Sometimes there are decisions I can't comprehend a sane person could make. Profs explanation for the panel award selection is beyond stupid. Not nominating Richard Lewis or Thorin for content creators due to the metric used (views) would be like the Oscars skipping over Martin Scorcese films because of some marvel trash that made 10 times the money. Who even comes up with this shit at hltv? This is not meant as a hate comment for real, I m a regular. But there are decisions be it in rankings or just generally at hltv where I can't rap my mind around.
Asstralis, by putting out a statement that basically addresses no specific question but deflects attention from what actually happened, aims to solidify its Danish fan base. That is the strategy they decided to go with, and we will see if it is going to work. But, one thing that's for sure gonna happen is that this team will be booed everywhere they go for a tournament that’s hosted outside Denmark and people in the cs community will always cheer for their opponent. Let them rot in their basement in Denmark.
@@tonyt5711 don't really know, but blamef did say in an interview that he developed his game the way it is because no one wanted to play with him. gotta be a reason that despite his skill, the danish scene ostracized him while he was coming up.
Funny thing is. Their new jersey Astralis showed Jabbi & Stawn had "Red Cross" on them 😂 Not only that! The week after they focused on anti-bullying against girls in the gaming community 😂 You just can't make it up. The PR-team could be spin doctors for politicians.
Astralis focuses on anti-bullying against girls in gaming community? Considering the history with their own female team, they should go baby steps and start fighting more serious things
SPUNJ you're simply naive if you think the entire stabbi situation is solely about two players wanting to move to Astralis and they went about it straight up. Astralis most like advised them to create drama to destabilize Heroic in an attempt to save Astralis money which could then be given to the duo. If the only thing that happened was that they wanted to move on, they would have been straight up bought out with ZERO drama surrounding it.
Maybe he just has common sense enough to not slander a massive organisation without any evidence whatsoever? These guys have careers that they have to take care of, first and foremost. Try and see the bigger picture before calling someone else naive.
The whole stabbi thing is Astralis org at their best lol nothing new.. the Liquid vid was all in all a HUGE GEN Z video what guys hold hands walking around or even have their arm around another dude? 😂
Because the attention around it was dying down. They just opened it up again. Its not like this statement changes anything. People still think they are cunts.
If they had got slandered they would have responded right away to save their reputation. They could have even put legal effort to addressing this issue. But none of these happened. Their inaction for almost two months speaks volumes to the truth contained in Heroic’s statement.
Ok so everyone takes Heroic’s statement at face value and when these kids respond it’s an “L statement”. Who cares when they responded. And how does that statement make them look bad. They reached a consensus with the org and other players that Cadian should go and when the org goes behind their back to test sticking with Cadian they peace out. Seems logical. There’s no way an org would side with 2 top 30 riflers over a top 5, maybe even top 3 IGL in his prime if it was just them vs him. Solid riflers are way easier to find than a top tier IGL, especially one that your entire system was built around.
Dodging questions that you are supposed to address with all the accusations Heroic threw at you is a bad move, regardless of what actually happened. If Heroic was viciously slandering your team members, you could sue them. Plus, Richard Lewis, who is never known as a fan of Heroic, has covered this story and it seems like Astralis was involved in some shady scheme against Heroic. So you deserve to bear all the PR consequences bc of either your lack of competence in handling the PR crisis or your actual involvement in maliciously destabilizing another team. Also, it actually made sense for Heroic to let go cadiaN bc everyone would expect things to drastically change in CS2. They’d rather choose two young players over an old igl when it comes to making a bet for the future. Your whole argument doesn’t hold.
@@jeremiahwang9337 at which point in my argument did I mention astralis? I don’t have any insight into astralis’ actions in the whole deal nor do I care. My problem is with everyone piling on these kids like they had some secret master plan to screw over heroic. Why? What’s their motivation? Why would they suddenly screw over this org that supposedly treated them so well? Or maybe, just maybe, heroics quickness to publicly air out dirty laundry and blast their players says more about the org than the players they’re talking about. Lack of professionalism from heroic was astounding. I’ve never seen an org do that, in any sport that I can remember. While I’m all for accountability that stuff is usually handled privately.
how do they "test" with cadian behind their backs when they were already gone and cadian already was out ontop of it, seems more like one last round rather than a test but word things however you want
@@poorman9259 what do you mean how do they “test”, they go to Cadian and see if he’s interested in building a new team around himself cause they got cold feet about the whole thing since decent IGL’s are very hard to find. If I remember correctly even Cadian himself said something like that.
people just like drama and needs someone to be the "bad guy" so they can have an excuse to be toxic towards someone. its kinda pathetic what jabbi and stavn have to go through with these toxic comments, and 9/10 of people saying shit would do the exact same thing that they did.
@@AndrewJanusson Edward even said in the video something like "if you allow yourselves to go through with this, you'll be surprised with how much you'll succeed". the people who call it cringe don't understand how impactful something like this can be for a team
@AndrewJanusson Sorry was not born in soyboy era Crying and being emotional is not my thing Results is what i like And if that helps them good for them
If I was Jabbi, I would simply lean into the whole ordeal and officially change my IGN to Stabbi and begin my gamer villain ark! xD
Agreed, I mean he's already on the villain squad.
Stabbi is nickname of jabbi + stavn duo not only jabbi
@@Oeht_cs yeah but stavn can have stabn
@@Oeht_csbut its still a fitting name so he should go for it!
no stabbi is stabbi and stabn is stabn@@Oeht_cs
Sometimes there are decisions I can't comprehend a sane person could make. Profs explanation for the panel award selection is beyond stupid.
Not nominating Richard Lewis or Thorin for content creators due to the metric used (views) would be like the Oscars skipping over Martin Scorcese films because of some marvel trash that made 10 times the money. Who even comes up with this shit at hltv?
This is not meant as a hate comment for real, I m a regular. But there are decisions be it in rankings or just generally at hltv where I can't rap my mind around.
Asstralis, by putting out a statement that basically addresses no specific question but deflects attention from what actually happened, aims to solidify its Danish fan base. That is the strategy they decided to go with, and we will see if it is going to work. But, one thing that's for sure gonna happen is that this team will be booed everywhere they go for a tournament that’s hosted outside Denmark and people in the cs community will always cheer for their opponent. Let them rot in their basement in Denmark.
The problem is that they have one of the most likable players incs history and who tf would want to boo dev1ce?:(
Most Danish fans will absolutely gobble it up.
@@joramsim good thing it's offset by the stabbi and blamef trio.
@@templarknight7 i dont like stabbi but whats so bad about blamef? i dont know much about him except that he baits a lot.
@@tonyt5711 don't really know, but blamef did say in an interview that he developed his game the way it is because no one wanted to play with him. gotta be a reason that despite his skill, the danish scene ostracized him while he was coming up.
That Twistzz comment is spot on. The HLTV Top 20 reaction so far is so trash 😂 It’s not even valid criticism just fanboys being mad
Same as everything else HLTV does
I'm taking the pro's stance on this. @@tech4172
Thanks for all the great episodes this year!
strikers cat is adorable
Hating on Liquids video is one of the bigger L takes by these guys in recent history.
mezii #1
THANK YOU!
im really interested in seeing how liquid develops as a team.
Chad securing the bag
This is the best skinionaire of all time
I know the reason why Striker loses balls on his tree ... I have two of those feline creatures :))
that title is.... something
last years hltv award show was amazing im very excited for the next!
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Spunj plumbing videos !!!!
kardashians for nerts , l0l
Twistzz should be a lot higher
8:43 well nto somebody
stabbi L statement lol. that had to have been Lucas writing that title
> stabbi L statement
lmao
Funny thing is. Their new jersey Astralis showed Jabbi & Stawn had "Red Cross" on them 😂
Not only that! The week after they focused on anti-bullying against girls in the gaming community 😂
You just can't make it up. The PR-team could be spin doctors for politicians.
Astralis focuses on anti-bullying against girls in gaming community? Considering the history with their own female team, they should go baby steps and start fighting more serious things
Whats up with the random shit on this ep??
No news, nothing to discuss basically
SPUNJ you're simply naive if you think the entire stabbi situation is solely about two players wanting to move to Astralis and they went about it straight up. Astralis most like advised them to create drama to destabilize Heroic in an attempt to save Astralis money which could then be given to the duo. If the only thing that happened was that they wanted to move on, they would have been straight up bought out with ZERO drama surrounding it.
Tin cap
Maybe he just has common sense enough to not slander a massive organisation without any evidence whatsoever? These guys have careers that they have to take care of, first and foremost. Try and see the bigger picture before calling someone else naive.
The whole stabbi thing is Astralis org at their best lol nothing new.. the Liquid vid was all in all a HUGE GEN Z video what guys hold hands walking around or even have their arm around another dude? 😂
most braindead take i've ever heard 😂😂😂 why tf would they stay quiet when they are getting slandered
The take is that they should've responded right away. No sense in responding after almost 2 months
Because it's not slander when it's the truth. Lol.
Because the attention around it was dying down. They just opened it up again. Its not like this statement changes anything. People still think they are cunts.
If they had got slandered they would have responded right away to save their reputation. They could have even put legal effort to addressing this issue. But none of these happened. Their inaction for almost two months speaks volumes to the truth contained in Heroic’s statement.
@@jeremiahwang9337 there priority was to get on a team not make statements on false allegations bozo like i said it's slander
Ok so everyone takes Heroic’s statement at face value and when these kids respond it’s an “L statement”. Who cares when they responded. And how does that statement make them look bad. They reached a consensus with the org and other players that Cadian should go and when the org goes behind their back to test sticking with Cadian they peace out. Seems logical. There’s no way an org would side with 2 top 30 riflers over a top 5, maybe even top 3 IGL in his prime if it was just them vs him. Solid riflers are way easier to find than a top tier IGL, especially one that your entire system was built around.
Dodging questions that you are supposed to address with all the accusations Heroic threw at you is a bad move, regardless of what actually happened. If Heroic was viciously slandering your team members, you could sue them. Plus, Richard Lewis, who is never known as a fan of Heroic, has covered this story and it seems like Astralis was involved in some shady scheme against Heroic. So you deserve to bear all the PR consequences bc of either your lack of competence in handling the PR crisis or your actual involvement in maliciously destabilizing another team. Also, it actually made sense for Heroic to let go cadiaN bc everyone would expect things to drastically change in CS2. They’d rather choose two young players over an old igl when it comes to making a bet for the future. Your whole argument doesn’t hold.
@@jeremiahwang9337 at which point in my argument did I mention astralis? I don’t have any insight into astralis’ actions in the whole deal nor do I care. My problem is with everyone piling on these kids like they had some secret master plan to screw over heroic. Why? What’s their motivation? Why would they suddenly screw over this org that supposedly treated them so well? Or maybe, just maybe, heroics quickness to publicly air out dirty laundry and blast their players says more about the org than the players they’re talking about. Lack of professionalism from heroic was astounding. I’ve never seen an org do that, in any sport that I can remember. While I’m all for accountability that stuff is usually handled privately.
how do they "test" with cadian behind their backs when they were already gone and cadian already was out ontop of it, seems more like one last round rather than a test but word things however you want
@@poorman9259 what do you mean how do they “test”, they go to Cadian and see if he’s interested in building a new team around himself cause they got cold feet about the whole thing since decent IGL’s are very hard to find. If I remember correctly even Cadian himself said something like that.
people just like drama and needs someone to be the "bad guy" so they can have an excuse to be toxic towards someone. its kinda pathetic what jabbi and stavn have to go through with these toxic comments, and 9/10 of people saying shit would do the exact same thing that they did.
Liquid team building video was cringe asf
the cadian reveal was based af
*Sees wholesome video, calls it cringe*. Well we know how you were brought up...
@@AndrewJanusson Edward even said in the video something like "if you allow yourselves to go through with this, you'll be surprised with how much you'll succeed". the people who call it cringe don't understand how impactful something like this can be for a team
@@fVNzO he's talking about the video they made about their 5 day bootcamp away from computers with their mental coach.
@AndrewJanusson Sorry was not born in soyboy era Crying and being emotional is not my thing Results is what i like And if that helps them good for them
18:35 striker absolutely did not get enough hugs as a kid, hearing a grown man say that is sad and telling of why his personality is what it is