovered just the other day and wish someone would have told me is that you can just open a folder as root and then you can do whatever u want with the files just like windows, without having to bother with the terminal. This is what should come up when people google how to edit a file that requires root permission. Not sudo whatever. Once i realized that it became just as easy as windows and you never need to learn the terminal at all. Just copy and paste a line in there every now and then.
Good point. This also explains why so many people constantly complain about having too much choice and diversity in the Linux ecosystem. When this is in fact also one of the greatest strengths. Linux takes a while until you get used to, especially when you're expecting everything to work just like on Windows.
It's like capitalism. There can be 500 knock-off dr pepper brands but the reality is they're all trash and pointless to look at when you could just get the proper brand name one.
Here is why so called "choice" is a bad thing. Linux is highly specialized "do one thing but do it well" mentality. Which means that you may need to mix and match different pieces of software for pretty much anything you do. The more there are, the more likely you won't find a good one for you, just an ok one. Sometimes you don't even know what you are looking for. Windows and Mac don't just "limit" your choices, they present you with something is actually a great combination on its own.
Linux was meant to be run on large, multi user computer. Windows and Mac were designed to be run on a personal computer. Low and behold that is exactly where each system is used. Servers, university research, internet of things, automation mostly running Linux and PCs running Windows and Mac. I really don't get why people still try to shoehorn Linux where it doesn't belong. And even more so with people like the author of this video that looks down on Linux Mint when that is literally the best match for regular PC use.
@@A_Box Linux is not highly specialized, quite the opposite actually. It can run on many more hardware configurations out of the box and its monolithic kernel is the opposite of "do one thing".
Linux just heavily suffers from the problem that the number of users doesn't warrant ports of popular software which again limits the number of potential users, so the software that actually exists and works well is mainly targeted at the power users and server admins that don't mind using it.
@@SaHaRaSquad Just Linux Mint, the friendliest version of GNU/Linux has 3 separate desktop environments. You don't even have to question what a desktop environment is in Windows nor Mac, it is taken care for you. That is what I am talking about. There are so many bits and pieces here and there that you have to worry about. This indeed makes it run on many hardware configurations but this is also why utterly fails at being simple PC operative system.
@@A_Box please explain how Linux is highly specialized when it can run on anything from a toaster to a smartphone to a supercomputer, supports many processor architectures, even obsolete ones, supports hardware in the kernel going back 2 decades, and has pretty much all the software that is *not* specialized and platform specific (Adobe Creative Suite, Final Cut Pro, etc...) available on pretty much all the main distros.
Baffling assertion.