British 500cc Motocross GP Hawkstone Park 1984 Part 1

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  • @Ggordonhorseballs
    @Ggordonhorseballs 10 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Carla deserved every bit of the glossing that the commentators bestowed on him before the start. The man was just a brute and tough as nails. I had never heard just how badly he had hurt his hand, and it doesn't surprise me he could come back so fast. I can never get enough of this amazing era in motocross history!!

  • @MrKips1
    @MrKips1 14 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I had just turned sixteen and rode 48 miles on my Suzuki AP50 moped to watch. Fantastic stuff. Bring back the open class I say!!!

    • @ianmangham4570
      @ianmangham4570 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice one

    • @ianmangham4570
      @ianmangham4570 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was the kid who overtook you on my rd50 with big bore kit and micron

  • @turboslag
    @turboslag 10 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I think the most powerful of the these 500 strokers were over 60 bhp! I saw 3 GP's at Hawkstone, and they were always televised, can't remember when motocross was last on TV :( Golden days.

    • @niklasryden4247
      @niklasryden4247 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes. 500 cc 2-stroke is best. about 65-70 hk at the factory bike.

  • @marcusfistarol8270
    @marcusfistarol8270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nothing sounds as good as a 500cc two-stroke.

  • @ataylor7349
    @ataylor7349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Loved that production KTM 495 getting the holeshot. Looks like it was shot out of a cannon at the start. Three of the top 5 are KTM 495's at ~ 4:53. Awesome short stroke big bores - 93 mm piston - that's almost 4" diameter!

  • @mcgoodle
    @mcgoodle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a great track! A true test of the rider and the bike.

  • @Mistertbones
    @Mistertbones 13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Malherbe, Jobe, Geboers and Thorpe, four of the all time greats.

  • @tommccallan8802
    @tommccallan8802 ปีที่แล้ว

    American Supercross used to race 125 , 250,& 500 classes in the same event it was so cool

  • @philipstokes4093
    @philipstokes4093 ปีที่แล้ว

    fell out the tree at the top of Hawkstone Hill ! - Unbelievable spectacle

  • @davedesmon9470
    @davedesmon9470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like a great course!

  • @mikesmith4468
    @mikesmith4468 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I no one thing the 84 CR 500 was a beast from hell !!

    • @CainSample
      @CainSample 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have one i race on my channel...its amazing👍

    • @ianmangham4570
      @ianmangham4570 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Know

    • @talon0863
      @talon0863 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ianmangham4570 shh

    • @ianmangham4570
      @ianmangham4570 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@talon0863 Danger Danger, HIGH VOLTAGE.

    • @talon0863
      @talon0863 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ianmangham4570 ?

  • @jakenobrake7899
    @jakenobrake7899 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Back when the starting gate was full of Honda’s and not ktm’s 😔😤

    • @slagletoby
      @slagletoby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My “15” KTM 300 has 8,000 miles (500 hrs) on the odometer with boxes of cross country and scramble trophies to go with it. KTM comes Ready to Race off the showroom floor with great reliability, Honda hasn’t stepped up their game in a long long time. Most of us all love Honda and would go back whether 2T or 4T, but they’re just not at the same level of quality.

    • @jakenobrake7899
      @jakenobrake7899 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      slagletoby cool

  • @ianmangham4570
    @ianmangham4570 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watched this on the old bush tv, our first coloured set.

  • @richardkey4289
    @richardkey4289 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, nice racetrack, fast, bumpy as hell, nowhere to rest for a second

  • @ben2339
    @ben2339 13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Remember watching this race as a kid, great track! Where have the crowds gone these days?

  • @jhareng
    @jhareng 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brings back memories, for those that dont know the hill went straight up where they turn left, there was a shear sandstone face at least 7ft high. Bomb hole changed as well since last time raced there.

  • @brain8484
    @brain8484 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing in 2020 the bikes have hardly changed .

  • @traceyblay4818
    @traceyblay4818 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i was there great day

  • @shogunlover
    @shogunlover 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kurt is 19 and leading the moto on a 500cc ,very unforgiving 2 stroke.Sure, there's no 150 ft triple jumps but the track is fast.Cool I think.

    • @ianmangham4570
      @ianmangham4570 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very skilled

    • @danoa8859
      @danoa8859 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kurt still races today in California. Still fast maybe faster today then 84

  • @user-nn7nr9mh2f
    @user-nn7nr9mh2f 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Как будто это было вчера ... .
    Как быстро летит время ... .

  • @paulwhittaker606
    @paulwhittaker606 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best circuit in the world

  • @rolwehner
    @rolwehner 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    listen to the sound of those engines, mean so mean, endless power

  • @SamplaysMC12
    @SamplaysMC12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That last hill looked the scariest.

  • @P39Bon
    @P39Bon 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant memories. Have you got more from Race2, like the bits when Jobe was doing the double?

  • @paulwhittaker606
    @paulwhittaker606 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was there that day great times

  • @50337andy
    @50337andy 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @jhareng Four of us went to this race (I was just 14). We walked the track on the Friday and you're right, the only way to climb the hill was to use your hands as well. A tuly awesome track back then. Too sanitised these days.

  • @evo5349
    @evo5349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thorpe is the only one left off the top 4 in the championship

  • @UFO-pd2il
    @UFO-pd2il หลายเดือนก่อน

    E.Geboers.please.rest.in.peace
    Same.age.rider.From Japan

  • @antetutic3600
    @antetutic3600 ปีที่แล้ว

    super...klase

  • @armstrongraymond109
    @armstrongraymond109 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I GREW UP ON THAT HILL BEST PLACE TO BE

  • @jorgebillinger
    @jorgebillinger ปีที่แล้ว

    Maravilloso.

  • @brendanbourke5330
    @brendanbourke5330 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thorpe said he started in 3rd gear with a 4 speed box

  • @grimmriffer
    @grimmriffer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skip to 4.00 mins if you wanna see a race. Love this old vid though! 😃

  • @H3avyHaul3r
    @H3avyHaul3r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, been a loooongtime since i’ve heard the “rort” of some 500 2Ts....can we please have them back

  • @roberteuronimousroberteuro7238
    @roberteuronimousroberteuro7238 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bons tempos

  • @adiblur8953
    @adiblur8953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    29 april 2022 yang masih nonton from Indonesia

  • @jhareng
    @jhareng 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @50337andy Just where they turn left at top of that hill, it then suddenly went steep carried further on around 20 yards.
    Easy course was to turn right half way up the hill seen at start of video.
    Last time raced there was New Years Day 1977 & 78 on a works British Rival.
    Used to work next door until last year that bomb hole and main jump are now really shallow as well.

  • @50337andy
    @50337andy 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @jhareng British Rival, was that a 250?

  • @yenamotor
    @yenamotor 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    apik tenan

  • @pursang833
    @pursang833 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epic track, just like Farleigh Castle.

  • @jhareng
    @jhareng 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @50337andy 125's only around 8 to 10 made, i had two plus a works.
    There was a 4 stroke thumper using a Honda engine.

  • @claudioviegasdasilva5216
    @claudioviegasdasilva5216 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic , shouuuuu

  • @dwaynedibbley436
    @dwaynedibbley436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty sure I was here with my father, grandad and brother..Im sure I picked a tare off up from the track that was Eric Goebers..the kid, he was only 5'6 I think... hence the nickname.. he died just a few years ago by drowning..trying to save his dog!

  • @tobynitro1
    @tobynitro1 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    they should do gp"s there again

  • @suzanne801
    @suzanne801 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    always remember the toilets been pretty rank

    • @aviationiceman9549
      @aviationiceman9549 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      suzanne801 sorry ur memories weren’t of better things 😂

  • @mathster
    @mathster 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who's the commentator on this ?

  • @tjordulf
    @tjordulf 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ben2339 I also remember watching this race as a teenager, In fact had it on VHS for a few years. Always remembered the bit where the commentator points out that Daves son Kurt was in the lead.
    Listen, don't wish to start one off those typical youtube slanging matches, but is it just me, or does anyone else wonder if you time travelled Bubba or Ricky or Travis or one of the top UK riders into this race on their current bikes, how would they do in comparison?

    • @richardkey4289
      @richardkey4289 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The suspension on a modern bike would soak up this choppy stuff way better

  • @markward6076
    @markward6076 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    May as well have a race with only the top five racers it seems like nobody else in the race really matters.

  • @rajindrakissoon4320
    @rajindrakissoon4320 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dad had a bike like those

  • @extrastype
    @extrastype 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    And the air turned blue.
    Some crowd

  • @TheRossirepaerox
    @TheRossirepaerox 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @XXNERVEXX am pritty sure a 1980 cr 250 could be a 2011 crf 250, its only because ama want our money they only allow 2 stroke to be half the cc as 4 strokes.

  • @husky500cr
    @husky500cr 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @tjordulf The bike were not heavy as shit, the bike were very light at 224 lb dry weight they are much lighter than the new 4 strokes. Some of the bikes had to add weight to them during check in time. Honda was famous for this. The new 4 strokes have to use special light metals just to get their weight near what these bike weighed. Why do all the young bucks think these bikes weighed so much. Before FIM and AMA set weight rules the factories had 400 cc bikes that weighed 190 lb.

    • @richardkey4289
      @richardkey4289 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read somewhere that mechanics would place sections of drive chain into airboxes to get the bike up to minimum weight

  • @Markukok
    @Markukok  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chris Carter and Dave Nicoll (Kurts Dad)

  • @Seafarer-Ade
    @Seafarer-Ade 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @broady42 Don't think it was caught on video!

  • @heerkrupp64
    @heerkrupp64 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can see the difference between Kurts bike and Dave's, it's a shame, Kurt was doing great, Dave's Honda has got some go in her though.

  • @ThomasWear-ux4nv
    @ThomasWear-ux4nv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wher was mayson wear

  • @dougiep2769
    @dougiep2769 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ahhh back when anyone with a job that wanted to race could afford it..

  • @yorrakhunt9693
    @yorrakhunt9693 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    RM500 Ebay 16/10/11

  • @TheRossirepaerox
    @TheRossirepaerox 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i wish i born then. back when companys didnt try and make us buy heavy overpriced hunks of junks called 4 strokes, all because they want our money.

    • @malcolmnuttall3165
      @malcolmnuttall3165 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You idiot, emission laws killed the 2stroke, today's fuel injected 4 strokes are as light as the machines back then, with less need too change pistons and rings, which is a 2 stroke downfall, you don't know what your talking about.

    • @sciencemilitia1853
      @sciencemilitia1853 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Malcolm Nuttall Remember he also wrote that comment 8 years ago. And pretty much every 250f from back then is currently in a scrap heap, meanwhile the 250 2 strokes are still faster and still running strong.

  • @tjordulf
    @tjordulf 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cos, even though they're on steel framed, non USD forks, heavy as shit bikes, they are still haulin ass. 500cc Two strokes, I mean, come on! I Satan road a bike it would be one of those! Incidentally, interesting to note the bars had virtually no rise on them and look quite laid back, like my old Husky CR125 twin shock, air cooled.
    Wouldn't it be great to watch this video and suddenly see Carla pull an epic whip over one of the big jumps, or even a back flip. No, thats just silly now!

  • @redheadhume2921
    @redheadhume2921 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    anyone know a alan cresswell on a red rocket cr250

  • @bikesowen
    @bikesowen 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    murray walker,,,

  • @doppies2000
    @doppies2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9 minutes "Highlights".
    takes more than 4 minutes of "commentating"(a Cricket Commentator sounds more excited than the one !) and watching the Starting Gate being loaded. only for the "Highlights" to stop after 2 Laps !
    piss-poor !