I swear every time I hear an NYPD critical incident, it's just chaos. They just yell back and forth. It's not just dispatch, it's the individual officers. Dispatcher kept being asked the same question over and over. I don't blame her as much as the officers, though she should be trained that she can take some command of transmissions and officer communications. She needs to be able to direct officers to a certain degree to make things happen (unless an officer is taking command on the air).
Nope. I know Chief Monahan's voice when he was a Captain Manhattan, but the Chief talking is Purtell. One of the best bosses around back then. When he got promoted to Sgt in the Bronx, I told him back then he's gonna be a chief and he laughed it off. You would knw that he really knew his shit. He knew the patrol guide by memory and he always made decisions accurately and fast. He should have been made a 4 star and I think he would have been a better 4 star than Monahan, but the powers didn't like him thought differently. Lost all respect for Monahan when he kneeled. Purtell would not have done that.
It's mainly the officers with the issues. They're all over the place. As someone mentioned, officers kept asking the same thing over and over. You wouldn't pass FTO / newhire training over here being that scattered and excitable over the radio on a critical call. It's not just this call, its almost all critical NYPD calls I hear. Having said that, the dispatcher still needs to control the air to a degree of its interfering but my guess is that they're not trained in that way over there.
I couldn’t do this job it was total chaos until chef stepped in and said send backup and less repeated questions . Hats off to all who can do this job! And God protect you all
mmutk I was thinking the same thing, but I realize its likely just due to my west coast untrained ear. I commend the NYPD. They are certainly talented in ways that I would've never considered, because I almost went insane just listening to the radio traffic.
I did some checking on radio reference I don't know how accurate this info is, NYPD has Project 25 SSE5000 (portables) high band UHF split which I am not familiar with. There was a lot of tail squelch from those either portable or mobile units in the audio feed. Seems odd the city of N.Y. has not changed over to trunked radio, the majority of Metro Public Safety/Local Government in other states are on board.
As a police dispatcher for Philly...she needed to keep more calm...let the units know they were getting their busses...fireboard...and stop repeating their call signs repeatedly. I've had stuff pop off...shots fired...etc... Did she have a dispatching partner??? That person should have been calling for her ambulances...letting radio superiors know...etc...take notes as to who said what...who called the Level 1 response... Calm voice...even when your heart is beating out of your chest...is key...
Having worked in Public Safety for now 25 years, with a concentration in Fire/EMS and 911 communications, I can tell you if I was the Citywide that day, one thing would have happened for sure..... A lot of disciplinary action and mandatory trainings for sure!
3:00 The citywide chief knows how to take care of business on the radio.
Thank GOD for that.
9:55 someone still asking for a description of a perp in custody and NO others outstanding
I swear every time I hear an NYPD critical incident, it's just chaos. They just yell back and forth. It's not just dispatch, it's the individual officers.
Dispatcher kept being asked the same question over and over. I don't blame her as much as the officers, though she should be trained that she can take some command of transmissions and officer communications. She needs to be able to direct officers to a certain degree to make things happen (unless an officer is taking command on the air).
3:02 shit got real!
Is that Chief Monahan at the 3 minute mark?
Nope. I know Chief Monahan's voice when he was a Captain Manhattan, but the Chief talking is Purtell. One of the best bosses around back then. When he got promoted to Sgt in the Bronx, I told him back then he's gonna be a chief and he laughed it off. You would knw that he really knew his shit. He knew the patrol guide by memory and he always made decisions accurately and fast. He should have been made a 4 star and I think he would have been a better 4 star than Monahan, but the powers didn't like him thought differently. Lost all respect for Monahan when he kneeled. Purtell would not have done that.
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Bad communication...... could've been better. The dispatcher was horrible.
All New York City dispatchers are like this, if not worse.
Not the fire dispatchers, they are awesome.
The police dispatcher can’t control those NYPD squirrels
mmutk it don't matter. You don't respond with questions. I heard all calls she wasn't even responding to.
It's mainly the officers with the issues. They're all over the place. As someone mentioned, officers kept asking the same thing over and over. You wouldn't pass FTO / newhire training over here being that scattered and excitable over the radio on a critical call. It's not just this call, its almost all critical NYPD calls I hear.
Having said that, the dispatcher still needs to control the air to a degree of its interfering but my guess is that they're not trained in that way over there.
I couldn’t do this job it was total chaos until chef stepped in and said send backup and less repeated questions . Hats off to all who can do this job! And God protect you all
And on that day, Lunch was served.
God bless the Chef.
:-)
*Way to go Citywide Chief!* Stop the needless interrogation and get backup units 84!!
Best Police force in the world... NYPD True Blue Hero's...
Joe Brunner heroes*
Good job Chief. Commanding Officers should not be asking questions about shooting in the middle of a 10-13.
NYPD has the worst radio etiquette in the nation. No control everyone rambling at the same time
mmutk I was thinking the same thing, but I realize its likely just due to my west coast untrained ear. I commend the NYPD. They are certainly talented in ways that I would've never considered, because I almost went insane just listening to the radio traffic.
I agree but if their system was trunked that would help prevent this crap. I’d go crazy on a non-trunked system.
I did some checking on radio reference I don't know how accurate this info is, NYPD has Project 25 SSE5000 (portables) high band UHF split which I am not familiar with. There was a lot of tail squelch from those either portable or mobile units in the audio feed. Seems odd the city of N.Y. has not changed over to trunked radio, the majority of Metro Public Safety/Local Government in other states are on board.
TheTheo58 and that would be the reason for the bottle necking on the channel. Thx for looking into it. Was curious.
We have more cops working in one precinct than you have in your whole dept. Cut the crap.
Is this the same dispatcher that dispatched the call for the police officer killed recently?
amazing response by FDNY, NYPD, and Medical!
CaliforniaFireBuff this sounds real
it is real...
This didn’t take long to get
Outstanding. All
These guys need to get ear pieces. Half the the problem is they cant hear/dont listen to other transmissions. Needless chatter.
All who have have something to say about this dispatcher can you do better🤔
Pooh G I can.
With the training she's received, probably.
Yep I reckon I could do better. I think she should have got the location and sent armed back up for NYPD ASAP. And then ask questions 👍✌️✌️
As a police dispatcher for Philly...she needed to keep more calm...let the units know they were getting their busses...fireboard...and stop repeating their call signs repeatedly.
I've had stuff pop off...shots fired...etc...
Did she have a dispatching partner??? That person should have been calling for her ambulances...letting radio superiors know...etc...take notes as to who said what...who called the Level 1 response...
Calm voice...even when your heart is beating out of your chest...is key...
Having worked in Public Safety for now 25 years, with a concentration in Fire/EMS and 911 communications, I can tell you if I was the Citywide that day, one thing would have happened for sure..... A lot of disciplinary action and mandatory trainings for sure!
That woman is terrible my god!!!
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