She's not South African, Thuli Madonsela you cannot silence us because you are who we are, she's not South African, EFF has lost the votes because of their foreign nationals policy and they must just shut up.
Amazing how the father is addressing the media, yet the south African mom is quiet. Speaks volumes. Kindly research why the UK and others put visa restrictions on SA.
This thing is very sensitive in a manner which needs our attention as concerned South Africans which have been taken over by foreign nationals honestly speaking in all front.... small business, sport, religion,squatter camps... everything has been taken over now beauty contests must allow a blood of foreign origin....sad guy's 😢😢😢😢
Having come in 2010 yet she was born before then... There's no name of the parent or the child he is talking about or proof that that's an authentic phone call, or date and time it was made or to whom it was made or who released the recording under whose authority or even faces of the people in that conversation... Then we are supposed to take that as evidence? Hard convincing evidence... 😂🤣😂🤣
Her and Somizi they know what they know in regards Foreigners,,Somizi yena disapointed me he was there when we fought apartheid government and having imidlwembe that were pushing us back..even now wbo Lerato are those who pushing us back when we saving our sovereignity
@@berengsello5645 No, she's a celebrity, they get paid to promote and endorse certain things. Look at how suddenly celebrities are coming out, when they realize that SA is not letting this go. These are the very people who'll promote Huawei, but use an iPhone. So they are paid. I wish SAns would read up on Malcom X and what he said about how celebrities and sports nonsense are used.
@@busimasango415 No such thing.Even in Mozambique she will never be regarded as a Mozambiquen.These Nigerians are here to bully us and badly we will never surrender.
@@Tdog-q2z because like I said she gets onto every bus to the point of disrespect she's no watchdog now when she was she didn't do her job to the benefit of black upstart companies insofar as the tenders were concerned Then she had something to say whilst phala phala was being probed instead of respecting those judges enough before passing comments She had no respect for her successor just like the new pp but expects respect from others
@@Tdog-q2z there's so many asylumites refugees in the country but every Dec holidays they go home for vacation and it's been happening while madonsela was in office now she wants to get herself involved in the miss nigey/rsa story Just leave the people who are responsible to do their job She's not helping really she wants to be seen again
@@Tdog-q2zDoes she not want to explain why her daughter was born after 2010 but is 23 years old? This girl is a modern day "baby Jesus i.e miracle birth!
SABC is dodgy if at this point they have not tried to reach out for the mother to clarify the child's case. Is she still alive, or still in SA? Why is her child suffering alone like this? If SABC was able to trace Thabo Bester's mom, why are they not doing the same here?🤔
The father just messed up everything for her by saying in 2010 we didn't have kids. I really support black Africans but the father seems to be contradicting himself
Is that even the father to start off with? Having come in 2010 yet she was born before then... There's no name of the parent or the child he is talking about or proof that that's an authentic phone call, or date and time it was made or to whom it was made or who released the recording under whose authority or even faces of the people in that conversation... Then we are supposed to take that as evidence? Hard convincing evidence... 😂🤣😂🤣
This organisers are desperate, all lies according to the father it is clear. I like Thuli but all what transpired here has nothing to do with harassment but the truth. She can stay in SA forever but the truth remains that she is Nigerian
Sometime it does mean if you are a public figure or so called celebrity you want to speak of things you know nothing about and want to present them as facts.
Being a legal South African by birth and being a South African both by birth AND by culture are 2 entirely different things. Why is that so difficult to understand?
Home affairs is very strict to S. Africans, demanding them to bring 1st year school reports when applying for ids. I literally saw an old lady who was ordered to go get a school report to apply for her son's id. Funny, things are very easy when it comes to foreign nationals. They are handled with soft gloves and allowed to get away with fraudulent documents. What a shame 😢😢😢
There is a larger issue here that everyone seems to be ignoring and South Africans are not really saying, maybe because they just don't know how to. Personally, as a South African, I don't have any issues with the half Nigerian lady representing South Africa, especially if she loves the country and she is a legal citizen. That is my personal view. At the same time, I think it is disingenuous to paint South Africans as xenophobic. South Africa is full of immigrants from all across the African continent. Some of them have been in the country for many years and have become quite successful, often at the expense of South Africans. The question is if South Africans are so xenophobic, why would all of these foreign nationals even be in the country in the first place? The larger issue that everyone seems to be ignoring is the rivalry between South Africa and Nigeria. That definitely is the biggest factor, and it seems to be quite bitter. It also goes much deeper than I actually realized. I don't think that Chidimma would have been responded to that way if one of her parents were from any other African nation instead of Nigeria. It's not that South Africans are necessarily xenophobic, as much as it is the fact that the rivalry between the 2 countries is deep. Consider how Nigerians responded toward Tyla when she won the Grammy award. All over the internet she was called all kinds of derogatory names while her Africaness was denied. Some even said that the whole of Africa should boycott the Grammies for giving the award to Tyla instead of to a Nigerian. Consider the continued hate they spew out toward Tyla every time she makes a move. Read the hateful comments from Nigerians every time she just randomly posts something on her social media accounts. These things create resentment in the hearts of South Africans who love Tyla so much that they would gladly go to war over her. Hardly a day ever goes by when Nigerians are not declaring their country as the "giant of Africa." South Africans don't actually care about being known as the giant of Africa. Because of this rivalry the attitude of South Africans only seems to be that Nigeria can have that title as long as they stay with it over there in West Africa, as far away from them as possible. Consider how South Africans would feel if Chidimma wins and becomes miss SA today, and Nigerians claim her tomorrow. Would that not make an already bitter rivalry much worse?
She doesn't love South Africa, it is just a ticket for her to better life.If she loves SA, she would not have hoisted Nigerian and Mozambican flag on her tiktok account. She is not Sout African
I partially agree you with the hate some of us harbour over Nigerians but disagree with your reasons for this bcs some of us developed hate bcs of what they are doing to the future of this country by turning the next generation into drug addicts & prostitutes & they are not even hidding their activities bcs they are untouchable to our law enforcement agencies.
Let me clarify this, SAns aren't pestering no one. You don't see them going to Nigeria and feeding the Nigerian kids drugs. You don't see SAns in Nigeria involved in illegal deals. You don't see SAns going to Nigeria involving the Nigerian kids into prostitution. You don't see SAns claiming ownership on Afrobeat or the Nollywood, I can go on and on and on..... In this case no SAn went to Nigeria and lied about their nationality so that they can benefit from Nigeria. Nigerians are the ones who are doing very hurting things towards SAns. Mina on my own, I loathe them, especially those that are destroying our youth's future. Lives are destroyed by these evil people, families are bleeding, communities are messed up. I'm aware how much other Africans believed all the nonsense said about SAns being xenophobic. My question is, SAns have always had immigrants from Africa, some have arrived during apartheid and were never mistreated, they are now citizens. Even now we don't have a problem with those who come to our country legally, but we will not tolerate ill-treatment of being silenced and disrespected for raising our concerns.
I am South African but British too and it would be discriminatory if my children were not allowed to participate fully in Britain! Wake up people live yourselves more then you will not be petty about nothingness
THERES NOTHING WRONG FOR INVESTIGATING THE MATTER SND BE TRANSPARENT WE HAVE MOST BEAUTIFUL MISS SOUTH AFRICANS HERE EACH COUNTRY HAVE THERE BEAUTIES YOUR LIGHT FELL ON EVERY THING THAT HAPPENED IN OUR COUNTRY SHE IS. MIXED. SOUTH AFRICAN WE NEED PURE SOUTH A
She is Nigerian by birth, just to accept that. She is acquired SA not by birth. It means she can also represent Nigeria, the father explained everything and you all disagree with them
Having come in 2010 yet she was born before then... There's no name of the parent or the child he is talking about or proof that that's an authentic phone call, or date and time it was made or to whom it was made or who released the recording under whose authority or even faces of the people in that conversation... Then we are supposed to take that as evidence? Hard convincing evidence... 😂🤣😂🤣
@@nelzg5819haibo ugogo wakho kade afika la wafunda la besuka e Germany coz Hitler webulala akabanga miss South Africa njengalona wako Nigeria ethi ungiwalapha 😢
Ndoda mhlongo maybe you want her right ✅️ congrats 👏 according to my knowledge we South African we don't overcrowded people in their countrys, and those countrys they will never allow us to.
Only Home Affairs will know what her nationality is. There's no attack on any black woman. If she is born in South Africa, then she's South African otherwise no!
Don't make contributions if you're not informed. In SA and in Nigeria, being born in those countries doesn't make you automatically a citizen of those countries. Go read slima if you don't know izinto. Shuuuuuuush nje wena, uhlale kwi lane yakho, ungazophapha LA.
Thank you Mandotsela and the Eff for enlightening us on this citizenship issue. At least you saved the home affairs ministry some face as they're still scrutinizing the citizenship act....
I genuinely think PA is Patriotic .Let every possible stone be turned .Whatever is called " proper documents is it really proper " in the light of rampant corruption at Home Affairs .Please let us all be careful but now that this matter is in public Whatever the reason however it came about let the whole matter be exhausted by " trustworthy individuals, political parties etc let PA go and do all the digging beyond outcomes of the Competition Please PA do more digging a lot will come out you will be seen to be Truly Patriotic .Unfortunately at the moment you are being insulted .Go digging PA is genuinely Patriotic
We have no intentions of going to loot and scam anyone. Even during apartheid the exiles were not even making 10% of our SAn population. When they were in exile they had no intention of staying there forever. In actual fact, when they skipped the country they believed that they were just going to get training and will be back to operate in the country. Even now, with all our challenges in our country we are prepared and committed in fixing our challenges. We have no other home except Mzansi.
Having come in 2010 yet she was born before then... There's no name of the parent or the child he is talking about or proof that that's an authentic phone call, or date and time it was made or to whom it was made or who released the recording under whose authority or even faces of the people in that conversation... Then we are supposed to take that as evidence? Hard convincing evidence... 😂🤣😂🤣
@@Dr_Du-Littlewena uyisthuphethu. Where are the girls? When are you getting back the girls????? Sies! You're busy fighting for your fraudster reject to be recognized as a SAn beauty queen, why isn't she competing in Nigeria, because you all know she wouldn't qualify because she is I 2nd hand yeReject. Namathanga ashwabene. Nxaaaaa.
I am a bit confused here. Either the father doesn't know what he is saying or I am not the one understanding. The girl was born in soweto, and it was said that she's 23 years old. What am I really listening to here ??
I was against the attack on her nationality until the father said in 2010 was the first time coming to SA with the mother and they ddnt have kids😮 where was she born?if was born in UK she should have taken their citizenship.if the mother was not married than she can be South African.lot need to be explained crz
Having come in 2010 yet she was born before then... There's no name of the parent or the child he is talking about or proof that that's an authentic phone call, or date and time it was made or to whom it was made or who released the recording under whose authority or even faces of the people in that conversation... Then we are supposed to take that as evidence? Hard convincing evidence... 😂🤣😂🤣
You were Against the attack of her nationality, why?????? This thing of SAns like you who are quick to see fault on SAns who are voicing their dissatisfaction, whilst, accepting everything as correct that's said by non SAns as fact, without doing your own research. Do you even know what our laws say about citizenship, or the Nigerian law says about citizenship? I doubt. We are not crazy...... SAns are not crazy.
Who is Mackenzie's parents where are they from why he hates blacks so much I have never heard him attacks Chinese Portuguese Jews whites the way he is attacking blacks from Africa is questionable
@celebritymoila2276 there's a big difference when someone is part of a team sport than a singular competition. How is she going to fly our flag when she does not even see the need to carry it now. How does she go to Ms Universe, etc, and how will she represent SA. Where is this South African mother, we want to hear her story too. Asking for clarity does not make us hypocrites, we have a right to know who represent us, we have far too many beautiful ladies right here, who can represent us in our dance, songs, culture traditions etc. This, eish is deep, its about who we are as a people, not just a pretty face.
@@celebritymoila2276 Were you there when she was born? Father says he came to RSA in 2010 and did not have any children. If she was born in 2010, then she is 14 and not 23.
You met the mother in 2010 & the daughter is 23, please we are not fools let her represent nigeria in nigeria where she belongs simple, this doesn't serve S.A. after she got in top 11 she already celebriting in nigeria entlek who is she representing... this is not Miss S.A. Nigeria it's Miss S.A full stop don't mix the two
Is this girl 14 yrs old 2010 no kids they got married SA is free for all i know of people leaving wives and kids in other countries and starting familes here,same with women.this is whats going on especially among the blacks.How do you stop this? This why SA the numbers are growing and resources are depleted
The interviewer is promoting this 🚹, basically feeding info to the interviewee. She isn't South African, even this alleged father is a liar. Then he goes on to tell us that his children have *dual citizenship* status, according to him they're are both nigerian and South African... how so?
Where is the South African mother to defend her child? They came here from UK in 2010 13 years ago ...how come she's 23 years old? Born in Sowetho by who
@@dududugwala1059 Having come in 2010 yet she was born before then... There's no name of the parent or the child he is talking about or proof that that's an authentic phone call, or date and time it was made or to whom it was made or who released the recording under whose authority or even faces of the people in that conversation... Then we are supposed to take that as evidence? Hard convincing evidence... 😂🤣😂🤣
For a mere peagant like it holds weight as opposed to the positions white foreigners hold in deciding our economy and such. Thats black south africans for u. Not the smartest of the bunch . nope
The woman who was interviewing the nigerian man is lost and really uninteresting in her interviewing skills....her interviewing questions are weak and inconsistent and fragmented and she seems even unsure of what shes asking...exactly to such a crucial national topic about this beautiful girl birth country-why the lady was given a platform to ask these questions....truly speaking the interviewing lady is a mess...what shes doing in the media when shes speaks like 🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
The boers are from Europe. Chidima, the mother, is a South African, and the father is a Zimbabwean. There're boers representing South Africa in Paris right now. Just imagine these crazy nation !!!
If his father is Nigerian why a big deal she is a Nigerian àaaai she takes her fathers identity you cant say if your mother is Xhosa married to Sotho man you are not Sotho but Xhosa and please stop this xenophobic emotional blackmail SA are challeging issues this beautiful young lady is a Nigerian our African darling
@@molefimotsamai1640Broer this woman was born in JHB in 2001 according to the documents she submitted, but if you hear the father ,they came here in 2010 and they didn't have any kids , 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Niyayithanda xenophobic ningayazi ubaba kangane wavakasha eMzansi ngo 2010 nge World Cup when he met my South African wife wase zakwa nini ungane Uma nikhuluma nge Sinophobia why ningasho nalana e UK ukuthi I xenophobia lento eyenzakala la ??
The question now is if the father came with visitors visa from UK was this converted legally as what for him to be a south african. Which laws were also applied for his wife a mozambican to be a south african
Having come in 2010 yet she was born before then... There's no name of the parent or the child he is talking about or proof that that's an authentic phone call, or date and time it was made or to whom it was made or who released the recording under whose authority or even faces of the people in that conversation... Then we are supposed to take that as evidence? Hard convincing evidence... 😂🤣😂🤣
She's not South African, Thuli Madonsela you cannot silence us because you are who we are, she's not South African, EFF has lost the votes because of their foreign nationals policy and they must just shut up.
Amazing how the father is addressing the media, yet the south African mom is quiet. Speaks volumes. Kindly research why the UK and others put visa restrictions on SA.
@@Peachcobler22 The father just confirmed that his child is a Nigerian.
@@Gilbarco-o7i
How do we know that's her dad?
They came to SA from UK in 2010....how old is Miss South Africa kanthe..... he's saying when they arrive here they didn't have kids
@@lyma3880 My question too
@@lyma3880 Lies after lies. It cannot be. She is not 14 years of age.
Let her represent eff not me she's not my miss SA viva president McKenzie viva
Father Nigerin
Mother Mozambique
Where does South Africa come in.?????
Confused too you can ask again
All our ancestors came from north before the partitioning of Africa yet we are now proud in what was created in Berlin conference...
Salute My Minister.This my Warrior.Nigeria will never bully us.This is our country.Just Voetsek Lagos.
Mabahambe
Bangasabuyi ngoba wo Tsotsi ama Nigerians (drugs dealer's in their majority ) wododi babantu
Visitor's permit washada ngayo
Nigerians Kids Siyabonga indondo ayibuye
That's astepnmom the dadwanted papers screwed up😂😂🎉
@@ThembaCindi-yy7yo Nale step mom naso si fokofe
Confusing 🤞2010 and 23yrs i think home affairs must solve this X because maths is not mathing.
This thing is very sensitive in a manner which needs our attention as concerned South Africans which have been taken over by foreign nationals honestly speaking in all front.... small business, sport, religion,squatter camps... everything has been taken over now beauty contests must allow a blood of foreign origin....sad guy's 😢😢😢😢
Can you please name those foreign nationals you talking about Xolani I need to understand this just mention the main and but the few
A visitor became sa citizen when he came in visitor visa suddenly after he got married boom i am citizen wow banana republic
Having come in 2010 yet she was born before then...
There's no name of the parent or the child he is talking about or proof that that's an authentic phone call, or date and time it was made or to whom it was made or who released the recording under whose authority or even faces of the people in that conversation...
Then we are supposed to take that as evidence?
Hard convincing evidence...
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@@Dr_Du-Little wena o le mene, you are so hypocritical and mxm
Blame it on the law of the country if you want change vote for change and stop complaining 😔
If a cat is born in a horse stable,it doesn't make the cat a horse!!😂😂😂
I suspect Lerato is having something with a foreign national
Her and Somizi they know what they know in regards Foreigners,,Somizi yena disapointed me he was there when we fought apartheid government and having imidlwembe that were pushing us back..even now wbo Lerato are those who pushing us back when we saving our sovereignity
@@berengsello5645 No, she's a celebrity, they get paid to promote and endorse certain things. Look at how suddenly celebrities are coming out, when they realize that SA is not letting this go. These are the very people who'll promote Huawei, but use an iPhone. So they are paid. I wish SAns would read up on Malcom X and what he said about how celebrities and sports nonsense are used.
@@madimkhonzeseemela1841 he is the same age as me
Lerato she is talking nonsense what research where even Thuli the father said they come 2010 that is 14 year's back this girl is 23.. This is KAK
Hmmm, but they did not have kids in 2010. How is she now a 23 Yr old SA kid?? What's going on here?
@@busimasango415 No such thing.Even in Mozambique she will never be regarded as a Mozambiquen.These Nigerians are here to bully us and badly we will never surrender.
😂😂 lies, lies
UK kid
Yooo....my son is 13.he was born 2011...how come is 23 years...
Something is fishy here
Madonsela wants to be on every bus
You out of public office, let the people be
We had enough of you
Why are you attacking Madonsela instead of putting your head on the table regarding the topic at hand
Very we'll said, that woman is in every moving bus. She is no longer in a Public prosecutor. We have heard enough of her biased.
Weldone Thuli Madonsela for getting truth from the father.
@@Tdog-q2z because like I said she gets onto every bus to the point of disrespect she's no watchdog now when she was she didn't do her job to the benefit of black upstart companies insofar as the tenders were concerned
Then she had something to say whilst phala phala was being probed instead of respecting those judges enough before passing comments
She had no respect for her successor just like the new pp but expects respect from others
@@Tdog-q2z there's so many asylumites refugees in the country but every Dec holidays they go home for vacation and it's been happening while madonsela was in office now she wants to get herself involved in the miss nigey/rsa story
Just leave the people who are responsible to do their job
She's not helping really she wants to be seen again
' 2010 and at that time we didn't have children'.....meaning 14 years ago....but Chidima is 23 years🙆
Her father visited SA in 2010 when she was not yet born. But she is now 23 years old and she was born in SA. Mathematics is confusing.
Pure corruption of Nigerians and home-affairs simple
Very confusing indeed 😂
That means Chichi was not born in south africa and the wife is the step mother to Chidima
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@@bonanababusi2781 Nothing is adding up here. Maybe I'm not good at numbers.
Her father has spoken. This is not to be discussed. She must not compete. Her documents are fraudulent. Big up Minister Mc Kenzie💪💪💪
Akahambe
This man is lying
Is a Nigerian what are we expecting
He is telling the truth. He is been SA for ten years that makes her daughter a Nigerian.
My president Gayton
Not surprised that u support that convict.
@@sobisisibeko2060 Nelson Mandela was a jailbird too
@@sobisisibeko2060 Nelson Mandela was a jailbird too
@@sobisisibeko2060Nelson Mandela was a convict too❗️
@@sobisisibeko2060uyisilima shem.
Where's the mother? Why is she so silent?
Her mother does not want to entertain nonsense because there are different bodies involved why did not they look into this matter
@@Tdog-q2zDoes she not want to explain why her daughter was born after 2010 but is 23 years old? This girl is a modern day "baby Jesus i.e miracle birth!
SABC is dodgy if at this point they have not tried to reach out for the mother to clarify the child's case. Is she still alive, or still in SA? Why is her child suffering alone like this? If SABC was able to trace Thabo Bester's mom, why are they not doing the same here?🤔
Ey they are too dodgy
The father just messed up everything for her by saying in 2010 we didn't have kids. I really support black Africans but the father seems to be contradicting himself
Is that even the father to start off with?
Having come in 2010 yet she was born before then...
There's no name of the parent or the child he is talking about or proof that that's an authentic phone call, or date and time it was made or to whom it was made or who released the recording under whose authority or even faces of the people in that conversation...
Then we are supposed to take that as evidence?
Hard convincing evidence...
😂🤣😂🤣
That interview doesn't sound like the father .. no mention of Chid and no mention of him being her father. Can we just come up with facts
This organisers are desperate, all lies according to the father it is clear. I like Thuli but all what transpired here has nothing to do with harassment but the truth. She can stay in SA forever but the truth remains that she is Nigerian
Her mother is a Mozambiquen therefore How to regard her as a South Africa.No such thing called Both.
The mother said to have a dual citizenship herself. It's the SA policy.
Maths ain’t mathing🤭🤭🤭
Sometime it does mean if you are a public figure or so called celebrity you want to speak of things you know nothing about and want to present them as facts.
Which hospital was born she must bring affidavit that she was born in South Africa not UK😂😂
Gayton is not xenophobic,he is patriotic rather,we will always support him.
Being a legal South African by birth and being a South African both by birth AND by culture are 2 entirely different things. Why is that so difficult to understand?
Thus being european southafrican and be african
You have no Democratic law in your mind my friend..you are still living withing your own mindset
The girl Chidima is very beautiful. African beauty. Jealous down. She must win the beauty pageant.
Rest Madonsela Rest
I wonder in which hospital or clinic she was born.
England 😂😂
Home affairs is very strict to S. Africans, demanding them to bring 1st year school reports when applying for ids. I literally saw an old lady who was ordered to go get a school report to apply for her son's id. Funny, things are very easy when it comes to foreign nationals. They are handled with soft gloves and allowed to get away with fraudulent documents. What a shame 😢😢😢
We want this Family to be investigated please 🙏.
Arrested not investigated sebezoba o miss South Africa manje hayi ngeke ijele losiza la😢😢
For what why you people you don't understand she south Africa no matter what
Lot of digging needs to be done
These celebrities speak nonsense, we can't be listening to a narrow thinkers like them.
There is a larger issue here that everyone seems to be ignoring and South Africans are not really saying, maybe because they just don't know how to. Personally, as a South African, I don't have any issues with the half Nigerian lady representing South Africa, especially if she loves the country and she is a legal citizen. That is my personal view. At the same time, I think it is disingenuous to paint South Africans as xenophobic. South Africa is full of immigrants from all across the African continent. Some of them have been in the country for many years and have become quite successful, often at the expense of South Africans. The question is if South Africans are so xenophobic, why would all of these foreign nationals even be in the country in the first place? The larger issue that everyone seems to be ignoring is the rivalry between South Africa and Nigeria. That definitely is the biggest factor, and it seems to be quite bitter. It also goes much deeper than I actually realized. I don't think that Chidimma would have been responded to that way if one of her parents were from any other African nation instead of Nigeria. It's not that South Africans are necessarily xenophobic, as much as it is the fact that the rivalry between the 2 countries is deep. Consider how Nigerians responded toward Tyla when she won the Grammy award. All over the internet she was called all kinds of derogatory names while her Africaness was denied. Some even said that the whole of Africa should boycott the Grammies for giving the award to Tyla instead of to a Nigerian. Consider the continued hate they spew out toward Tyla every time she makes a move. Read the hateful comments from Nigerians every time she just randomly posts something on her social media accounts. These things create resentment in the hearts of South Africans who love Tyla so much that they would gladly go to war over her. Hardly a day ever goes by when Nigerians are not declaring their country as the "giant of Africa." South Africans don't actually care about being known as the giant of Africa. Because of this rivalry the attitude of South Africans only seems to be that Nigeria can have that title as long as they stay with it over there in West Africa, as far away from them as possible. Consider how South Africans would feel if Chidimma wins and becomes miss SA today, and Nigerians claim her tomorrow. Would that not make an already bitter rivalry much worse?
She doesn't love South Africa, it is just a ticket for her to better life.If she loves SA, she would not have hoisted Nigerian and Mozambican flag on her tiktok account. She is not Sout African
I partially agree you with the hate some of us harbour over Nigerians but disagree with your reasons for this bcs some of us developed hate bcs of what they are doing to the future of this country by turning the next generation into drug addicts & prostitutes & they are not even hidding their activities bcs they are untouchable to our law enforcement agencies.
Let me clarify this, SAns aren't pestering no one. You don't see them going to Nigeria and feeding the Nigerian kids drugs. You don't see SAns in Nigeria involved in illegal deals. You don't see SAns going to Nigeria involving the Nigerian kids into prostitution. You don't see SAns claiming ownership on Afrobeat or the Nollywood, I can go on and on and on..... In this case no SAn went to Nigeria and lied about their nationality so that they can benefit from Nigeria. Nigerians are the ones who are doing very hurting things towards SAns.
Mina on my own, I loathe them, especially those that are destroying our youth's future. Lives are destroyed by these evil people, families are bleeding, communities are messed up. I'm aware how much other Africans believed all the nonsense said about SAns being xenophobic. My question is, SAns have always had immigrants from Africa, some have arrived during apartheid and were never mistreated, they are now citizens. Even now we don't have a problem with those who come to our country legally, but we will not tolerate ill-treatment of being silenced and disrespected for raising our concerns.
EFF lost votes again thank you i voted My President Mackenzie.
U like convicts, did u met at jail?
Where was Madonsella all this time did she look into the ill-fated story about vbs people poor
I am South African but British too and it would be discriminatory if my children were not allowed to participate fully in Britain! Wake up people live yourselves more then you will not be petty about nothingness
SAcn are not desperate be British or maybe you a white SAcn
So we must accept frausters ?
THERES NOTHING WRONG FOR INVESTIGATING THE MATTER SND BE TRANSPARENT WE HAVE MOST BEAUTIFUL MISS SOUTH AFRICANS HERE EACH COUNTRY HAVE THERE BEAUTIES YOUR LIGHT FELL ON EVERY THING THAT HAPPENED IN OUR COUNTRY SHE IS. MIXED. SOUTH AFRICAN WE NEED PURE SOUTH A
She is Nigerian by birth, just to accept that. She is acquired SA not by birth. It means she can also represent Nigeria, the father explained everything and you all disagree with them
Yah my minister, when we asked questions or complain, we are called xenophobic, kusho kufanele sithulenje
Having come in 2010 yet she was born before then...
There's no name of the parent or the child he is talking about or proof that that's an authentic phone call, or date and time it was made or to whom it was made or who released the recording under whose authority or even faces of the people in that conversation...
Then we are supposed to take that as evidence?
Hard convincing evidence...
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Nithulile ngo zille mos. Vele thulani. Ave nisaba abelungu gaaa
@@nelzg5819haibo ugogo wakho kade afika la wafunda la besuka e Germany coz Hitler webulala akabanga miss South Africa njengalona wako Nigeria ethi ungiwalapha 😢
@@nelzg5819msu.......wenj.....
@nelzg5819 u Hellen Zille, ngu gogo, ngicabanga ukuthi nawe wawungakazalwa, ngalesoskhathi, kwathula oyihlomkhulu, thina sasikuphi lapho, qala ngokucabanga, ugcine ngokukhuluma
Too many lies here
Mackenzie is a Scottish surname
Ndoda mhlongo maybe you want her right ✅️ congrats 👏 according to my knowledge we South African we don't overcrowded people in their countrys, and those countrys they will never allow us to.
Remember, julius Malema is friends with Bushiri!
Only Home Affairs will know what her nationality is. There's no attack on any black woman.
If she is born in South Africa, then she's South African otherwise no!
Don't make contributions if you're not informed. In SA and in Nigeria, being born in those countries doesn't make you automatically a citizen of those countries. Go read slima if you don't know izinto. Shuuuuuuush nje wena, uhlale kwi lane yakho, ungazophapha LA.
xenophobia ,apartheid and racism is the same
Decent Q, is one suppose to enter Miss SA if she is divorced or have kids. Please check for us.
How old is this woman, I think we must start there first.....
Thank you Mandotsela and the Eff for enlightening us on this citizenship issue.
At least you saved the home affairs ministry some face as they're still scrutinizing the citizenship act....
I genuinely think PA is Patriotic .Let every possible stone be turned .Whatever is called " proper documents is it really proper " in the light of rampant corruption at Home Affairs .Please let us all be careful but now that this matter is in public Whatever the reason however it came about let the whole matter be exhausted by " trustworthy individuals, political parties etc let PA go and do all the digging beyond outcomes of the Competition Please PA do more digging a lot will come out you will be seen to be Truly Patriotic .Unfortunately at the moment you are being insulted .Go digging PA is genuinely Patriotic
She is attached because of a Nigeria surname. What about minister of sport Gayton McKenzie, minister of agriculture John St.
South Africans watch how you gonna b treated in other foreign countries
We have no history of going anywhere unevited and intending to be citizens of those countries we respect people's countries
@@nathinathi303gmxm. U yourself ad a nguni r from west africa originally. Who do u think u are wena
We have no intentions of going to loot and scam anyone. Even during apartheid the exiles were not even making 10% of our SAn population. When they were in exile they had no intention of staying there forever. In actual fact, when they skipped the country they believed that they were just going to get training and will be back to operate in the country. Even now, with all our challenges in our country we are prepared and committed in fixing our challenges. We have no other home except Mzansi.
People hear what they want to hear,they said the mother's (ROOTS)are from Mozambique,People will start questioning our intelligence. So sad
Having come in 2010 yet she was born before then...
There's no name of the parent or the child he is talking about or proof that that's an authentic phone call, or date and time it was made or to whom it was made or who released the recording under whose authority or even faces of the people in that conversation...
Then we are supposed to take that as evidence?
Hard convincing evidence...
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@@Dr_Du-Littlewena uyisthuphethu. Where are the girls? When are you getting back the girls????? Sies! You're busy fighting for your fraudster reject to be recognized as a SAn beauty queen, why isn't she competing in Nigeria, because you all know she wouldn't qualify because she is I 2nd hand yeReject. Namathanga ashwabene. Nxaaaaa.
There isn't clarity this Nigerian is saying
ont worry the vwhole family will be invistegate how they obtaine our citizenship, just wait an see the outcome 😅
How old is this girl if her parents got married in 2013? This man says by then they had no children. This girl is a Nigerian not a Southgerian.
How can these girl be born before her family got married 2010 if so shes 14 years of age
You actually miss the point she is takeing a change for a south african away
I am a bit confused here. Either the father doesn't know what he is saying or I am not the one understanding. The girl was born in soweto, and it was said that she's 23 years old. What am I really listening to here ??
Soon South Africa will have a Foreign Cabinet Minister and President. Listen to the father averments
It happened in Durban with kaunda being a premiere...
@@sharonmanzi4681 Being a Mayor of ethekwini you mean?
You have so many, steinhusein and makenzie are not south africans
Hellen Zile has German parents...
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@@SamuelMkamuri-b2xWe don't expect a mkamuri to understand.
Gayton awee die storie gaan aan.
Lerato kudlalwe ngawe😂😂😂😂
This girl was born in which year?
The mother is south african or Mozambique
Hulle is almal vikeet praat vanie koi san mense van Africa we are koisan mense van Africa coloured salute doen julle hulle huis werk reg sa lute PA
Bai naam stasie STKids
Lerato did her research but forgot to culculate, maybe o dirile molapalo (number line) miscalculation 😂😂😂.
Disregard that audio interview that's not the father's voice
I was against the attack on her nationality until the father said in 2010 was the first time coming to SA with the mother and they ddnt have kids😮 where was she born?if was born in UK she should have taken their citizenship.if the mother was not married than she can be South African.lot need to be explained crz
Having come in 2010 yet she was born before then...
There's no name of the parent or the child he is talking about or proof that that's an authentic phone call, or date and time it was made or to whom it was made or who released the recording under whose authority or even faces of the people in that conversation...
Then we are supposed to take that as evidence?
Hard convincing evidence...
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They dont get married they just have kids to become citizens. This country is taken over by Foreigners
To explain what, what is hard to not understand
You were Against the attack of her nationality, why?????? This thing of SAns like you who are quick to see fault on SAns who are voicing their dissatisfaction, whilst, accepting everything as correct that's said by non SAns as fact, without doing your own research.
Do you even know what our laws say about citizenship, or the Nigerian law says about citizenship? I doubt. We are not crazy...... SAns are not crazy.
@@nokweyisangqungwana3103
But do we sometimes do a self introspection and reflection before we embarras ourselves Infront of the whole world?
My worry is..... This guy never mentioned Chidima kodwa yaz, is it relevant?
Why black south african don't worry about millions of white and Indian foreigners running country even in parliament ???
Mxxxxxxxm
Who is Mackenzie's parents where are they from why he hates blacks so much I have never heard him attacks Chinese Portuguese Jews whites the way he is attacking blacks from Africa is questionable
MacKenzie is a Zimbabwean hiding under Afrikaans they can also invest him plzz hw can you hate Africans lyk u,
South Africans are hypocrites,,we had Breast 1:48 Mtawarira playing in our Rugby National Team and we celebrated Him as our Hero
@celebritymoila2276 there's a big difference when someone is part of a team sport than a singular competition. How is she going to fly our flag when she does not even see the need to carry it now. How does she go to Ms Universe, etc, and how will she represent SA. Where is this South African mother, we want to hear her story too. Asking for clarity does not make us hypocrites, we have a right to know who represent us, we have far too many beautiful ladies right here, who can represent us in our dance, songs, culture traditions etc. This, eish is deep, its about who we are as a people, not just a pretty face.
There was a he'll of an outcry about that one. Stofile ( then minister of sports) quickly organized citizenship for him.
@@nomagcisacawe3297 Mtawarira was not born in SA but this is better because she was born Here.
@@nomagcisacawe3297 recently we had Ranga Chivhaviro whose Father is a Zimbabwean playing For Bafana Bafana at Cosafa
@@celebritymoila2276 Were you there when she was born? Father says he came to RSA in 2010 and did not have any children. If she was born in 2010, then she is 14 and not 23.
Dual citizenship is allowed
Not always, sometimes when you take another country’s citizenship you lose 🇿🇦 citizenship. E.g Zimbabwe.
You met the mother in 2010 & the daughter is 23, please we are not fools let her represent nigeria in nigeria where she belongs simple, this doesn't serve S.A. after she got in top 11 she already celebriting in nigeria entlek who is she representing... this is not Miss S.A. Nigeria it's Miss S.A full stop don't mix the two
Oksalayo she was born out of Nigerian seed so therefore she's not south african traditionally so
Her mother is a Mozambique 🇲🇿 he is lying
you dont need requirements to be a South African as a student of fees must fall this is a complete rubish
Why not is not south Africa
Is this girl 14 yrs old
2010 no kids they got married
SA is free for all i know of people leaving wives and kids in other countries and starting familes here,same with women.this is whats going on especially among the blacks.How do you stop this?
This why SA the numbers are growing and resources are depleted
Amanga aqanjwe la ngyawasaba
Gayton McKenzie is unversed shame
She must Go
The interviewer is promoting this 🚹, basically feeding info to the interviewee. She isn't South African, even this alleged father is a liar. Then he goes on to tell us that his children have *dual citizenship* status, according to him they're are both nigerian and South African... how so?
Funny! So easy to attack fellow blacks
Where is the South African mother to defend her child? They came here from UK in 2010 13 years ago ...how come she's 23 years old? Born in Sowetho by who
@@dududugwala1059
Having come in 2010 yet she was born before then...
There's no name of the parent or the child he is talking about or proof that that's an authentic phone call, or date and time it was made or to whom it was made or who released the recording under whose authority or even faces of the people in that conversation...
Then we are supposed to take that as evidence?
Hard convincing evidence...
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For a mere peagant like it holds weight as opposed to the positions white foreigners hold in deciding our economy and such. Thats black south africans for u. Not the smartest of the bunch . nope
But the father said they came in SA 2010 without kids so how possible is that the girl is a South African.?????
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The woman who was interviewing the nigerian man is lost and really uninteresting in her interviewing skills....her interviewing questions are weak and inconsistent and fragmented and she seems even unsure of what shes asking...exactly to such a crucial national topic about this beautiful girl birth country-why the lady was given a platform to ask these questions....truly speaking the interviewing lady is a mess...what shes doing in the media when shes speaks like 🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
How many white people who have citizenship of South Africa and are not crossified by anyone.
Citizenship ( not forged) and not colour!
Dankie. Bakhohlakele . stuphethu zabantu
Ooh lerato speaking goid English saying nothing no facts 😂😂😂
Asinandaba na English la ipelepele aliboshwe chidima nonina😢😢
The boers are from Europe. Chidima, the mother, is a South African, and the father is a Zimbabwean. There're boers representing South Africa in Paris right now. Just imagine these crazy nation !!!
Gets your facts right, this Chidhma okocho has nothing to do with Zimbabwe plz
Mozambique mother nagerian father
Gayton is right
Is not right he talk nonsense, that why you south Africa you don't know where becoming the orgin of people from here in South Africa
If his father is Nigerian why a big deal she is a Nigerian àaaai she takes her fathers identity you cant say if your mother is Xhosa married to Sotho man you are not Sotho but Xhosa and please stop this xenophobic emotional blackmail SA are challeging issues this beautiful young lady is a Nigerian our African darling
That's cultural but SA law allows child to be SA citizen if one or both are SA citizen
@@molefimotsamai1640Broer this woman was born in JHB in 2001 according to the documents she submitted, but if you hear the father ,they came here in 2010 and they didn't have any kids , 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Niyayithanda xenophobic ningayazi ubaba kangane wavakasha eMzansi ngo 2010 nge World Cup when he met my South African wife wase zakwa nini ungane
Uma nikhuluma nge Sinophobia why ningasho nalana e UK ukuthi I xenophobia lento eyenzakala la ??
Theres no xenophobic pure corruption from home-affairs and Nigerians,he bought that ID 😂😂😂😂😂😂
She supposed to contest for Mr Africa not south Africa
They must go to Nigeria they are not south africsnd .
Gayton is walking on the footsteps of Nhlanhla Lux..... Soon your social media fame is going to fade and you will ruin your political career
Msu.....Wak.....
@@nokweyisangqungwana3103 shlam....kamah..wak
@@RudazTinman yengqu......eboli......yomsun.......wenj.........enukayo. Nyok.......yisif........esalala nehlany.......kwazalwa wenamdzi........womgod.......
@@nokweyisangqungwana3103 ngabe wazelaph msn wenja.......mmmm jwayele ukudla izinja yin wengane engaz ubaba wayo mxm.... Zalwe isfebe wena
The question now is if the father came with visitors visa from UK was this converted legally as what for him to be a south african. Which laws were also applied for his wife a mozambican to be a south african
Having come in 2010 yet she was born before then...
There's no name of the parent or the child he is talking about or proof that that's an authentic phone call, or date and time it was made or to whom it was made or who released the recording under whose authority or even faces of the people in that conversation...
Then we are supposed to take that as evidence?
Hard convincing evidence...
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Citizenship law says if one parent is SA n then the child is a SA citizen.
Where is a Mother
@@Chinekewhowwww
Great question
Yes but the father said they come here 2010
How old is his daughter if he married in 2013 and they did not have kids then?
Which woman is a Mozambican?
She must be 11yrs according to what the father said because they were married in 2013
Banana republic
Gayton is always right❤❤
Lerato chawing something from west Africans 😊
Wena lerato wakhona vele you're dating Nigerian that's why you defending your sister in law
2010....23years old. Ningazodakwa nina
Ungena kanjani kule competition ngempela lontombazane
Lerato AKA Camilla haris