Tonight: Britain's Secret Drinkers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Lucy Rocca co-founder of Soberistas appears on the tonight programme and tells her story.
Health experts are warning that Britain's home drinking habits are having a serious impact on the health of the nation and it's largely going undetected.
Around about a quarter of the UK population are drinking more than they should and around ten per cent of the UK population are drinking more than twice as much as the government guidelines.
I thought i'd been secretly drinking when I saw the quality of the video
LOL
i thought you had too.
O...ha ha
Fareplay 😂
lmao :D
Almost 27 years sober. Worth it. I know that I am worth it😊
27 years that is amazing, I'm 5 years 6 months soba and my life gets better and better every day, thank u aa
I drink a certain brand of shampoo- because I’m worth it.
@@adriankingdon3055 I'm sure you got a bubbly personality then
Keep up the hard work....yes its alot of work for any addict to be clean...especially alcohol cause its sold everywhere and legal
Great going! I hope to reach that milestone one day myself. I passed my 11th year anniversary date on the 28th May and I know there's a better life for me, the previous drunk life was a nightmare!
As a recovering alcoholic i can say that it is so much better not having it as any part of my life.
Alcoholism = daily worries of how much do i have to drink, how drunk can I be and still able to drive to the store for more, the hangover, how to manage it, etc. The problems multiply as the addiction is worse and worse.
I can only imagine the damage I've done to my body in my teenage years of hardcore binge drinking every weekend. Blackouts were normal and even funny to us. Alas, no more do I drink, and hopefully my body can recover. Alcohol is just awful
The Recluse young nz ers call it coma ing,drink till b out.
I quit 5 years ago when I realized all it did was make me tired. Now a have a severe histamine intolerance and couldn't start drinking again if I wanted to. That's the best thing that ever happened to me.
Every new day is the best day to stop drinking for good....🍀
Not a lot, your liver recovers if you don’t go to far
33 months sober and don't miss the poison one bit.
Keep the alcohol out of your mouth
Keep going brother!!
You must have great sleep now👌🏻
'I don't want to stop drinking. What should I do?'
'You should stop drinking...'
Best advice ever
Advice that never works. You have to want to stop.
Well no one in her position wants to stop do they...
6 years sober next week. For anyone knowing they need to stop but are afraid of what life would be like without alcohol....it gets better.
Congrats! And yes, life gets much better without alcohol! Craig Beck videos can be extremely helpful for those of you looking to beat alcohol: th-cam.com/users/StopDrinkingExpert
keep it up king
it really does
I have tried quitting more times than I can remember. I always get bored and end up back at the pub.
@@tonymorph3672 Push past that. It gets easier. Better. Take up new hobbies or interests, or pick up ones that might have fallen away from life because of drinking.
as i worked in the hostelry trade i noticed that when the smoking ban kicked in the pubs began to empty and more people began to drink at home or elswear,now many yrs later you only have to walk up the road on bin day and the bins are full of bottles and cans
Fair observation.
Exactly, then ppl get 'rat arsed' at home, in the pub you wouldn't as its not
quite sociably acceptable...?
There was probably way too many pubs anyway. A lot of them closed down around here after the smoking ban came in.
I don't know how people can afford to drink a bottle of wine every day. They cost about £5 each and those are the cheap ones in supermarkets. Wine isn't to my taste, I find it sour tbh.
Heavy drinking trashes your psyche too. If I binge drinking on a saturday I can hardly get out of bed the whole of sunday. If I manage to get out I can hardly see people in their eyes and things like that. I´m so totaly fucked up in the head. If the cell phone rings I almost get a heart attack. This can last all the way to monday.
grimlund you and me have alcohol kindling,googl it
That’s just the fear... everyone gets that
If they stop romanticing Alkohol in movies and shows then maybe the young generations will realize that how much they lie to us.
Wow.....thank u for your comment. It makes sense. TV glamorize alcohol making it sexy and cool. The advertisement of alcohol on tv as well is world class.
They don't actually give up alcohol they just dream about the day they get their next drink .
The difference between alcoholics and normal drinkers it seems is tolerance. People often seem to say a glass of wine relaxes them.. It's never been enough to relax me. I need at least a bottles... Which is why I don't bother with alcohol. Drinking a glass of wine is fine but once you get addicted you just have to quit otherwise the inevitable is horrifying... Prison, institutions, death.
Matt Stocks I'm an alcoholic and also involved in neuroscience. I was on the piss for 30 years and now in recovery thanks to rehab & AA. Vids like this do nothing more than distort the reality of the condition. Here's the reality:
1) The amount you drink has nothing to do with whether you are an alcoholic or not. The proper definition of an alcoholic depends on what alcohol does to you when you drink it. I know many people who get hammered regularly but can still do days without a drink and don't become dependent. Unit consumption has nothing to do with it. If drinking alcohol does something to you that makes you crave more up to the point where you black out then you're an alkie. From a science point of view this is due to the fact that alcohol supresses the GABA system in the brain which stops endorphins being released. In the addictive brain (and yes alkies are the same as druggies, gamblers and everybody else deemed bad by society) the GABA system is happy to be lead astray. In non scientific terms this is the "f**k it button" ... 90% of folk can have a couple of beers and stop & go about their daily business. Those of us with dodgy GABA systems can't.
In the fellowship of AA I've met people who have identified their problem at an early age based on 1 bottle of wine daily and then there are others (like me) who came in later in life drinking 4x this daily. It ain't quantity but what it does to you.
2) Lucy in this video is not an alcoholic. Your comment about a glass of wine not being enough and you need the bottle is the kind of thing an alkie would say but it's awesome that you've picked up on this and don't bother with the booze. You are seriously lucky that you can do that.
3) About 10% of the population are alcoholics. The condition hasn't yet been cured by medical science because there are at least 5 chemical mechanisms going on in the brain to varying degrees which may or may not interact. There are also nature / nurture factors which complicate the mix.
4) The tolerance thing is a weird one for us proper alkies. Some people get to the point where they realize that they have a problem and I hear a lot of people say that they quit because the booze just wasn't working any more. In my case it worked every time I relapsed after hospitalization but the problem we have is that our tolerance level does increase. In my case everytime I've relapsed I've found that it takes more booze to get a buzz on than I've expected. If I hit the booze today it would take about 12 pints of strong cider to make me feel woozy ... that's not a boast .... it's quite sad (& expensive).
5) The medical profession and social services simply don't understand the alcoholic brain. They don't get trained in addiction so can only deal with the physical side of the disease. There is no cure for alcoholism so we just learn how to manage our condition and in my experience AA is working for me.
The social stigma attached to alcoholism is crazy ... and a lot of it comes from people who suspect they have a problem but won't admit it.
I'm Chris and I'm a recovering alcoholic, happier than I've ever been in my life.
Nice one Tone and good luck staying sober one day at a time. There's a saying in AA that if you stand in front of a train it's the first carriage that does the damage, not the 6th or 7th one. Makes a lot of sense.
I'm just over a year in and loving the fellowship. My hobby is music and it seems that AA is rammed full of musicians. Been too busy jamming and forming bands to drink ! I'm only 51 ... one day I might even grow up.
Take care and take it easy ... one day at a time.
@@bubbanderson Hi Chris. Nice summation..
Not of that matters. If alcohol is making you miserable you should stop period.
@@bubbanderson What’s the difference between an alcoholic and those individuals who have a drink problem. What percentage of the population have a dodgy GABA system.
17 years sober. Best decision I ever made.
26 years sober in AA ,If one needs to self diagnose for Alcoholism,quit for a Month and report to yourself how you feel throughout the Month;If you slip chances is you are .Another one walk into your favorite Bar with firm resolution to have only two drinks see how you perform 🤞🏼😜🏴
I freeze my booze then I eat it. Solved my problem.
The best way to stop drinking is to remove the desire, I read Alan carrs easy way to stop drinking, and alcohol explained...true freedom comes when you have no desire...2 years now...and life is amazing.
Drinking on the train on the way home?? That is crazy.
..and that was just the driver! (Not really)
I knew people that put vodka in their water bottles or spirits in their thermal coffee cups on their way to work and drank them on the job.
In this country that's called a scare tactic you will be liable for a heavy duty lawsuit
When a few glasses slowly but surely become a few bottles, then you have a problem...3 months AF here.
I think we should get alcohol out of the supermarkets altogether. If you want a drink go to the pub. It is way too easy now to go to the supermarket and buy a couple of cases of beer or several bottles of wine and get blotto every evening.
If you drink at all, you have a drink problem!
6 months for Gillian needs to remain and never again.
I'm drinking now!! Wtf!!
Beer goggles were definitely on trying to watch this thing. There's two of everything.
The recommended weekly max is now 14 units for both men and women.
Social engagement is no excuse for drinking. If everyone around you takes in chemicals and drugs, which is what alcohol is, as an adult, you can't say no ? Then don't expect your children to say no to peer pressure !
Enjoying a glass of wine. The phrase enjoying is descriptive that says it’s ok. It’s classic alcoholic terminology.
i need a drink......
How is the weather in the uk on average? It always looks so grey and rainy:)
Jesper van deurs usually grey and rainy.
I don't have a drink problem! Says her with a wine glass the size of a bucket.
Drinking at home does avoid drinking and driving, and God forbid, alcohol related accidents.
There seems to be an unspoken underlying premise. That is, a long life of self denial is better than a short life of indulgence and excess.
Is there any data to back this up? Or is simply a reactionary retort prompted by a survival reflex? A short indulgent life may work out better for society. There is a large economic strain that comes with supporting an aging population that slowly declines in health and needs long term support. This is exactly what happens when most people are healthy and avoid bad habits.
The Royal family live forever, and they are bunch of plonkers.
40 people who don’t want to be told they drink too much dislike this video!
Or they didn't get what they were looking for out of the video...
Since this video was made the recommended limits have changed and are 14 units max for men and women
half a bottle of wine a night? bitch please. I drink a bottle of gin a night.
That's tooooooo much.
u need to increase to a handle of gin. Take meth too, so u can drink more
LOL
Your problems in life must be larger than hers..hope you find a way out.
It's not the quantity that makes you an addict, it's the dependence.
There’s nothing quite like being hammered.
What happened to that lady? She was obviously addicted but I'm denial.
I'm a secret lemonade drinker.
@Richard Carpenter That's the one! We're showing our age!
Nonsense. Keith Richards is still fine and he’s been on the piss for decades.
Those are great scores from fibre scan I’d say her liver was healthy I Scored 6.1 and was told I was healthy 🤷♂️
Why would anyone pour poison into themselves.
Exactly, then ppl get 'rat arsed' at home, in the pub you wouldn't as its not
quite sociably acceptable...?
You haven't seen the pubs around my way, obviously.
This is why straight edge is the way to go.
It's all Maggie's fault.
How sexist to mention calories to the woman.
im drink dependant functioning alchoholic ..theres loads of people that have a drink.every night they dont think they have a problem they say i dont need it i like it/..but if you say right no drink for three days ..whatch them become moodey with drawn ..sweat ive seen itthey will become nasty .and if they miss that shop its closed..they will do anything to get a drink./ring freind go and pay double in pub.go to garage miles away...sorry the deemans have got you ...try 3 days without it .......if it hurts ...your hucked.....
Sounds very familiar. I've realised I have a problem for the reason you described. Six weeks since I've had a drink. Most people like me slide into unhealthy drinking without realising, then there's the nagging thought you're drinking too much and self denial until you face it. Theres always a function, a celebration around the corner that gives you a good excuse to say, I'll stop after that. Hopefully, I can quit for good. Good luck with your journey. 🤞🤞☕☕
if booze is costing yer more than money try aa...
Australia is the same
Coster darn cheep
18:07 sadie boniface is sweet.
+1
I drink a few swigs when I’m feeling depressed and I felt that was a lot but I could never drink a bottle or more a night and get up for work the next morning
Good
You can if you do it long enough.
I don't know where this places is at but if you don't abuse it, it is healthy..
You don’t hear the French or Italians bitching about how much wine they drink and it’s more than us! They also live longer than us.
That's because they don't binge.
And they eat healthy meals or snacks when they drink, mostly wine or beer, not the hard stuff which is more harmful to the body. They drink far less that way.
One glass of wine a night bad for u?
no
Absolutely no............
You should not drink every day.
k. g that's absolutely not true. You shouldn't drink more than ONE DRINK per day. A beer a day or glass of wine is actually recommended.
I had a doctor tell me that I should start drinking wine because it was so good for my heart. No no and no.
Too much drinking no such thing drinking too much that's a different story.
The forget to tell you alcohol is a highly addictive drug cos it makes the fat cats very rich 😢😢😢😢😢
1 or 2 Glasses of wine a night? Just a few years ago they were saying that was good for ya!! Nanny state scare tactics
Ironically, the lady who the video focuses on handles her grog really well. Hard worker, successful career, presentable home, good relationship with daughter, weight ok, appearance healthy, liver normal enough. It was almost like the doctor felt compelled to disapprove.
her liver is inflamed, not sure that is 'handling it well' 🤣
All that will change as her alcoholism progresses. The worst damage happens internally before the damage appears externally.
im screwed then, drank since 14 now 28 n drink at least 2 pints a week day n i lose count on week ends
Time to stop ? What are you doing to your poor body
What a load of crap. Just let people do what they wish... yes, people will die but then everyone will die in any case.
Yes, thirty years early and in agony.
Smoke weed people
Half bottle of wine is 2.5 drinks. 2 drinks a day is considered safe by the medical community now they are saying something different?
Hahaha
this report drags on too long
Legalize marijuana
theyre being so over dramatic towards that lady who took the blood tests... your liver is so fucking strong - 1 bottle of wine a day is not going to destroy your liver. not at least until youre much much older if ever. having said that yes obviously not drinking would be better for you - but shes not going to develop cirrhosis of the liver from what shes drinking now lol like come on.
source: i've seen many alcoholics in my life both in every day life and in rehabilitation centers (hospital setting and otherwise general residential) and ive talked to many doctors.
4000 calories: BS
But it is?? 😂
Lifes is better without alcohol. Alcohol has no benefits full stop
*Below is the truth from the Cambridge University study. This show NO benefits to alcohol consumption at all, and it can only do harm*
Going teetotal is the only way to avoid risking health with alcohol, scientists have claimed.
A major global study has concluded there is no safe limit to alcohol consumption.
Previous research suggested that moderate levels of alcohol - around one drink a day for women and two for men - may protect against heart disease.
But the authors of the new study insist that any benefits from drinking alcohol are outweighed by the harms.
Alcohol is socially normal, but it`s a grade A Carcinogen like tobacco. Alcohol is a registered poison like bleach and creosote. Alcohol makes you less intelligent ( long term also) , reduces body hair including eyelash, shrinks the brain, shrinks men's testicles, produces high oestrogen in men and reduced testosterone. Reduces muscle growth and development by up 40 % due to protein synthesis uptake being messed up. It`s also bad for every organ in the body, mainly liver & kidneys. Causes, and is linked to seven different types of cancer.
Red wine is not good for you as many claim, red grape juice is. The ethanol in red wine negates any positive`s and is dangerous.
They estimate that consuming just one drink per day increases the risk of developing one of 23 alcohol-related health problems by 0.5%, compared with not drinking at all.
'Strong association between alcohol consumption and risk of cancer'
US lead researcher Dr Max Griswold, from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington, said: “Previous studies have found a protective effect of alcohol on some conditions, but we found that the combined health risks associated with alcohol increase with any amount of alcohol.
“In particular, the strong association between alcohol consumption and the risk of cancer, injuries, and infectious diseases offset the protective effects for ischaemic heart disease in women in our study.
“Although the health risks associated with alcohol start off being small with one drink a day, they then rise rapidly as people drink more.”
The scientists pooled together data from 592 studies with a total of 28 million participants to assess the global health risks associated with alcohol.
A standard alcohol drink was defined as one containing 10 grams of alcohol.
The team used a new statistical method to estimate the risks of consuming between zero and 15 standard alcohol drinks each day.
Drinking alcohol is seventh leading risk factor for premature death
Globally, around one in three people - or 2.4 billion - drink alcohol, said the researchers, whose findings are reported in The Lancet medical journal.
Each year, 2.2% of women and 6.8% of men die from alcohol-related health problems including cancer, tuberculosis and liver disease.
Other harmful consequences from drinking alcohol included accidents and violence.
Worldwide, drinking alcohol was the seventh leading risk factor for overall premature death and disease in 2016, the study found.
However among people aged 15 to 49 it was the most important risk factor, accounting for 3.8 of women’s and 12.2% of men’s deaths.
For people over the age of 50, cancers were the leading cause of alcohol-related deaths. They were responsible for 27.1% of alcohol-related deaths of women and 18.9% of men.
The 0.5% increase in risk meant that 918 people per 100,000 who consumed one alcoholic drink a day would develop a health problem compared with 914 who did not drink.
The relative increase in risk rose to 7% for people who consumed two drinks a day and soared to 37% for those who downed five drinks.
Any protection against heart disease, stroke and diabetes offered by alcohol turned out to be “not statistically significant”, said the researchers.
Drinking patterns varied greatly around the world, the study found.
Denmark had the highest proportion of alcohol consumers, 95.3% of women and 97.3% of men, and Pakistan and Bangladesh the lowest. Just 0.8% of Pakistani men and 0.3% of Bangladeshi women drank alcohol.
Men in Romania and women in Ukraine drank the most - 8.2 and 4.2 drinks per day respectively.
Professor Emmanuela Gakidou, from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington, said: “Worldwide we need to revisit alcohol control policies and health programmes, and to consider recommendations for abstaining from alcohol.”
20 months sober - hasn't been comfortable, but it has been worth it. my sobriety took jail, several times in detox and eventually treatment, but when sobriety finally took, I am grateful
Good Job 👍🏼
Still sober?
Stopped drinking all together 2 years ago and its so good to have a comma in my bank account again.
Thats that made me stop weekend were meeting up gin bitter lemon £520 month just on gin and thats not included pint bottles of harp
Don´t be fooled. It is not just in Britain. It is worldwide.
Not really, I've been living in Poland for the last 2 years, always thought the Poles were big drinkers, but drinking on weekdays is not common here... unless there's addiction, obviously. You wouldn't see people going to a pub every day. Same in Hungary
No pun intended, but I made all the excuses myself while I was drinking and of course, I ignored the warnings of co workers and superiors. Socially, I paid a high price for calling people while being drunk (even without knowing it). Friends and family members were really mad and some didn’t want to have contact.
It began with a can of whiskey and coca cola, increased to a bottle of spirits every day. Until my stomach wouldn‘t tolerate alcohol anymore. I didn‘t know, that I was dealing with depression, emptyness, family history; until I saw an addiction therapist.
Just speaking for myself, I don‘t miss alcohol and smoking, which I also quit. And I don‘t think, that it is an issue when one is sober while being in a social setting. As far as I am concerned, when someone doesn‘t accept that I don‘t drink alcohol, then he/she isn’t just the right person to meet.
I don‘t blame advertising. Chocolate, fast food, junk food, etc. are also advertised, but I don‘t have to buy it, if I don‘t want to.
bro u called ppl w out remembering?
Bet every 'concerned' reporter in this documentary went home and cracked open the Chablis
😆😆😂😂
one reason so many people drink is to fill a void, society had changed alot and nowdays we spend all of our energy at work and when we finish our Jobs we feel tired and we have not truely acheived things that we need these things can not be acheived in our Jobs or money or shopping. Basically we need to do the right thing and if your job is doing somthing which is not right then quit it.
I understand the sentiment, but this idea we can all change it individually isn't true. It's not possible for everyone to just quit their jobs, it's not how our system works. Work isn't a bad thing, but we don't work for the betterment of humanity, or our neighbours, ourselves ect. we primarily do work for profit(which primarily benefits the profit holders) and there's the issue. Business is pretty soulless most of the time.
FACTS 💯
Life was far harder in the 1930 40 50 60’s !! Back then any money was needed for survival !! We are far wealthier now ! We can afford to booze !!!
Preach. 👌💯♥️
You can live without alcohol but not your liver...
I'm a home drinker because life is fucking shit
The fact that she was so hesitant about not drinking for six months and what was she going to do socially tells me she’s developing a problem.
A lot of alcoholics you will find are in self denial.
She sounded genuinely afraid to cut back 😮
Wrong-she already had a problem. It wasn't just hesitation in her eyes-it was pure panic
Depending on how long these people like Jillian have been drinking you can’t just say stop for 6 months. Cold turkey alcohol withdrawal is dangerous. It can kill you depending on the severity of your problem. I wish they would have talked more about that, and a reasonable plan to wean her off.
Completely agree...the doctors on this aren't seening the big picture
Anyone who uses alcohol as a coping mechanism is on a very slippery slope...
Yep
my wife used to have a bottle of wine each night and a tin of brasso. It polished her off nicely.
i think she should cut down on the brasso.
Nice one 😂
Some things shouldn’t be joked about !!
@@wendycarter5718 wendy have you tried wd40 or 3 in 1 oil ? you might find it loosens you up a bit !
Bwahaha man, this has just made it into my dinner party repertoire, any time someone asks me in great seriousness how my sobriety is going. Hahha brilliant
How ironic to name a beer 'Long Life'.
"Especially brewed to be drunk at home." What a crock of shit. What special process went on in the brewery for that claim then? Wouldn't get away with an advert like that these days. 😂😂☕☕
Hm. There is something to be said for a pub culture - if it means people are going to the pub to drink and socialize where it's a combination of things. But, I can see how drinking at home can lead to more dangerous habits.
45 years clean and sober, love the healthy lifestyle. No medications either. Attend groups through the week. Join us💞
I have to say, theses stories make me a bit thirsty!
Drinking makes me puke
The Uncanny Truth - me too - the third bottle always gets me....
When you think you DON’T have a drinking problem.....chances are YOU DO......DENIAL
Or maybe you literally don’t have a drinking problem 🤷♂️
Yep for sure
Back in the days when men could have 21 units a week...
They are doing nothing different than many organisations were doing addactions, Alcoholics annoynomous. etc, etc who do not charge. Problem drinking will always be here it is left to the person it affects, not to people getting rich out of some ones misery. And its in America as well.
Dr.Harrison Consulting Room L01(Video 19.42) unfortunately does not explain that alcohol affects the Gamma GT function of the liver and alcohol depletes Vitamin B1 in the body which is helped by regular intakes of B1(as Thiamine Hydrochloride). Alcohol also causes damage to the nervous system and causes cancer of the pancreas and other parts of the body "Wet brain" will often occur also causing nightmares and hallucinations, I am not a Medical Doctor .....I simply learned the hard way, alcohol is actually a toxin to the body and the numbness and escape from reality through alcohol is only temporary.An Alcoholic needs more and more to achieve the same effect !
I had a dream a few days ago about my nan saying she drank 15 units a day. This woman really does drink 15 units or 1.5 bottles a day which is well over 100 units a week. A mans liver is 40% bigger so it's the same as a man putting away 70 pints of lager a week! And yet her fibroscan was on the lower end of normal. That means no fibrosis at all which occurs first before cirrhosis which is the scarring.
The size of one's liver can vary from person to person and depends on age. The only reason a man's liver is bigger is usually because a man is bigger than a woman. The other reason men can drink more than women is due to the lower fat content usually found in men compared to women.
Alcohol is a drug. You are getting high, nothing wrong with that but it is a drug and your are using drugs to get high x
You can relax without wine, but with a a good book and a good tv ´ show , cheers !!!
Yes! A hot choccy n biccy
I realized that I was drinking too much I just stopped never had a drink after that didn't crave it.. easy
I stopped drinking because I had to start taking medicine every day. I really don't miss it. I'm not teetotal, but now i find I don't want to drink. It really doesn't interest me at all, especially since I found out how harmful it can be. Always hated being drunk anyway. Good riddance
Drinking wine on the train? That sounds pretty desperate to me.
That sounds cool 2 me & they still let u drink on sum trains so that's pretty cool but I wish they let us drink on all trains & had bathrooms 2...
hahahahhaha WTF :D
Yeah wtf you'd be locked up for that in Australia, at the very least thrown off the train. I imagine she hid it though in a coffee mug or such
@@CovidConQuitTheCensorship no they even sell it on the train. It’s expensive so a wise person brings there own x
@@hhuodod2209 no a wise person doesn't drink that piss lol
Both smoking and drinking are damaging to health. But drinking only can also cause domestic and non-domestic violence, can kill behind or not behind the wheels, can cause behavior and say hurtful things that otherwise would not happen.
14.50 Gillian this is what your consuming alcohol during the week, Gillian, oh I didn't think I was drinking this much? (Gillian) don't toss these in the drain I'll drink them
it is crazy how it just becomes a part of the ritual.
I only drink when I'm awake.