Really insightful video, not just on the sponsorship side but in general terms about having the right attitude and having what it takes to get to the top. I’m at a standard now where I’m just breaking into my local superleague and trying keep my place and improve with the goal of one day making it. Some really sound advice so thanks mate 🙌
There is loads of players who can't afford to do the travel have to payout ther own pocket miss work end up not giving it a go have to work pay the bills
Very insightful. With a bit of creativity there are many alternatives for darts players to financially sustain themselves as they try and break into the game. For example, Kenyan distance runners will often share a house together in London (for example) so they can train together, share costs and travel around major races in Europe. Then they share the prizemoney equally as well. I could see this working for overseas players coming over from Australia and looking to break into the game. With all these 'academies' cropping up there's going to some kind of Simon Cowell type ex player who puts some money in and gets a group of lads to sign contracts so they invest in their development in return for a cut of their revenue (including other sponsorship) for a set number of years. Personally, I would avoid contracts and deals. If you believe you're good enough then it's like starting any business - beg, borrow and steal as much as you need until you make it!
Yes each individual has different needs and for a lot of people it may not be worth it but if it’s someone with the right connections and is going to add a lot of value then I’m all for it but important for people to think about what they would actually want before it happens. 👍
@@RR10000Hours Out of interest, what happens to players who get sponsored for x amount but then never win anything. Do the sponsors write it off or do players sometimes have an obligation to pay back? I assume they have minimum obligations to fulfil such as attending a certain number of tournaments but is any of the sponsorship basically an advance to get someone going and they have to pay it back if they don't make it?
@@tomg3833 my experience is with a proper agent there will be no liability to pay back anything unless there is say gross misconduct. With someone who is just doing it to earn some cash and not DRA register or follows guidelines there is any number of caveats that a player could get wrapped up in unfortunately.
Hi great video my 9 year old son plays darts for Sussex at a youth county level. How comes we know a couple of players who he plays with at the age of 10 and 11 say have been sponsored by Mission. I understand at say when you finish school and are about to say compete at q school. My question is what package of sponsor would they have as obviously there not winning really any prize money as such. As perhaps they play the odd open tournaments. But again a great video keep up the good work take care and stay safe
Thanks for your comment dean and great to hear your son playing for county already 🙌👏It’s a little more complicated at youth level but with the JDC tour etc their is still prize money on offer so their can be a split. With that being said most youth sponsors are building for the future and want to build a relationship with someone early to help them progress with a long term expectation that this will give them the best chance of signing talent they would not usually be able to get. In the case your mentioning it may be more likely that the basic principle of younger players copying other younger players is that if the best youth players are using that equipment then there peers may want to do the same. Eg more board and other sales outweighed by the cost of minimal youth tournament entry fee and equipment. Hope makes sense and all the best to you and your family ! 😊💪
Yeah I didn't think of the JDC tours and other tournaments that they run. My son Joshua also plays at East Kent Darts Academy in Canterbury every Saturday and was the first player in there c team to hit 180 at the age of 8 in there 10 years of running a academy also last year had a 13 dart leg online consisting of 60,95,130,180,36. He played his first youth county game two weeks ago with Sussex and will hopefully keep on progressing. Many thanks for your message take care and stay safe everyone
Really insightful video, not just on the sponsorship side but in general terms about having the right attitude and having what it takes to get to the top. I’m at a standard now where I’m just breaking into my local superleague and trying keep my place and improve with the goal of one day making it. Some really sound advice so thanks mate 🙌
Glad was helpful for you joey ! Sounds like your doing well keep that going and good luck to you 🙌💪
@@RR10000Hours thanks mate! Really glad I stumbled across this page, genuinely so helpful 👍
I really appreciate your videos. This was very helpful insight.
That’s really interesting. It something that you don’t think about or how to go about getting it. Great video. 👍🎯
Glad you find it interesting bit of a different topic to anything usual 🙌
There is loads of players who can't afford to do the travel have to payout ther own pocket miss work end up not giving it a go have to work pay the bills
Very true
Very insightful. With a bit of creativity there are many alternatives for darts players to financially sustain themselves as they try and break into the game. For example, Kenyan distance runners will often share a house together in London (for example) so they can train together, share costs and travel around major races in Europe. Then they share the prizemoney equally as well. I could see this working for overseas players coming over from Australia and looking to break into the game. With all these 'academies' cropping up there's going to some kind of Simon Cowell type ex player who puts some money in and gets a group of lads to sign contracts so they invest in their development in return for a cut of their revenue (including other sponsorship) for a set number of years. Personally, I would avoid contracts and deals. If you believe you're good enough then it's like starting any business - beg, borrow and steal as much as you need until you make it!
Yes each individual has different needs and for a lot of people it may not be worth it but if it’s someone with the right connections and is going to add a lot of value then I’m all for it but important for people to think about what they would actually want before it happens. 👍
@@RR10000Hours Out of interest, what happens to players who get sponsored for x amount but then never win anything. Do the sponsors write it off or do players sometimes have an obligation to pay back? I assume they have minimum obligations to fulfil such as attending a certain number of tournaments but is any of the sponsorship basically an advance to get someone going and they have to pay it back if they don't make it?
@@tomg3833 my experience is with a proper agent there will be no liability to pay back anything unless there is say gross misconduct. With someone who is just doing it to earn some cash and not DRA register or follows guidelines there is any number of caveats that a player could get wrapped up in unfortunately.
@@RR10000Hours thanks. Good to know there's oversight to protect players.
Hi great video my 9 year old son plays darts for Sussex at a youth county level. How comes we know a couple of players who he plays with at the age of 10 and 11 say have been sponsored by Mission. I understand at say when you finish school and are about to say compete at q school. My question is what package of sponsor would they have as obviously there not winning really any prize money as such. As perhaps they play the odd open tournaments. But again a great video keep up the good work take care and stay safe
Rich or have connections wouldn't worry about it
Thanks for your comment dean and great to hear your son playing for county already 🙌👏It’s a little more complicated at youth level but with the JDC tour etc their is still prize money on offer so their can be a split. With that being said most youth sponsors are building for the future and want to build a relationship with someone early to help them progress with a long term expectation that this will give them the best chance of signing talent they would not usually be able to get.
In the case your mentioning it may be more likely that the basic principle of younger players copying other younger players is that if the best youth players are using that equipment then there peers may want to do the same. Eg more board and other sales outweighed by the cost of minimal youth tournament entry fee and equipment. Hope makes sense and all the best to you and your family ! 😊💪
Yeah I didn't think of the JDC tours and other tournaments that they run. My son Joshua also plays at East Kent Darts Academy in Canterbury every Saturday and was the first player in there c team to hit 180 at the age of 8 in there 10 years of running a academy also last year had a 13 dart leg online consisting of 60,95,130,180,36. He played his first youth county game two weeks ago with Sussex and will hopefully keep on progressing. Many thanks for your message take care and stay safe everyone
Great to hear how well he is doing ! Hope he is enjoying the experience and all the best from me mate wish Joshua the best of luck going forward 😉🙌
Will do many thanks again. And great videos from yourself take care and stay safe