Lightweight Backpacking Water Bottles
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- Hope this helps make your future trips easier. Stop using heavy bottles...or don't... your call
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This was enlightening, i just carry a bunch if water bottles around in a backpack and it puts a lot strain on my shoulders. Hiking is something i greatly enjoy.
Those are cool options to possibly add to the bag, like the CNOCs; but Nalgenes don't really weigh much more than most bottles, they're wide mouthed so they're easy to drink from, easy to fill, easy to clean the inside, easy to empty out, you can stuff things into them for waterproof storage or cold-soaking food, there is no worry that they might break a seam or fail anywhere, the lid is attached so you don't drop / misplace it, they stand up no matter the amount of water, the lid attachment functions as a loop for holding and hanging, etc.. lol
Informative video. I tend to use power-aid type bottles that are lighter and fit the pack pockets better because they are a little skinnier. Love your personality. Makes things more interesting.
Yeah that is a good option as well if you have the extra space for a bottle full/and empty . Thank you!
I acknowledge that soft flasks are great for lots of uses specially if you are running, and when there are empty they pack to nothing, but they don’t last long and I’ve used all the big brands that make soft flasks and with all of them the water always taste plastic specially if it gets hot. For a back pack trip, you are going to lose some 20 grams by changing from a nalgene to a soft flask, wish is totally irrelevant in terms of weight loss, and your nalgene will last till the end of times always keeping your water tasting like water not plastic. Other thing...if you transport your precious water on a long trip far from civilization and reliable water points, on the outside of your backpack, for sure you will not wanna risk a puncture on that soft flask by rubbing it on some rock or thorn....
I've only used a couple but they all eventually leaded around the cap so i don't trust them. The screw cap is good for an inline filter, but the wide mouth bottles also have their advantages. For myself I prefer at least 1 single wall steel bottle without a plastic liner. Preferably wide mouth. Although it's heavy, it's never going to be punctured and you can heat water in it. Anything I bring beyond that would be a solid plastic, maybe even something like a Dasani water bottle with a good cap, since It's also collapsible. 😅 I just scrunch it down when I'm not using it or blow air into it if I want to refill. A one liter soda bottle with threads that fit a filter is also good. You can tie some paracord around it to make a sling. When empty, just scrunch it down.
Makes great sense. Great idea.
This actually solves a problem that I have. Thanks!!!👍
Thank you for this info. I never knew about collapsible water bottles. I usually hike with a 3 liter bladder, which I love but I also carry 2 plastic canteens, because I am paranoid of running out of water with no water source nearby.
Nope. I will forever love my bottle 😂.
The small form factor / collapsibility is definitely an advantage though I don't like the ergonomics. Harder to fill, harder to clean, awkward to drink from. If I really had to save 100 grams I'd rather lose some fat or optimize my hydration regime. After all, the water is always going to be much heavier than the bottle. Having said that I'm not a Nalgene fanboy. Not saying it's a bad product it's just that a cheap plastic bottle from a grocery store will do the same job. As for metal bottles, they have their merits but not for this particular use case.
I use Hydrapak soft bladder bottles. They are fantastic
Yeah they are top notch
Thanks guy 👍
I usually carry around a gallon bottle... But they may indeed be a tad more convenient! Thanks, Andrew!
hahaha yeah just a tad, plus less likely to leak and pack down to next to nothing.
Nalgene bottles don't really waste space. Think about it, you carry in a certain volume in your pack, a one litre volume of water in a solid, leak proof, crush proof bottle and you carry out that same volume, no difference in terms of your pack volume but now you drank the water your pack weight is one kilo lighter anyway. I like them, easy to keep clean. And if you are worried about the volume on your way out, stick your trash in the empty bottle or anything else, small items, dirty socks...maybe not! But you get the point, right?
I do, and I agree 100%...but I have other lighter ways of carrying extra gear or waste...I don't find the need for Nalgene bottles any long on backpacking trips where weight matters. Day hikes and weekend trips...why not, but overall not needed IMO. Thanks for the adult conversation LOL so many triggered Nalgene fan boys/gals out there because of this video 😂
I’ve had so many platypus bottles and those other expensive brand plastic bags break on me. They don’t last long!
I’ll keep my Nalgene bottles! Only plastic bag I use is my Katadyn BeFree filter bag. So far it’s the only one that hasn’t let me down.
These bottle/pouches have held up for 3 years now with heavy use...so far no complaints on my end (Spend 200 days a year in the woods)
Im carrying a stainless steel nalgene, and a plastic nalgene with a nesting cup. Not to mention a couple ultra light bottles to rehydrate with fewer trips to the water source
Nalgene also makes collapsable bottles....just so you know. LOVE Nalgene.
Not saying Nalgene is a bad product...I'm saying it's not needed (I spend 200 days a yea in the mountains)
@@GY6outdoors Ok. hahahaha
@@GY6outdoors I'm a caveman and I can say for sure... they are needed
The problem with that options are the plastic taste, that CNOC blader for example let the water with plastic taste, and it is horrible.
Yeah that’s a con for sure, but only happens when it’s been in the heat. Inside a pack I’ve never had that issue
But the cool thing with the nalgene is that it’s bpa free, thats often not the case with soft plastic.
The most I carry depends on my trip. Two 48 oz nalgen. 1 2 lt cnoc a grayl filter. Sometimes I sun a stainless steel for a nalgen. A 900 ml cup always. That would be for a very long trek
I wanted to disagree with you but those last two bottles are awesome. A reason I always went with a Nalgene is because I want a top that’s large enough to fit a life-straw into. At camp it’s easy to filter but when you’re on the move it’s much easier to just fill a bottle with unfiltered stream water and drink with the life straw. Thanks for this, going to pick those up!
Only other good thing about the nalgenes are that it with the lines on the side it makes it much easier to measure water.
An argument in favor of a stainless steel bottle is one can boil water or melt snow in it. There are titanium bottles that are much lighter weight, but these are very expensive. If one does not have a stainless steel bottle, they should probably have an aluminum, steel, or titanium pot to boil water or melt snow. Also, one can safely pour very hot water into a Nalgene water bottle and use it in their sleeping bag for a great heater.
The minimal amount of weight my stainless bottle has is nothing compared to being able to boil water in it if need be. Can’t do that with bladders. I also carry bladders, but only use them at base camp
To carry one I’d have to either still carry a more reliable option (my nalgene) or something to patch it just in case it were to rip or puncture anywhere. Why risk dehydration over 3.85oz? That’s the difference in weight between the Nalgene and the first bottle linked.
Nalgene has a collapsible plastic canteen.😁
Yeah even they saw the need for less bulk. Good for them! They are a great company
You are aware Nalgene makes a ultra lite bottle right
YUPPPP...I'm referring to the heavier ones. Nalgene is a general name used for hard plastic water bottles...Nalgene is a great company, but not necessary to bring heavier items if you're looking to save weight on deep backpacking trips.
Lol all it took was less than 7 minutes for you to trigger all these people. Love you Andrew. This comment section is gold.
Right! LOL this comment section cracks me up at the Nalgene Warriors coming to save the day. People are missing the point on what I'm talking about...THICK BULKY Heavier bottles...Nalgene just happens to be go to brand of them LOL. Doesn't mean Hard wide mouth bottles are useless, just not a great option when you're trying to save weight and space.
@@GY6outdoors I very much agree. I don’t even use my Nalgene bottle for water at this point. I just use it to keep an extra pair of socks dry and anything else I need to absolutely have dry. Which realistically isn’t even necessary considering I just get the same results with a ziplock bag.
I tried to use them but they always end up with a little hole in them and after the third one I was like nah I think those are for people who go for hikes for just a few hours or biking were you go home after but we go hunting or scouting usually rough places and they just don't hold up in the truck or in the bush were your really down in the dirt, nice for a day pack though
or a haversack.
Yeah, I do get pretty tired of haulin around clunky plastic jank. For some reason I still carry bottles 🤣... Very cool options 👍 thanks! Love the pillow idea.
The collapsable bottle. How do you fill it? A funnel?
through the hole LOL
What brand of jacket are you wearing? Thanks
Thank you! Keep up good work! Your 3rd one---Hydrapak - Collapsible BPA & PVC Free - is my favorite.
I can run over my Nalgene bottle, but you're right, it's bulky. It took me forever to trust the buying of one. I'll consider one of yours after I do a lot of research first...
Well if you plan on getting run over in the woods, then bring that nalgene. LOL
The Nalgene army are in the house, good vid tho mate for those weight dumping
Yeah you can never please everyone...nor do I intend to LOL ...there are always those that will disagree LOL
But I love my nalgene.....how dare you try to dethrone our King.
Haha lol jk. I have a 100 ounce (just over 3 L) Platypus bladder that I've had for years and years using it quite a bit and have never had a problem with it. I love it.
I use a Camlbak and love it. I love not having to stop and pull out a water bottle because I hate stopping. I am paranoid about running out of water, which I have done too many times, 2 times to be exact. I have finally broke down and bought a Sawyer Squeeze, I just figured out how that works and a Katadyne BeFree, I think I will like that one better.
Good ideas no doubt. But I carry a stainless, And that's because worse comes to worse I can boil water in it for sterilization.
always a good option as well. I always have my backpacking stove and pot for cooking, clearly the best option if you need to boil water.
I carry a 4 qt oasis. Yes it's heavy but I've been carrying it so long I don't notice. 😂
This a was a great, informative video. Think you have the basis for a good series of videos if you wanted to cover some other basic and/or weight saving tips. For example, best practices for a 2 hr hike for one video, best for a 2 day hike another. You're already covering the products; reframing it for a more general audience may get you more eyeballs.
Think there's a balance you can find between hardcore enthusiast and mass appeal where everyone can learn something.
Agreed, and they are already being filmed...there is a ton to do, and in time they will all be LIVE. THANK YOU for your support.
Can't boil water.
I run water purifiers bud, plus if I need to boil water my camp titanium pot does that job without boiling water in a plastic bottle. I also carry a collapsed cheap plastic bottle for emergency water boiling. Not ideal to add boiling water into any type of plastic, but if you have to it beats not drinking water.
Still loving the videos. Have any of these filters you'd like to show us or compare any in another video?
I plan to. In time I will have countless videos on damn near everything in the market. Lots to do
Seems to me companies have updated the traditional leather drinking bota.
Thanks for sharing. This is new to me.
Disagree respectfully. 95% protection is not enough when it comes to the most important thing you’re carrying with you. Plus, it has other uses other than carrying water the plastic bags don’t
Big fan of the 1L SmartWater bottles. Super durable, smaller diameter helps stuffing in backpack side pockets, works well with Sawyer system (the flip top/squeeze cap is a perfect fit for backwashing your water filter). Also, while they are meant to be disposable, I’ve been using one of the bottles I have for the past 3 years of backpacking trips. Not sure about the BPA content tho..🤔
we are litteraly bathing in BPA dude
And if your filter breaks back in camp? What will you do then?
With a stainless Nalgene bottle you can drink from it, purify water, make char cloth in it, and even cook in it. It's USA made and high quality.
I will stick with the bottle. As it's both more capable and more reliable. If you're filter goes down and you're out in the boonies you are in trouble.
I'm not saying Nalgene's are a bad product. This is all for space and weight saving lightweight backpacking trips. I always have my backpacking stove for cooking food LOL clearly the go to option to boil water.
These are some awesome options. But they do not fill all of the needs that a stainless steel, single wall bottle does.
But hey, you're talking hiking. You are not talking a survival situation or bushcrafting situation.
Old smart water bottles. Lightweight and somewhat durable. Plus any Sawyer water filter screws right on.
Still takes up a lot of room in your pack.
Until you puncture it that is. Accidents happen. If you want lightweight and tough, go titanium. I know titanium is expensive but it will last you a lifetime.
I’ve tried puncturing these through many years of abuse…still no issues
Titanium has a great strength to weight ratio but it's not _that_ light. If you count also the lid it weights about the same as a stainless steel bottle with a plastic lid. It's not just about the density because if you use a heavier but stronger material you need less of it to achieve the same strength. But of course there are some practical considerations and it's not possible to make everything super thin. Btw I bet those bladders are made of thin polyethylene foil. Polyethylene is used to make PET bottles that you can find in any grocery store so the difference is mostly just the form factor. My 2-liter (68 fl. oz) bottle weights 31 grams (1 oz) which is not bad :) But it's bulky of course.
Nalgene are US made, saves lots in CO2 emissions, so I like them for that
Nalgene is a great company…just not a fan of hard water bottles for the overall bulk of the item. Nalgene makes soft water bladders and bottles as well. This is mainly about options for water transportation, at the end of the day, use what you like best😎🍻
I've been backpacking for awhile now. Although I carry smart water bottles, nalgene bottles really don't weigh much. People are going overboard on this ultra lite weight shit. Yes I do believe you can cut weight in some areas but its getting outa hand. Ohh and after folding that collapsible bladder it will eventually crack or split
Yes it isn't a ton of extra weight...but it still is UNNEEDED WEIGHT. The main issue is how much room it takes up or bulk it adds to the outside of a pack. I've been backpacking and hiking for 28years...Bottles are a giant waste of space.
I haven't had any issues with cracking or splitting, that only may happen when you buy cheap crappy products.
@@GY6outdoors Bro... you would not survive 2 weeks in the second war with this kind of mind set...
What jacket are you wearing? Been looking for one like yours for a while.
Looks like it's some type of material.
Ian Mangham of course! Material! Here I was thinking it was a 5th dimensional type of thing. Thanks for clearing that up...
@@Hertacles 🤣 I do believe you can find one on EARTH .👊
Anyone else wanna point out that you can't boil water for sterilization in those like you can in a ss bottle? That's one of the biggest reasons that people who spend any time out in the wild use them.
I run water purifiers bud, plus if I need to boil water my camp titanium pot does that job without boiling water in a plastic bottle. I also carry a collapsed cheap plastic bottle for emergency water boiling. Not ideal to add boiling water into any type of plastic, but if you have to it beats not drinking water. ( I spend 200 days a year in the mountains...how about you? )
@@GY6outdoors I'm a caveman
"Heavy Nalgene bottle." Weakling. Sorry, just keeping it real.
hahahaha guess you have never gone deep into the woods with a full pack...by mile 10 I want to get rid of ANYTHING that has unnecessary weight lol
@@GY6outdoors I've done my time. Well before "ultralight" was an option. Hahaha, and I forgot to mention my time in the Army.
Are those bags BPA free?
How difficult are they to clean properly? thanks
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LOL so many triggered Nalgene fan boys/gals out there because of this video 😂 ok listen up so everyone can calm the down and continue drinking water from their Nalgene's as they aggressively keyboard commando the shit out of this comment section(Good on you for your brand loyalty though LOL)
1: To those saying constantly, "Yeah but you can't boil your water in these collapsible bottles" - Answer: I carry a water purifier! LOL I don't need to wast fuel boiling water, and it I did I would just use my titanium camp pot LOL.
2: To those saying, "These bags easily fall apart and fail on you!" - Answer: YES, they are less durable than a Heavy Duty Tank of a water bottle like a Nalgene...I have used Nalgene bottles for over 25+ years in the Mountains, I love them for the job they are great at, carrying water that you never want to lose(Unless the bottle lid strap breaks and your bottle goes rolling down a hill, been there done that)...but these water bladders/pouches are far from brittle, I have been running them for a while now 2-3 years and spend more time in the outdoors than most of the haters in this comment section pouring out their Bran Loyalty for Nalgene(200+ days a year in the mountains). Yes they can puncture if you are not careful, but due to their size and shape they are easily packed in-between layers of something else to protect them...even when I have used them as an air cushion to sit on(Desperate times) they still held up...soooo I would disagree that a tank of a water bottle is needed.
3: To those saying, "The water bladders/pouches are a pain to clean!" - Answer: Yes, they are much more difficult to clean than a nalgene is...BUT it's not something a bottle brush can't fix INSTANTLY, add soap and some hot water and shake it around the bottle even works well. Entirely up to the end user to determine what is more important to them, function of the product or ease of cleaning...LOL
4: To those saying, "This guy is just selling a product!" - Answer: Why would I be just trying to sell a product when if that's what I wanted to do, I would clearly appease the large fan base of Nalgene Loyal Fan Base, it would benefit me to "FIT IN," it would help my channel, it would make more people happy, and I'd get more Subscribers...Makes no sense that I'm just trying to sell a product 😂 I have no connection with any of the products I'm talking about in this video...and I don't get paid from any outdoor gear company to sell anything LOL. My honest opinion and experience to my fans is what matters most to me, and is what will carry my channel into a healthy TRUE fan base that know I'm honest. I'd rather be hated on by all the Nalgene fan boys/gals and be honest than blow smoke up your ass and just try to fit in...NOT MY STYLE and never will be. Honesty is #1 to me...not brand loyalty. Do I think Nalgene is a bad company...HELL NO! I love their quality products...this video is strictly talking about why many who are looking to save weight and space, and don't need to use the heavy duty Nalgene Bottles...That is all! Matter of fact, Nalgene makes a water pouch/bladder now as well...so it proves they even understand the need and usefulness of a collapsible water pouch/bladder....Use your Brains People, and stop getting so upset over my Opinion, if you don't agree... that is perfectly fine, but try not to stress out and get so angry you have to leave awfully ignorant and clearly zero experience comments just because you don't agree(The disturbing ones that were DARK and Low Brow I just deleted, no room here for that GARBAGE in my comment sections!)
5: To those saying, "What does this guy know, he doesn't have any experience clearly!" 😂- Answer: WRONG LOL, I have been camping an living in the mountains for as long as I can remember and as soon as I could walk(Thanks Dad). I have over 28years of outdoor experience, and spend more time every year in the mountains and off grid than NEARLY everyone in this comment section I'm sure(150-200 days a year)...but time doesn't always equal knowledge, and that is why I dedicate myself to always learning and always keeping an open mind to new ideas and opinions...but in the case of the fan boys/gals just loving to hate....Good luck with that attitude, you are entitled to your opinions, but doesn't make them right. Sorry Not Sorry. Just as I'm sure "They" don't think I'm right with my opinion on this topic...and that is fine, and doesn't change a thing for me LOL I know what I like and what works.
6: To those saying, .....Well time will tell on the new argument but these are the only ones I will address at the moment hope it answers the questions of open minded people, clearly can't and will never change the mind of Brand Loyal Nalgene Fan boys/girls...and I don't intent to 😂🤦🏻♂️ good on you for you loyalty to a brand that loves to take your money.
There is always keyboard commandos for everything, don't mind them Andrew. Keep doing what you do. Thanks for the awesome videos.
You really LOL showed them LOL cause you know LOL you LOL have no room for GARBAGE in your LOL comment section LOL. Here's a tip cut the amount of LOL you post about it makes you come off as asinine and devalues a lot of your arguments cause you know acting like a twat isn't going to gain your a large viewerbase.TLDR on your big statement too many LOL's to even take you seriously.
To be fair, a bottle is only really useful if it’s full. So if it’s empty. Time to refill. “Hey we found a dead hiker” “how did he die” “I don’t know but his empty water bag is really nicely packed”
What's this liter crap. This its merica damn it we use gallons Andydrew 🇺🇸
Plastic water wtf?
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Brendan Schaub?
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Take a bottle weighing 300 grams in which you can boil water. Or take 300 grams of medicine for diarrhea and other joys of wild life. The weight of your luggage will not change. But your personal weight will change, of course if you survive.
I run water purifiers bud😂🤦🏻♂️, plus if I need to boil water my camp titanium pot does that job without boiling water in a plastic bottle. I also carry a collapsed cheap plastic bottle for emergency water boiling. Not ideal to add boiling water into any type of plastic, but if you have to it beats not drinking water.