Should You Attend a Caribbean Medical School?
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- What do you call a Caribbean medical student who graduates from the bottom of their class? Unemployed. The internet is filled with rumors and half-truths about Caribbean medical schools. I experienced it first hand and got through to the other side by successfully matching into a residency position. My video goes through objective data about Caribbean medical schools and the intrinsic risks associated with attending one.
➪ Check out my blog post for more details I don't cover in this video:www.mykittykatz.com/should-you...
I went out with a guy that went to the one in st maarten. I also worked with a resident that went there. Both seemed really smart and the guy I worked with is a great physician. Sounds like a great place to attend. Study on the beach . It’s ok if you don’t get accepted. You aren’t a failure. If medicine is what you want keep going and don’t give up. Success most of the time depends on your drive. Great video
Great video! Super informative 👍
Nice to see a channel and learn about caribbean medical school! i go to a canadian medical school so i like seeing the differences in programs
Ur fuckin awesome dude thanks for uploading hope to see you in hospital at some point down the road. Congrats on fellowship also!
Very well articulated and informative bro. Thanks
The newest IMG match rate was 61.4% per NRMP... Not great but certainly improving.
Great video! I just would like to add that college aged med students applying to med school should definitely aim on attending US med schools as the quality is at a higher level and, like you mentioned, the match rate. Caribbean school are okay but it may be better tailored for people pursuing medicine as a second career later in their life. IMO but don't take it from me.
Just stumbled upon your channel, I’m at SGU and it’s nice to see you make it through the path I want to go through in cardiology. Any tips for improving your CV/finding mentors?
Be kind, work hard, and don’t be afraid to ask for help or for what you need when looking for a mentor!
Thank you ❤️🙏🏻
Thank you!!
That was great, thank u
Can you please do a video about undergrad and your stats and extracurriculars, etc.?
Great idea. Subscribe so you don't miss it!
Hi I know there are couple of Caribbean medical schools but I was thinking of IHUS - would that be a good option considering I wanted to continue my job first two years?
To be blunt- I had never heard of IHUS and had to google it. That both speaks to the fact that I don't know that much about that institution specifically but also that it isn't one of the 'big name' schools. The biggest factor I would look at when choosing a Caribbean medical school is their residency match rate. So I would specifically look for those numbers and compare them to other Caribbean programs.
As for working during your first two years of medical school- I wouldn't. I understand everyone's financial circumstances are different but medical school should be your full time job. It was for me. 4-5 hours of lectures daily followed by 4-5 hours of notes and studying. I don't think working while in medical school would be a wise decision but you have to figure that out for yourself.
Can you make a video how you started your journey to med school and how was the program was. Do they require undergrad appreciate the information on here thanks
abdi I can work on it but short story is most of that info can be found on each school’s site. Most require minimum pre med requirements
Is the IMG’s 57% the average for all Caribbean schools? Doesn’t Ross have closely to a 90% average match rate?
Peter Nasr 57% is for ALL US-citizen IMG’s. That includes both Caribbean and elsewhere. So not just Ross and also not just Caribbean. Ross University states on their site that they have upwards of a 90% first time match rate. I imagine they are not lying but maybe they also aren’t telling the full truth. Specifically, I would like to know how many people who enroll in a Caribbean medical school fail or drop out and why
I haven’t exactly been living under a rock, but I had no idea what you meant when talking about this “match”, or “matching” process… You might want to give some explanation for that first. The other thing was the intermittent loss of signal tap flashing was very distracting I don’t know what that’s for, but you could do without it.
Flashing because of poor editing. Thankfully no longer an issue. Feedback noted!
Is AAIMS medical school in Jamaica is good or bad 🤔🤔
Awesome video! I actually was surprised to hear that US medicine discriminates against Caribbean med students! The training is still the same! They should have the same opportunities!
training is NOT the same
Dee Depends on how one defines training. Same bookwork, similar lectures...yes. Instruction style may be different in the classroom, but this also applies to different instructors in the same school.
Clinical skills training, however, is going to vary the most between schools based on technology access, standardized patient experiences, and local clinic access. One might predict Caribbean medical schools perform worse or have limited access to those resources, but this is not the case with Ross University or St. George University.
It's dumb because np are lobbying for md jobs
Any info on st james?
how do you feel about the usmle change grading systm from points to p/f . will this help the instigma on img
Firstly, the ‘stigma’ in day to day life isn’t a thing. Doctors aren’t looked down upon for going to a Caribbean school or being an IMG or FMG. Second, if someone does look down at you for going that route then that individual can go lick paint for all I care.
To answer your original question- only time will tell. Ivy League programs that never looked at Caribbean grads will likely continue to avoid us and programs who are open to taking us for residency positions will continue to. I think there are many other issues at play when it comes to the residency match process and changing a test that was never made to be a measuring stick back to its original intended purpose of being a pass/fail measure only treats one of the many underlying problems.
Program directors can still see what you got on your USMLE. It’ll just be more work if they have to sift you out by hand. Or they can place more pressure on step 2 CK. Either way IMO nothing has changed. Crush your exams.
Even though I'm not a medical student, it was a greatly informative talk!
Hi doc! This video is so informative. First I would thank you🙏🙏 giving such valuable information. I am currently studying in carraebian medical school called Windsor university school of medicine, st.kitts. I am willing to get transfer to st.george r st.xavier. is the transfer from one medical school to other will effect the residency matching???
I am willing to transfer to other medical school after my step 1.
I don’t have objective data to back it up but I doubt it. Caribbean is Caribbean
There are plenty of US students that do not get match as well.
There are but the numbers don’t lie. There are FAR fewer US grads who don’t match compared with US and non-US IMG’s
What about schools like Saint George's University?
Kendrick Zuo SGU is a Caribbean medical school and grads are considered IMG’s
@@MarcKatzMD I know. I meant shouldn't the match rate for Saint George's university be higher due to its high reputation?
Kendrick Zuo unfortunately it doesn’t matter if you’re the best in the Caribbean or the worst in the Caribbean. Caribbean is Caribbean
Is the outcome (chance of residency in the US) going to be even worse if I go to a medical school in China?
Kendrick Zuo I’m not certain. You will still be in the same category as either a US IMG or non-US IMG. But I don’t believe it will help
Your IG follower here.
Is victoria university is good for medical studies?
Nimra Ali I’ve never heard of Victoria University. Is that a medical school? Where is it located?
@@MarcKatzMD caribbean
@@MarcKatzMD plz guide me ?
Seeing as how it is (1) a Caribbean school and (2) a Caribbean school I’ve never heard of I would advise against going there. But then again it might be a fantastic school that will give you a great education. I simply don’t know
@@MarcKatzMD suggest me good medical school in caribbean?
It's true. I got a 260 on step 1 and 270 on step 2, did multiple research projects as a medical student, had very close relationships with attendings that allowed me to get great letters and I didn't even get my choice in INTERNAL MEDICINE. If there is ANY OPTION other than caribbean, don't do it.
what did you get into?
Salaan Sare I think she may be saying that she didn’t get her top IM choice, more likely her 2nd or 3rd IM program choice.
Is your father Marc Katz?
Hey I am an Indian medical aspirant and I want to come to carribean medical schools for my Medical studies. There is one particular caribbean medical school, Spartan health & Science university in st. Lucia which is getting crazy promoted in my country by a lot of admission agents. I heard many of their grads are actually doing good and working as a physician in many states of the US. Is this university legitimately good for my prospects of my future as a doctor in US? I am confused and sceptic that I might be fooled by these admission agents, so I might ask it from an actual expert. Will appreciate your help and response 🙂
AMJ hey bud! Its smart of you to question the people selling you on a Caribbean medical school. First, I don’t doubt that graduates of Spartan May in fact be practicing in the US. But I would specifically want to know how many of the individuals who start semester 1 with similar demographics as you end of matching in the US, The caveat being that anyone can manipulate statistics. So I want to know not just their match rate but how many people fail out of their school. On top of that I want to know what the match rate is for US versus non-US graduates. It might be quite similar but worth asking about specifically. In the end, I’ve never heard anything good or bad about Spartan. This is the first I’ve ever heard of it! But it’s a Caribbean school first and foremost and nothing that program can do will ever change that or make it easier for you to match. So listen to what they have to say but take it with a grain of salt
@@MarcKatzMD thank you doctor! For your response I would be sure to be careful about these statistics that you have pointed out above. I would be interested to know from which medical school that you graduated from
Do you practice in the US?
Yes
Did you apply to a DO school?
I applied to a handful of DO schools but didn’t get any acceptances
How hard are the courses there?
Same difficulty as any med school. Everyone learns the same stuff leading up to USMLE step 1 (first 2 years of med school)
What is the percentage of Caribbean grads who match?
Brian Moore I’m not sure! I couldn’t tease out that info from the NRMP data
@@MarcKatzMD Fair enough. So it entirely possible that candidates from the Caribbean are as successful at matching as DO's then. Your overall average for foreign grads may be brought down significantly by the fact that graduates from India, Bangladesh, etc (who far outnumber the Caribbean grads) match at an abysmal rate.
Brian Moore that is incorrect. Take a look at the NRMP data or my blog post that goes into further detail in the description of this video.
The NRMP splits US IMG’s and Non-US IMG’s into two categories. And non-US IMG’s actually match at just about the same rate as US-IMG’s. The match rates in 2018 were the following:
- US-IMG: 57.1%
- Non-US IMG: 56.1%
@@MarcKatzMD Got it. In the video you do say "US-IMGs", but I didn't pick up on that, partially because the graphic just says "IMGs". I do not mean to be critical in any way and I do appreciate your video, but it might have been good to better emphasize that distinction between US-IMGs and foreign IMGs in the video. Thank you and I have subscribed to your channel!
Brian Moore you hit the nail on the head. I chose to bypass that distinction but I can see that in the future I should address it even if it makes the video a little longer. Thanks for the feedback!
The biggest mistake of ur life! I’ve done it and I know many who have. You are given wrong info here. You don’t need to do a residency to work in medicine. You need to do one year of training and that can be an internship only in some states like NY. A DO program has many disadvantages to an Md program.
You need to complete a residency to practice independently as a physician in the United States. Respectfully you are incorrect and spreading disinformation. I’d be happy to read any data or evidence you can provide to back up your claims
Contact the NY board of registration. You’ll see I’m right.
Dr Katz, please read the requirements for a license.in NY. You’ll see that I’m correct. Use ur internet for something to see what each state requires