A bit confusing. I purchased the pre-order Fat Bear and thought I was getting the bike you reviewed. There was only one fat bear on Rattan.com untill today. It would have been much more clear if you could have had both bikes to review at the same time together. The misunderstanding about the price and color display, distance it can go was all confusing. I thought you were talking about the same bike I bought.They just put the fat bear Plus on their site today for sale at $1.500 before the presale discount. Now I wish that I would have waited. I hope that they will let me upgrade before my bikie is shipped out on the 15th. The 40 to 60 miles statistic has now upgraded with the plus version too. They now say that the New Fat Bear Plus that they posted on pre-order today will go 70 to 90 miles on a single charge.
How good is this kind of suspension? I have a spinal injury and I am thinking something like this might be a good mobility aid. I am wondering about the shocks, because jolts to the spine in a car or on the bus are one of the worst things for me. Also, is this the typical price, or can these features be found for less? I just need reliability, folding and good suspension, but not all the computer stuff. I am hoping to get back to uni and finish my degree, but have not been able to find a way to deal with the mobility issues yet (Auckland uni is only a 10-15 minute walk from home that I can do occasionally at a push, but had to stop going because I just could not do that walk daily). An e-bike with good shocks might just be the solution.
The shock probably has 30 mm of compression. That's not the same as suspension travel. That bike has a Horst link design so it's likely 3.25:1 leverage ratio. Meaning around 100 mm of vertical rear wheel travel.
Rattan emailed the FedEx tracking number for my Fat Bear this morning. They also sent an email clarifying more of how the system operates. They informed me that with the Color LCD monitor the system does not actually have any drag in it when in mode 2 or 3. When in mode 0 or 1 pedaling, going down hill when reaching a speed of 18mph or greater the rider will experience some drag resistance in the system. This resistance is the regeneration capabilities kicking in and working converting kinetic energy and storing it in the battery for more miles per charge. Amazing!
Hey Clifford-glad it's on the way. I ordered one yesterday and noticed they immediately placed it on "shipped" but I see it's only "on paper" or "preshipment". Hopefully I'll receive a tracking number in the next couple of days. If you want to do a review here or even make an unboxing video I'd love to see it. Good luck.
@@mobeale I received the same email immediately after I made the purchase marking shipping to be fulfilled but with no FedEx tracking number. I wasn't too concerned about that at first because the website stated at that time that the pre-order bikes would be shipped out on Oct 15th. Then when they added the new fat bear plus bike to the website and I asked them if I could upgrade to it they replied that I could not upgrade because my bike had already been shipped out but that they would send me the color LCD display free, so that I can make my Fat Bear into the plus version. I told them that I needed my FedEx tracking number as their website says that they will send this info. The next day they were able to provide me with the FedEx tracking number and the shipment has been shipped out that very same day from California not actually even Canada according to FedEx. I have no idea what is going on with all of that? You may very well want to ask them where your FedEx tracking number is. Maybe I will do an unboxing on here. I know I will be making a video of it. I will continue to put updates on here. I just want to help clarify and show the truth of my buying experience.
Pretty good review. Really appreciate the longer and mixed terrain ride test rather than 2 minutes on a lawn or sidewalk. Unfortunately I jus ordered my folding spark last night so I hadn’t even heard of this one. Thanks
I appreciate that you took the bike on some challenging trails instead of just a parking lot. Also great that you had both hands on the bars instead of trying to hold a camera with one. That’s always irked me with the other reviews. This is much more helpful and realistic . I’ve backed the Juiced HyperScorpion and I can’t wait to get it in March but this looks like a great choice for an off-road bike. The main reason I went for the Scorpion is the full suspension. My current folding ebike only has front suspension and those long rides can really start to feel long!
i bought an ebike almost identical to this in the Ebay UK under the Chinese brand Paselec. 1400 Pounds. Come with a rear rack, and full set of mudguards, 750W geared hub motor, (by the way the one in this video is geared as well. 100% about this). The bike is great
This review is a bit out of date. The Fat Bear is now sold under the Yamee brand, does include the fenders and rack and lights and choice of 750 or 500W. Blue, green, or a silver-grey. Strongly considering buying.
Hi David! This will be published on the channel soon, we sometimes have to wait a few days so that we don't publish a bunch in one day and saturate the channel.
@@TysonRoehrkasse Hi Tyson! Perfect thanks for the reply. Loved the review by the way. This review helped me decide for this bike so we'll see how it goes.
Apparently the lesser bike does not even have regeneration capability without the color display. Their website led me to believe that it would at the time of my purchase. They say I can't upgrade bikes because mine has already shipped although I did not receive shipping confirmation or FedEx tracking information yet as their site say I will.
What you think about the new name for this bike? Yamme? Interested in a bike I can take some small jumps and have some urban fun but now new company higher price and I'm just waiting for some direction. Thank you as always
ya I like the fact that it has regenerative charging i have the mate x with a 750 watt motor and my biggest complaint is you have no way of charging while riding. I took my bike on a 20 mile trip with some huge up hills and downhill and I couldn't make it home towing my daughter in a stroller
Regeneration is just showing voltage which WILL go up and down with throttle use etc. I read that mostly regen in general is only 5% effective which is pretty terrible lol. Like the idea of fat tyres and suspension but I ride in wet and there is a lot of brocken glass about so might not really be very good?
The rattan web site spec for the FAt Bear + is A Drive Motor: 48V 500W I-PAS system dedicated motor. But I got A 36 volt 350 watt motor. I call the support # and its not working. I E-mail Support No response.
Another great review. most of the bikes you review are past my budget, but I enjoy the channel. I have a Ancheer 250w I ride about everyday. I have an Lectric xp on the way.
Just Got My Fat Bear Plus Bike. Looks like its well built, Just have some issue's . I am not able to remove my battery. The key only moves the pin 1/8 way and the battery will not come out. Also I ordered this bike using the Ratan web site specifications, Unfortunately I did not receive what I was promised . These are just (2) 1.Battery: 48V 11.6AH lithium battery with Samsung 18650-29e cells 2. Motor: 48V 500W I-PAS system dedicated motor.
I can't confirm # 1 because I can't get the batter out! #2 The motor that I received say's its a 36 volt 350 watt motor. That's like buying a V8 car and only getting a V6. I have called the 24 hours tech phone line & it says leave a message. I have left several phone messages and E-Mails with no response. So with no Customer support I am sure that there is also no warranty either. Big Disappointment.
If pulse width modulator was used, the bike would be able to slow down by how much charge is sent to the battery. I would put this feature on an ebike.
Rattan has been attentive to my questions and concerns so far, although they say that my bike has already been shipped I've not received any FedEx tracking number yet. This is definitely huge concern that I am waiting for them to resolve now.
@@Xenumiscagive In my case they did let me upgrade to the plus version and they first say that the bikes were going to be shipped on the 15th but i just got my FedEx tracking number I should be getting the bike on the 17th. So far this company has a great customer service. Hope this helps you
Nice review. The wiring is fairly sloppy and the Cadence sensor should have a 90 degree wire connection. I would rather have a city/urban bike with the regen though.
I am new to this whole E-bike thing , but it seems to me the best way to go about shopping as a " new bee " is to go backwards and find out the best battery's , as I will want my power to be reliable and cost effective ? I am seeing 300 to 400 ish for most .... but the sleeve ones like this I see on amazon for 110 eb-7 to 160 ish for the Swagtron EB-8 Outlaw ?
Why would you review a ebike that is not out yet but looks identical to one being sold, call it same name and give it the specs for the one being sold, not specifying any difference between the two bikes besides the different displays? Very misleading until yesterday when the new bike actually came out.
How about that the Lectric XP is a far better value for the money? I bought my e-bike last October for $1050, one similar to the XP, and it too seems a much better value than the Rattan Fat Bear Plus.
I ordered 2 of these ebikes. First, they sent the wrong ebikes, they sent the ones with a rack and fenders. 1 ebike was the wrong color, but I figured its ok that they sent the wrong ebikes. But then 1 was the wrong color, the other ebike came with no seat and the other ebike throttle dont work. I texted them twice and the third time, my text came back with a problem and I could never email them anymore. Tried to call, and the number is now inoperable. Thats where Im at now, wondering what to do.
@Anthony Ross Marino Aside from Lectric being cheaper, what else makes it "a lot" nicer than the Fat Bear? Fat Bear regens, has hydraulic breaks, better battery, suspension fork, rear shock, color lcd, usb port, better materials, now also comes with fenders and rear rack (renamed as Yamee).
I would highly recommend avoiding this company. They are not a legit company, it’s like 2 Chinese people selling bikes online. The product came missing parts which I couldn’t get and the materials broke within a week. Their was no warranty to speak of. I reported them to US consumer affairs
Based the on the recommendation I bought the FatBear on 10/12/19. Quick delivery but the hydraulic rear brake was leaking. No replacement from the company yet. Does anyone have there phone number? I will update this situation continues. However, this is the nightmare of online bike sales. Support your local bike shop - I knew better.
They are actually the same manufacturer. I'm comparing them now. Yamee has a rear rack and taillight but I hear the PAS isn't so great uphill, I'm wondering if that's something that's adjustable?
48V 11.6AH HIDDEN BATTERY WITH SAMSUNG 2900 CELLS The rugged aluminum alloy frame includes a hidden battery pack used Samsung 2900 cells capable of delivering over 60 miles per charge using pedal assist or around 40 miles on throttle-only mode. These are statistics listed for the Fat Bear on rattanebike.com the last I checked just a few minutes ago. This is still very confusing to me. Does the Fat Bear travel 40 to 60 miles with the monochrome display or 70 to 90 miles?
Guys I got the bike it's awesome but they send me the wrong screen. I contacted rattan already I'm waiting on a response. Also it came with a small scratch
Why didn't Rattan inform you that the Fat Bear being sold at the time of your review would not have regenerative capabilities without that display? Rattanebike.com boasted that it would have those capabilities and that was the sole reason that I purchased it.
He did say that the model he was reviewing was different. He even mentioned the plus version. And he asked rattan about why the pictures on the website showed a different LCD display.
@@dacp09 Correct, he said that the plus version was the display. Rattan tels me that this display unlocks the regenerative capabilities. The bike being sold at the time did not have this display but it was marketed on rattanebike.com to have the regenerative capability. The bike reviewed had an estimated 40 to 60 mile range per charge. The Fat Bear Plus has an estimated 70 to 90 mile range per charge.
@@cliffordjason3746 ok you have to understand that IPAS it's not the name of the regenerative capabilities. That's the name of the technology that they have to make the motor be more efficient. Look in the website and you'll see that in the regular version doesn't say regenerative capabilities anywhere. But it does on the plus.
@@dacp09 Rattan tells me that both bikes are identical and can have regenerative capabilities if they have the color LCD display which unlocks these features. Fat Bear is free rolling with no drag and no regeneration using the monochrome display. Using the color LCD display the bike will have some drag but also unlock those regenerative capabilities.
Hi, Jason Thanks for reaching out to us! We are sorry that the description on the website has caused you some misinformation. The fat Bear and Fat Bear Plus have "nothing different" except for the display. And the reason we named them into two different models is because of this little dsiplay makes things a big different. When we designed fat bear, we defined it as an energy efficient electric bike, so we tried to limit the output power of the motor and all the external components that could consume the battery as much as possible on the premise of satisfying the rider's needs. We did our best to let it reach to a longer miles range and we did it. Yes, the fat bear has the regenerative feature, but we shut it down because we knew it will drag you down. (In order to ensure charging efficiency, the drag force will not be small and ignored, and you will have a noticeable slowing down feeling) But we also know that some customers like off road, they need stronger power and faster speed. So we lauched the Plus version. ( We sent it to EBR to make a review.) We lifted the motor output limit and activated regenerative features. We know it's better for people who like new things and are willing to try them. We always want people to try our regenerative features even it has some although it has some negative effects, because we firmly believe that this technology may be widely used in electric bicycles in the future. And the key to open all these features is the color dsiplay. You need it to activate all the features. You will get more fun, more power and more choices with it. Again, we are sorry for the misleading description on our website and will update them ASAP. And your bike has been shipped out and we can send you a free color display for the test if you like. Looking forward to your reply. Rattan Ebike Store www.rattanebike.com
Backed the Mate X and this bike has similar features. The battery on the Mate X is 750 ms and the HUD display on this bike review is also reminiscent to the the Mate X. I’m wondering if this was a manufacturer that had lifted the Mate X designs due to the tariff wars that had happened to Chinese manufacturers which is why the campaigners for the Mate X move their production to Taiwan avoiding the trade wars between US and China.
For a fat tire bike with a 48 v. battery and full suspension I would guess the 50 lbs. listed on Rattan's site is not accurate- it's probably more like the 59.2 lbs. As listed on EBRs site. Fifty lbs. sound too good to be true. Add fenders ,a rack(?), and a suspension seat post and you're probably looking at 60+ lbs. But I could be wrong. I wish e bike websites didn't fudge on their stats to make them their products look better!
I BELIEVE the original... Wow the Chenglish is .... I love this REVIEW and bike at 1.5x and $1100. The EXTERNAL charging if existent begs for 150 watt panel THAT OBVIOUSLY can offend purists being left at base with SPARE to allow swapping upon return. Offend I say because a backpack mounted disruptive active design can charge it WHILE DISCONNECTED on your back breaking WITH CAUSE DUH FURTHER many rules of efficiency but further enabling the five pounds (19 gross) of air in those big-bag-'ROLLINGFEET' to slush GLEEFULLY ENABLED BEYOND BODYTISSUE CAPACITY around on. Silence and simpler motor being more reliable and also silent from slower SPEED as the video of in motor transmission for a 7 year old tesla showed emphasises bikes optimise 🔋 option in FACT stretchy-sketchy green if it ALL to in be seen. The pedals have the transmisison. Mid transmission is optimal. Battery extends range. Motor recovers gravitationally WORK of climbing. Human standup as Biden sings STANDUP GETUP GET OVER HILL than let battery give you a brEAk as you spend what it braking downhill as you would of anyway destroying pads wasting body energy Braking into heat without even 🍫 to melt. NITROGEN should be in tires or foam which again is an insert at THESE low pressures. Foam that is LOW heating and long lasting. I also wonder about tire elasticity if you use noncompressible fluid in tires say for a electrolyte to provide an extra or integral kwh from each wheel and ADDITIONAL speed stabilty centrifical stability and WOW just blowup heads making brain matter messes with wtf'ing fools 🌐 askin WHY!!!
TH-cam does not have my edits until revision is approved so that retroactively apparently reverts them if i add edits and resave Here is most recent edits from old version:" I BELIEVE the original... Wow the Chenglish is .... I love this REVIEW and bike at 1.5x PLAY speed and compellingly competitive $1100. The EXTERNAL charging -if existent- begs for 150 watt photon driven panel THAT OBVIOUSLY can offend purists being left at husbanded basecamp with SPARE to allow swapping upon return. Offend I say because a 🎒 mounted disruptive active design can charge it on your back breaking many rules of efficiency but further enabling the five pounds (_19_ 'PSI@'SEABEACH' 😝!) of air in those big bags to slush around on. Silence and simpler motor being more reliable and also silent from slower SPEED as the video of in motor transmission for a 7 year old tesla showed emphasises bikes optimise 🔋 option in FACT stretchy-sketchy green if it ALL to in be seen. The pedals have the transmisison. Mid transmission is optimal. Battery extends range. Motor recovers gravitationally WORK of climbing. Human standup as Biden sings STANDUP GETUP GET OVER HILL than let battery give you a brEAk as you spend what it braking downhill as you would of anyway destroying pads wasting body energy Braking into heat without even 🍫 to melt. NITROGEN should be in tires or foam which again is an insert at THESE low pressures. Foam that is LOW heating and long lasting. I also wonder about tire elasticity if you use noncompressible fluid in tires say for a electrolyte to provide an extra or integral kwh from each wheel and ADDITIONAL speed stabilty centrifical stability and WOW just blowup heads making brain matter messes with wtf'ing fools 🌐 askin WHY!!!
Hi Andrew, I don't know the exact situation for the Fat Bear. Bikes have been sold out at a lot of places because of COVID causing shipping delays and high demand with people wanting to be outside but also social distance.
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
No charging port on the battery... then you showed the USB port to charge the phone on the side of the display, but never showed the actual charging port...
This bike doesn't exist anymore or it is now Yamee Fat bear and cost $1899. I think it's time TH-cam does a cleanse of videos that are no longer relevant.
You site says this bike will go 40 to 60 miles with a 750 watt peak output . Wrong bike, even though they do look exactly the same. They gave you the wrong specs. It all comes clear now that they came out with the plus version yesterday. And your review you don't say "Fat Bear Plus" verbally. You keep saying "Fat Bear" which was all that they had until yesterday. Very unclear! You were there only marketing mouthpiece
I regret buying this bike and after less than 20 miles I’m trying to sell it at a steep loss. This bike is incredibly frustrating to ride. The pedal assist doesn’t fully kick in on hills and the throttle cuts off immediately when you pedal so even a tiny hill and you’re on your own. I own two rad bikes and an Ancheer and those have been fine. Avoid.
Won't be listening to Anymore of your reviews. You took their money and the customers are screwed. We are not getting what we paid for. Do more homework. We are all getting winzip brakes and not samsung batteries. I bought this based off your review. Won't let that happen again. Your reviews not worth a thing.
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Hey guys, Rattan’s price for this model is actually $1499, and not $1399 as mistakenly said at 0:45 in the video. Sorry about that!
A bit confusing. I purchased the pre-order Fat Bear and thought I was getting the bike you reviewed. There was only one fat bear on Rattan.com untill today. It would have been much more clear if you could have had both bikes to review at the same time together. The misunderstanding about the price and color display, distance it can go was all confusing. I thought you were talking about the same bike I bought.They just put the fat bear Plus on their site today for sale at $1.500 before the presale discount. Now I wish that I would have waited. I hope that they will let me upgrade before my bikie is shipped out on the 15th. The 40 to 60 miles statistic has now upgraded with the plus version too. They now say that the New Fat Bear Plus that they posted on pre-order today will go 70 to 90 miles on a single charge.
Your were right first - it's now on sale for $1399 with an extra $300 off with coupon code displayed on same page. Nice review.
@@mobealeCorrect, that is the price for the Fat Bear but the Fat Bear Plus is one hundred dollars more.
I like this one. I would like it more if it had the accessory selection as the Mate X.
How good is this kind of suspension? I have a spinal injury and I am thinking something like this might be a good mobility aid. I am wondering about the shocks, because jolts to the spine in a car or on the bus are one of the worst things for me. Also, is this the typical price, or can these features be found for less? I just need reliability, folding and good suspension, but not all the computer stuff. I am hoping to get back to uni and finish my degree, but have not been able to find a way to deal with the mobility issues yet (Auckland uni is only a 10-15 minute walk from home that I can do occasionally at a push, but had to stop going because I just could not do that walk daily). An e-bike with good shocks might just be the solution.
The shock probably has 30 mm of compression. That's not the same as suspension travel. That bike has a Horst link design so it's likely 3.25:1 leverage ratio. Meaning around 100 mm of vertical rear wheel travel.
Rattan emailed the FedEx tracking number for my Fat Bear this morning. They also sent an email clarifying more of how the system operates. They informed me that with the Color LCD monitor the system does not actually have any drag in it when in mode 2 or 3. When in mode 0 or 1 pedaling, going down hill when reaching a speed of 18mph or greater the rider will experience some drag resistance in the system. This resistance is the regeneration capabilities kicking in and working converting kinetic energy and storing it in the battery for more miles per charge. Amazing!
Hey Clifford. Thanks for clarifying that. That sounds great I was wondering if the regenerative system was on all the time.
@@dacp09 You're Welcome David
Hey Clifford-glad it's on the way. I ordered one yesterday and noticed they immediately placed it on "shipped" but I see it's only "on paper" or "preshipment". Hopefully I'll receive a tracking number in the next couple of days. If you want to do a review here or even make an unboxing video I'd love to see it. Good luck.
@@mobeale I'm getting mine on the 17th I'll do an unboxing for you guys to see
@@mobeale I received the same email immediately after I made the purchase marking shipping to be fulfilled but with no FedEx tracking number. I wasn't too concerned about that at first because the website stated at that time that the pre-order bikes would be shipped out on Oct 15th. Then when they added the new fat bear plus bike to the website and I asked them if I could upgrade to it they replied that I could not upgrade because my bike had already been shipped out but that they would send me the color LCD display free, so that I can make my Fat Bear into the plus version. I told them that I needed my FedEx tracking number as their website says that they will send this info. The next day they were able to provide me with the FedEx tracking number and the shipment has been shipped out that very same day from California not actually even Canada according to FedEx. I have no idea what is going on with all of that? You may very well want to ask them where your FedEx tracking number is. Maybe I will do an unboxing on here. I know I will be making a video of it. I will continue to put updates on here. I just want to help clarify and show the truth of my buying experience.
Pretty good review. Really appreciate the longer and mixed terrain ride test rather than 2 minutes on a lawn or sidewalk. Unfortunately I jus ordered my folding spark last night so I hadn’t even heard of this one. Thanks
Its like the mate x but hopefully they deliver!! Love it full suspension, good price,change my mind
I appreciate that you took the bike on some challenging trails instead of just a parking lot. Also great that you had both hands on the bars instead of trying to hold a camera with one. That’s always irked me with the other reviews. This is much more helpful and realistic . I’ve backed the Juiced HyperScorpion and I can’t wait to get it in March but this looks like a great choice for an off-road bike. The main reason I went for the Scorpion is the full suspension. My current folding ebike only has front suspension and those long rides can really start to feel long!
i bought an ebike almost identical to this in the Ebay UK under the Chinese brand Paselec. 1400 Pounds. Come with a rear rack, and full set of mudguards, 750W geared hub motor, (by the way the one in this video is geared as well. 100% about this). The bike is great
This review is a bit out of date. The Fat Bear is now sold under the Yamee brand, does include the fenders and rack and lights and choice of 750 or 500W.
Blue, green, or a silver-grey. Strongly considering buying.
Did you buy it? What’s your take
@@FinneyRaju No, I bought the very similar but bigger wheeled Wallke X3. See my channel for a couple videos on it.
Great review. Courtney is awesome also, but it's really nice for me to hear a tall guy's perspective on a bike like this.
Hey guys! Awesome review. I was wondering why isn't this review posted on your channel? I couldn't find it anywhere. Thanks for the great content.
Hi David! This will be published on the channel soon, we sometimes have to wait a few days so that we don't publish a bunch in one day and saturate the channel.
@@TysonRoehrkasse Hi Tyson! Perfect thanks for the reply. Loved the review by the way. This review helped me decide for this bike so we'll see how it goes.
Great review...didn't think about those cords sticking out while off road, and the torque off road, etc. Looks fun!
Apparently the lesser bike does not even have regeneration capability without the color display. Their website led me to believe that it would at the time of my purchase. They say I can't upgrade bikes because mine has already shipped although I did not receive shipping confirmation or FedEx tracking information yet as their site say I will.
What you think about the new name for this bike? Yamme? Interested in a bike I can take some small jumps and have some urban fun but now new company higher price and I'm just waiting for some direction. Thank you as always
Same here.
Very good video. You explaining several things I wanted to know about my new e-bike.
Nice video - seems like this Rattan, Yamee XL, GDS, Polarna M6 are the same bikes - yes / no?
ya I like the fact that it has regenerative charging i have the mate x with a 750 watt motor and my biggest complaint is you have no way of charging while riding. I took my bike on a 20 mile trip with some huge up hills and downhill and I couldn't make it home towing my daughter in a stroller
Regeneration is just showing voltage which WILL go up and down with throttle use etc.
I read that mostly regen in general is only 5% effective which is pretty terrible lol.
Like the idea of fat tyres and suspension but I ride in wet and there is a lot of brocken glass about so might not really be very good?
You should move, riding often in wet conditions and broken glass everywhere sounds like you live in a eastern block shit hole
Pretty thorough review, good job!
Does the use of tire slime adversely affect one's ability to drop the tire pressure for off-road riding?
The rattan web site spec for the FAt Bear +
is A Drive Motor:
48V 500W I-PAS system dedicated motor.
But I got A 36 volt 350 watt motor.
I call the support # and its not working.
I E-mail Support No response.
Did everything work out? What happened?
Another great review. most of the bikes you review are past my budget, but I enjoy the channel. I have a Ancheer 250w I ride about everyday. I have an Lectric xp on the way.
What’s the best an lightest electric bike in your opinion ? Thx
gates belt and brighten the display (a lot)... is there a market for a foldable extreme riding bike?
Just Got My Fat Bear Plus Bike. Looks like its well built, Just have some issue's .
I am not able to remove my battery. The key only moves the pin 1/8 way and the battery will not come out. Also I ordered
this bike using the Ratan web site specifications, Unfortunately
I did not receive what I was promised . These are just (2)
1.Battery: 48V 11.6AH lithium battery with Samsung 18650-29e cells
2. Motor: 48V 500W I-PAS system dedicated motor.
I can't confirm # 1 because I can't get the batter out!
#2 The motor that I received say's its a 36 volt 350 watt motor.
That's like buying a V8 car and only getting a V6. I have called the 24 hours tech phone line & it says leave a message.
I have left several phone messages and E-Mails with no response.
So with no Customer support I am sure that there is also no warranty either.
Big Disappointment.
Were you able to work everything out? And how's the bike? Do you like it?
If pulse width modulator was used, the bike would be able to slow down by how much charge is sent to the battery. I would put this feature on an ebike.
Rattan has been attentive to my questions and concerns so far, although they say that my bike has already been shipped I've not received any FedEx tracking number yet. This is definitely huge concern that I am waiting for them to resolve now.
Please let us know what happens?? Thanks
@@Xenumiscagive In my case they did let me upgrade to the plus version and they first say that the bikes were going to be shipped on the 15th but i just got my FedEx tracking number I should be getting the bike on the 17th. So far this company has a great customer service. Hope this helps you
@@dacp09 it really does,thanks sir
Rattan emailed my FedEx tracking number for my Fat Bear this morning.
@@cliffordjason3746 thanks sir,this bike is like the mate x but 1,000$ less,and they deliver
Nice review. The wiring is fairly sloppy and the Cadence sensor should have a 90 degree wire connection. I would rather have a city/urban bike with the regen though.
I am new to this whole E-bike thing , but it seems to me the best way to go about shopping as a " new bee " is to go backwards and find out the best battery's , as I will want my power to be reliable and cost effective ? I am seeing 300 to 400 ish for most .... but the sleeve ones like this I see on amazon for 110 eb-7 to 160 ish for the Swagtron EB-8 Outlaw ?
Wondering if we're just using the throttle if it's gradual to build up to speed or if it's sudden. Any help out there thanks
Why would you review a ebike that is not out yet but looks identical to one being sold, call it same name and give it the specs for the one being sold, not specifying any difference between the two bikes besides the different displays? Very misleading until yesterday when the new bike actually came out.
Great review, keep up the good work.....
I agree, visually that wad of cables is quite distracting and a snag hazard.
This bike looks just like the Eahora X5. Like exactly alike. What’s up with that?
Well, looking at the Eahora X5, no, they don't look exactly alike, so looks like nothing is up with that.
I've been looking at ebikes all day and there's quite a few looking almost exactly like this, the Fiido m1 for example
@@rozgonya "almost exactly" must have a very loose definition for you because, as an example, the rear suspension and geometry are very different.
Would be a no brainer to buy this one if it had fenders, but I'll be going with Lectric XP just for that reason.
How about that the Lectric XP is a far better value for the money?
I bought my e-bike last October for $1050, one similar to the XP, and it too seems a much better value than the Rattan Fat Bear Plus.
Eahora has fenders and rack. All the same features or better and same price.
I ordered 2 of these ebikes. First, they sent the wrong ebikes, they sent the ones with a rack and fenders. 1 ebike was the wrong color, but I figured its ok that they sent the wrong ebikes. But then 1 was the wrong color, the other ebike came with no seat and the other ebike throttle dont work.
I texted them twice and the third time, my text came back with a problem and I could never email them anymore. Tried to call, and the number is now inoperable. Thats where Im at now, wondering what to do.
I live in denver what motor should I get 750 or 500 for the up hills
Lectric XP vs Rattan What are you thoughts 💭
Like the rattan better, faster, built better, derailleur guard ,only thing it needs is a fender
I have a lectric and 28 on fat tires is great but im thinking about getting this or juice idk lol
@Anthony Ross Marino Aside from Lectric being cheaper, what else makes it "a lot" nicer than the Fat Bear? Fat Bear regens, has hydraulic breaks, better battery, suspension fork, rear shock, color lcd, usb port, better materials, now also comes with fenders and rear rack (renamed as Yamee).
I would highly recommend avoiding this company. They are not a legit company, it’s like 2 Chinese people selling bikes online. The product came missing parts which I couldn’t get and the materials broke within a week. Their was no warranty to speak of. I reported them to US consumer affairs
which one lectric or fatbear, wonder if interchangable parts.
I love my lectric honestly but this caught my eye lectric is deff a very good e bike but the range on this beats it but i belive the lectric faster
@@kennywilliams7770 both 28mph
I think I like the Eahora which is very similar.
Based the on the recommendation I bought the FatBear on 10/12/19. Quick delivery but the hydraulic rear brake was leaking. No replacement from the company yet. Does anyone have there phone number? I will update this situation continues. However, this is the nightmare of online bike sales. Support your local bike shop - I knew better.
Number 626 8103550 on website
Did they resolve this for you? I'm between this and the juiced scrambler but support is a big deal to me
any updates?
I've seen a bike online that looks exactly like this called the yume x8. How do they compare?
They are actually the same manufacturer. I'm comparing them now. Yamee has a rear rack and taillight but I hear the PAS isn't so great uphill, I'm wondering if that's something that's adjustable?
I heard they went out of business? Is this correct?
Where you buy it?
The tires make it the best bike 2020 I love it
What helmet is that?
48V 11.6AH HIDDEN BATTERY WITH SAMSUNG 2900 CELLS
The rugged aluminum alloy frame includes a hidden battery pack used Samsung 2900 cells capable of delivering over 60 miles per charge using pedal assist or around 40 miles on throttle-only mode.
These are statistics listed for the Fat Bear on rattanebike.com the last I checked just a few minutes ago. This is still very confusing to me. Does the Fat Bear travel 40 to 60 miles with the monochrome display or 70 to 90 miles?
Guys I got the bike it's awesome but they send me the wrong screen. I contacted rattan already I'm waiting on a response. Also it came with a small scratch
Good, please review for setting fork suspensi
Anyone know if this color display will work on the Rattan LF-750 to get the regen features?
Why didn't Rattan inform you that the Fat Bear being sold at the time of your review would not have regenerative capabilities without that display? Rattanebike.com boasted that it would have those capabilities and that was the sole reason that I purchased it.
He did say that the model he was reviewing was different. He even mentioned the plus version. And he asked rattan about why the pictures on the website showed a different LCD display.
@@dacp09 Correct, he said that the plus version was the display. Rattan tels me that this display unlocks the regenerative capabilities. The bike being sold at the time did not have this display but it was marketed on rattanebike.com to have the regenerative capability. The bike reviewed had an estimated 40 to 60 mile range per charge. The Fat Bear Plus has an estimated 70 to 90 mile range per charge.
@@cliffordjason3746 ok you have to understand that IPAS it's not the name of the regenerative capabilities. That's the name of the technology that they have to make the motor be more efficient. Look in the website and you'll see that in the regular version doesn't say regenerative capabilities anywhere. But it does on the plus.
@@dacp09 Rattan tells me that both bikes are identical and can have regenerative capabilities if they have the color LCD display which unlocks these features. Fat Bear is free rolling with no drag and no regeneration using the monochrome display. Using the color LCD display the bike will have some drag but also unlock those regenerative capabilities.
Hi, Jason
Thanks for reaching out to us!
We are sorry that the description on the website has caused you some misinformation.
The fat Bear and Fat Bear Plus have "nothing different" except for the display. And the reason we named them into two different models is because of this little dsiplay makes things a big different.
When we designed fat bear, we defined it as an energy efficient electric bike, so we tried to limit the output power of the motor and all the external components that could consume the battery as much as possible on the premise of satisfying the rider's needs. We did our best to let it reach to a longer miles range and we did it. Yes, the fat bear has the regenerative feature, but we shut it down because we knew it will drag you down. (In order to ensure charging efficiency, the drag force will not be small and ignored, and you will have a noticeable slowing down feeling)
But we also know that some customers like off road, they need stronger power and faster speed. So we lauched the Plus version. ( We sent it to EBR to make a review.) We lifted the motor output limit and activated regenerative features. We know it's better for people who like new things and are willing to try them. We always want people to try our regenerative features even it has some although it has some negative effects, because we firmly believe that this technology may be widely used in electric bicycles in the future. And the key to open all these features is the color dsiplay. You need it to activate all the features. You will get more fun, more power and more choices with it.
Again, we are sorry for the misleading description on our website and will update them ASAP.
And your bike has been shipped out and we can send you a free color display for the test if you like.
Looking forward to your reply.
Rattan Ebike Store
www.rattanebike.com
Leaves the thing in 4th gear, and in soupy mud "As you can see, it really doesn't climb very well" 😂😂
Nice for a folder 👍👍
whats the maximum speed this bike goes?
Glad to see somebody else asked that question. Really kind of suspicious there was no speed test. Everybody saying great review. It actually sucked
Why does this look exactly like the Yamee fat bear? Are they the same company?
Backed the Mate X and this bike has similar features. The battery on the Mate X is 750 ms and the HUD display on this bike review is also reminiscent to the the Mate X. I’m wondering if this was a manufacturer that had lifted the Mate X designs due to the tariff wars that had happened to Chinese manufacturers which is why the campaigners for the Mate X move their production to Taiwan avoiding the trade wars between US and China.
They sure did have you describe and make those two bikes alike apart from the display.
Does anyone have a true weight for the Plus model? Specs says 50 lb but that sounds light for suspension bike.
For a fat tire bike with a 48 v. battery and full suspension I would guess the 50 lbs. listed on Rattan's site is not accurate- it's probably more like the 59.2 lbs. As listed on EBRs site. Fifty lbs. sound too good to be true. Add fenders ,a rack(?), and a suspension seat post and you're probably looking at 60+ lbs. But I could be wrong. I wish e bike websites didn't fudge on their stats to make them their products look better!
Mine is exactly 50 lbs with the battery. I didn't trust the website either so I actually weighed the Fat Bear Plus on my basement scale.
@@AdnanKhan-ck6ng So how is the bike? Would you recommend it? What's the good and bad about the bike?
will it work in the rain?
it’s electric of course not
What is your inseam?
what is the fastest this bike goes just on motor alone and no pedaling? I can't find this info on the site.
Well, it’s gotta be Class 2, so 20mph Throttle Only.
Onyx goes 60mph
The company website says it's sold out :(
Will they post to the uk
I BELIEVE the original... Wow the Chenglish is ....
I love this REVIEW and bike at 1.5x and $1100.
The EXTERNAL charging if existent begs for 150 watt panel THAT OBVIOUSLY can offend purists being left at base with SPARE to allow swapping upon return. Offend I say because a backpack mounted disruptive active design can charge it WHILE DISCONNECTED on your back breaking WITH CAUSE DUH FURTHER many rules of efficiency but further enabling the five pounds (19 gross) of air in those big-bag-'ROLLINGFEET' to slush GLEEFULLY ENABLED BEYOND BODYTISSUE CAPACITY around on.
Silence and simpler motor being more reliable and also silent from slower SPEED as the video of in motor transmission for a 7 year old tesla showed emphasises bikes optimise 🔋 option in FACT stretchy-sketchy green if it ALL to in be seen.
The pedals have the transmisison. Mid transmission is optimal. Battery extends range. Motor recovers gravitationally WORK of climbing. Human standup as Biden sings STANDUP GETUP GET OVER HILL than let battery give you a brEAk as you spend what it braking downhill as you would of anyway destroying pads wasting body energy Braking into heat without even 🍫 to melt.
NITROGEN should be in tires or foam which again is an insert at THESE low pressures. Foam that is LOW heating and long lasting. I also wonder about tire elasticity if you use noncompressible fluid in tires say for a electrolyte to provide an extra or integral kwh from each wheel and ADDITIONAL speed stabilty centrifical stability and WOW just blowup heads making brain matter messes with wtf'ing fools 🌐 askin WHY!!!
TH-cam does not have my edits until revision is approved so that retroactively apparently reverts them if i add edits and resave
Here is most recent edits from old version:" I BELIEVE the original... Wow the Chenglish is ....
I love this REVIEW and bike at 1.5x PLAY speed and compellingly competitive $1100.
The EXTERNAL charging -if existent- begs for 150 watt photon driven panel THAT OBVIOUSLY can offend purists being left at husbanded basecamp with SPARE to allow swapping upon return. Offend I say because a 🎒 mounted disruptive active design can charge it on your back breaking many rules of efficiency but further enabling the five pounds (_19_ 'PSI@'SEABEACH' 😝!) of air in those big bags to slush around on.
Silence and simpler motor being more reliable and also silent from slower SPEED as the video of in motor transmission for a 7 year old tesla showed emphasises bikes optimise 🔋 option in FACT stretchy-sketchy green if it ALL to in be seen.
The pedals have the transmisison. Mid transmission is optimal. Battery extends range. Motor recovers gravitationally WORK of climbing. Human standup as Biden sings STANDUP GETUP GET OVER HILL than let battery give you a brEAk as you spend what it braking downhill as you would of anyway destroying pads wasting body energy Braking into heat without even 🍫 to melt.
NITROGEN should be in tires or foam which again is an insert at THESE low pressures. Foam that is LOW heating and long lasting. I also wonder about tire elasticity if you use noncompressible fluid in tires say for a electrolyte to provide an extra or integral kwh from each wheel and ADDITIONAL speed stabilty centrifical stability and WOW just blowup heads making brain matter messes with wtf'ing fools 🌐 askin WHY!!!
Nice Review
Anyone know what helmet Tyson is wearing in this video?
What helmet are you wearing?
The Serfas Kilowatt: www.serfas.com/shop/products/helmets/ht-500-504-kilowatt-e-bike-helmet/
RATTAN FAT BEAR SPECIFICS
Battery: 48V 11.6AH lithium battery with Samsung 18650-29e cells
Motor: 48V 500W I-PAS system dedicated motor
Maximum speed: 25 MPH
Charger: US standard 48V 2A smart charger, DC plug
Charging time: 4-5 hours
Mileage: 70-90 miles
Display: 48V 4.3inch M5 LCD display
Freewheel: Shimano CS-HG31-8 casette freewheel
Transmission: Shimano SL-M310, 8 speed
Fork: 20inch alloy spring with adjustable and lock out ,suspension fork
Frame: 20inch alloy foldable frame
Rear shock: 1000pd alloy rear shock
Brake lever: Alloy brake lever with electric cut-off
Brake: front and rear 180mm hydraulic disc brake with alloy caliper
Tires: ChaoYang 20*4.0 all terrain tire
Product Weight: 50 lbs
Maximum payload weight limit: 330lbs
Recommend rider heights: 5'3" - 6'4"

70 to 90 miles! Wow, Exciting!
Copied and pasted from rattanebike.com
Why can’t be charging when riding?
pfffff they are like 2000 now....not even in stock and rather difficult to get...thanks but no thanks
Early bird get the worm
Trying to get parts for the bike very hard
How can i get it
Can you get these shipped to uk
This is not on sale write now I can’t even ordered I don’t know what is going on they are not in phone connection
Hi Andrew, I don't know the exact situation for the Fat Bear. Bikes have been sold out at a lot of places because of COVID causing shipping delays and high demand with people wanting to be outside but also social distance.
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
I bought electric hot e-bike mountain bike on Amazon no more bike store is the best to get one
No charging port on the battery... then you showed the USB port to charge the phone on the side of the display, but never showed the actual charging port...
Good luck folding the bike without those messy cables sticking out.
Tjakepzzz... Nice...
IPAS is genius
Bike looks awesome.But deal breakers ..Bad display,rear rack and no fenders..Can get other bikes with all this round same price if no cheaper...
color displays are bad idea
Enki & Enlil I’m looking at getting this bike. Just curious why is the color display a bad idea ?
@@craigslegendaryrocknrollco5423 having ridden two bikes with color displays, nothing really, they are perfectly readable even in direct sunlight
This bike doesn't exist anymore or it is now Yamee Fat bear and cost $1899. I think it's time TH-cam does a cleanse of videos that are no longer relevant.
Coool bike wow the coolest
Lovely👌
The super narrow handlebars are a dealbreaker.
My Fat Bear arrived all scratched up with gouges and chunks missing out of the paint too. What a bummer! photos.app.goo.gl/ZQprzjMWaCRzPtom6
Great bike for the $$
You site says this bike will go 40 to 60 miles with a 750 watt peak output . Wrong bike, even though they do look exactly the same. They gave you the wrong specs. It all comes clear now that they came out with the plus version yesterday. And your review you don't say "Fat Bear Plus" verbally. You keep saying "Fat Bear" which was all that they had until yesterday. Very unclear! You were there only marketing mouthpiece
Please check out the Mate X Bike.
Many greetings from Cologne Germany
does not seem like the bike does not have that much power!
I regret buying this bike and after less than 20 miles I’m trying to sell it at a steep loss. This bike is incredibly frustrating to ride. The pedal assist doesn’t fully kick in on hills and the throttle cuts off immediately when you pedal so even a tiny hill and you’re on your own. I own two rad bikes and an Ancheer and those have been fine. Avoid.
Won't be listening to Anymore of your reviews. You took their money and the customers are screwed. We are not getting what we paid for. Do more homework. We are all getting winzip brakes and not samsung batteries. I bought this based off your review. Won't let that happen again. Your reviews not worth a thing.
A+++++++
And remember its Canadian so its big foot friendly
Sure it's not Ontario, CAlifornia?
Ur right
The like that changed it from the mark of the beast... Not on my watch
slime is garbage. stans notubes sealant actually works.
Why the Fuck is there no Shipping to Europe or Uk?
Ever ride a bike before?
Rude
This is a bad review just my opinion....I enjoy your videos but you just made the rattan look bad to purchase
Jay State what did he say specifically that was “bad?”
Everything you want me to tell you🤗
Jay State ok tell me everything. What did he say wrong?
all that suspension with the fat tires deserves 45mph
First
Nice! Thanks for your support :D