So what you're telling me is that within a week you're able to find someone on the missing persons list if they allegedly slay a millionaire, but when it's a child or everyday person they will go years, decades even, before they are found?
Not a fair assessment. Several of his pictures and moves including the murder itself were circulating all over the world. It has no direct link to social or income status otherwise they would have found him when his mother reported him missing over a month prior to the murder.
Don't get it twisted our brothers and sisters are still being denied....and they are dying.....this probably won't be the last time ....as a matter of opinion it may Starr happening regularly
Everyone loves to say "violence is never the answer" without reconciling the fact that a system that allows horrifically painful and preventable deaths to occur and dehabilitating life conditions to perpetuate for profit is inherently violent. We've just created so many degrees of separation between the victims and perpetrators that the recognition of violence is distorted.
@@GigaTele So how do you know that all claims that were denied were for profits. Have you done an audit to quantify and qualify legitimate claims from illegitimate ones? I was myself a victim of medical malpractice exactly because the doctor lied to the insurance company about my condition so that they would approve surgery. In the process, they almost killed me in the OR. Things are not black and white as some people think. There are grey areas in this whole thing.
I worked as a contract worker for Blue Cross as a health claim representative for a good 2 years. They use AI software to help the company stay profitable. The AI software automatically denies patients who are deemed to be too expensive for the company to cover. Then an automatic rejection notice is printed, sent out to the recipient. I believe we denied about 21% of insurance claims. It has gotten so bad throughout the years.
They should be more honest and take the word Care out of Health Care. They should also remove the word Cross because they have nothing to do with Jesus Christ' unselfish sacrifice. Shooting a person in the back is not the answer this: Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. [Rom 12:19 KJV] The righteous cry, and the LORD heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles. [Psalm 34:17 KJV]
No they undoubtedly deny more than that, I got charged over 3k for two hours in the emergency room for receiving an electrolyte IV from getting salmonella from chickfila in 2018, I couldn’t keep fluids in for 8 days, I was hallucinating and on death’s door. We had blue garbage plastic sheet shield, they denied our claim after paying $1800 a month for four years! Unbelievable criminality, maybe another Luigi should examine them too.
Unfortunately, it was because of your line of thinking that I became a victim of medical malpractice... the doctors implanted a pacemaker in me that I didn't need but scared everyone including the health insurance company I had at the time to believe that if I didn't have one that I could die....Four second opinions later, we found out I never needed that pacemaker...the doctor lied to the insurance company and made it sound like I needed an urgent surgery and to make matters worse they punctured my lungs in the process and I had a collapsed lung. So, remember, things are not that simple! There are unscrupulous doctors that in order to boost their profits they make false claims to the insurance company, it is called insurance fraud.
every level of govt is a corporation as well. inc feds, state, local. They all have a profit motive. and control motive. you can say every corporation is mismanaged, and greedy. and they are. try to audit any govt agency. see what you find.
I was a mental health professional for almost 40 years and the healthcare system is what finally broke me! I loved my clients and listening to their stories and helping them find solutions was so rewarding. But having my claims repeatedly denied and delayed finally made it impossible to do my job.
Its not about Luigi or the CEO. Its about the numbers. 64,000 fatalities. 34% denial rate. UHC made 20 Billion profit last year. When you go to the hospital its about the numbers $$$. American health outcomes rank last of the 10 high income countries. 1/2 of the American people living paycheck to paycheck. CEO's making MILLIONS $$$. 1% have more wealth than the bottom half. This issue wouldn't even be a issue if it were not for the "NUMBER OF PEOPLE" who are angry. Address the numbers, because in the end that is all that matters in this cold calculated country we live in. The Numbers are not political. The numbers do not lie. The numbers are not angry or happy. Look at the numbers and address them. "Its not personal, Sunny. Its business!"
Wait… and then the companies are hacked and our information stolen… you can plant a seed on anyone, and may be he was not the shooter or anyone of us. Maybe there are a big one/one’s interested in Disap.. the ceo.
Insurance is denying treatment for their customers. We pay them... how many Insurance policies do you actually have to pay for to benefit from the care. Insurance needs to be held accountable.
My insurance co. will not approve a medication that my daughter needs. We pay $943 monthly premium & her doctor wrote the script. What's wrong with this picture? Everything.
Do you really not understand why some claims are denied? Every healthcare system in the world has claim denials. If you pay high taxes to get socialized healthcare like the UK & Canada, they technically cover less than the US system. Do you think that socialized healthcare just covers every procedure for everyone in society? You think they approve endless rounds of chemo for 90 year olds? Of course not. The system can’t bankrupt itself for every person. At some point, you’ve got to accept that the world doesn’t owe you anything. Save money to pay for your own medical care, buy private insurance, apply for disability if you qualify. Or apply for citizenship elsewhere
can't wrap my head around it, you go to the store you pay you get product, you get insurance, you pay you get denied. makes no sense whatsoever and the fact that this has been the norm and it's not illegal is weird.
“the health care system doesn’t work how it should” “our mission is to help make it better” coming from the company that profited the most in the industry, on top of having the highest denial rate. there are literal ongoing investigations into their 2023 earnings where they made a staggering $251 billion, yet there are claims that over 50 million of their clients have cases for premature deaths due to their unlawful denials. “our mission is to help make it better” no you’ve been trying to take advantage of it, and now you’re being called out. i just can’t believe the sheer audacity this guy has to say something like that.
It was about to be “ better for UHC”- Trump nominated a UHC half million $ share holder of UHC- Dr. Oz, the unqualified quack who promised to privatize Medicare and Medicaid! Pay attention to the most recent harbingers of doom for the 99%.
What we’ve learned is that there is absolutely no need for private health insurance. We need single payer universal healthcare coverage. Doctors should be the ones deciding what treatment we receive not insurance executives.
Liz is there pockets thanks to Obamacare..Show me a rich politician and I’ll show you a crook she’s my representative of my commonwealth and she’s awful
That was complete BS. They want to continue to line their pockets but not be held accountable. UHC just moved another crook into Thompson’s position. The only change is that they will have protection and hide their faces as best they can.
They stopped putting a timer on anesthesia after his his death. They know what they’re doing is wrong or else they wouldn’t be so reactive towards a “crazed”shooter.
The only thing theyre honoring about the dead CEO, is the money they can now split amongst themselves while theyre still on this mortal earth. Lets be real here, none of these people in this business care about a single life other than theirs and their own families.
@@TheWorldisRaw They do, in every possible way. They have a lung cancer vaccine, and we don't. They graduate more doctors than most other nations in the world. Cuba does most things better than we do, and certainly value the lives of their citizens more than the U.S. could ever dream of.
@ you should see what Cuba is really like. They have restaurants that can barely put out spaghetti due to power outages. Stores have nothing in them. In the Michael Moore documentary he goes into a pharmacy that is totally bare and the camera cuts and the lady turns around and pulls some medicine out of a drawer even though they don’t even have any lights in the building. When a store gets a shipment of jeans they get mobbed because it’s so rare to have any goods. It’s not good at all. It’s a nightmare.
😂 he confessed in a journal they found on him, his fingerprints are on the weapon, & he had the silencer used in the crime. Also facial recognition confirmed his identity
There’s actually a ton of evidence including ballistics matching those at the crime scene to the gun Luigi had, a writing manifesto he wrote, dna from a water bottle at the scene, and fingerprints all match Luigi. This is called “physical evidence.”
Or, maybe he sought help with pain control from those in the MK-Ultra wheelhouse...maybe they saw an opportunity to create a patsy through medication...
That's right folks. If your child goes missing, it can take years or just dumb luck to find them, but if someone kills a CEO for being a murderer for hire, it just takes one a reward and a snitch to find him.
@@B86432 - As I understand it, Luigi’s father and mother are divorced. And Luigi and his mother don’t have access to any “family money”. That was just what I heard.
@@B86432doesn’t matter what his economic back ground is he still risked his entire future to attempt to make change and speak for the poor citizens of America that have had their lives ruined by these predatory health care companies. Sure he was born wealthy, but he still made more of an effort to make change for American citizens than you have 🤷♂️
No, not considering. They're just biding their time and giving lip service, hoping it'll pass until they can sweep this all under the rug and continue on like nothing ever happened.
They aren't considering it yet, they are scared that they can't get control of the narrative, because they like the status quo. Too bad that they haven't realized the status quo has changed. They need to change it before someone they cannot catch comes along. I hope that they do.
Be careful of what you say to your therapist these days, everyone. They’re required to report you to the police if you make a threat, even if it’s just venting. And they don’t have to tell you they made the report.
how 'bout stop going to "therapist" at all. do you really need another human being to tell you how to think, behave, and live? save your money, follow your inner voice of what is right and wrong, its not too difficult, i promise.
Agree. Exercise, have a pet, make sure you have a regular income, travel if you can at least in the state line and have friends to have fun, use chatgpt, write daily. Problem solved.
NYC is mad because Luigi allegedly killed an elite in an area under their supposed watch. The shooter embarrassed them and they want to punish him to the max.
Pain breaks good people. We aren't respecting our health at the national level and it will catch up and get us like Luigi got the boss of United Health.
I just saw a TH-cam video, showing the photos of the suspect with a mask over his nose and his hood up. That was the initial first photos, compared to the mug shot of this Luigi Mangione. The TH-cam video points out that the eyebrows are different, and so are the eyelashes. The suspect had a wider gap between his eyebrows than Luigi Mangione has… How do you explain that away?
Family has made statements and so have other ppl that know him. the one pic of him shirtless in Hawaii or somewhere is almost from the same angle as the security cameras and shows how they are the same exact face.
This would come as a shock to a parent whose kid was an engineer and a valedictorian. Like there would be so much disbelief because it was out of character.
As the CEO of a biotech company involved in many different committees and groups working towards fixing the healthcare system i can tell you exactly what's going to happen .... Nothing
As someone with debilitating pain from several back injuries and 6 autoimmune diseases, the problem isn’t with my insurance…it’s my state’s ridiculous policies on prescribing pain meds. They are the strictest in the nation and I no longer have a life. I’m not able to get any pain meds prescribed so for all intents and purposes, I am bedridden. I don’t see my grandchildren anymore because I developed severe nerve damage in my legs and feet. I am no longer able to drive. Unless a person with severe pain does their due diligence and research who really is at fault, they’ll assume it’s their specialist or insurance when in fact it’s the DEA.
@sandyaw3057 - I am in the exact same situation as you, except I am not bedridden. At least you can know that you are not alone. I don’t know if that helps. It was trump, during his first term, that made the states tighten up giving out pain meds.
Yes. The ultra wealthy elite class can afford to invest in insurance policies but not regular working class. It’s completely unaffordable even for the average nurse or plumber’s family.
yeah, right? that's rich, "honor" his legacy--of killing people through denying them health coverage? they are telling us exactly that they'll do nothing to fix this--too greedy.
@@sheasavvy8155Not a threat good lawyer can argue that in court. They would have to unequivocally prove she is a threat. The charges will most likely be dropped. Tactics to scare people into being quiet.
Brian Thompson was under-investigated by the DOJ for inside trading 2 weeks before he was murdered. Luigi Mangione disappeared from San Francisco police radar 1 week before he surfaced again in NYC. Who is the big name in San Franciso, and whose husband was investigated for inside trading? Karma is taking a toll on that person.
Nancy happens to have family mob ties. This guy is obviously Italian and conveniently removed the guy about to sink her with testimony, now she's mysteriously abroad for no good reason and falls for a little sympathy,? 🤔
The ONLY bag he was seen carrying [that had Everything] was his backpack and He discarded it in Central Park, then they caught him at McDonald's in PA with everything ? makes Sense?
Insurance companies are thiefs with license and a tie in their neck to look professionals. Insurance companies is a mono-pole that take your money but dont pay when they are suppose to. and I am talking about ALL types of insurance, medical and motor. Extremely expensive.
I have known at least 3 people who have had back surgeries making their back issues worse. It’s like these poor patients are treated like Guinea pigs!!
😂 it's not hard to find someone's daily schedule, personal information or location. You don't even have to put in that much effort once you got their workplace details and dude was a CEO so dozens of people a day would not only have access to his whereabouts and personal information but would be coordinating every little detail of his day.
They need to leave his parents alone. He acted ALONE. The CEOs and billionaires don’t care when people are getting no coverage! I don’t see police hunting down murderers like this in other cases! CEOs lives aren’t worth more than the lives of other Americans!
I keep thinking about Luigi’s mom, please pray for her, too . As a mom of 24 years old data scientist, I can feel how she is going through . I pray for Luigi who would get minimum fine. Give him a chance to be a useful talented engineer for US. I know it is crazy to forgive a murder, but we understood why it happened
The legacy of making the bigshots around the company and the board of directors a ton of money from letting people die or go bankrupt. Dying for greed, so the bigshots around him could live a life of absolute luxury off that same greed without anybody knowing their name.
A large number of people died, because they were denied the much needed treatments. Not to mention the fact that corporate greed destroyed entire families, because they couldn't pay these insane health care bills and went bankrupt.
"Investigators are still trying put together a motive." The man was found with the clearest, most concise manifesto of all manifestos to have ever manifestoed.
A family member of mine has been missing for three years and the police could care less. They hardly even looked and gave up almost instantly. It's funny how rich and powerful people get totally different treatment. All they do is use us for profit. Our lives mean nothing to corporatists. What an evil country America has become..
If you knew any Italian or Greek men, you would realize how POSSIBLE this is...we had a friend who COULD have shaved 3 x/day. He DID shave 2x/day and always seemed to have a "shadow"...each time I see this comment, I scratch my head. I could be wrong, but think this is possible.
Did he stop talking to his family because they’re complicit in health care and patient abuse via their poorly rated nursing care facilities? I mean, I would, too.
Get the government out of the way and let insurance companies compete again. Provide the best service at the best price or lose customers to a company who does.
![Luigi Mangione pleads not guilty [RAW]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JPf-vzvvWRI/mqdefault.jpg)
So what you're telling me is that within a week you're able to find someone on the missing persons list if they allegedly slay a millionaire, but when it's a child or everyday person they will go years, decades even, before they are found?
Yes... Are you new to the American justice system?
Pretty much
Didn’t even think of this, insanely good point
He was caught in 4k. A lot of missing person cases could be solved if the person committing the crime is caught on camera too
Not a fair assessment. Several of his pictures and moves including the murder itself were circulating all over the world. It has no direct link to social or income status otherwise they would have found him when his mother reported him missing over a month prior to the murder.
Imagine if police investigated all murders like this
you mean by obviously planting evidence. they used to do that, it was called the dark ages.
Doctors charge egregious amount and nobody bats an eye
Insurance refuses to pay that egregious amount and everyone loses their mind
I think the main problem is money
Who’s to say they don’t?
Can yall stop with the hypocritical double standard shtick? You literally voted in a multimillionaire despite describing the rich as "the other side."
It’s concerning now because the CEO’s lives are in jeopardy yet. It wasn’t concerning when Americans were dying because they weren’t being covered.
I keep seeing the word
Civil War in the media!??
Well.... Its against our own Healthcare system!!!
😂😂😂
This
Don't get it twisted our brothers and sisters are still being denied....and they are dying.....this probably won't be the last time ....as a matter of opinion it may Starr happening regularly
You think a kid coming from a wealthy family was concerned about his coverage? NOT!
Nobodies are dying due to a lack of coverage.
Everyone loves to say "violence is never the answer" without reconciling the fact that a system that allows horrifically painful and preventable deaths to occur and dehabilitating life conditions to perpetuate for profit is inherently violent. We've just created so many degrees of separation between the victims and perpetrators that the recognition of violence is distorted.
bingo
Poetic.
Exactly!
Spot on. And for this reason I have decided Luigi acted purely in selfie defense and therefore should go free.
@@Ulysses.S.Grant.For.The.Union. "Selfie" defense? Is that what we call those horrible, self-centred photos everyone takes of themselves?
Not all murders are tragedies.
Except if it happens to a friend or relative of yours? Is it the standard you are going by?
@@carioca405 sorry but we do not have UHC CEO relatives. My relatives do not deny health care claims for profit
@@yuut01234 What if you had or would have in the future?
@@carioca405 nobody sane enough would deny claims for profits. idc if he's family
@@GigaTele So how do you know that all claims that were denied were for profits. Have you done an audit to quantify and qualify legitimate claims from illegitimate ones? I was myself a victim of medical malpractice exactly because the doctor lied to the insurance company about my condition so that they would approve surgery. In the process, they almost killed me in the OR. Things are not black and white as some people think. There are grey areas in this whole thing.
"Investigators are still working to identify a motive". Is it really that difficult for them?
They just don't wanna say what his reasoning is to keep from inspiring more vigalantes
It's not human intelligence
@alexgriffin6785 That makes sense.
Apparently….
Maybe they should ask one of us?
I worked as a contract worker for Blue Cross as a health claim representative for a good 2 years. They use AI software to help the company stay profitable. The AI software automatically denies patients who are deemed to be too expensive for the company to cover. Then an automatic rejection notice is printed, sent out to the recipient. I believe we denied about 21% of insurance claims. It has gotten so bad throughout the years.
They should be more honest and take the word Care out of Health Care. They should also remove the word Cross because they have nothing to do with Jesus Christ' unselfish sacrifice. Shooting a person in the back is not the answer this:
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. [Rom 12:19 KJV]
The righteous cry, and the LORD heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles. [Psalm 34:17 KJV]
Blue Cross doesn't use AI software
State Farm did that to me
No they undoubtedly deny more than that, I got charged over 3k for two hours in the emergency room for receiving an electrolyte IV from getting salmonella from chickfila in 2018, I couldn’t keep fluids in for 8 days, I was hallucinating and on death’s door. We had blue garbage plastic sheet shield, they denied our claim after paying $1800 a month for four years! Unbelievable criminality, maybe another Luigi should examine them too.
So it looks like AI is the problem
When a doctor request a treatment SHOULDN'T BE ANY DISCUSSION WITH A HEALTH INSURANCE. IF I PAY A HEALTH COVERAGE I SHOULD GET THE SERVICE.
Boom
You shouldn't pay at all. Health shouldn't be sellable
We should pay what we want since the Health Insurance covers what they want !🤔
You also can't just go around killing people either.
Unfortunately, it was because of your line of thinking that I became a victim of medical malpractice... the doctors implanted a pacemaker in me that I didn't need but scared everyone including the health insurance company I had at the time to believe that if I didn't have one that I could die....Four second opinions later, we found out I never needed that pacemaker...the doctor lied to the insurance company and made it sound like I needed an urgent surgery and to make matters worse they punctured my lungs in the process and I had a collapsed lung. So, remember, things are not that simple! There are unscrupulous doctors that in order to boost their profits they make false claims to the insurance company, it is called insurance fraud.
Corporate entities owning our Medical institutions, pharmacies, doctors and hospitals is an outrage
They also own our politicians, GOP and Democrats!
every level of govt is a corporation as well. inc feds, state, local. They all have a profit motive. and control motive. you can say every corporation is mismanaged, and greedy. and they are. try to audit any govt agency. see what you find.
Take a look at Memorial Hosp in Pawtucket RI. Destroyed by "Care New England."
The private sector will always provide better services at a cheaper cost. Regulatory is the FDA, a federal entity.
I’m a doctor who has dealt with UHC denying claims. Can’t condone murder, but I’m also not upset over what Mr. Mangione did 🤷♂️
it wasn't even him that did it. Not the same dude.
I was a mental health professional for almost 40 years and the healthcare system is what finally broke me! I loved my clients and listening to their stories and helping them find solutions was so rewarding.
But having my claims repeatedly denied and delayed finally made it impossible to do my job.
Please, post that comment on the website of your practice, if you have any backbone.
@@isaaczaiek487look alike....
You didn’t know him. What if he was your son? You might be upset even though he worked for UHC.
Its not about Luigi or the CEO. Its about the numbers. 64,000 fatalities. 34% denial rate. UHC made 20 Billion profit last year. When you go to the hospital its about the numbers $$$. American health outcomes rank last of the 10 high income countries. 1/2 of the American people living paycheck to paycheck. CEO's making MILLIONS $$$. 1% have more wealth than the bottom half. This issue wouldn't even be a issue if it were not for the "NUMBER OF PEOPLE" who are angry. Address the numbers, because in the end that is all that matters in this cold calculated country we live in. The Numbers are not political. The numbers do not lie. The numbers are not angry or happy. Look at the numbers and address them. "Its not personal, Sunny. Its business!"
💯
The needs to focus on THIS! His motive is clear . . . .
Except your numbers DO lie.
Wait… and then the companies are hacked and our information stolen… you can plant a seed on anyone, and may be he was not the shooter or anyone of us. Maybe there are a big one/one’s interested in Disap.. the ceo.
@teslajayde9641 really, how? let's see your numbers
Insurance is denying treatment for their customers. We pay them... how many Insurance policies do you actually have to pay for to benefit from the care. Insurance needs to be held accountable.
My insurance co. will not approve a medication that my daughter needs. We pay $943 monthly premium & her doctor wrote the script. What's wrong with this picture? Everything.
Do you really not understand why some claims are denied? Every healthcare system in the world has claim denials. If you pay high taxes to get socialized healthcare like the UK & Canada, they technically cover less than the US system. Do you think that socialized healthcare just covers every procedure for everyone in society? You think they approve endless rounds of chemo for 90 year olds? Of course not. The system can’t bankrupt itself for every person.
At some point, you’ve got to accept that the world doesn’t owe you anything. Save money to pay for your own medical care, buy private insurance, apply for disability if you qualify. Or apply for citizenship elsewhere
can't wrap my head around it, you go to the store you pay you get product, you get insurance, you pay you get denied. makes no sense whatsoever and the fact that this has been the norm and it's not illegal is weird.
@sammyr.1284 Excellent analogy
"inveatigators are still trying put together a motive" 😅🤣😂😆
When he straight up told them😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😢😅😅😅🎉❤❤❤❤
Gotta milk the overtime somehow
Trump won't change anything 😞
@@Pippie5555 He can’t. The health care industry is way bigger than him. Money will always be the main focus. Sadly.
“the health care system doesn’t work how it should” “our mission is to help make it better” coming from the company that profited the most in the industry, on top of having the highest denial rate. there are literal ongoing investigations into their 2023 earnings where they made a staggering $251 billion, yet there are claims that over 50 million of their clients have cases for premature deaths due to their unlawful denials. “our mission is to help make it better” no you’ve been trying to take advantage of it, and now you’re being called out. i just can’t believe the sheer audacity this guy has to say something like that.
they are just saying that to reduce the chances of more people getting killed, they don't actually care.
It was about to be “ better for UHC”- Trump nominated a UHC half million $ share holder of UHC- Dr. Oz, the unqualified quack who promised to privatize Medicare and Medicaid! Pay attention to the most recent harbingers of doom for the 99%.
What we’ve learned is that there is absolutely no need for private health insurance. We need single payer universal healthcare coverage. Doctors should be the ones deciding what treatment we receive not insurance executives.
Absolutely!
But do NOT fall for Oz's desire to have Medicare Advantage for all - That would be a disaster aimed only enriching the medical industry!
1000000%
It was AI. They use AI.
@Sharon-ol1um It's laughable that you believe insurance executives are the ones looking at the files & making treatment decisions. 🙄
Isn’t it crazy we know more about this guys life biography then we do about the Trump shooter. Weird
Exactly what I've been thinking.
That's propaganda by Trump to get vote lol@@aaronperrotta7055
Ya know… I’m not a Trump supporter, but that’s a good point.
Hm...
They know everything about everyone, there are no secrets
Elizabeth Warren was putting UHC on the griddle last year and they IGNORED her.
Warren stated that violence is never the answer, if that was the case we would all be speaking german
@@rodvan-zeller6360you should be on a watch list
@@rodvan-zeller6360 Well if you take that 100% literally AND ignore context....
Liz is there pockets thanks to Obamacare..Show me a rich politician and I’ll show you a crook she’s my representative of my commonwealth and she’s awful
she has made tens of millions off them
Lol. They’re calling to improve it to “honor” the legacy of a CEO whose job it was to maintain the disgraceful status quo…. Hmmm OK !👌🏼
Well said
@RachelAmmons - They want to be very careful to NOT inspire any copycats.
That was complete BS. They want to continue to line their pockets but not be held accountable. UHC just moved another crook into Thompson’s position. The only change is that they will have protection and hide their faces as best they can.
They'll improve it for now, but they'll change it back a couple months after when people forget.
I did a split take and laughed out loud when they said this. I couldn't believe the audacity of honoring the CEO that way.
They stopped putting a timer on anesthesia after his his death.
They know what they’re doing is wrong or else they wouldn’t be so reactive towards a “crazed”shooter.
The only thing theyre honoring about the dead CEO, is the money they can now split amongst themselves while theyre still on this mortal earth. Lets be real here, none of these people in this business care about a single life other than theirs and their own families.
So true!
How many people have been denied, and how many has died. Where can we start looking at the facts.
In English, questions end with question marks, not periods.
@@YaoEspiritoYou're in a youtube comment section. People aren't writing dissertations with perfect punctuation. Time and place.
We are not all English 🙄@@YaoEspiritocomprendes?
Majority are posting from some bot farm In Bangladesh.
@@YaoEspirito but intelligent minds still understand the message only the smalls ones get confused.
Michael Moore just uploaded Sicko, his documentary about the insurance industry. No commercials, just the doc. VERY eye-opening!
Is that the one where he pretends that Cubans have access to better healthcare than Americans do
@@TheWorldisRaw They do, in every possible way. They have a lung cancer vaccine, and we don't. They graduate more doctors than most other nations in the world. Cuba does most things better than we do, and certainly value the lives of their citizens more than the U.S. could ever dream of.
@ you should see what Cuba is really like. They have restaurants that can barely put out spaghetti due to power outages.
Stores have nothing in them.
In the Michael Moore documentary he goes into a pharmacy that is totally bare and the camera cuts and the lady turns around and pulls some medicine out of a drawer even though they don’t even have any lights in the building.
When a store gets a shipment of jeans they get mobbed because it’s so rare to have any goods.
It’s not good at all. It’s a nightmare.
@@TheWorldisRaw
Cuba has some of the best doctors outside the US. That’s been the case for years
@@helloitsmehb There's no health infrastructure in Cuba. They lack basic things like medical gloves. Many hospitals re-use gloves.
Stop speculating. Luigi is innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.
NO EVIDENCE THAT HE WAS THE SHOOTER
😂 he confessed in a journal they found on him, his fingerprints are on the weapon, & he had the silencer used in the crime. Also facial recognition confirmed his identity
It's been guilty until proven innocent for decades. What country do you live in lol
There’s actually a ton of evidence including ballistics matching those at the crime scene to the gun Luigi had, a writing manifesto he wrote, dna from a water bottle at the scene, and fingerprints all match Luigi. This is called “physical evidence.”
Chronic pain can cause mental deterioration. I believe Luigi didn’t have adequate pain control.
Ok smart guy
Or, maybe he sought help with pain control from those in the MK-Ultra wheelhouse...maybe they saw an opportunity to create a patsy through medication...
Yes!
Pain manage to us not aviable to most chronic pain patients!
Probably lost his healthcare when he lost his job, then turned 26.
1000000000% agree!!
That's right folks. If your child goes missing, it can take years or just dumb luck to find them, but if someone kills a CEO for being a murderer for hire, it just takes one a reward and a snitch to find him.
Honor his legacy? Really?
what is the legacy of a spoiled rich kid who travels the world on his dads $
@@B86432 How do you know he lives on his father's money?
@@B86432 - As I understand it, Luigi’s father and mother are divorced. And Luigi and his mother don’t have access to any “family money”. That was just what I heard.
@@B86432dude was a CEO I doubt he cared about his dad's cash
@@B86432doesn’t matter what his economic back ground is he still risked his entire future to attempt to make change and speak for the poor citizens of America that have had their lives ruined by these predatory health care companies. Sure he was born wealthy, but he still made more of an effort to make change for American citizens than you have 🤷♂️
It took something like this to even consider changing the broken system?
Shocking isn't it!
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No, not considering. They're just biding their time and giving lip service, hoping it'll pass until they can sweep this all under the rug and continue on like nothing ever happened.
They aren't considering it yet, they are scared that they can't get control of the narrative, because they like the status quo. Too bad that they haven't realized the status quo has changed. They need to change it before someone they cannot catch comes along. I hope that they do.
I've been happy with my Healthcare insurance
@@glrinc7756 You actually think that this murder is going to change ANYTHING other than protecting their CEOS with higher security?! 🤣
Be careful of what you say to your therapist these days, everyone. They’re required to report you to the police if you make a threat, even if it’s just venting. And they don’t have to tell you they made the report.
Therapy is a scam
how 'bout stop going to "therapist" at all. do you really need another human being to tell you how to think, behave, and live? save your money, follow your inner voice of what is right and wrong, its not too difficult, i promise.
Don't trust head shrinkers
@@knickd1979 Look where it this guy.
Agree. Exercise, have a pet, make sure you have a regular income, travel if you can at least in the state line and have friends to have fun, use chatgpt, write daily. Problem solved.
Health is not an industry, health is LIFE!
NYC is mad because Luigi allegedly killed an elite in an area under their supposed watch. The shooter embarrassed them and they want to punish him to the max.
Pain breaks good people. We aren't respecting our health at the national level and it will catch up and get us like Luigi got the boss of United Health.
Not appropriate
I just saw a TH-cam video, showing the photos of the suspect with a mask over his nose and his hood up. That was the initial first photos, compared to the mug shot of this Luigi Mangione. The TH-cam video points out that the eyebrows are different, and so are the eyelashes. The suspect had a wider gap between his eyebrows than Luigi Mangione has… How do you explain that away?
Yes, the photos of the first man are a different man than the one arrested
It’s not my job to solve this crime. Let the professionals do their jobs.
Exactly.
Exactly. No more comparisons being made. Decision has been made.
@Jodyrides I’d like to see the video, too. Can you share the link, please?
Did the family recognize him? All interviewees on media dodged that question.
I know, in the initial police briefing they said that his name was not known to them. I find that hard to believe given this report.
Maybe because it's obvious. You may have not noticed all the pics of him at his graduation. They're a match.
Family has made statements and so have other ppl that know him. the one pic of him shirtless in Hawaii or somewhere is almost from the same angle as the security cameras and shows how they are the same exact face.
his mom said she couldnt be sure
This would come as a shock to a parent whose kid was an engineer and a valedictorian. Like there would be so much disbelief because it was out of character.
As the CEO of a biotech company involved in many different committees and groups working towards fixing the healthcare system i can tell you exactly what's going to happen .... Nothing
first stop using the word system
creepy. Ive heard biotech companies are big behind organ trafficking
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His legacy? Increasing shareholders profits by denying necessary healthcare to patients
Alvin Bragg is a joke and should resign.
No. He goes after bad guys. Trump being numero uno.
Alvin Bragg is evil. He charges people when he KNOWS there is no crime- just because the person disagrees with his politics.
As someone with debilitating pain from several back injuries and 6 autoimmune diseases, the problem isn’t with my insurance…it’s my state’s ridiculous policies on prescribing pain meds. They are the strictest in the nation and I no longer have a life. I’m not able to get any pain meds prescribed so for all intents and purposes, I am bedridden. I don’t see my grandchildren anymore because I developed severe nerve damage in my legs and feet. I am no longer able to drive. Unless a person with severe pain does their due diligence and research who really is at fault, they’ll assume it’s their specialist or insurance when in fact it’s the DEA.
@sandyaw3057 - I am in the exact same situation as you, except I am not bedridden. At least you can know that you are not alone. I don’t know if that helps.
It was trump, during his first term, that made the states tighten up giving out pain meds.
Yes🙏
I went to the doc recently for some back pain and they gave me anti inflammatory pills and muscle relaxers … I don’t take the relaxers any more
Often true, sadly. I'm in the same boat. Worse yet, I'm fatally allergic to opiates.
@ I’ve been to a chiropractor as well and they told me that I am diagnosed with something called military neck
Jury nullification, people. Learn and use it-don’t try to get out of jury duty for any case. We can turn the “justice system” on its head.
So when do we build a statue of this guy?
Actions speak louder than words. Luigi is the voice of the American people!!!!
Insurance, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing.
Many people have benefited by insurance on their homes, cars, and even health. So no, not absolutely nothing. 😅
Yes. The ultra wealthy elite class can afford to invest in insurance policies but not regular working class. It’s completely unaffordable even for the average nurse or plumber’s family.
@ Sorry. Anyone who owns a car has to have insurance. Plus, I don’t know where you live but nurses and plumbers make a lot of money.
Private health insurance* what is it good for? Absolutely nothing
Mario, where are you? We need you to rescue your brother
He's innocent until proven guilty. Yes, every and kinds of evidence CAN be forged. And don't get me started on planting evidence now.
Nope. Guilty until proven innocent. Welcome to Amerikkka.
It took the mother 4 months to report him missing? If I were a parent, I would've been quite concerned after two weeks.
Jury nullification is what terrifies billionaires. It only takes one juror who believes he was justified and refuses to convict and he goes free.
to honor Thomson's legacy?
yeah, right? that's rich, "honor" his legacy--of killing people through denying them health coverage? they are telling us exactly that they'll do nothing to fix this--too greedy.
The person flashing a smile looks nothing like Luigi.
Agree. The guy with the smile looks like a heart-breaker. Did Luigi even have a girlfriend?
@@arnaryll9630um yes it’s the same guy
@@LaurenAtTenn How do you know? (Remember Rashoman)
The MOTHER of 3 made NO actionable threats!!!
@@sheasavvy8155 Nope! This has been case law for decades. Direct, provable threats of violence are illegal; not random venting.
@@sheasavvy8155Not a threat good lawyer can argue that in court. They would have to unequivocally prove she is a threat. The charges will most likely be dropped. Tactics to scare people into being quiet.
Showing the image of a random Not Guilty Mother in this context should be criminal.
They want to make an example of her. Then they will go after others. They hate us.
Personally, I couldn't care less about some way overpaid CEO who profits from other peoples misfortune.
They really think we’re stupid.
They should've contacted his brother, Mario. They are usually together either on an adventure or Go Cart Racing.
Brian Thompson was under-investigated by the DOJ for inside trading 2 weeks before he was murdered. Luigi Mangione disappeared from San Francisco police radar 1 week before he surfaced again in NYC. Who is the big name in San Franciso, and whose husband was investigated for inside trading? Karma is taking a toll on that person.
Pelosi for 500 , Alex...
Nancy happens to have family mob ties. This guy is obviously Italian and conveniently removed the guy about to sink her with testimony, now she's mysteriously abroad for no good reason and falls for a little sympathy,? 🤔
This guy looks nothing like the original guy in first released video of shooting and pictures of suspect in green hooded jacket
Stop. It’s the exactly the same person. Trying to make a theory out of nothing.
The ONLY bag he was seen carrying [that had Everything] was his backpack and He discarded it in Central Park, then they caught him at McDonald's in PA with everything ? makes Sense?
Backpack straps were two different colors. One was grey straps, and the other one was black straps.
You are correct. This guy they caught, practically has a unibrow and the nose is also different. Study the pics side by side.
@ same person. He wanted to get caught, he also wanted to get caught. You not getting away with that.
The hospitals, doctors and other healthcare workers are just as responsible as the insurance companies in our system.
So his mother waited 5 months to report him as missing? 🙄🙄
The real question Is why do they deny claims but take medicaide out of every 1s paycheck??? . Where does the money go???
Insurance companies are thiefs with license and a tie in their neck to look professionals. Insurance companies is a mono-pole that take your money but dont pay when they are suppose to. and I am talking about ALL types of insurance, medical and motor. Extremely expensive.
Literally, NO ONE CARES!! Leave him & his family alone
"Violence is never the answer!" Yet the violence seems to be the only thing that has spurred them to move or comment in years.
I have known at least 3 people who have had back surgeries making their back issues worse. It’s like these poor patients are treated like Guinea pigs!!
They look like different people.
He's not the shooter.
Not worried about why. I am worried about how. How did he know where Brian Thompson schedule and where he would be. That is more concerning.
It was the shareholder’s annual meeting
Not a bit concerning
😂 it's not hard to find someone's daily schedule, personal information or location. You don't even have to put in that much effort once you got their workplace details and dude was a CEO so dozens of people a day would not only have access to his whereabouts and personal information but would be coordinating every little detail of his day.
They need to leave his parents alone. He acted ALONE. The CEOs and billionaires don’t care when people are getting no coverage! I don’t see police hunting down murderers like this in other cases! CEOs lives aren’t worth more than the lives of other Americans!
I keep thinking about Luigi’s mom, please pray for her, too . As a mom of 24 years old data scientist, I can feel how she is going through .
I pray for Luigi who would get minimum fine. Give him a chance to be a useful talented engineer for US. I know it is crazy to forgive a murder, but we understood why it happened
Incredible how everyone incl journalists have missed luigianis last words etc about his mum's neuropathic pain, delays etc by united healthcare
What Legacy!? 😤🤬
The legacy of making the bigshots around the company and the board of directors a ton of money from letting people die or go bankrupt. Dying for greed, so the bigshots around him could live a life of absolute luxury off that same greed without anybody knowing their name.
Mangioni is innocent of all crimes and has done nothing
This should not be a legacy for Thomson this should be a legacy of the patients who got denied by United Health.
Elizabeth Has pushed people even further! Can’t believe she said that!
What Italian mother doesn’t speak to her son for 5 months before reporting him missing?
As an Italian mother or any other mother, that is very odd.
the record profits, earnings by the executives and the relationship with DC is only going to increase these strikes
hilarious how they're making this murderer out to be a victim. dude was literally in the 1 percent.
I agree. Dude had it coming. The Stars aligned for him. God works in mysterious ways
Let’s honor his life and legacy? Yeah let’s not do that!
Such a terrible situation. I can’t help but feel compassion for both families.
🚨🚨🚨 THE COPS SET HIM UP ‼️‼️‼️‼️ FREE LUIGI‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
I can’t imagine how the mom’s heart sank when police contacted her before they captured him!
I know. 😢
That explains why they don’t want to pay the McDonald’s employee
A large number of people died, because they were denied the much needed treatments. Not to mention the fact that corporate greed destroyed entire families, because they couldn't pay these insane health care bills and went bankrupt.
'The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.' ~ George Orwell
The motive is clear.
Crystal clear
rich kid who doesnt need insurance?
Why should we owner the life of anyone who puts profits above service and people.
i KNOW eric adams is happy this case happened: it shifts all the focus away from how corrupt he is
This is disgusting that he was found so easily, hopefully others take him as inspiration, he’s a true American hero!
You're kidding right?
He needs to be charged with first degree murder.
Why do I know everything about Luigi and not a single thing about thomas crooks?
Except that he and the other attempted shooter were both in blackrock commercials
"Investigators are still trying put together a motive." The man was found with the clearest, most concise manifesto of all manifestos to have ever manifestoed.
Why did she wait from July to November to report him missing ? Odd !!!
Exactly…and she didn’t recognize him in the photos from the media?..
A family member of mine has been missing for three years and the police could care less. They hardly even looked and gave up almost instantly. It's funny how rich and powerful people get totally different treatment. All they do is use us for profit. Our lives mean nothing to corporatists. What an evil country America has become..
“Copycat violence” when Briana Boston was arrested for practicing free speech. She was venting and making a statement, not a threat.
Why his mother waited 4 month to report police??what make her make her quite this few month??
??????
Spellcheck!
You are speaking with marbles in your mouth.
Translate to proper English...
Thanks.
Maybe she hates the police?
@KimSmith-b9v oy
Hairclub for Men contacted Luigi... he went from cab photo with a gap to a unibrow in 7 days. He's the new spokesperson for the company
If you knew any Italian or Greek men, you would realize how POSSIBLE this is...we had a friend who COULD have shaved 3 x/day. He DID shave 2x/day and always seemed to have a "shadow"...each time I see this comment, I scratch my head. I could be wrong, but think this is possible.
Good or bad one thing for sure ----- it opened the healthcare conversation---
It want change, it's just smoke screens.
And nothing will change
Thanks for the update.
Did he stop talking to his family because they’re complicit in health care and patient abuse via their poorly rated nursing care facilities? I mean, I would, too.
It’s personal for every single one of us regardless if that’s our insurance provider or not.
They need to release his manifesto
They have.
There are no winners in this situation. It’s very sad.
Luigi, the hero of our time
Get the government out of the way and let insurance companies compete again. Provide the best service at the best price or lose customers to a company who does.