Where Was McClellan During the Battle of Antietam??? | History Traveler Episode 252
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- During the Battle of Antietam, was George McClellan a little too far removed from the action? In this episode, we're headed to the Pry House where General McClellan set up his headquarters during the bloodiest day in American history. It was also this place that served as a hospital where two generals and countless other wounded were treated. Much to learn!
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Speilberg missed a gem of a scene by not trying to recreate Lincoln going at it with Little Mac at Antietam. It would have done so much for the story. Abe's frustration at Mac's inaction, which he even called "the slows", says so much about his character.
would have been a good scene, showing Lincolns' persistence
Didn't Mac run for the office of the President against Lincoln at a later time?
Oh, the irony
@@jc4evur661 yes
He was an arrogant fool! He could have ended it right there & in fact, several other times, but instead was too busy patting himself on back for his own greatness!
Thanks for the shout-out for my relative, Clara Barton! From what I've learned, she contributed much to the welfare of the soldiers and efforts at this Battle. She then when out to connect families with soldiers after the War and founded the US version of the Red Cross. Best wishes from Cambodia.
When my mother graduated from nursing school in 1947 she received a Clara Barton pin and award which she wore proudly through out her 45 year career as an RN.
@@TermiteUSA Nice to hear.
Be Proud! She was truly an incredible woman!
Was she a relative on your mom's or dad's side??
@@TermiteUSA That's amazing💯😯 My mom and aunt (her sis) were both RNs for over 3 decades. It's a noble and much needed profession
Those bills that they wrote for their property reminds me of a place in Flovilla Ga. we visited a few years ago! The local hotel owner Amanda Varner had to use her hotel as a hospital for some of Shermans army in his march to the sea, she vehemently fought and argued to the union army about using her hotel and she wrote congress with a bill for the services of course she was never paid! Her grave is in the Indian Springs State park located there! Quite a story maybe you should visit sometime! The hotel is well preserved and has original stuff in it and the guide was excellent! Thank you JD you are the best at what you do!
Clara Barton's first test of her newly adopted Red Cross was my hometown, Johnstown, PA. After the Johnstown Flood of 1889 she came to my town and set up relief for the survivors. She didn't leave for 5 months. They're restoring a home in which she was placed for those 5 months. Clearly a savior in my towns eyes.
As a retired ER nurse I found this episode most interesting (as they all have been) thanks!
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Great Job JD, I always appreciate how you also bring attention to the civilians effected by war! Being a Paramedic I love to see the learning, notes and treatments from that time, then compare them to the other wars as well. Very interesting. Thank you for this wonderful series.
Thanks! Always enjoy hearing the civilian stories.
There was a great presentation on the Pry family. Being taken over by General McClellan. And Clara Barton. At the battle of antietam. Thank you for sharing!
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Very interesting!! Thank you for taking us along on your journey! 💪🏻🫶🏼👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
Have visited the Antietam Battlefield a handful of times, but never stopped at the Pry House. It's high on my list now, however. Good video!
As I’m an aging stoner in his now later 40s I really love these. Not only for the rich lesson and well done video but I was there golly 33 plus years ago..
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My great-great grandfather’s brother Benjamin Franklin Roe enlisted at the age of 17 and was also shot in the back of the head (his injury at Petersburg) and survived. He lived to the age of 73, suffering frequent headaches throughout the remainder of his life. He married twice and fathered eight children, the youngest born when he was 60 years old.
Really appreciate your insightful, edifying presentations. Thanks! They hold my attention. They address much more than troop movements and engagements. They give a picture of the overall effect of this great, tragic conflict - civilians, military, medicine.
Was wondering where the "Boy Wonder" was during the Battle. Great Series. Thanks again.
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I would like to know more about this guy.His background, profession, etc. He is, without a doubt the best "presenter" of history in the internet. Pleased to shake your hand and thank you.
JD...... again thank you for taking us on this journey through Antietam with you. History is so vibrant when you add your facts to the story. As to Clara Barton....have you ever heard of the expression of Barton's ladies?
JD, Chris and yourself are doing a great collaboration and I am loving all the videos from both of you! Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much!
I noticed the central heating/AC control on the wall. Couldn't have been that bad. (lol) I was touring Valley Forge when a kid noticed the fast food restaurants nearby. The kid was wondering why they were so hungry.
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What a great watch before going to work. The Pry Farmhouse would be such a place to live, so peaceful now from what it must have been like during the war. I had no clue that Mercury could do that kind of damage to the human body. Thanks to JD for another fine watch of American History.....
Absolutely! Thanks!
Here's an odd thought (you know I'm that way). I am happily listening your presentation on a significant Civil War battle the morning after mid-term elections that show how divided the nation is in 2022. I'm not tryng to make any connections. Just observing. As usual another fine report. Keep traveling.
Keep having what you regard as odd thoughts...I suppose.
Love your videos. Super informative. Being a huge fan of the PC game War of Rights it's really nice to see the real battlefields as to how they've been represented in that game.
A very interesting video. I enjoyed it very much & learned a lot. McClellan being so far behind the lines does not surprise me one bit. I'm not a McClellan fan.
Yeah, I'm not his biggest fan either.
Little Mac indeed
Never could figure out what was worse. Getting shot or getting cared for afterwards. Seems to me either way you lose. Thanks JD for another great video. 👍👍👍👍👍
Hard times.
Thoroughly enjoying this series! Adding another place to my bucket list!
Many thanks for your informative and professional videos. What a story!
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Thank God for for the advances they made in medicine. We still use a lot of what they learned on the battle fields.
I was an EMT and learned a lot from the advances that were made because of what the began in the Civil War. Everything they do today has it’s roots there. They did the best they could with they had and made it work.
That farm is beautiful!! Again after the battle the civilians have to pick up the pieces and mover on with their lives which for some to months and maybe years. And some of them never recovered.
Thank you again for another amazing video!👍😁
Unfortunately they had little recourse for fracture repair or infection management. Real progress was made after the discoveries of Pasteur, Koch, lister etc. that would become apparent in the Crimean War, just a bit too late for American CivilWar soldiers.
Necessity is the mother of invention and warfare always advances medical knowledge.
Once again, outstanding. The things those walls have witnessed.
So...there's a video game called War of Rights that puts you in the position of a civil war soldier (1st person view). The Pry House and immediate area was one of the first maps I think that they made for this game when it was in development.
Love the series! Thank you for doing it!
Thank you for such an insight video and for bringing history to our homes. I seen today a different side to the battle field which brings to mnd the appalling effects of munitions on the human body.
Thanks JD. On my list when I find my way back to the battlefield.
Poor family. Prelude of what the Union Army would have been doing in southern houses afterwards. Great video 👏👏
My great uncle's house was directly in ftont on the Pry House on Shepherdstown Pike. When he was still alive he had a barn back behind his house that was there during the Civil War and had bullet holes in it. Lloks like once he passed away that his house was turned over to the Battlefield and they knocked the barn down. Thanks for this video! Great to research some of my family's history.
i live in Baltimore area been to Gettysburg 1,000 time. But only been to Antietam a hand full of times. And i never been to the Pry house
Pretty interesting place.
I love how the houses are still there very interesting stuff
JD, I just watched American Battlefield Trusts videos of Antietam’s Battle with Gary Adellman and it is so informative. I got interested in it by watching your series and wanted to know the North’s side. I also watched Vlogging through History’s, which is very good also.
Thanks! Those are both my favorite channels.
There is some fantastic stories about how the surgeons in the ACW managed to patch people up. One of my favourite stories I used to tell as part of my depiction of a hospital steward was, “A soldier was grazed by a cannon shot, that caused his intestines to start to protrude. His comrades picked him up and got him to the field hospital where him injury was diagnosed as being so severe as to cause his death. He was laid outside and the surgeon treated his injured comrades. Many hours later the surgeon leaving the hospital saw the soldier still alive and had him taken inside. The surgeon cleaned the intestines, carefully replaced them and sewed the young soldier up. The soldier eventually died…. Of old age.
Re General Hooker, what a pud. Minor foot wound and he retires from the battle. Others took four to five hits and wouldn't retire from the battle until they bled out.
I love your content. Thanks for all your work. We have something in common. I was in Przmysl helping feed folks with WCK in March. I worked about three weeks, mostly cooking, but spent a couple days at the Border also. What an experience, eh?
Thank you. And yeah, that was something else. Lots of hurting people.
Great information! Learned something about Letterman at Antietam. Presidio of San Francisco's (my hometown) former Medical Center was named for Jonathan Letterman. Several of nieces and nephews were born there during the 1970s.
Great video JD. We learned something new today. 👍 👍 👍
Loved this episode…watching it again now!
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Besides, having all your facts lined up and having a great voice, for this type of video, you always choose excellent music, which really captures the somber spirit
This has been an excellent series
Ive really enjoyed the Antietam series Thank you sir great work
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Thank you for another wonderful video. McClellan was released of his duties by Grant for being detached and gen hallock was replaced by McClellan. Grant was head strong leader and led the men to battle no matter what. Hallock was cautious and he was sent back to D.C. because of that.
Not quite, McClellan was relieved by President Lincoln for being overly cautious. Halleck had a good reputation, but proved to be no less cautious and plotted against his own subordinates (including Grant). Grant fought without making excuses, and also showed a willingness to lead that Halleck lacked. As a result, Grant became the Army's highest-ranking officer in March, 1864. Halleck accepted the new situation gracefully and performed well as the Army's chief administrator.
@@roberthudson1959 thank you Mr Hudson also after hallock died was it McClellan that married Hallocks widow
@@sherrilee230 really?! I did not know this.
Thanks JD. Love your work. Keep it up.
It was a very interesting video to see some of the story things of the Civil War we'll take care JD making God bless you and your family and the Lord Watches Over You and thanks for the history that we need
George McClellan was off writing a letter of excuses to Lincoln about the upcoming battle and the three after it.
False.
@@josephhewes3923 He was a waffling office seeker. Lincoln's endorsement for his removal was pivotal to the Union cause.
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@@joshua.snyder Oh yes, removing McClellan from command, first, created Second Bull Run and a Confederate invasion of the north. Then, putting him back in charge, provided victory at Antietam, but it would have been better had there been no Antietam at all, but the Union Army should have stayed close to Richmond. Then Lincoln removed McClellan a second time, and that produced Fredericksburg and Chancellorsville. How about that for success!
@@josephhewes3923 You can Monday morning quarterback (many, many decades later) all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that the man was a waffling, office seeker and a military window dresser.
JD been on your channel for awhile and these videos and shorts are what history is about
I love these series!
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There is an excellent description of the Union trashing of the Pry Farm, in "How to Lose the Civil War" an excellent account of the Civil War in general by Bill Fawcett
I love your channel. Found out about it from Sidestep Adventures about a year ago and have watched the episodes ever since. Have recommended this channel to my son who has loved history since he was a little boy( not so little anymore) I think he will love it too!
Thanks! I really do appreciate that!
Id be giddy too after surviving a head wound...well done JD
Ha!
Great stuff amazing video thanks JD
I think I have watched 20 of your Gettysburg videos, and I am serious, get with your 'experts' and make a video series of all of this !
If you’re referring to Antietam, this video was part of a larger series. You can find the playlist on the main page.
Great history, thanks a lot.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have heard that President Lincoln considered General Israel Richardson as a replacement for General McClellan as commander of the Army of the Potomac.
It’s interesting that more soldiers in the American Civil War died of wound infections, anesthetic complications, and disease (cholera etc) than were killed by traumatic injuries. The mortality rate of amputation reached nearly 80% at times. The advances in medicine and science during the Victorian era eventually reversed the equation. The Crimean War was the first conflict during the 19th century in which battlefield injury caused more deaths than medical complications and disease.
Actually there was a 70% survival rate of amputations during the Civil War. Early on the surgeons did administer too much ether and chloroform but quickly learned the correct doses. The advantage of anesthetics was it allowed surgeons for the first time to actually tie off blood vessels, smooth the bone stump, and sew a flap of skin over the stump which left it still usable for prosthetics versus the pre-anesthetic amputation in which speed mattered most but left a largely useless stump. Medicine came SO close to finally linking infection with germ theory during the war. A few years after the war ended germ theory was discovered and surgeons would look back in horror at how they operated during the war.
@@tomservo5347 Depends on your definition of survival of course, hence the “at times.” If survival was defined as living through the procedure the data looked different than if survival was medium term including death by iatrogenic infection or long term blood loss. For instance the survival rate of an upper arm injury like stonewall Jackson’s had a 24% mortality rate. Unfortunately he died of inhalation pneumonia secondary to the anesthesia. The mortality rate of an amputation because of a femoral injury like John Bell Hood’s was 83%. The closer to the torso the injury the higher the mortality. You’re correct of course it was 1865 when Lister began his initial efforts toward ascepsis in surgery.
@@Chiller01 Check out the book 'Gangrene and Glory'. The author (a surgeon) wrote it with the medical knowledge of the time. He went into detail about Jackson's wounding. After Jackson was wounded he was carried in a makeshift blanket litter and dropped; Jackson cried out in pain and it's speculated he landed on a stump or rock. His stump was healing nicely, but Jackson complained of pain in the chest. Doctor McGuire applied hot compresses that seemed to help. Jackson ate heartily the next day and even played with his daughter. That night the chest pain returned and not wanting to bother McGuire's sleep Jackson had his servant apply compresses except they were cold; Jackson rapidly went downhill afterward. Interestingly the author speculated that Confederates ate a corn based diet of cornmeal that lacked Vitamin A which led to Confederates being night blind. Jackson was shot by his own men at dusk. Northern troops that ate wheat based crackers didn't have the night blind issue by contrast.
I've seen the horrific infected bones removed by surgeons years after the war that caused continuous pain and discharged pus. All from unclean sawbones and used from the original amputation. Amazing how surgeons fully expected 'laudable pus' to appear and took it as a sign the body was healing itself. Clear, foul smelling runny pus was a sign of sepsis and nearly always fatal. I was also unaware of how much tetanus from shrapnel was a problem during the war. They did however discover the remarkable effect bromide had on hospital gangrene; however the patient had to be anesthetized for the procedure.
@@tomservo5347 I don’t mean to flex Tom but I’m a surgeon. My understanding is that Jackson died of pneumonia. The cause was most likely aspiration of regurgitated stomach contents during anesthesia when epiglottic function is depressed. Because the epiglottis doesn’t seal off the airway when the patient regurgitates, acidic stomach contents are inhaled into the lungs. Depending on the volume of the contents this often manifests hours to days after surgery when the resulting infection advances. This is still a risk today which is why you can’t eat the day of surgery. The risk is much less cause nowadays we put a tube down the trachea and blow up a balloon surrounding the tube to seal off the airway and prevent any aspirated material from going down into the lungs. Unfortunately in the American Civil War the advancements in arms and artillery preceded the advancements in medicine.
His headquarters was within good distance of the battlefield. Other generals like Grant and Sherman set up HQ at about same distance or further yet no one raises any issues with it. The main shortcomings were not employing all three corps at the same time and development of cohesive battleplan. It enabled Lee to shift his army on equal terms instead of achieving numerical superiority.
JD.. do you have any plans on visiting areas like Fort Fisher in NC at the mouth of Cape Fear River or perhaps Battleship North Carolina?? Savannah is a great place of history as well. You do an excellent job in how you explain your work.
Wow! Awesome history!
Glad you enjoyed it
Had to make a new account buddy gotta get caught up on videos hope u are well an had a good thanksgiving
Very interesting. Great video 👍🏼😎
I've recently learned that George McClellan was a railroad manager before President Lincoln persuaded him to replace Winfield Scott. From his earliest years, Abraham Lincoln was deeply in-thrall to railroad dreams and schemes and ignored McClellan's earlier partisan / political machinations to 'side-track' his election. The issue in 1860 was not slavery, but Federal sponsorship of infrastructure improvements, primarily the route of the first trans-continental railroad. Jefferson Davis personally surveyed the route through Santa Fe, New Mexico.
Great vid JD love ur content.
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Have been there. Was also a field hospital.
Yep! We talk about that in the video.
Somebody wasn't paying attention.
Thanks!
I enjoy your channel so much! One of my favs is the Ukraine series. I have this question for you-why was your WW2 series of war in the Pacific so short and lacking in the intense detail of your other work?
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I still find it hard to believe the number of wounded who survived during the Civil War, the actual treatment they received by the standards of the time were evolving during every battle, but the conditions that they were treated under were not as sanitary as they needed to be, infections after surgery or treatment must have been rife, the surgeons used the same equipment time after time without any form of cleaning, and that had to introduce infections and developed into things like sepsis and gangrene and that must have led to increased mortality rates, but when you watch documentaries about the treatment and recovery of the wounded it is more impressive the number of soldiers who survived than passed on, field surgery/treatments must have advanced by a number of years quicker than if there wasn’t a civil war and even now every wounded person, military or civilian, brings new treatments and procedures that save lives, counter intuitive that a war can result in better treatments for people trying to kill each other. Thanks for another splendid edition to the Civil War story, interesting and informative as always, thanks J.D. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴🇺🇸🇺🇦
Sharpsburg is the right name for the fight there
Either/or
Murfreesboro/ Stones River
Pittsburgh landing/ Shiloh Church
War Between the States / War of Northern Aggression/ Civil War
Spotsylvania / The Wilderness
Manassas Courthouse/ Bull Run
North and south had differing names for a lot of battles and even for the war itself
Confederacy lost either way.
@@thomashunt413 you lost ya dam yank
More great stuff.
Could you please do a video about the Northern Virginia in the Shenandoah valley on Shirley’s hill ? Field of lost shoes
where did the Pry’s go during the takeover of their house?
The VA looking at tht med book be like "5%, 10, 5, 5, 10, wooo missing half your face? 10, next"
as far as i know, the union reserve photo is the closest a camera ever came to a live civil war battle
I see McClellan's light blue portapotty! (It's at a little shy of 3 min in). LOL.
Confederate portapotties were of course gray. But seriously, a long ago ancestor was a Union ambulance driver. A letter survives to his wife, who worked for the Springfield Armory, Chicopee, Mass. "Excellent with horses," he was pleased to be recognized for that and promoted to be a Driver/medic in Gen McClellan's new ambulance corps. McClellan was a terrible fighting general, as you know. But he was an excellent and thoughtful organizing general. Besides establishing ambulance corps for the Union, McClellan got the Army logistics for supply, equipment, etc straightened out and built up. My ancestor likely served during Antietam.
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Thank you too!
It is interesting to note that McClellan never got close to ANY of the battles that took place when he was in command of the Army of the Potomac. To me, there is an obvious reason for that.
That's a pretty nice house
Very interesting chain of events. Did the Prys ever get compensated by the government for their losses suffered by the Union Army settlement of their home and property?
At the beginning of the video a chart showing the Pry House in relation to the Dunker Church was shown. But there was never a distance given, eg., yards or miles as the crow flies. How far was it?
1.7 ml, 2.8 km; with a river in the way.
@@stephendesmond1511 Thanks! That does seem like a rather long distance considering the weapons and communications of that day.
I have always read about how disappointed President Lincoln was in McClellan…I view him as inept , at best!
JD is the second coming of Shelby Foote.
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Except he's probably a better historian...
I mentioned that my house in Downsville was used as a triage during Antietam, but I feel I need to mention that my grandparents house was upon a hill in Williamsport known as Hospital Hill. That name came from there house being used as a hospital. I wish I could find some records of that. Maybe you can find that?
I would maybe reach out to a local historical society. They'd be in a much better position to find that than me I would think. Very interesting though!
@@TheHistoryUnderground the house was used during the retreat from Gettysburg by Lee when he crossed the Potomac here in ‘63.
11:13 Nightmare inducing
how long would a dispatch rider take to reach?? burnside bridge? west woods?
McClellan was a do nothing General, I'm surprised Lincoln didn't drum him out of the service
The North was so, so lucky they got Lee’s plans. I believe the outcome of the war would’ve been different
Mercurochrome was used up until 1998 as an antiseptic until it was phased out.
So, were the Pry compensated? Imagine doing that today.
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Where was McClellan? He was hiding behind a whole Corp that was never used asking for another 100,000 men and equipment. If Lee hadn’t come north, McClellan would have still been training the army outside of DC complaining he needed more men.
Also that.
Antietam was far more important than Gettysburg. At Antietam, the Confederates actually had a shot at winning the war. The Battle of Antietam is the true "High water mark of the Confederacy."
Idk about more important....but definitely overshadowed by and perhaps underestimated by many
I’d agree if the Confederates had a chance of holding the field after Antietam
I can't say that Antietam was the high-water mark of the confederacy, because if the Union loses at Antietam there isn't much at stake. Whereas if the Union lost at Gettysburg, many cities would've been under threat of attack, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, New York City, etc. Like Pamela Oliver said, I'm not sure about importance, but definitely overshadowed.
I always interpreted the phrase "high water mark of the CSA" more literally, in that Gettysburg was the farthest north the Confederates got in a meaningful way.
Almost every battle the confederates come up short, its like they were doomed from the beginning.
Are we sure the facial injury wasn't due to syphilis? It's known to produce lesions like that.
Hmmmm.
Civil war's most lucky foot, or civil war's smallest bullet ever. You be the judge
In my opinion, McClellan was a great organizer and a great General on paper. In the field, he lacked the confidence to commit fully. It didn't help that Allan Pinkerton and his spies greatly overestimated the troops the Confederates had. Love the old house and the stories about the wounded there. Can't imagine surviving a bullet wound to the back of the head, damn.
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Where did the Prys live while there home was taken from them ?
I'm not a big fan of McClellan either. He was a great organizer, and much of the later success of the Army of the Potomac can be traced to his organization and training work. He could also handle the army well, and his strategic plans were more than sound. He was not, however, a fighting general. On more than one occasion he had the Confederates where he wanted them, but he was overcautious and failed to push his advantage, like Antietam and the Virginia Peninsula. Some say he was afraid of casualties, and was loathe to order the destruction of his creation. He was also vain and combative, and had the temerity to publicly criticize President Lincoln. Kind of an unpleasant character.
That way was so vicious