The Wind Did It, I Swear | Sailing Soulianis - Ep. 62.1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
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Glad to be (nearly) done with our bottom job, we move on to our diesel engine, which needs maintenance and upgrades. ‘Course, no boat project is without hurdles. We get a serpentine pulley kit which proves to be more difficult to DIY than advertised, and the wind (yeah, the wind) turns what should have been routine maintenance on our heat exchanger into a $400 bill.
Hopefully you get a couple laughs out of this one. ;)
Cheers!
Lauren & Kirk
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You do know that your ending theme music causes a happiness drop when we hear it. It signals the end of the video. This one was really great.
yea... But it means another one is coming!
I guess im asking randomly but does any of you know of a way to get back into an Instagram account?
I was dumb lost my account password. I would love any tricks you can give me.
@Raphael Desmond instablaster ;)
Excellent content. You guys are entertaining...logical and continuously pause to observe the beauty of this world. Cheers!
Mad respect for finding a way to get it done!
Those are some of the best upgrades you could do to your engine so it was worth all the effort , honest!
FYI the oil hoses are easy to get as you can use hydraulic hose , there is a place in every town that can make up the hoses while you wait , just take the old one to match up the fittings. Or order from ‘surplus supply ‘ online if you are confident of the end fittings sizes Cheers Warren
Totally love the little flash clip inserts of things like daffy duck, really emphasizes those intense and funny moments and stamps your wonderful sense of humour and spirit on your productions...
You guys make really awesome videos. I have to say you are fearless when it comes to doing these projects. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
OK- Great "we shall over come " moment with the pulley-- Hurray== One tiny explain-- Again for the future - concerning the crack in the pulley- suspiciously at one bolt hole. IF- you are dealing with a blind threaded hole- and you have a substance contaminating the bore of said hole (not really matter what- grease oil water) And you screw you machine screw in so as that stuff can not escape-- it will cause a crack just like that one. (VW rabbit diesel head bolts were famous for that) Admittedly there are other causes but most deform the metal a tiny bit. Cheers- love the show Bill
Hey guys, that’s a bummer about the heat exchanger but you could never discount Murphy’s Law! The new one is a much better design and since a good heat exchanger is critical I think you’ll be happy with the money spent, nice to have you back, cheers
Clever clever clever! Loved it but sorry for the pain!
33% larger. Even better than you thought :). Can't wait to see you out cruising again. Stay safe!
Yep, from 3 to 4 is a 33.333% increase.
First, Lauren those eggs looked awesome, secondly, Kirk I had all the confidence that that little kit was just 'child's play' for you. That is, after you did all that re-work in Mobile. I knew it would be installed. Great vid.
Thanks so much! 😊
PS, no matter how much shit happens, you always have Lauren!
Cut a slot in some dowel rod. Slide a piece of sand paper in it. Put dowel rod in drill and sand away on the pulley. It will remove metal evenly. Those serpentine belt are the bomb. Nice mechanic work says the guy who was a mechanic all his life. Getting ready to pull our pontoon out of shed and prep it for summer. Yeaaaaa
I know it’s a bit late and it’s probably been said, but heating up that pulley would have accounted for a good amount of that discrepancy. It creates a “shrink fit” and is very strong but will need to be heated up again to be removed. Just knowledge for the future. Love your videos.
It certainly would have been worth trying, but it would have had to really expand quite a bit to fit. Definitely pocketed for the future :)
In the long run, it's probably $400 well spent even if the original didn't get damaged.
Expensive mistakes suck. I think it is part of the sailing experience. Can't believe you fit that pulley with emery cloth. Impressive!
Hi from LA. love your vids - you show it how it is! plus your editing is superb. in 50 years of boating, never known a boat job that did not to get more complicated
Thank you for showing us how much hard work it is to be a sailboat owner.
Remembering what a great condition boat you guys bought and still so much maintenance... I’ll stay with my Minivan, small trailer and kayaks for now.
Thanks again
Stay Safe
BB
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It is common in industrial applications for pulleys to be "shrunk fit" onto shafts. In this application that may be rare though. The way that the shrink works is the bore has an "interference fit", it will be about .002" per inch of diameter smaller than the shaft. The pulley is then heated to about 400f, which expands it, and installed hot. As it cools it will shrink onto the shaft. But if you are very confident that it is .017" interference (measure the bore with a telescope gauge and micrometer, calipers suck for measuring small bores) there is no way it would expand enough, look up the "coefficient of expansion" for material the pulley is made of, aluminum will expand a lot more than steel, but also melts......
It would be a pretty easy thing for a machinist to open that bore but be very sure of the shaft size when you take it there.
Congrats on the tenacity and the win! Good use of what you have on hand to fix the problem, though if you were able to get it with emery it may have been a shrink...... But in the end what you did was it pretty great. BTW in industry when we take off a shrunk on pulley it often involves a cutting torch.... so ya, not what you need in the hull of boat......
Thanks for the explanation. That definitely makes sense.I was keenly aware that it needed to be exactly right. There's no "un-sanding" something to make it tighter fit again. I expected it might need some persuasion to fit properly. Heat or hammer. But it was waaay off.
@@SailingSoulianis just curious - why not take it to a machine shop and have them cut it out to be exactly what you wanted?
He said it was 175 throusandths of an inch undersize. 0.175", not 0.017".
I think you would of melted the seal if you put pully on that hot.
@@David-ql1hd that is the best idea---- you better be good at measuring and have a better micrometer than he had.
I don't know how you do it, but you guys capture the BEST sunsets on all of youtube.
This mostly repair video should have sucked and been boring. . .But, never have I been more entertained by another man's repair problems. It's not schadenfreude per se, it's the fantastic editing with wonderful outake replacement clips. You two are great!
She is gorgeous. Boats shiny as well.
Shoot...what a bummer on the Balmar Serpentine upgrade kit! We just did the same upgrade and it really was a seamless upgrade!! Ah...surprise surprise...you found one of the solutions and then found a way... ;) Rebecca on SV Brick House
As a mechanic, i laughed all the way through this video. As a mechanic, I also felt bad after because I neglected the fact you guys are on stands without the tools we usually use to fix these exact same issues. I applaud your use of screws and vice grips to remove the seal. Fair winds =)
Take the Crank Pulley to a Machine shop and have them ream it out to 1.251, and broach the keyway to the correct depth.
Not all the grooves on the pulley need to be used. I am very certain you will be fine if you run a 5 groove belt on a 10 groove pulley.....
BTW always have several spare belts on hand and make sure the tension and alignment is good.
Spare belts seem to ward off breaking them.....
My suburban is set up the exact way.... The Belt will find its own grooves on the pulley... No problems
I went to comments to say the same thing.
It's meant to be high-spot pulley meets low-spot belt and vice versa. When high-spot meets high-spot the metal will eat the belt material away faster than you can put spare belts on ;-) Pulleys with a smaller diameter as the crankshaft pulley run with even higher engine rpm's. Good choice to install the correct one.
Love your video's I went back and watch y'all from the beginning to know it's so amazing to watch you guys grow keep up the good work
The wind usually doesn't' cause too many problems when you're out of the water. The real culprit is that pesky gravity. Although my knees and back hate me I always try to work as close to the ground as possible instead of on a table so when (not if) I drop something it doesn't pick up too much speed before it hits.
Hi, i know you would probably prefer to be sailing but I do enjoy the boat work projects videos 👍.
Shout out 🗣Bellingham Washington!! Heat exchanger!😊👍
don't forget to buy an extra set of rubber gaskets for the heat exchanger / spare belts are a must....
Got em!
We have exactly the same alternator and regulator on our Yanmar, it is really great
Wow! Machinist,✔️
You guys are great
Be safe
It's a good idea to have a separate start battery from your house bank and a switch to separate the two... That way, if you are out sailing and something drains your house batteries down, you can always switch over to a fully charged start battery to fire the engine back up. Otherwise, you could end up stranded... ask me how I know. ,-)
Michgander here... We've discussed upgrading from our 22ft I/o and jumping into sailboat life.. Kirk must have some mechanical engineering background or similar field. I always worry if I'd be able to accomplish what him and a lot of TH-cam sailing personalities do aboard when regarding repairs. All the problems that come up and the troubleshooting involved seems like it could be quite daunting. The only thing I've worked on consistently in my life are 2strokes (stand up jet skis). Maybe it's a learn as you go type thing?
It's absolutely a learn as you go thing. If you have experience working on 2 strokes you have infinitely more experience than I started with. The most engine work I had ever done before buying our boat was figuring out how to change the oil in my vw passat. You'll surprise yourself how much you can learn if you decide there is no other option. :D
Can't wait for the commemorative Sailing Soulianis emoji set!
I feel your pain dealing with the heat exchanger and it's hoses in a confined engine bay, a PIA!
I hope you and your families are doing well in these upside down times.
once zinc has filled the heat exchanger to the point that it can break off, it is time to replace it anyway. copper solder joints aren't forever... now if it was bronze that is another story.
Huge bummer on the hear exchanger, shit happens as they say but it seems to happen more often on a boat. I bet there were more than a few swear words when that happened.
As for the mast being up in the Great Lakes we usually leave the masts up all winter and get crazy wind. Things shake and jiggle a little but doesn't seem to cause any problems. My boats from 1973 with the original rigging and no issues, my old boat was from 1962 and mostly original rigging too.
The heat exchanger is made of a silicon bronze, which is very corrosion resistant in sea water. Brass goes pink when exposed to sea water, as the Zinc is electolytically pulled out of the alloy.
Cheers
"Boat Bling" LMFAO! Much more valuable than diamonds! Excellent video, again. Snowing here in NE Ohio on Lake Erie. Thanks for the smile.
Glad you enjoyed it
I am exhausted after watching this video, great job guys!
So good to see no matter how ugly the storms of life, be it mentally, emotionally, physically, or spiritually, are raging God always sends you a rainbow. When the storms have past... What awesome reword for our diluents on seeing it through...
There truly is a blessing around every corner in the game of life... It is our job to find the blessing in every situation. Praise God you did,,,
Well with much love and prayers, may you kids be blessed even more in Jesus name.... BBE..
To stop the forestay from “ skipping rope “ slide a loop in a Genoa shut up the forestay to half way up then tie it under tension to the stern of the boat.
So fascinated by how mellow you guys are about everything. (I'm hanging with you-all when the reset asteroid is scheduled to kiss everybody goodbye.) Some of the mellow must be the camera effect.
Haha much of the swearing doesn't make it on camera.
Ya... we're not always mellow. We try to be, but it's not always possible :)
11:16 - Eeyore cracked me up!! I've soooooo been there. ;-)
Take the alternator to an automotive repair shop both the old one and the new one and they will switch them.
You can get a pulley to fit that alternator we had the same problem , but put the two pulleys together as they cater for a larger belt
Get a couple of spare belts just in the case it snaps at some point.
and a spare impeller for the new pump
Great video! Love the updates to the batteries and engine.
You guys, sailing time .0000001 hrs vs project time 10,000 hrs --- But I love your videos and Kurt is the single most patient and determined man on the planet
one win at a time mate, easy does it, Love the updates.
We used Compass Marine, for our Belmar kit. Rod is a marine genius.
We did too! His website was incredibly helpful. I read and re-read his alternator posts many times while working on this project.
Yeah for boltons...!
It’ll be interesting to see how true that pulley runs.......!? 🤔 I’m, like many, keen to see how well the Coopercoat works!. ? Thanks for sharing and stay safe .
Watching now from episode 1 you guys hooked me straight away watched till 11 episode just today ^^ I'ts gonna be fun quarantine watching your family living your dream. So inspiring and uplifting content, keep it up all the best luck, can't wait to see whats ahead :)
Great video guys I’m still laughing my guts out love it when a plan comes together Later
wow..... good job !!!
Thanks!
Hi Kirk, a good gear puller would make your job go a lot easier the next. Also I want to say it all turned out looking really nice. Good job.
As you may know, “Sailing Uma” , a monohull, just converted to a higher-end electric motor and sail drive. They decided on a brand that allows them to get regen as they sail. Their boat has significant solar and now with regen they anticipate plenty of electricity. The electric engine/sail drive combo provides nearly silent power. Something to research more perhaps. Just saying...this really fits your life style, it seems to me.😁
I'm not a fan of electric motors in keel boats. A multi-hull is another story all together. That's our goal for the future, but this boat will stay diesel as long as Mr. Beke is alive and ticking.
I also follow Uma and was thing the same thing for y’all primarily because there are so many moving parts on Beke and you seem to spend a lot of time on adjustments, upgrades, and failures. You might consider a solution just for less crying, face palm poop emojis.
Sailing Soulianis I tried😁
"with regen they anticipate plenty of electricity." Key word is anticipate. Idk, they might find it does depending on what specific motor they got. But typically those electric motors will need a bit of speed before any regen takes place, like well over 5knts. And even at speeds like 7 or 8knts, that likely will not be a lot of regen power, but ofc any amount is better then nada. This is why regen props are more commonly found on the bigger or faster sailing boats ... like a multi or boats used in volvo ocean race, as they get enough from it that it becomes worth it. Ofc simply going to electric and getting rid of diesel is worthy enough alone for some people. Less maintenance, etc. Needs a bigger battery bank though.
@@kevinfisher1345 you could convert to electric and get a tiny Honda generator that can power the boat and motor and would be virtually zero maintenance and whisper quiet.
Okay, call me bad, but I would have loved to be a fly on the wall. You guys are so thoughtful and careful with your projects. Now we know you don't live in a perfect world , but a few expletive deletes would have been fun. Are you old enough to know where we first heard that term? I think not. Good job, we'll be back on the water soon.
Yeah !! Those upgrades are looking Good !!!!!!
Thank you! They made a big improvement too!
...great job of fine tuning, be sure to keep a spare serp. belt on board, just in case..lol..good video keep safe..
Thanks, will do!
I like watching all the wrenching
Good team work guys...Skipper slow down on F word..may help you get the work done pretty good..I think all the work you did on the engine will be good on the long run..however I personally like you guys.. keep up the good work and be safe at all times.. hope to see more good videos with less F word.. good luck.
Every challenge overcome today, insures a smoother tommorow.
Sure does!
Lookin' forward to Part 2..... :-)
You have made a lot of good choices and your hands on experience with your engine (and other systems) will serve you well as you cruise. Most folks give up and do not learn this stuff and the problems descend on them and they give up cruising. You will be happy with the new heat exchanger--the old rubber cap was a bear to get on correctly even when the lip was perfectly round. I have never been a fan of Balmar stuff--their marketing outstrips their delivery and the powder coating, unfortunately, hides the lack of durability of their products. You can probably get some special treatment from them because of your fame. Good luck. As someone who has a lot of miles on a sister ship in the waters you are about to cruise, you are looking very prepared. Something I find lacking in many cruisers out there. Ray Durkee T 37 #373
Thanks Ray! That old rubber cap was a pain. I tried to put it back on as soon as I took it off (before the dent) and it was pretty difficult even in perfect conditions.
Great job,
And the video reminded me why I don't want to sailboat again :-)
Lol, sorry! But we were only working on the engine! If you can sail enough you'd never have to worry about these parts :)
Ah so you did sand the Coppercoat! I was wondering if you forgot that part ;) Difficult to get it looking like the picture on their web site ;) Hopefully you didn’t wait too long to sand...ours got VERY hard after 3 days (it rained on day 2) . Please keep us all updated how the Coppercoat works for you. We so far think it’s the best antifouling we have used in at least 2 decades...possibly ever. We were very nervous we sanded too much, but I guess not since it’s working well. -Rebecca on SV Brick House
Great job on the alternator/pump job. Pain in the ass but well worth it. I also had to do the same heat exchanger replacement. Smart not to mess with the old one. They are like an old sock. Something else will go wrong sooner than later. And maybe old will make a good spare. Oil cooler and raw water pump almost all that’s left of external parts to service ( except for the mixing elbow). Famous last words ha ha. Enjoy those upgrades! How do you like the Fireflys? Think of going that way.
Loving the teamwork :)
Excellent job guys 👏👏👏
Thank you! 😃
Great episode!
You can find something like this on the Avasva page. Full step-by-step instructions right on your desk.
Tedious work but you do it right..great job and a great video as always! :-)
Thank you! Cheers!
Awesome! Keep up the good work and the good videos!
Thanks!
Great job. Swear words are mandatory when you own a boat.
A boat is a hole in the water that you pour money into. Kirk, ever think you missed your true calling? President of the FED.
Lol
@@SailingSoulianis Okay. Okay. How about "Captain FED?"
YAAAA Boating fun EH!........"Hey Be Safe Out There"
Good work you two.... Raise the Main!!!
Curt can do it all!
Bolt-on kit, that's a good one.
"and torTILLas" ??? LOL
Well don't forget about us in Michigan... I can only look at the lake big waves....
Hi Lauren and Kirk. Long term you may run into issues especially with the main motor bearings if you don't have the crank pulley properly balanced at a machine shop. Love your videos!
Thanks for the tips! That is what I was worried about which is why it took me nearly 3 days "machining" it down. I was extremely careful. In hindsight I should've found a machine shop. I'm sure that would of been a very simple and cheap job for them. I naively thought because it was such a small difference it would be a breeze. But once I started, and realized it was going to take a while I was committed and wanted to prove that I could do it. So far so good...
@@SailingSoulianis No problem. I don't want to scare you, but if it were my boat I would get that done sooner than later (or possibly order a new pulley and have the diameter resized properly). Again, you will probably be fine with what you currently have now, but you could have significant engine problems in a few years if left in that state.
@@TillsonTrucker Heat the pulley with a torch and press-fit it. It will shrink tight into place.
Isn't BOAT an acronym for "Bring Out Another Thousand"
Websters Dictionary defines boat:/bōt/ noun: A hole in the water you throw money into.
I thought it was Break Out Another Thousand? lol
Boats are like strippers. As soon as you stop throwing money at them they stop working.
I also said, “bust out another thousand!”
Kirk, Could you maybe do a few minute long review of your house batteries now that you've used them for a season. They look like a pretty cool alternative to lithium.
Great idea
A backwards hands high-five is a negative high-five, which essentially means the same thing but with less enthusiasm. Your emotions proved the theory. haha!
U 2 r f**king awesome i love mechanic school with both of yas. As a side note I dont mind ya singing either... usually it wud trigger me hahahahahaha
good problem solving 👍
They make reamers for that 1.250 size. A little pricy but would save all the time sanding it out.
Great video guys, inching ever closer to getting in the water. Looking forward to the next episode. Kirk, I would be interested in your estimate of savings with you doing all the work you and Lauren have done versus hiring it all out. That will give me a clue on how much money I need to save for a new boat since I am too lazy and impatient to do all that myself!! Love you guys.
Oh I couldn't even imagine. We're clearly spending more on storage and marina fees than we would if we hired these jobs out, because it takes me a long time to figure this all out. But labor rates are astronomically more expensive. We're definitely above 10k saved.
there should also be a small zinc in the oil cooler..
I mean Kirk!
Lauren & Kirk, does it really help to cuss? Yeah! When you measure once and cuss twice - you earn the beer at the end of the project. :¬) Webhead USA
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That crank pulls needs to be balanced and it's hole was bored to an exact press fit for a reason. The crank is high carbon steel, the pulley looks brass or a brass coated steel. The hole diameter will grow with heat applied Thur the crack heating. The hole that was a press fit, has been widened, and now will be a slip fit or even begin wobbling. You have to remember those parts get hot and dimensions change... The new alternator will give more electricity, but you will pay the price in lost fuel economy. It takes more energy o turn that higher output alternator (law conservation of energy ) nothing is for free, except for solar energy from the sun.
My experience is water flow is obstructed less by zinc bits and more by calcification. Nothing like a full bath ever 2nd year to keep engine temps down.
Hey my pulley puller is now famous!
You have bananas on the boat that’s not helping!