Apple Beats Microsoft Again | Can They Come Back?
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- Microsoft's AI features recall has had a lot of complaints about privacy from users. A source who worked on the software says it's easily hacked with admin access and isn't as secure as Microsoft made it out to be. Apple just doubled down on privacy at WWDC, will Microsoft figure out a better form of security?
Microsoft’s problem here is precisely Apple’s strength. Apple’s software and hardware integration allows for layers of encryption that simply aren’t possible for a company like Microsoft (or Google, for that matter) to implement. At least not without harming their existing business structures.
Microsoft killing their smart phone over and over and over again because of mismanagement is coming back to haunt them here! Don't forget Microsoft even bought Nokia's technology and flushed it down the toiled and even laid off 26,000 of the Nokia people that moved over to Microsoft! Microsoft also wrote down the purchase of Nokia as a 7 Billion dollar loss!
they have their chips out now,
Been that way for decades.
Apple fanboys are so funny... Apple strength? Do you know Apple AI is in fact ChatGPT? Apple where unable to develop its own AI. Microsoft put 10B$ on OpenAI for its Copilot (ChatGPT also) and been integrating it to all of MS products... i'm sorry dude, Microsoft is far ahead of Apple on this
@@TheJoseUrena relax bro.
This just speaks volumes about Apple and Microsoft’s user security! - I kind of agree.. it really shows the attitudes of each company.. -
I recently built a 13th gen I5 computer with 3060 video card and 64 gb of memory. After hearing about ai recall and the coming encryption with 24H2 I literally threw my computer into the dumpstar and went and purchased a mac studio max m2 system. I am a lot happier now and I am finished with microsoft windows forever. This is from an individual in his 70's who used windows since 3.51
Literally?! Donate it to someone who wants to run Linux
@@nuvotion-live It was a principle statement to microsoft.
@@DonaldFournier-h2v that’s dumb what a waste. That hardware has nothing to do with MS
@@DonaldFournier-h2vhow exactly? You already got windows. You screwed over the makers of the hardware. Send it back for a refund
Saying "a little different kinda vibe" referring to Apple and Google's fundamentally opposing views on user privacy is criminal. There is nothing 'little' or 'kinda' about two complete opposites. One company protects user data at all costs, and the other exploits users information quite literally at ALL COSTS! We need Rene Ritchie back to increase the quality and clarity of Apple news, and to empower and educate other tech TH-camrs to a level that is at least acceptable. Rene was the best. This falls short.
Recall seems too unstable and creepy. It will screenshot the passwords you’re typing. The bank accounts you’re putting in. If it was hacked it’s pretty much an open book.
Considering Apples relationship with China and Chinese legal requirements regarding access to Customer Data, just how can we trst anything Apple says regarding security of customer Data?
Apple’s relationship with OpenAI is less a partnership than a licensing agreement. They’re basically just paying for a service that OpenAI provides, quite deliberately keeping them at arms length.
Put another way, Apple is Costco; OpenAI is, like, Coca-Cola. A product vendor, nothing more.
They aren’t paying anything. They made a deal for the exposure.
There was a report stating the neither company is making money off the other. The agreement was based around OpenAI getting more exposure by being on Apple devices. Kind of makes since. Android has google and all of there AI models and assistant. OpenAI would be drowned out by all that noise on Android platform. So being apart of Apple and Siri would expose there models to hundreds of millions of mobile devices.
@@mic91rog interesting. I’m actually kind of surprised by that. Apple stands to gain far more here.
@@shapeofsoup I actually believe OpenAI will gain a lot more. With the amount of time we spend on our mobile devices, ChatGPT will gain a lot of data to feed there models. Mind you, all of user data will be encrypted, so a user profile won’t be created around that data. But just the fact the ChatGPT will used more is a massive win for OpenAI.
Plus, ChatGPT will just be used for inquiries if Siri can’t process the request in device or its servers. So it’s kind of a last resort.
@@mic91rog you make a good point. I think the potential for OpenAI is there. I’m just a bit skeptical about their implementation and roadmap management.
"All the info is in a folder", microsoft says it will be encripted in the release, but this is an Apple orientaded podcast, so it's more selling if you just omit that other info
Time to switch to LINUX!
Any good distros for newcomers?
Linux Mint is a great all-purpose distro. I've been a linux nerd since 2002. I use it on my desktop computer. I only just bought my first Mac this week. MBA 13" M3. I love it but am returning it for the 16 GB version. It definitely needs it.
At Microsoft neither the customer nor their data is how they make money, Microsoft is a platform company they sell the platform, the most straight forward business model.
Just OUTSTANDING.... send this to all your family .... Apple needs to call Elon and have him give Apple the names of the absolute world class security intruders and have them test Apple security.
I switched to Linux since this was announced. Never used it before in my life. Totally worth it. Open suse with kde plasma desktop environment is super easy to use. My only issues have been hardware related so far
I haven’t watched the video yet but Microsoft is miles ahead of Apple. Microsoft is fully embracing AI in all of its products and is becoming the defacto standard for businesses. Apple is playing a cute consumer game with outdated models. Microsoft is leading and Apple is following.
I agree the recall feature was not well thought out and will rarely be useful and will be disabled by most business which means Microsoft is out of touch on this but they have many other game changing things. If people don’t have their two dozens copilot products that are paid, you can’t really comment effectively.
Until they’re not. . . . .
You say that cause you haven’t watched the vid yet
If Apple was behind why is Microsoft stumbling to catch up with security?
Since I will always so "no" to the ChatGPT feature, can I set "no" as the automatic answer? Or do I have to say "no" every single time? That would get annoying.
I think it’s only when Apple intelligence can’t help you
I’m fully supportive of you and your preference and think this is an option just like I wish I could default it to always say yes.
@@e.p.3900 That's correct! And I still want my answer to always be "no" so I don't see any of those prompts. I'm sure you understand.
On a Mac, I think I know enough programming to write a script to automatically press either No or Yes, but on iOS, I can't do that.
Ask simple questions . . . . 😎
1:00 I want that Recall feature on my AiOS 18. How can individuals make our iDevices do this on our own? Maybe an app that Siri and AiOS can search.
None of you have used either the MSFT product or the Apple product but you are trying to compare the two?
One thing that may not be known as Microsoft doesn’t proclaim it as Apple does, they have a fully protected option similar to Apple that businesses can sign up for. Yes, I know businesses aren’t consumers but it is a start. Consumers data is private. Business have trade secrets to protect and Microsoft has an option for that. Apple does not.
You worked for the NSA, in what role?
By low level I think he was referring to the people who calling people into installing TeamViewer on their computers
Apple Intelligence, super smart move in so many ways and
on so many levels from Apple.
Super Siri has my confidence.
Rewind/limitless is essentially the same thing as recall that’s been working for a while
All Future talking about future. Today topic is very appropriate.
How to say you are bought and sold by apple? be like these guys
From my understanding you need to use your passcode or windows hello to access the recall task. People using AI that they are giving access to all their info that allows them to perform these task. Apple partnering with Open AI and may partner with Google with Gemini to handle complex task. It's more of a perception people have. Apple shouldn't get a pass. They have all been hacked. Google search business is separate from their other businesses.
Besides my PS5 I do everything else within Apple
Microsoft is lacking vision and plays catch up for a while now. Office ans Xbox are what’s keeping them in the game. And for office, it’s only because they have a monopoly in business
🤣 the low level criminals wording was to emphasise how easy to is, as the screenshot database is just a text database - it lowers the bar considerably.
Apple always plays the long game
Music was louder than the microphone. You guys need an audio engineer.
Headphones…
@@georgeb3920 or edit better?
@@cim8097 While wearing headphones 😁
Why is Elon musk quite right now 😂no tweet
Anything that enrages Elon Musk is good to me 👍
Beat !? Maybe in the future 😂 Suck ! Better for Apple presentation
Elon dude is out of his gourd. Seething petty hatred.
Hardly petty when he is a founding member, injected his own cash into the company on the understanding of a fundamental business model, and it all changes.
@@tonyhawk123 He's generally authentic but still a shrewd business man and there are texts bw him and Altman about turning it into a profit when they got close to implementation and become less Open. I think the read deal is Elon doesn't trust Altman and doesn't want him to win this. The money donated is absolutely pocket change to any of them. The unhinged seething, I doubt comes from a few million invested and a business model change. It's personal. Or its jealousy.
Most users aren’t tech savvy enough to understand the security and privacy implications of forwarding prompts to OpenAI. Elon is right. OpenAI’s own employees can see everyone’s prompts and responses, and OpenAI trains their LLM using users’ prompt data.
Microsoft Copilot (for enterprise) hands off requests to OpenAI as well, but at least Microsoft designed it such that no human can view the prompts and no one is allowed to train their LLM models using users’ data.
Apple failed to engineer the same protections in their OpenAI handoffs.
But Apple also don't use the OpenAI frequently.. for them it's just the backup of the backup.. they use their own smaller model first on device, after that they use their own large model on the sever, and if still no result, they ask you to want to send the data to ask OpenAI?
You clearly didn’t see the announcement from Apple
@@shavar67 That’s not a counterargument. What did I say that’s technically inaccurate? Cite your source and be specific. I’ll wait.
@@TamasKiss-yk4st It depends on how you use Siri. The criticism people are lodging is the fact that Apple and OpenAI didn’t implement any privacy or security controls for those instances where they forward prompts to OpenAI (Microsoft did…for Copilot for enterprise). The only control Apple mentioned is that they hide your IP address. That’s incredibly weak. But yeah, the non-Apple AI prompts appear to be better protected (though the devil is in the details and details weren’t thoroughly discussed at WWDC).
George this one for u.
Apple intelligence works on device with no integration of chatgpt.
When the queries r daunting Apple intelligence prompts every single time, every time you are in control whether to allow it or not.
If u allow the queries r sent to apple data centers which r working on apple M2 ultra chips where apple doesn't store, even administrative control team cannot have access to your queries or personal info because apple is using a new method called private cloud computing for only chatgpt not for apple intelligence got it.
One more thing only your query is sent into the cloud after your query has completed its task the cloud will delete the query.
If u still have any questions regarding this let me know.
A few days ago I actually had a situation where I wished I had that feature.