How Do You Feel About People Getting An Honorary Degree?
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Charlamagne is feeling upset because he has an honorary degree but didn't attend school. Jess and Envy are just sharing a perspective. Charlamagne needs to get out his feelings. 💯💯💯
He’s such a babyyyyyyy like damn
That exactly what's going on! He kept using the word 'deserve' as if he dousnt deserve his recognition when it's about distinguishing the difference.
Yea it’s personal I love envy standing on business
It’s an honorary degree it’s self explanatory CTG ain’t tweaking
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It should be called something different. That's all. Not taking away any accomplishment. A 'degree' for those who've completed college, 'honorary recognition' for those contributing in their field.
I actually agree with this!
Should an electrician get a 'degree' after working in their field for so long with their certification in their trade?
Perfectly said, I said something similar in another discussion!
This!! "Honorary recognition".
@@geraldjennings3188if your Benjamin Franklin or black mad who created electricity
Don’t call it a degree. Call it something else. Period.
That man Charlemagne gonna protect his honorary degree with his life 😂
Its a disgrace for people that put in the hard work for decades. Its a total slap in the face!
It’s not disgrace if wasn’t for CTG paying for some students graduation. They deserve honary degree
@@houseofmatrix6174 Dude, so you know how to read? This has NOTHING to do with what your wrote... SMH!
@@nitmare64 i Guess you didn’t my comment
It may be but why hold on to hate towards those that received it? Why not go at it with the people who pass them out?!?
I’m on envy side you didn’t go to school so you can’t have a degree. You can’t be a lawyer without your law degree period
It's possible to bypass it in California
So do you think the key to the city unlock every door in the city
Mike Ross was a lawyer without a law degree.
PhD over here, Honorary degrees PISS me off. I worked hard for my Undergraduate, Masters and PhD including research. The people that get the honorary degrees are the loudest calling themselves Dr’s 🙄
DITTO!! There's so much work that goes into obtaining that PhD and/or a Master's degree. When I see all of these celebrities and philanthropists getting them for giving money pisses me off.
but why get mad when they have no impact on your career?
They probably do it JUST to get under the skin of people like you lol. Just be happy with your accomplishments. Doesn't make anyone else's any more or less. It's YOURS. YOU sleep well at night because of your degree... Right?
@@bellaandjax96 Thats a silly question. Probably for the same reasons people get upset with individuals for being gay or for having abortions: they don't agree with it. Simple enough.
Yes it’s very insulting to people who put in the work
Hey yall....I think give a prestigious award. Just not a degree.
Right! A prestigious award!
Agree
But if they’re more successful than ppl who graduated but they don’t deserve degree
I agree Bachelors Degree here and it was difficult
Just start an honorary gold sticker award for people like Charla.
A degree means years of work, effort and accomplishment. It shouldn't be called that. It should be called a certificate.
But then folks like Charlemagne cannot be called "Dr." ad that's the rub. If they donate hundreds of thousands/millions of dollars to an institution, they want that DR tag added on!
I don’t care how hard you work in your field. 8-16 hour days. Try writing a 25 page paper . Going to class and completing some of the hard tasks assigned to you are way harder than the repeated tasks people do for a certain amount of hours at a job.
The belittling of degrees is insane and it mostly comes from people who wouldn’t cut it at a 4 year university .
People love disparaging education till they need a Doctor or Lawyer🤣🤣🤣🤣
Chalemagay the only one mad 😂 and it’s clear as day from him yelling 🤣
I think it’s insulting to people who actually put in the work with hours of study, practicals and coursework. Please call it something else.
Absolutely! It diminishes people’s had work, sacrifices and dedication.
Leonard in his feelings… this isn’t about you sir
lol Char saying “why y’all mad?” Shows he lost the debate
Cause he has one, he salty
Veins popping out his neck and forehead 🤪
Charlemagne got a hell of an ego to think he deserves a degree after Bill mahr had him looking like Radio.
The issue is some people have a humble response when getting it…what made people upset is that you have some who are given the recognition demanding to be called “Doctor”. Jobs, Gates, etc aren’t requesting people call them doctor.
It's the black people demanding you to call them doctor. Let's be honest.
this is exactly what the issue is
Didn't they cover this subject like 5 days ago? Slow news day 😂
I think they on vacation so they’re probably going to be doing re-uploads while they’re gone
@@Missanthrope417 ahh summer vacation for them? Must be nice
They always take the week off for major holidays. They didn’t upload this the day they had the convo. They just put it up today. Just like they added some interviews from over the week. Gotta keep the channel engagement up while they’re out.
@@thaddperkins I remember watching this the other day but the holiday makes sense
Just call it something else cause the entitlement and “call me Dr.” is getting out of hand. I’m currently getting my doctorate and this shit ain’t easy. Stop calling it degree. It’s also another way for schools to market by giving these celebs “degrees”.
CTG is the only one that mad lol. He is missing the whole point.I don't think he understand how college works, and the different degrees. Like not understanding the differnce between bachelors and doctorates😂
Just ask someone who has a honorary degree a hard question about that field and enjoy the comedy 😂
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That's like me getting a championship ring. It takes away the accomplishment from the people who actually put in the effort
But everyone gets a championship ring I was told. Not just the players.
Charlamane how about giving your black ancestors more props than Steve Jobs and Gates. Please dude do your homework.
Did you know that even the water boy gets a championship ring? He may not have contributed on the court but he was an integral part of the accomplishment. That’s the point Charla is trying to make
Horrible example. But to your point if I am contributing to the funding of the ring, dedicating time to training you and others to get the ring, why not be honored in that way.
By your logic nba players who dropout high don’t deserve to play NBA
CTG, keeps talking about Jess and Envy being angry....does he have any more vacation time?
It's not the same. If you didn't put in the work you shouldn't receive the reward
If an honorary degree is just an acknowledgment, why aren't there more regular ppl with them and less celebrities? What are the credential requirements? Alot of these degrees are awarded for more service than smarts. That opens up alot of other questions. Do the military get honorary degrees, most do a helluva lot more service than philanthropy and only get a neck full of medals. Just a thought
Military vet here and I can say sometimes you don't get shit but a pat on the back lol.. it's all good though.
@sirrmanning2769 the way this country treats vets is deplorable. It's unbelievable how they praise the name/title (veteran) and not the person. We appreciate and honor you even if those in positions of power don't, thank you for serving us 🫡 💯.
CTA, let this go, you’re not winning this one. An Honorary Doctorate, then throwing it in your fans faces, is indeed a slap in the face to people who studies, financed and stressed about their futures.
What we not gonna do is compare Sheree and Pretty Vee to Bill Gates. Lol
It could be called an honorary award for your incredible accomplishments. You don't have to call it a degree.
Charlemagne slept his way to the top🤣😂quote of the year from Envy
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😂😂😂 Those degrees don't mean anything
People are too caught up in the terminology vrs what it really is. It's the institution that chooses the adjective "honorary." It's not like the person being honored chose to call themselves that. It takes nothing from anyone who earned and / or paid for. Be mad at the school, and not the person being honored!
Thank you!
Bill nor Steve even knew how to code. They employed coders. Lmao @ charla
In a world where ignorance, drama and sex is considered entertainment and sells itself, anybody could be in your position if they are willing to take a risk and put themselves out there. It’s different to study and learn the mechanics of whatever field you’re interested in and to speak about your industry from a knowledgeable place. It’s the difference in being successful in front of or behind the camera. All of you have educated people that help you behind the scenes.
Great response. You are right!
I see it as accelerated studying when one chooses not to go to college and/or unable to. It's by far not always easy to be successful without a degree. Then again, you can be unsuccessful with a degree.
But I digress. Celebrities who receive these honors after years of demonstating success in their field(s) should be recognized if a college chooses to do so. I mean, why not? These universities/colleges use some of these celebrities as examples in their curriculums all the time such as Prince, Michael Jackson, Elton John, Dr. Dre, etc. What these people I mentioned have in common? Never went to college, and yet they are used constantly as examples when it comes to their artistry. Same with business moguls and so on.
The reality is, there wasn't a school many moons ago when people learned music, art, science, the list goes on. People had to just rest on their talent, hustle, and drive.
And I am by no means saying people shouldn't go to school. If you can afford it and it's what you want, go for it. That degree, especially if your family is one who doesn't have any or you don't have a family, is still a great achievement.
Charlemagne doesn’t listen to other’s perspectives. He always thinks he’s right.
Both perspectives have valid points
@@houseofmatrix6174I agree.
@@kiaram15 facts
I just said I dropped out. Ion deserve a degree? 😂😂😂😂 Good comeback Jess😂😂😂
Ray J havin 1 just helped Envy n Jess case 😅
Every time I hear people touting about how proud they are of their degrees I just think back to "School Spirit" skits on Kanye's College Dropout album. If you have your degree, just be happy with knowing you have YOUR degree. It's not anyone else's and their degree... Or "degree" isn't yours. Like.. Why do you get the degree in the first place? For clout and recognition or to get where you're going? 😂
Being given a honorary degree is like the migrants coming into America and receiving all the benefits. All those who put in the work and time and effort to earn those benefits are upset. Charla said he didn’t think migrants deserved the benefits before. So why does donating money deserve and entitle you to a degree?
You go to school to get a degree that says that you have knowledge of a field that would otherwise be difficult to obtain without experience. The degree potentially opens doors to the related career. Honorary degrees are symbolic awards recognizing the achievements of those who achieved success in fields without having taken the traditional path (college) to acquire the knowledge needed for the career path. It says that you've acquired the requisite knowledge and achieved the success expected of someone who would have completed a degree associated with the field and henceforth pursued a successful career in the field! Charla is on point.
3:35 yo Jess face after CTG said NO made me feel bad for her lol
CTG was mad..u kno sum1 mad wen they sayn sum1 else is mad lol.. Glad Jess n Envy stood they ground
Charla you are at the top of your field for gossip and you are only the top at radio which is dying people like Kai and dj akademiks have surpassed you as far as a audience. A honorary degree is a insult to anybody that actually works years for a degree in their field. Charla is sensitive because his award is from his hometown college that he gives money to. Its basically an acknowledgement he paid to have
Add Mr. Bill Cosby and thousands of white people into the mix.. it is what it is.
Just donated a large sum of money to a college and get a honorary degree. Paying for it and earning it is not the same.
You can tell Charlemagne deep down inside wish he had a degree. Look how he got so sensitive about the topic. That is something that bothers him. Envy is right a college degree is more than a successful degree. It teaches you life lessons. Yes you can learn life lessons without a degree but it teaches you different. Having your degree does not make your better. He made a slick comment about student loans
You can tell when Charlamagne is triggered by something. He starts yelling on the mic and finds every way possible to pick on someone else in the room.
Ayeoo pause the whole ending lol 😂😂😂
This comparison to Steve Jobs is insane
I agree👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. College is hard and beyond challenging! All the sleepless nights, money and time..come on now.. I have 2 and will start on a third next week...so, I know about putting in that work!🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
Man. Sometimes I get sooo much heat for never going to college (but only from college grads). I'm a senior software engineer and have only worked in Bay Area companies, so the competition always makes me a lil quiet about it. I didn't know what to go to school for and "computer science" wasnt talked about in my hood. Anyway, salute to everyone who have attempted college and especially to those who graduated.
Umm last week news?
As someone who has been a teacher/educator for 24 years, it's fine if someone is awarded an honorary degree by a college. However, I won't respect it because the degree wasn't earned. Also, many teachers/professors/educators don't respect an honorary degree because of the time we put in to get our Master's or our Doctorate. For those who have an honorary degree, don't flaunt it because if you do, those who actually earned their degree will shut you down quickly.
Now why waste time coming at those who flaunt it? Is it gonna take away from what they have? Y’all love to billy people on what they can and can not do! Let these people live it ain’t hurting you or no one else.
Charlamagne hating lol. Clowning Envy for going to school 😂😂😂. Definitely sat at the slow table at lunch.
I think people are in their feelings too much about the wording of “degree”. It’s essentially an achievement award. No one can get a job over you just because they have an honorary degree.
I agree, It should not be called a degree. It's a reward.
It needs to be called something else. To call it the highest level of achievement and give it to someone who didn’t earn it. It takes 10+ years to receive a doctorate. It’s a slap in the face for those of us that warn them the real way .
I caught that "You slept your way to the top."
I agree with Envy. As a Nurse Practitioner student, it’s disheartening to see how easily these honorary degrees are just gifted while real students have to work 10x harder for their titles.
Ppl go through ALOT when they are in college to get a degree and for someone who did nothing academically gets one does make u feel away. Colleges can still show appreciation but I feel that they should just call it something else.
I’m in medical school becoming a doctor and I don’t really care about these degrees lol. They are a way to tell someone who gives back to those schools and communities, thanks. So Yh, I’m not threatened haha
When I get my Honorary degree - Doctorate. Called me Dr. I paid for my bachelor's degree and Masters Degree through student loans. I want to street credit and industry credit over coursework.
I think honorary makes sense for someone who has mastered something that is actually taught at a school. Like for instance Mark Zuckerberg got an honorary from Harvard, but I am sure no one at Havard can teach him about coding. Cthagod got one but a teacher can’t teach him about communication. So I think it make sense for people who have mastered their craft outside of the classroom.
he can learn alot about communications... just because he's syndicated doesn't mean he knows everything... have you seen the episodes of any of his shows when it's just him and nobody to make fun of? This claim to popularity is making fun and making a fool of people like we used to do in the hood and people relate to that... when envy isn't there or taylor or wax isn't there on brilliant idiot he doesn't know what to do or say talks about dicks for 45 mins...
Yes I agree call it something else
I’m not necessarily against it but they give them out to everyone with a name. I like Pretty Vee but in what way does she deserve Dr. in front of her name? 💀 Ray J???? Like cmon 😭
Depending on the occupation, most people would likely prefer to learn from the person with the honorary degree over the person with the real degree. Experience is typically the best teacher.
As someone who is working on their PhD, I honestly never seen a problem with it or it being called a "degree"(this just me). Now I'm not going to lie there are some "academics" out there that hates it and looks at it like Dj Envy. I agree with charla, its not that serious.
Shoutout CCBC 😂 I was probably there the same time as Jess bc we the same age 😂 Essex campus
Thought we talked about this last week
Charlemagne shows why Honorary Degrees are disrespectful to REAL graduates! He couldn't have an educated conversation on this matter.
Jess, you want to Community College of Baltimore COUNTY. There is a city and county community college. Jess also paid out of county tuition unless she changed her residence from the city to the county.
Should definitely be called something else.
Charlemagne hates to be callled out out anything and gets defensive .
Y'all not on B.e.t. nomo ? 😢
As someone who actually went to college and had to pay off my loans absolutely not I don’t agree with giving people degrees just because.
You get people like Terrence Howard who uses his honory degree as proof his insane nonsense is real.
It's not like people with honorary degrees can do anything with them, right? It doesn't bother me. I don't see what the big deal is 🤷🏽♀️
exactly people acting like people with honorary degrees are taking all the jobs lol
Tell that to the actual college students that's barely making it for this college
Another day where people wanna have a reason to be upset about something.
I agree with both. As a person with 3 degrees…I don’t think it’s that deep. But if it makes ppl feel better call it a certificate of recognition. I think my beef is some of them walking around calling themselves Dr. lol it’s honorary you don’t get the title of doctor from an honorary degree. Plus it’s being handed out a lil too loosely these days. Any old influencer is getting them. I think Charlemagne is very deserving of his when you hear his full story but these ppl who just at the start of their careers who have made little contributions….yeah idk. Either way it don’t affect those of us with degrees cuz it’s not like they’re competing in the job search with those honorary degrees. We in 2 diff lanes
Well said.. with no hate.
Charlamagne is absolutely right about this topic. It seems that Jess & Envy's real issue is simply with theb word degree. When you put in work, you put in work, period. No matter how you did it, you did it. Nothing wrong with that recognition. 💯
i guessing theres no bfc this week
This is wild haha
Envy that was crazy‼️
It’s fine to me.. Same as when a job asks for college degree or equivalent work experience..
As a Master’s degree holder, who cares? I got the degree for myself and my life and it paid off based on my career. Giving people honorary degrees doesn’t change anything because it still doesn’t allow them to compete with me in the job market so it has no negative effect on me.
Thank you!
4:55 😭
Morning everyone!!
Lol... Uncle Joe?!😂😂
I agree with Charla. Everyone working on acquiring a degree are attempting to achieve the expertise and knowledge the honorary degree recipients have achieved. The honorary degrees given to most, not all, are given to those who are already great in a profession.
Who is" pretty "vee& y is she considered a "celebrity"??what is her position/job/meaning/purpose??
Pause Envy 😂😂😂
22:37… crazy/wild 🥴
I am a college grad who sees and understands both sides of the argument.
There is a value to a degree but most ppl don't understand how society works. The issue is there are only but so many ideal jobs and I know alot of communications grads who believe they deserve the "spotlight" more than a "Charlemagne". I will admit I am even annoyed when he chooses the "entertaining personality" route oppose to the truth, info, and proper analysis route. I believe I speak for a lot of his critics by saying referring to the truth not being important cause a lie is more entertaining.
That being said the way him, Schultz, Alex, and Chris broke down the conflicts in Israel/palestine/middle east when things hit the fan on the Brilliant Idiots podcast deserves pulitzer prize recognition... no other podcast or news entity has even came come to the analysis they did and I believe it helped put alot in context for alot of ppl... peace, love, and light
Damn yooooo 😂😂
Facts call it a honorary recognition
Vacation?!
8:13 right th..
MORNING EVERYBODY ❤❤❤
Did they just drop this video again 2 days later🤨
23:34 😂😂😂