Why Build Colossus? (Bill Tutte) - Computerphile

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  • @peterjohnson9438
    @peterjohnson9438 6 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    I'd listen to Brailsford talking about pretty much anything. Keep him on as long as possible :)

    • @oneofspades
      @oneofspades 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lol. I watch more of his videos than all other Computerphiles combined. Probably re-watch more of his videos than others

  • @aleewade4162
    @aleewade4162 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Awesome video as always. From the video, "Tommy said to them, I've been doing research on use of thermionic valves in telephone exchanges..." Valves had been used for since 1915 to amplify long distance calls. The genius of Tommy Flowers was his research into _switching_ calls electronically. He was way ahead of his time... and sadly under-recognized for his contributions.

    • @lucky7950
      @lucky7950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also, I saw elsewhere that Newman turned down the fully electronic idea at first, but Tommy Flowers went back to Dollis Hill and built it anyway. Then later when they realised he was right he delivered it within days. So sad he died poor because he spent his own money on building it and nobody thought to at least pay his expenses. Disgusting really, and he just went back to his job at Dollis Hill, someone like Newman could have helped him but there was a lot of snobbery then and Flowers came from the east end and sounded cockney. Sigh.

    • @notgadot
      @notgadot ปีที่แล้ว

      *recogniSed

    • @dacramac3487
      @dacramac3487 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@notgadot Recognized is also correct in British and American English. E.g. see Cambridge dictionary or Collins Dictionary. Oxford English Dictionary.

    • @notgadot
      @notgadot 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dacramac3487 no.

  • @NeilRoy
    @NeilRoy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I always love listening to him, doesn't matter what the topic is. Such a treasure.

  • @PandoraMakesGames
    @PandoraMakesGames 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Professor Brailsford is the boss!

  • @LetsDoRedstone
    @LetsDoRedstone 6 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I love all the videos with professor Brailsford!

    •  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, he seems like a genuinely nice guy with a lot of knowledge to share, and the enthusiasm to share it well. I'd watch more videos with him any time. :)

  • @nab-rk4ob
    @nab-rk4ob 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the WWII and code breaker talk. Please keep him talking about this.

  • @juststeve5542
    @juststeve5542 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Legend...
    And Tommy Flowers, being a practical man, not just theoretical, was spot on... Valve last for years if you just leave them running.

  • @MA-eo9rl
    @MA-eo9rl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Such an interesting topic and such a calm and intelligent man

  • @dmsanct
    @dmsanct 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the english being all like "you know that encryption algorithm you thought was beyond human capability to decipher? well, we cracked it" was one of the biggest mic drops in history

  • @artemonstrick
    @artemonstrick 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can listen to this guy forever

  • @sclabhailordofnoplot2430
    @sclabhailordofnoplot2430 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    His heat sync speech on tubes is still valid today on all electronics or breaker boxes.

  • @DrRChandra
    @DrRChandra 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is one thing assembly language programmers usually learn. Back in the 8 bit microprocessor days, you used to look at how many bytes an immediate load used to take, like LD A, 0 on the Z80, and how long it took to execute, and compare that with a similar operation like XOR A, A, a lot of times it took less time (clock cycles) or less space or both to do the XOR. As long as you knew this as an idiom, or made code comments, it didn't reduce readability/intelligibility.

  • @trcostan
    @trcostan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I use valves (tubes in my case) all the time. They are still quite common in medium to high power transmitters. The same holds true, we like to bring the filament up slowly using a variac or even a built in so called soft start circuit. They are highly reliable if treated properly and can be abused much more so then transistors in similar applications. As the old saying goes a MOSFET is one cycle from exploding at all times! Don’t get me wrong I don’t want to go back but it amazes me how fragile people thought tubes could be and my experience is exactly the opposite

  • @manfrommars3486
    @manfrommars3486 6 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Look how times have changed: from "Never turn off the computer" to "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"

    • @Diggnuts
      @Diggnuts 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I still live by the mantra of never turning computers off unless hardware needs to be added.
      Years ago I noticed that most of the PSU and harddisk failures would occur after power-downs,equally for planned and unplanned outages. Regardless whether the servers were brought down for a soft landing via UPS's. After startup, there would almost always be something that died.

    • @DJoppiesaus
      @DJoppiesaus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What about power consumption? Unless a secondary goal is heat, you're wasting electricity.

    • @Diggnuts
      @Diggnuts 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      DJoppiesaus? What about it? It is mine to waste!
      Also keep in mine that the energy expenditure in creating a new computer, the case, components, everything, takes so much more energy than an average single system will ever use in it's lifetime.
      Keeping hardware alive for longer actually saves energy on the whole.

    • @e4r281
      @e4r281 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only on Windows

    • @snoballuk
      @snoballuk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      "Have you tried turning it off very slowly and then turning it on again very slowly?"

  • @Kennephone
    @Kennephone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It took all that to decipher messages from the enigma machine, and a modern office computer could perform every calculation colossus did in it's useful life in a fraction of a second

  • @martijnheeroma5492
    @martijnheeroma5492 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks again Professor Brailsford

  • @ronny-san1158
    @ronny-san1158 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is really funny that I saw the your Enigma Videos about a year ago, decided to make it the topic of my seminar paper (the exact Topic is 'deciphering machines at Bletchley park') and just when i came to the chapter about the Tunny and Colossus I found this video uploaded not long ago xD

  • @AustrianAnarchy
    @AustrianAnarchy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dr. Forbin's answer was quite sufficient, thankyouverymuch.

  • @alexhayden2303
    @alexhayden2303 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My uncle worked at Dollis Hill, with Tommy Flowers.
    He never spoke of his work. (Wretched man!)

    • @lucky7950
      @lucky7950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My father worked there as well before the war but never talked about it much and he left in 1938 to join the BBC.

  • @MouseFloof
    @MouseFloof 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    heh, I have something to attest to the power of tubes being gently heated and kept at slow-ish smoulder...
    The Hammond Novachord :3

  • @Zadster
    @Zadster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interestingly, in all the books I have read about Alan Turing, Bletchley Park and so on, there is very little connection mentioned between Alan Turing and Tommy Flowers, and I believe Turing had long moved on to Hanslope Park (early 1943) to work on voice encryption by the time Colossus actually became "Turing Complete" and properly programmable with decision branches and loops. So we end up with the man who defined what a computer is, and the "first" (yes, Konrad Zuse etc, I know) programmable electronic computer in the same place, but with seemingly no link between them.

    • @dustysparks
      @dustysparks 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Much of the information about Colossus remained classified WELL after Enigma, well into the mid-2000's. The blue book on the table under his papers is "Colossus: The secrets of Bletchley Park's code-breaking computers" by Jack Copeland, worth a read but it is a long book. More information is coming out now that authors have keywords to do their FOIA requests or whatever the British equivalent is. The Imitation Game staring Benedictory Cucumberpatch stirred up a lot of renewed interest in Turing and others from that time and Bletchley Park in general.

    • @lucky7950
      @lucky7950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dustysparks Some of it is still secret I read, probably for another 29 years, like other records from WW2. I would love it if Cucumberpatch would play Tommy Flowers but that would be too confusing and he's too posh. Maybe "My name is ..." or someone else a bit younger. I am reading Copeland's book and have a personal connection to Dollis Hill as my father worked there before the war.

  • @rohandvivedi
    @rohandvivedi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I Love all of computerphile videos

  • @jeongheonlee4556
    @jeongheonlee4556 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could never wrap my head around that code could be cracked by statistics. but now i can thanks to him!

  • @nilstrieb
    @nilstrieb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Double Z is actually rather rare in German, since for most words TZ instread of ZZ is used.

  • @davel8116
    @davel8116 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there anything better than a Brailsford video?

  • @EddyGurge
    @EddyGurge 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love listening to him.

  • @jmhimara
    @jmhimara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ABC (Atanasoff-Berry Computer) always gets the short end of the stick, I think. It preceded the Colossus and was the first computer to use Binary. It also relied on vacuum tubes for the computation.

    • @georgegonzalez2476
      @georgegonzalez2476 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes but it was hard-wired to do one particular problem, Gaussian elimination with a set of equation coefficients. And the memory was mechanical. Close but not quite what we consider a fully electronic computer, and definitely not programmable.

  • @Ben786
    @Ben786 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I've just realized why I love hearing Professor Brailsford speak - he sounds just like Winnie the Pooh!

  • @kizmetmars
    @kizmetmars 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Because building Colossus increases trade?

    • @AlthenaLuna
      @AlthenaLuna 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fittingly, Elizabeth even just beat me to building it. :-|

  • @micaiaskauss
    @micaiaskauss 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like this guy

  • @nathantron
    @nathantron 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Imagine the change that would have happened if someone took a simple Raspberry Pi back in time to the scientists/arithmeticians working on this stuff.

    • @rr.studios
      @rr.studios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I doubt they had the necessary ports back then.

  • @simonpickles3027
    @simonpickles3027 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always love a strategically-placed Rubik's Cube

  • @ThePharphis
    @ThePharphis 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is similar to X-Ray sources for crystallography (Cu, Mo, etc.)
    There is a working-voltage and a standby-voltage and these instruments (to be used by researchers) is only to be turned off for maintenance or long pauses in work schedules

  • @juweinert
    @juweinert 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow. I mean they could've simply prohibited double characters. You would be able to properly understand the whole message once decrypted but would get rid of this weakness by the cost of an order...

    • @MN-sc9qs
      @MN-sc9qs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wouldn't there still be a problem of coded numbers for things like coordinates and quantities? I'm just guessing.

    • @georgegonzalez2476
      @georgegonzalez2476 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes there were rules about repetitions and a suggestion to insert plenty of nulls. Not followed?

  • @GaleAeras
    @GaleAeras 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Because they are good against light units

  • @RobinWootton
    @RobinWootton ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant!

  • @nicholasmaude6906
    @nicholasmaude6906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know why the Colossus computers didn't use sub-miniature valves as the computer would've been smaller and used less power.

    • @georgegonzalez2476
      @georgegonzalez2476 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There were only a few miniature valves back then, the 6J6 and 6AK5, and neither one was available in the UK. There were a few subminiature tubes but their whole production was used in making VT fuzes and walkie-talkies. Also the subminiature tubes were not very reliable, they were very fragile, except for the VT fuze ones.

  • @rkpetry
    @rkpetry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *_...so you're saying Germany lost their war because they didn't convert all-double-letters to singles, like ss = ß... you'd probably also have to figure all-statistically-interesting-pairs that produce more 0's, (even depending on various, shiftings), if, you know, their set of character-to-bit conversions..._*

  • @chrissmith2114
    @chrissmith2114 ปีที่แล้ว

    Strange thing is Flowers was never allowed to build his electronic telephone phone exchange

  • @psychedalek
    @psychedalek 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would the Germans have known character doubling was an inherent flaw in encryption? perhaps a "drop one letter from all double letter words" directive should have been implemented!

  • @rfvtgbzhn
    @rfvtgbzhn ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand that with the double letters. The plain text is XORed with the key text, but double letters would only influence the balance between 1s and 0s if you'd XOR adjacent letters within the plain text according how it is described in the video.

    • @georgegonzalez2476
      @georgegonzalez2476 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, me too. Why would you XOR adjacent letters? No idea.

    • @jamesweatherley7764
      @jamesweatherley7764 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@georgegonzalez2476 You wouldn't , and nor did the Germans. Bletchley would try settings, and then XOR the possible decrypt with itself skewed by one. If you got an abundance of zeroes then there was a chance you had identified the plaintext which would likely contain double letters.

  • @obvioustruth
    @obvioustruth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @0:04

  • @danieljensen2626
    @danieljensen2626 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder what the clock speed was for that thing. A few Hertz? 100?

    • @Tevildo
      @Tevildo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Daniel - 25 kHz, limited by the maximum speed of the input paper tape rather than the electronics.

    • @teeesen
      @teeesen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rather than trying to synchronize the tape drive speed to the computer’s clock, the clock was based on a photocell for the tape’s perforation, so the clock speed depended entirely on how fast the tape was going past the photocells, which was typically 5000 symbols per second. So the clock speed was 5kHz. There were 5 parallel counting units, giving 25,000 operations per second. Overclocking was possible, but tended to break the tape.

  • @Thebf1000
    @Thebf1000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You shouldn't, they get easily countered by the zerg's corruptors.

    • @martixy2
      @martixy2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or vikings...

  • @11Kralle
    @11Kralle 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    We should never have insisted on 'stickstofffreie Schifffahrtsspeziallagerrechte'!

  • @paulmorissette5863
    @paulmorissette5863 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did the British secure their empire wide communications?

  • @Youthure
    @Youthure 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting!

  • @Keex11
    @Keex11 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why? To play Numberwang, of course.

  • @maxsnts
    @maxsnts 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What? So if they "transmited" the "mesage" with purpose "mispeling" by removing the double chars... the "mesage" would be readable but not crackable?

    • @TorgieMadison
      @TorgieMadison 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great thought! Also check out my comment above about how you could design an encoding scheme to balance out the 1's and 0's. With your method and mine I feel like the resulting decryption task would be MUCH more difficult.

    • @mal2ksc
      @mal2ksc 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are some simple ciphers that disallow double letters by inserting a character in between, like X. This isn't for security, it's because they encode letter pairs and will choke on a double letter. I don't know if they add the X when the doubled letter falls in two separate letter pairs, but regardless, this increases the frequency of the letter X which itself can become a clue for cryptanalysis.
      In other words, I think changing the clear in a systematic way would end up generating a statistical bias. It would just be a _different_ statistical bias from the one it was trying to solve.

  • @uwekonnigsstaddt524
    @uwekonnigsstaddt524 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool Hawaiian shirt!

  • @hrnekbezucha
    @hrnekbezucha 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    For our yank friends, thermionic valve is a vacuum tube.

    • @WAQWBrentwood
      @WAQWBrentwood 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any one watching these types of videos is hip to that, LOL.

  • @normallytangent
    @normallytangent 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how did they go about estimating which letter the exclusive ORs represented? A neophyte here, thanks a lot!

    • @gordonrichardson2972
      @gordonrichardson2972 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The frequency distribution of double letters in most languages is fairly easy to determine in advance. With German, it could be something as simple as the old fashioned character ß (long S) being transmitted as ss on the teletype machine.

  • @maxsnts
    @maxsnts 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And now... you could probably do it in a crappy Arduino, let alone a Raspberry!

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      of course, those machines are a billion times faster than Collosus .

  • @Yaddlezap
    @Yaddlezap 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If only the Germans had been broadcasting in lipograms excluding double letters, lol.

  • @ArexNightSKULL
    @ArexNightSKULL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    His nasal voice reminds me of winnie the pooh... 😅

  • @dosmastrify
    @dosmastrify 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    ... To crack the code... Duh...

  • @edgeeffect
    @edgeeffect 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh go on.... you're recreating the 40s.... say "stroke" not "forward slash". ;)

  • @omri9325
    @omri9325 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pizza! 2 Z

    • @yondaime500
      @yondaime500 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or pizzazz. I wonder if the military every use that word though.

  • @marquesjozefowicz1732
    @marquesjozefowicz1732 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1st

  • @qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqw
    @qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    could just have droped the double leters in their mesages