Jus found u guys today its soo hard to find a H.E.M.A. school here in Massachusetts these tutorials will be a huge help to me. As its hard to even find a fencing school round here. Please keep tutorials coming
...."NOICE!" by the way, thank you for the video. the unterhau has been always tricky for me because it puts my arm and wrists in an awkward position which makes it unfavourable for me as a beginner to use to attack or defend myself against an opponennt's unterhau. now that i know that core should do the work, not the arms, im happy to try it again.
I just can't imagine better tutorial. so much in such a time, all perfectly understandable. huge thanks to you. only weird feeling I have is that I don't pay for it with gold as it deserves
Personally, I find it way easier. If you really focus on core engagement and avoid push-pulling, having your arms crossed creates a really strong brace and structure. When I cut I tend to mess up the right Under because I accidentally push-pull.
So if overcuts are done by the left hand using gravity... How does fighting against gravity affect the lead of the hands in undercuts? Do you actively push up with the right or...?
I do Iaido but I find these videos very helpful. Would you say a push is a good idea or do you just to follow form and let ergonomics do the work without trying to add a push motion with the impact?
Sean Franklin Hey Thank you for some input, Though I am a little confused about your comment. Push and pull cuts are a common thing in a lot sword based practices as far as I can tell. Maybe I worded my question poorly.
Are you referring to drawing the sword along the surface of the target? If so then no. By doing so you set yourself up to cut shallow, something like slicing to the bone as opposed to taking the whole arm off. That said if you are using a light sword that can't take the arm off (ie Rapier) drawing the cut through allows you to 'slice to the bone' instead of glancing off their clothing.
+Sean Franklin Yes, as the blade makes contact would pushing along the surface help? I study Japanese Sabre, Tachi and O wakizashi (All curved sword with the O wakizashi being the closes thing to a modern Katana for reference) So to ask with this in mind would a cut pushing forward the target on impact to act as a slice work with a curved sword or would I be better off just using the force of the swing with the motion of the body to do the work for me?
Noice! I have finally learned how to do a proper "buuh"! Now I will be unstoppable! Mwahahaha! (Sorry, I have no idea how to spell that, probably it's an ancient secret that was passed down orally, with no written records)
I notice when you sharp cut you first step, then the cut comes last. I see most people do this, me too it seems. But in sparing and competitions you are told to first present or start with your weapon to not get hit in the hands or legs and give away your attack. Are we doing sharp cutting wrong?
Well, if you are sparring in a way that you can't actually cut with a sword I would say you are fairly definitively doing sparring wrong. :) You should never have the sword ahead of your power generation, or it is doing nothing for you even if it does make contact. Now, making it not lag behind so that you can both cut well and not telegraph, that takes lots of practice and skill.
T Koutlosh if you want to change the angle to hit a different target then do so. 45° is just a good starting point to learn how to engage the core for the cut.
I know it is not the theme of this particular video, but this questions keep popping up in my head whenever I see cutting footage. Why is it that whenever people test cut, they end up doing so in what feels like false times? Isn't "winding up" while stepping into measure bad form? The cutting footage at 1:20 illustrates what I'm trying to describe.
1) People speak of the terms 'True and False Time' like they are fencing terms from time immemorial , but in reality they aren't even mentioned in early period sources. Generally when someone mentions the term 'True Time' in a longsword discussion people tend to tune out. 2) Stepping ahead of your cut is much less safe, but makes it much easier to cut. It's always a trade off, in sparring where cutting mechanics don't count people tend to be to far behind with their feet, in cutting they tend to be too far ahead. It's important that we always work from both ends to have a balance. It's really easy to have a true time interpretation that makes you feel good about yourself but will only land touches rather than cuts.
Thank you, the answers are appreciated. Would it be possible to see the demonstration of the effect of the different timings of the feet on a practice target? I'm really interested as I never handled a sharp.
Kind of hard to film without biasing the demonstration to what I'm trying to show. :) The timing of the sword and the feet/core/body is kind of a red herring. The objective is to get them connected so that the power is transmitted. Even if you have 100% perfect timing but you don't transmit the power you still aren't accomplishing much. The objective to to connect the power with the swords as far forward in the motion as possible.
But why the "wind up" part of the cutting motion? You actually appear to violating your own rule about "Strong Initial position" by going out of position with the arms and sword coming out of guard and telegraphing what you are trying to do.
Production quality keeps getting better and better, nice work as always guys!
bluuuuh ! This is going to be a new meme, I can see it ! First you trow a noice bluuh, and then a pommel to end them rightly.
Great resource for basic stuff. Much needed. Such noice. Please keep up research and teaching.
Jus found u guys today its soo hard to find a H.E.M.A. school here in Massachusetts these tutorials will be a huge help to me. As its hard to even find a fencing school round here. Please keep tutorials coming
...."NOICE!"
by the way, thank you for the video. the unterhau has been always tricky for me because it puts my arm and wrists in an awkward position which makes it unfavourable for me as a beginner to use to attack or defend myself against an opponennt's unterhau. now that i know that core should do the work, not the arms, im happy to try it again.
Thank you very much for this video. I had big problems with this cut, but now i can do it
I just can't imagine better tutorial. so much in such a time, all perfectly understandable. huge thanks to you. only weird feeling I have is that I don't pay for it with gold as it deserves
I see I could.. but also I can't find any not that old video with Sean on your channel. would feel a bit weird too. nice to find you still continue
Excellent video, thank you! Wish I still lived in Cascadia so I could come train with you folks. Keep up the excellent tutorials.
4:47 Jokes on you, Im watching this video to learn to defend against the flying bird men who are about to raid my house
I feel ready to practice the "BLUEH!"
Immediate like for the honest live "bad example"
4:56 Lmao just like the elves in The Hobbit xD
Ahhh the lower left underhau. The awkward black sheep of the cut family.
Personally, I find it way easier. If you really focus on core engagement and avoid push-pulling, having your arms crossed creates a really strong brace and structure. When I cut I tend to mess up the right Under because I accidentally push-pull.
This video is BUUHrilliant.
So if overcuts are done by the left hand using gravity...
How does fighting against gravity affect the lead of the hands in undercuts?
Do you actively push up with the right or...?
I do Iaido but I find these videos very helpful. Would you say a push is a good idea or do you just to follow form and let ergonomics do the work without trying to add a push motion with the impact?
Pushes don't cut they just.... push. So no, it doesn't help you out at all.
Sean Franklin Hey Thank you for some input, Though I am a little confused about your comment. Push and pull cuts are a common thing in a lot sword based practices as far as I can tell. Maybe I worded my question poorly.
Are you referring to drawing the sword along the surface of the target? If so then no. By doing so you set yourself up to cut shallow, something like slicing to the bone as opposed to taking the whole arm off.
That said if you are using a light sword that can't take the arm off (ie Rapier) drawing the cut through allows you to 'slice to the bone' instead of glancing off their clothing.
At 4:53 he talks about (not) doing pull cuts.
I can't imagine how you would do a push cut with this particular type of strike...
+Sean Franklin
Yes, as the blade makes contact would pushing along the surface help? I study Japanese Sabre, Tachi and O wakizashi (All curved sword with the O wakizashi being the closes thing to a modern Katana for reference) So to ask with this in mind would a cut pushing forward the target on impact to act as a slice work with a curved sword or would I be better off just using the force of the swing with the motion of the body to do the work for me?
Noice!
I have finally learned how to do a proper "buuh"! Now I will be unstoppable! Mwahahaha!
(Sorry, I have no idea how to spell that, probably it's an ancient secret that was passed down orally, with no written records)
Like most historical German fencing terms the spelling differs from document to document.
NOICE!
1:20 How beautifull ! :D
I notice when you sharp cut you first step, then the cut comes last. I see most people do this, me too it seems.
But in sparing and competitions you are told to first present or start with your weapon to not get hit in the hands or legs and give away your attack.
Are we doing sharp cutting wrong?
Well, if you are sparring in a way that you can't actually cut with a sword I would say you are fairly definitively doing sparring wrong. :) You should never have the sword ahead of your power generation, or it is doing nothing for you even if it does make contact.
Now, making it not lag behind so that you can both cut well and not telegraph, that takes lots of practice and skill.
noice
Approximately 45° cut has no sense if you aer cutting for example opponents hands which is not exactly rare situation..
T Koutlosh if you want to change the angle to hit a different target then do so.
45° is just a good starting point to learn how to engage the core for the cut.
Blood and Iron HEMA Yeah.. you explain it bit later in video and yes I agree. Simplification is quite important for newbies...
I know it is not the theme of this particular video, but this questions keep popping up in my head whenever I see cutting footage. Why is it that whenever people test cut, they end up doing so in what feels like false times? Isn't "winding up" while stepping into measure bad form? The cutting footage at 1:20 illustrates what I'm trying to describe.
1) People speak of the terms 'True and False Time' like they are fencing terms from time immemorial , but in reality they aren't even mentioned in early period sources. Generally when someone mentions the term 'True Time' in a longsword discussion people tend to tune out.
2) Stepping ahead of your cut is much less safe, but makes it much easier to cut. It's always a trade off, in sparring where cutting mechanics don't count people tend to be to far behind with their feet, in cutting they tend to be too far ahead.
It's important that we always work from both ends to have a balance. It's really easy to have a true time interpretation that makes you feel good about yourself but will only land touches rather than cuts.
Thank you, the answers are appreciated. Would it be possible to see the demonstration of the effect of the different timings of the feet on a practice target? I'm really interested as I never handled a sharp.
Kind of hard to film without biasing the demonstration to what I'm trying to show. :)
The timing of the sword and the feet/core/body is kind of a red herring. The objective is to get them connected so that the power is transmitted. Even if you have 100% perfect timing but you don't transmit the power you still aren't accomplishing much. The objective to to connect the power with the swords as far forward in the motion as possible.
But why the "wind up" part of the cutting motion? You actually appear to violating your own rule about "Strong Initial position" by going out of position with the arms and sword coming out of guard and telegraphing what you are trying to do.
kamaeq You are going to have to be more specific as what you are looking at.
I don't like my hero being humanized by showing his mistakes. Plz stop.