Very well presented! Thank you so much! One more thing I want to add, at the beginning of the movie the Numidians were shouting in Arabic, but during that era none spoke Arabic in North Africa, the Numidians spoke Berber (Tamazight) . Some rich people in big cities like Cirta spoke Latin. Thank you again!
If the events of Gladiator II take place 16 years after the death of Marcus Aurelius, as they claim at the beginning of the movie, Jugurtha then as absolutely nothing to do with it, since he lived nearly 300 years before Marcus Aurelius.
I m from cirta nova, where we find jughurta table, and 50 from zama... that s my region! Massinissa is a college in my city and jughurta is a clinic 😅 welcome to Kef , Tunisian north ouest city borders with algeria ...❤
@@HistoryLeaksno, Jugharta is the grandson of Massinissa and they are from Algeria (the eastern Numidia = the Masyles) exactly in the Aurès (my region and I am from the tribe of Jugharta) the capital of Numidia is called Cirta is a city in Algeria which is now called "constantine". Numidia is Algeria and all these kings are from Algeria from my region AURES and its capital is in Algeria Cirta (constantine)
Hello there! So I'm from Constantine and you seem to know a lot about the history of that region so I wanted to ask you where is this zama? Is it in Tunisia or algeria ?
You’re right, my mistake, thanks for pointing that out, it’s good to have viewers who know their Roman history so well and can correct my mistakes thank you! 💯🙏❤️
Jugharta is the grandson of Massinissa and they are from Algeria (the eastern Numidia = the Masyles) exactly in the Aurès (my region and I am from the tribe of Jugharta) the capital of Numidia is called Cirta is a city in Algeria which is now called "constantine". Numidia is Algeria and all these kings are from Algeria from my region AURES and its capital is in Algeria Cirta (constantine)
Jugurtha was king of Numidia currently Algeria, he was captured and imprisoned in Rome then killed. The cell were he was imprisoned is still present up to now in Rome
I am a Berber native African and my DNA is 100% North African. I am light skinned and Berbers are from different shades. I personally see this a a richness; therefore, keep your BS race, we don’t buy it in North Africa.
North africans are amazigh berber people a Mediterranean a own race that have features of itailans iberians and middle eastern people . Some of them are mixed with italians and iberians and the others way around other Mediterranean races have amazigh/berber features. The berbers are not vlack people They have on of the oldest language and culture in the word wich is still used in present day. I am a amazigh from north/eastern morocco i did a dna test and scored 70%north agrican 25%italian 5%jewish
The ancient inhabitants of northern Numidia had white skin, even the features of their faces on ancient coins prove that. They are Amazigh and not Arabs and have no relation to the Arabs. We are talking about the era before Christ, before the birth of Jesus and Muhammad. It is believed that they are of Germanic origin because their language was similar to ancient Germanic and they believed in Valhalla and Odin.
So your talking about the new invaders during islams time of expansion and the unnecessary killings of the devils people with no soul the arabs just like the devils children the melaninleas europeans in Austrlia and America. Would you say those are the people of the land 2000 years ago? Lack of melanin will always mean a lack ofsoul and barbarianisim.
The ancient inhabitants of northern Numidia had white skin, even their facial features on ancient coins prove that. They are Amazigh and not Arabs and have no relation to the Arabs. We are talking about before Christ, before the birth of Jesus and Mohammed. It is believed that they are of Germanic origin because their language was similar to ancient Germanic and they believed in Valhalla and Odin. Numidia is not a desert as they portrayed it in the movie, but a cold region full of green forests. It was filmed in Morocco, a country hostile to Algeria and which wants to overthrow Algeria. They deliberately distorted everything Algerian in the film.
Part of them defected, another tribe which in the past supported Rome, then defected to Carthage, so the Numidian’s were always back and fourth they weren’t really loyal to either in the long run
@@HistoryLeaks Carthage wasn't either. Same with Rome. Massyli and Maseasyli were the main contestants of the two. When Syphax switched up Carthage switched up and allowed the Massyli to pay up losses, hence it's retribution for what Massinissa gave back to them. And even with Jugurtha the Italic Merchants put their own hands to pay their lives when holding the gates of Cirta against him when he wanted to take his remaining rivals
Lol so for all you people saying Hannibal wasn't black which is about 50/50 and nobody black was in his Army lets not forget the Numidians were black as Flava Flave😂
@TomHawks-k8l look up Numidians and there features... It's easy... just use Google and look at the descriptions and paintings left behind by the Roman's then go cry about it!
History in Glad 2 is obviously out of sync and Jugurtha was probably more of Algerian descent whilst the actor playing him in the film probably isn’t .
None with the one in the first film being from Nubia south of Egypt (modern Sudan) whereas this guy was a Berber (Amazigh) and therefore shouldn't have been depicted as a sub-Saharan black man
Why Hollywood REFUSE to use BLACK ACTORS to portray the REAL ANCIENT BLACK people such as the Egyptians and Ethiopians. And I agree that the Phoenicians, Carthaginians, Libyans and Numidians were NOT BLACK.
I know its hard for your racist braincell to process but Ethiopians and Numidians are are black and Egypt was a multi ethnic civilization with black people there as well . sorry your fantasy of black people only being slaves aren't ttue
Have you ever been to Egypt.....I have...And before you bring up the Arab invasion in the 7th century..Aside from the limited Arab population vs the Egyptian population, this was a cultural/religious assimilation not a DNA one. The Copts who can make the best claim to linear decent, are not black. While there were DNA exchange, and even dynasties with roots from "Black" Africa, the majority of Egyptians then and now are not of sub Saharan origin...
Caanan (Phoenicians, Carthaginians, Libyans and Numidians) is the son 0f ham as is Mizariam (Egypt) so they were all black' ,the Levent is north east Africa. the place if full of mulatos now . Also North Africa has whites who are the descendent of slaves of the barbary pirates, research my friend. they are hairy, thats a gene from the caucasus not Africa
@@alexandreveigapereira8727 Stop the NON-SENSE. The dark reddish brown skin ancient Egyptians were the closest in skin color to the BLACKEST of BLACK Nubians. And that is enough to call the Egyptians BLACK and the Nubians were EXTREMELY Black.
@@pharaohmizraim2030 Hannibal The King Of Carthage Was A Black African, Unlike The LIES The Media Portrays. I Can't Wait To See Denzel Washington Portray Hannibal,But That Same Sex Kiss Gossip/Publicity He Started Is Making Me Look At Him Sideways!!! 🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
I just watched "those about to die" , and "gladiator 2 "... The black washing of Numidia is depressing , and we can't even defend ourselves because we are not a famous country like Egypt and most of the world never saw our historical figures because they don't teach that in their schools Like they teach the history of the Pharaohs and the Egyptian history , so for real those TV shows are going to implement that North Africa was black in the mind of millions of audience around the world . As an Algerian I've never said that we aren't African , but we are not black either we are our own ethnicity we are Mediterranean , black people I have their own history show that don't blackwash our own history
In my opinion, the Romans would win the Battle of Zama whether Masinissa was there or not. The Romans completely annihilated the Carthaginians in the Iberian peninsula in multiple battles and bottled the Carthaginians in southern Italy without Masinissa around.
Well they might have, but according to the sources, mansinissa’a cavalary delivered the decisive blow to the rear of the Carthaginian infantry, maybe they would have still won the battle but with more losses, potentially prolonging the war
@HistoryLeaks The decisive point was when Hannibal's charging elephants to break up the Roman infantry were rendered useless by Scipio's "channels" that allowed these elephants to pass and being slaughtered together with their riders at the back of the legions. The Carthaginian's shock troops were not even a factor in the battle.
Roman images of Numidians on horse back all look 100% indigenous African (Black) with short locs still worn by no one else but Blacks.(E.g Le Moro Roman era statue in the Louvre museum, Paris, & the coins of Tresimeno i.e Hannibal Barca). All images of indigenous north Africans, who are not in the Greek image of Greek gods like 1:31, would otherwise look Black with hairstyles still worn by people of indigenous African lineage. There is no region in Africa without Black people. North Africa is no different. There is no indigenous north Africans without African (black) blood. Blackness is Africaness. There is no seperating or segregating this because of your anti -Black bias and ignorance. The rest of Northern Africans look Eurasian, because they are in whole or in part, children of later invaders and sl@ves (circassians/saqaliba)
I do agree with what you said about the images of Numidian horsemen, the hairstyles are quite telling. But it’s interesting why then on coins and other depictions of Jurgurtha he has more of a Hellenistic or Roman appearance
Inaccurate - lookup the mosaic of a Numidian farmer from Mauritania Caesarianus (north Algeria). Better yet imagery of Libyans (used to mean Berbers) during ancient Egypt depicts them as white. Most of Africa is black but the north never was (at least what can be confirmed in the last 6000 years)
@@HistoryLeaks The truth is that there were dark skinned and light skinned Numidians, not one group. Like most of North Africa, trying to say that Numidians were all light skinned or dark skinned just isn't factual either way. That's why I think there is so much confusion. If you read some classic Roman literature like Silius Italicus' "Punica", he says that the Numidians, Moors, and Garamantes were all black skinned. "Now, while the Romans were attacking their straggling, fleeing foe, with ferocity, Tunger the Moor, of fearful size, and terrible in arms, rushed to the attack. Black of skin, his mighty chariot, and its new manner of striking terror, was as black as the dusky backs of his horses, nor had he refrained from adding a tall plume of the same hue to the crest of his helm, while the robes he wore were also coloured black." Also from "Punica" "Hannibal set his lines in order, along the winding bank of Aufidus, following the lie of the land. The Nasimonians, in barbarous multitude, stood ready for battle and held the left wing, beside the Marmaridae, giants in stature; fierce Moors; the Garamantes and Macae; the Massylian warriors, and Adrymachidae en masse, they who dwell by the Nile, who delight in warfare, skins burnt black in that merciless sun." Massylians are a tribe of Numidians. But here you can see that Silius is lumping all these groups of people under the same "black skinned burned by the sun". Another line describing the hair of one of the generals: "The Massyli, westernmost dwellers on this earth, came with their glittering standards too, from the Hesperides. Before them went fierce Bocchus, the hair of his head curling in close locks, who had seen the sacred garden by the sea, its golden fruit gleaming among green leaves." So people say, "they were all blacks Africans", are false. And also the people saying "there were NEVER black Africans in North Africa!" are false. There were many tribes and many people who looked black or light skinned, so show them how you want, you'll never be wrong! lol
@@alpharius_nox They were some dark people but they weren't negros they looked north africans with darker skin i mean the the shape of the head . And they weren't black their skin got lighter when it wasn't exposed to sun
@@HistoryLeaks "How is the colour of the Moor, darker than pitch, and swarthy from the rays of the sun?" Juvenal - Satires Moors, are a North African people, described by all Roman and Arab historians as being black or dark skinned with kinky or curly haired. Not all North Africans were looking like Brad Pitt, most actually DID look like Denzel Washington or Peter Mensah. Don't let these people with political agendas influence you, show North Africans as dark or light skinned, either way, you have many options. lol
@@HistoryLeaks the whole Continent of Africa is black. There’s dark and lighter shades of black…So you’re trying to tell me that small percentage of Africa that’s surrounded by black people, has one percentage of whites? Make it make sense. You can’t go off what you see today. The Greeks and Romans have verified this in their history. Even the History channel has changed its tune. Look up the story on Hannibal.
@@zakback9937 😂 you have to be joking. You can’t go off what you see in today’s time. Do you know Italian’s have African roots. Especially the Sicilian ones.
I’m pretty sure Denzel Washington who was cast is black. At least have some idea what you’re talking about. Ancient Egyptians certainly were not black, as well.
"The Egyptians were the ancestors of the Jews... themselves descended from the stock of the Ethiopians. For the Egyptians, too, are swarthy, and the Mauri almost black." Tacitus - The Histories
"Numidians and Getulians are known to be wandering people... Their dark skin and woolly hair show they are descendants of the ETHIOPIANS." Pliny the Elder - "Natural History". You see what happens when you do some actual reading? Instead of relying on Metatron or Total War Rome?
Except he was. Pliny the Elder, Arab historians and Jambudvipa historians confirmed this. You may either show true security and humanity and eject the racist lies you were taught by racist lying teachers when you were too young to know any better, thereby becoming a better human being and bettering the planet by whatever small degree... ...or kindly cram your racism deep up where the sun don't shine.
Very well presented! Thank you so much!
One more thing I want to add, at the beginning of the movie the Numidians were shouting in Arabic, but during that era none spoke Arabic in North Africa, the Numidians spoke Berber (Tamazight) . Some rich people in big cities like Cirta spoke Latin.
Thank you again!
@@educreator_edu thank you for sharing your insight my friend, and I’m glad you liked the video! ❤️🙏💯🫡
Yep very true! I'm actually from Constantine, Algeria which is the modern name of cirta
If the events of Gladiator II take place 16 years after the death of Marcus Aurelius, as they claim at the beginning of the movie, Jugurtha then as absolutely nothing to do with it, since he lived nearly 300 years before Marcus Aurelius.
Ridley Scott's History not mine
Well researched and presented! Love your presentation format
Thank you my friend, that’s great feedback glad you’re enjoying the content 💯🙏❤️
I m from cirta nova, where we find jughurta table, and 50 from zama... that s my region! Massinissa is a college in my city and jughurta is a clinic 😅 welcome to Kef , Tunisian north ouest city borders with algeria ...❤
That's very cool, I love the fact they honoured their ancestors naming the college after him, that is so awesome to hear ❤❤
@@HistoryLeaksno, Jugharta is the grandson of Massinissa and they are from Algeria (the eastern Numidia = the Masyles) exactly in the Aurès (my region and I am from the tribe of Jugharta) the capital of Numidia is called Cirta is a city in Algeria which is now called "constantine". Numidia is Algeria and all these kings are from Algeria from my region AURES and its capital is in Algeria Cirta (constantine)
Hello there! So I'm from
Constantine and you seem to know a lot about the history of that region so
I wanted to ask you where is this zama? Is it in Tunisia or algeria ?
@ Zama I'm pretty sure was close to the city of Carthage, which would be modern day Tunisia.
The Roman General in charge of the Numantian campaign was Scipio Aemilianus (hero of the 3rd Punic War) not Scipio Africanus from the 2nd Punic War.
You’re right, my mistake, thanks for pointing that out, it’s good to have viewers who know their Roman history so well and can correct my mistakes thank you! 💯🙏❤️
Thanks for not playing favoritism but stating the facts cheers to your channel may more viewers subs and fortune to you
Jugharta is the grandson of Massinissa and they are from Algeria (the eastern Numidia = the Masyles) exactly in the Aurès (my region and I am from the tribe of Jugharta) the capital of Numidia is called Cirta is a city in Algeria which is now called "constantine". Numidia is Algeria and all these kings are from Algeria from my region AURES and its capital is in Algeria Cirta (constantine)
Great video brother can’t wait to see the next one
Love this as a half Algerian
Jugurtha was king of Numidia currently Algeria, he was captured and imprisoned in Rome then killed. The cell were he was imprisoned is still present up to now in Rome
Really? Wow interesting, would not have imagined the cell still exists, thanks for that caveat! 💯🙏❤️
Saw two of your docs and I'm subbed. You do a great job especially of people not really talked about in history. At least for us layman types lol
Thanks for the sub, glad you’re liking the content, I’ll be having much more coming soon! Thanks for your support! 🙏💯❤️
In a couple of years they gonna say the mayans were white 2 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Already 😅
@@thatguyronwaiters6485 It’s not a joke, modern North Africans are trying to claim the Empire of Mali and Mansa Musa were not black Africans
I am a Berber native African and my DNA is 100% North African. I am light skinned and Berbers are from different shades. I personally see this a a richness; therefore, keep your BS race, we don’t buy it in North Africa.
@@alpharius_noxno one is saying mansu musa was white, and get this over your head: NORTH AFRICANS ARE NOT BLACK AND THEY NEVER WERE
Amazing knowledge,thank you
Thank you for watching! 💯🙏❤️
North africans are amazigh berber people a Mediterranean a own race that have features of itailans iberians and middle eastern people .
Some of them are mixed with italians and iberians and the others way around other Mediterranean races have amazigh/berber features.
The berbers are not vlack people
They have on of the oldest language and culture in the word wich is still used in present day.
I am a amazigh from north/eastern morocco i did a dna test and scored 70%north agrican 25%italian 5%jewish
berber is a SLUR we are not barbarians we are AMAZIGH 🤦♀️
thenx to show reality thnx frome cirta ❤❤💚💚(algeria)
Thank you my friend, I hope you have an amazing weekend 💚💚❤❤🙏🙏
2:46 that's Jajeet not Jugurtha. Not 1 bit North African- Amazigh of it
😂😂😂😂😂😂
they want to erase us
مروكي 😂😂😂 يا فقراء الطاريييخخخخ 😂😂😂😂
@Parva_Goldfinch_ALG least emotional nationalist. Speak in an actual language rather than Ajamic
I loved Peter Mensah as Jugurtha in Gladiator 2.
He was cast perfectly as this noble african king.
Alexander Siddig wouldve been better
@socrates6212 More historicaly accurate, but not even half that badass. Tall chocolate man is the best african king.
Why did you make it black?
Nice presentation. Thank you!
Thank you for watching! 💯🙏❤️🫡
Another historical story/video/narrative that is truly appreciated. Thanks again from across the pond! Cheers....
Thank you my friend, glad you enjoyed and hope all is well with you! 💯🙏❤️
The ancient inhabitants of northern Numidia had white skin, even the features of their faces on ancient coins prove that. They are Amazigh and not Arabs and have no relation to the Arabs. We are talking about the era before Christ, before the birth of Jesus and Muhammad. It is believed that they are of Germanic origin because their language was similar to ancient Germanic and they believed in Valhalla and Odin.
Jugurtha was a Numidian, a North African Amazigh, and he was a white man! Stop this blackwashing.
He's tanned or brown
@ we dont have any of this here we are white.
He was just a good politician.
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Berbers are not black. One can see them in North Africa.
You can’t go off what’s in that region now. This wasn’t from today’s time. Why do people try to erase dark skinned people from ancient times?
"Americans arent brown ,they are white look at america today" that how dumb u sound
So your talking about the new invaders during islams time of expansion and the unnecessary killings of the devils people with no soul the arabs just like the devils children the melaninleas europeans in Austrlia and America. Would you say those are the people of the land 2000 years ago?
Lack of melanin will always mean a lack ofsoul and barbarianisim.
The ancient inhabitants of northern Numidia had white skin, even their facial features on ancient coins prove that. They are Amazigh and not Arabs and have no relation to the Arabs. We are talking about before Christ, before the birth of Jesus and Mohammed. It is believed that they are of Germanic origin because their language was similar to ancient Germanic and they believed in Valhalla and Odin. Numidia is not a desert as they portrayed it in the movie, but a cold region full of green forests. It was filmed in Morocco, a country hostile to Algeria and which wants to overthrow Algeria. They deliberately distorted everything Algerian in the film.
Really good presentation, wish you all the best
Thank you my friend! ❤️💯🙏
This is the main reason Hannibal lost, Numidia defected to Rome!!
Part of them defected, another tribe which in the past supported Rome, then defected to Carthage, so the Numidian’s were always back and fourth they weren’t really loyal to either in the long run
@@HistoryLeaks Carthage wasn't either. Same with Rome. Massyli and Maseasyli were the main contestants of the two. When Syphax switched up Carthage switched up and allowed the Massyli to pay up losses, hence it's retribution for what Massinissa gave back to them.
And even with Jugurtha the Italic Merchants put their own hands to pay their lives when holding the gates of Cirta against him when he wanted to take his remaining rivals
Fun fact: king masinissa married the niece of Hanibal Barca
Thanks for pointing that out! That’s true, and it led to some problems with the alliance with Rome
@@HistoryLeaksHannibal should have honored his agreement with the Numidians. Perhaps the war would have ended differently
Numidians where not black, but north African, berber. I know cause I am one
Lol so for all you people saying Hannibal wasn't black which is about 50/50 and nobody black was in his Army lets not forget the Numidians were black as Flava Flave😂
They weren't but ok
Who cares, Europeans crushed them all. That's why blacks never had an empire
@TomHawks-k8l look up Numidians and there features... It's easy... just use Google and look at the descriptions and paintings left behind by the Roman's then go cry about it!
They are obsessed with excluding blacks from Mediterranean history. Apparently there was an invisible force field black Africans couldn’t cross.
None of them were. Ancient Numidian dna samples show them to be identical to modern day northern Algerians. The rulers were also auresian I.e white
History in Glad 2 is obviously out of sync and Jugurtha was probably more of Algerian descent whilst the actor playing him in the film probably isn’t .
Jughartha was from Algeria und was born in Cirta ( acctualy Constantine ) in Algeria
Interesting video, but what’s up with the woohing chorus in the background?
Thanks for the feedback, will keep that in mind for next time!
Does Jurgtha have any connection to the first gladiator friend in the flim ?
None
with the one in the first film being from Nubia south of Egypt (modern Sudan) whereas this guy was a Berber (Amazigh) and therefore shouldn't have been depicted as a sub-Saharan black man
They look like they could be but yeah they aren’t related
On that note ,can you provide a documentary of the fall of Rome ? And the Tale of Romulus and Remus ? And Pompeii the film . Thank you
@@AdrenaWest787 None whatsoever
Such a talented guy making a lot of dumb decisions and in the end he died pretty horribly..
Why Hollywood REFUSE to use BLACK ACTORS to portray the REAL ANCIENT BLACK people such as the Egyptians and Ethiopians. And I agree that the Phoenicians, Carthaginians, Libyans and Numidians were NOT BLACK.
I know its hard for your racist braincell to process but Ethiopians and Numidians are are black and Egypt was a multi ethnic civilization with black people there as well . sorry your fantasy of black people only being slaves aren't ttue
Have you ever been to Egypt.....I have...And before you bring up the Arab invasion in the 7th century..Aside from the limited Arab population vs the Egyptian population, this was a cultural/religious assimilation not a DNA one. The Copts who can make the best claim to linear decent, are not black. While there were DNA exchange, and even dynasties with roots from "Black" Africa, the majority of Egyptians then and now are not of sub Saharan origin...
Caanan (Phoenicians, Carthaginians, Libyans and Numidians) is the son 0f ham as is Mizariam (Egypt) so they were all black' ,the Levent is north east Africa. the place if full of mulatos now . Also North Africa has whites who are the descendent of slaves of the barbary pirates, research my friend. they are hairy, thats a gene from the caucasus not Africa
@@alexandreveigapereira8727 Stop the NON-SENSE. The dark reddish brown skin ancient Egyptians were the closest in skin color to the BLACKEST of BLACK Nubians. And that is enough to call the Egyptians BLACK and the Nubians were EXTREMELY Black.
@@pharaohmizraim2030 Hannibal The King Of Carthage Was A Black African, Unlike The LIES The Media Portrays. I Can't Wait To See Denzel Washington Portray Hannibal,But That Same Sex Kiss Gossip/Publicity He Started Is Making Me Look At Him Sideways!!! 🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
_I see, the guy who invented the jughurt, didn't he?_ *;-)*
I just watched "those about to die" , and "gladiator 2 "... The black washing of Numidia is depressing , and we can't even defend ourselves because we are not a famous country like Egypt and most of the world never saw our historical figures because they don't teach that in their schools Like they teach the history of the Pharaohs and the Egyptian history , so for real those TV shows are going to implement that North Africa was black in the mind of millions of audience around the world .
As an Algerian I've never said that we aren't African , but we are not black either we are our own ethnicity we are Mediterranean , black people I have their own history show that don't blackwash our own history
😂😂🤣🤣 is not
In my opinion, the Romans would win the Battle of Zama whether Masinissa was there or not. The Romans completely annihilated the Carthaginians in the Iberian peninsula in multiple battles and bottled the Carthaginians in southern Italy without Masinissa around.
Well they might have, but according to the sources, mansinissa’a cavalary delivered the decisive blow to the rear of the Carthaginian infantry, maybe they would have still won the battle but with more losses, potentially prolonging the war
@HistoryLeaks The decisive point was when Hannibal's charging elephants to break up the Roman infantry were rendered useless by Scipio's "channels" that allowed these elephants to pass and being slaughtered together with their riders at the back of the legions.
The Carthaginian's shock troops were not even a factor in the battle.
@@HistoryLeaks les cavaliers numides de Massinissa dans la guerre canae et après de la bataille zama était les plus forts au monde
Algeria the capital of Numedia !!! Morocco 😮 seen
Wow
Bro amazing video jurgurtha isnt well known
Thanks bro glad you liked it, he isn’t well known, not much done on him, but surprisingly so much information about the Jugurthine war in the sources
so where is the evidence masinnisa turned the tide of battle in favor for the Romans at Zama
Many sources state that Mansinissa’s cavalry arrived in the Nick of time and charged into the rear of the Carthaginian infantry routing them
@@HistoryLeaks what sources
@ Sallust, Livy, Cassius Dio
You mean someone did to Rome what Rome did to the world ? Wow 😮
Roman images of Numidians on horse back all look 100% indigenous African (Black) with short locs still worn by no one else but Blacks.(E.g Le Moro Roman era statue in the Louvre museum, Paris, & the coins of Tresimeno i.e Hannibal Barca). All images of indigenous north Africans, who are not in the Greek image of Greek gods like 1:31, would otherwise look Black with hairstyles still worn by people of indigenous African lineage. There is no region in Africa without Black people. North Africa is no different. There is no indigenous north Africans without African (black) blood. Blackness is Africaness. There is no seperating or segregating this because of your anti -Black bias and ignorance. The rest of Northern Africans look Eurasian, because they are in whole or in part, children of later invaders and sl@ves (circassians/saqaliba)
I do agree with what you said about the images of Numidian horsemen, the hairstyles are quite telling. But it’s interesting why then on coins and other depictions of Jurgurtha he has more of a Hellenistic or Roman appearance
Inaccurate - lookup the mosaic of a Numidian farmer from Mauritania Caesarianus (north Algeria). Better yet imagery of Libyans (used to mean Berbers) during ancient Egypt depicts them as white. Most of Africa is black but the north never was (at least what can be confirmed in the last 6000 years)
@@HistoryLeaks The truth is that there were dark skinned and light skinned Numidians, not one group. Like most of North Africa, trying to say that Numidians were all light skinned or dark skinned just isn't factual either way. That's why I think there is so much confusion. If you read some classic Roman literature like Silius Italicus' "Punica", he says that the Numidians, Moors, and Garamantes were all black skinned.
"Now, while the Romans were attacking their
straggling, fleeing foe, with ferocity, Tunger
the Moor, of fearful size, and terrible in arms,
rushed to the attack. Black of skin, his mighty
chariot, and its new manner of striking terror,
was as black as the dusky backs of his horses,
nor had he refrained from adding a tall plume
of the same hue to the crest of his helm, while
the robes he wore were also coloured black."
Also from "Punica"
"Hannibal set his lines in order, along the winding bank
of Aufidus, following the lie of the land.
The Nasimonians, in barbarous multitude,
stood ready for battle and held the left wing,
beside the Marmaridae, giants in stature;
fierce Moors; the Garamantes and Macae;
the Massylian warriors, and Adrymachidae
en masse, they who dwell by the Nile, who
delight in warfare, skins burnt black in that
merciless sun."
Massylians are a tribe of Numidians.
But here you can see that Silius is lumping all these groups of people under the same "black skinned burned by the sun".
Another line describing the hair of one of the generals:
"The Massyli, westernmost dwellers on this earth, came
with their glittering standards too, from the Hesperides.
Before them went fierce Bocchus, the hair of his head
curling in close locks, who had seen the sacred garden
by the sea, its golden fruit gleaming among green leaves."
So people say, "they were all blacks Africans", are false. And also the people saying "there were NEVER black Africans in North Africa!" are false.
There were many tribes and many people who looked black or light skinned, so show them how you want, you'll never be wrong! lol
@@alpharius_nox
They were some dark people but they weren't negros they looked north africans with darker skin i mean the the shape of the head .
And they weren't black their skin got lighter when it wasn't exposed to sun
Romans invading Numidia in 210 AD??? Whut?
He was amazigh and definitely not black and not european white too just a mix like we algerian look today 🤷
Why are you not showing black figures? He’s clearly from Africa
North Africa*
Why should Africa be all black and not Europe too hmm
@@HistoryLeaks "How is the colour of the Moor, darker than pitch, and swarthy from the rays of the sun?"
Juvenal - Satires
Moors, are a North African people, described by all Roman and Arab historians as being black or dark skinned with kinky or curly haired. Not all North Africans were looking like Brad Pitt, most actually DID look like Denzel Washington or Peter Mensah. Don't let these people with political agendas influence you, show North Africans as dark or light skinned, either way, you have many options. lol
@@HistoryLeaks the whole Continent of Africa is black. There’s dark and lighter shades of black…So you’re trying to tell me that small percentage of Africa that’s surrounded by black people, has one percentage of whites? Make it make sense. You can’t go off what you see today. The Greeks and Romans have verified this in their history. Even the History channel has changed its tune. Look up the story on Hannibal.
@@zakback9937 😂 you have to be joking. You can’t go off what you see in today’s time. Do you know Italian’s have African roots. Especially the Sicilian ones.
So a typical roman ruler frim a far off part of the empire
To make it very simple gor you history re- writers......Sahara desert,very much much big...😂😂😂
why is he black?? numidians WERE NOT BLACK
Hannibal was a Black African King 👑 🤴🏾
@@soulsergeant no he wasn’t 😂😂
@@soulsergeant You people have lost your mind!
@@chrisapperley2616according to who?
@@michaelnovelll573 REALITY
Isildur is the ancestor of Aragorn
I’m pretty sure Denzel Washington who was cast is black. At least have some idea what you’re talking about. Ancient Egyptians certainly were not black, as well.
Blacks in America are not black that DESIGNATION was given to people of any shade other then WHITE!😏
"The Egyptians were the ancestors of the Jews... themselves descended from the stock of the Ethiopians. For the Egyptians, too, are swarthy, and the Mauri almost black."
Tacitus - The Histories
"The inhabitants of Numidia are much like the Ethiopians in complexion, living in a land much scorched by the sun."
Strabo - Geography Book 17
Except he wasn’t black…
"Numidians and Getulians are known to be wandering people... Their dark skin and woolly hair show they are descendants of the ETHIOPIANS."
Pliny the Elder - "Natural History".
You see what happens when you do some actual reading? Instead of relying on Metatron or Total War Rome?
Except he was. Pliny the Elder, Arab historians and Jambudvipa historians confirmed this. You may either show true security and humanity and eject the racist lies you were taught by racist lying teachers when you were too young to know any better, thereby becoming a better human being and bettering the planet by whatever small degree...
...or kindly cram your racism deep up where the sun don't shine.
the coolest thing is spartacus born c. 103 BC one year after jugurtha dead at c. 104 BC lol imagine this two meet vs rome
That is cool to imagine, what a crossover
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