Was BIG SEAN Left Behind His Peers? Stunted Growth Music
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Today’s feature is an artist I truly have enjoyed in the past and I would be remiss not to mention that. When the idea of doing a video about Big Sean came up, I thought long about what that would sound like, as part of me feels Sean had a very successful career considering you know how he got started in one of the most pure hip hop ways, rapping on the spot for a well known artist so well that he invites you to the studio and offers to sign you on the spot. That itself never happens anymore in the new social landscape, and he’s managed to have a pretty successful career thereafter. He’s put out 5 albums in the 2010s and they’ve all done well. 3 platinum and 2 going gold. For his rap class, the beginning of the 2010s, he was one of its leaders at some point and I remember he, Drake, Kendrick and J Cole all supposedly being the future of and rap as we once knew it, always compared to one another and often pressured to battle one another for the throne. Throughout the decade Drake and Kendrick have seemed to separate themselves, along with J Cole who isn’t that far behind as the cream of the crop from that era, and Big Sean just kinda seemed to have left the race. Was BIG SEAN Left Behind His Peers? Stunted Growth Music
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I see Big Sean as the 2010's version of Fabolous. They blended in more than they stood out and their music was par for the course. And another thing: I can't recall seeing another rapper get outshined on his own track as routinely as Big Sean.
Perfect comparison
Both got the monotone voice with the only difference is Fab's being a bit more mature
Lol I love how since control dropped y’all still wanna say he always got outshined this the same big Sean who some people say had the best verse on Detroit vs Everybody, he stole the show on meek mills b boy and I think he had the best verse on the Good Friday track “Don’t Look Down” Sean had his misses but his style def was his own imo
Spot on. That's the perfect comparison. Mr. Cool, with the laid back voice. Except Sean had more hits, where as Fab did all the street music in mixtapes.
Yo this is a very great comparison.
Sean is nice but he lacked the forward progression and direction of his peers. His Drink Champs pretty much proved that was due to Kanye using him for his own agenda and keeping him stuck under him. Wayne let Drake surpass him because he had nothing to prove anymore while Ye can’t let go of that top spot
Lil wayne is better than Drake tho drake is just more popular and Big Sean will never be able to surpass kanye not in rapping or in popularity. The truth is big sean just wasnt that good from the jump
Well said homie and I think ur most definitely correct, even tho I was really never a fan of his!! I still dug his flow tho
@@kobemeriez7860 Yeeeep!!
Well said
I get what you mean by Drake "surpassing" Wayne. But because Wayne put him on and still under his umbrella (so to speak) Wayne will be ...above him..
Do Wale next. Just like Big Sean, Wale still had a successful career just didn't mount up to his full potential like everyone expected him to be.
I was JUST about to mention Wale too, it’s been long overdue.
I agree with this.
Cap, wale has singles that went craZy
@@chrisfenner2501 like I said he had success but didn't reached his full potential. She should be on Drake, Cole & Kendrick level rn.
Same thing with Wale, I've never had the urge to listen to a big Sean album.
Big Sean matured over the years when he first came out I wasn’t the biggest fan. But he’s definitely a talented rapper.
No question
His last album sold 100+k first week I don’t think that’s left behind lol. He’s been around since 2007/08 that’s a successful Rap career. That’s almost a 20 year run. To add on, rappers today last a lot longer than rappers back in the day due to social media, it gives rappers a chance to revive their careers whether it’s musically or some other form of show biz.
2007 was 5 years ago. ok, OKAY!!
Definitely had a successful career but in terms of the hype and where he was considered among his peers when he first came out he didn’t live up to it.
@@tybooskie Lmao your ass is old af....
I'm fuckin 29, it hurts nigga
When people say he's left behind they typically mean in impact on the game, relevancy, and or ability, in relation to his peers.
Its solely just sales.
Like people listen to big sean but you're not gonna have alot of people you can just ask about sean and get positive feedback from or who will actively praise and defend him.
@@tybooskie ??
I remember back in 2012 he was on the pace to past Drake with that Detroit mixtape…he was on fire but idk what happened
Sean fell into that "Ludacris" level of stardom, imo. Ppl always recognized he was nice, but never took him serious enough for him to be mentioned with Drake, Cole, Kendrick, etc. Same thing happened with Ludacris.
Best comparison. Fan of both
Hear me out, he's the rap version of Paul Pierce in that he's great and his fans love him but over shadowed by his contemporaries.
100%
Facts 💯
Makes sense
As a Huge Big Sean supporter, I must agree
I ALWAYS FELT THAT SEAN N MEEK WAS THE 2 GUYS BATTLING FOR 4TH PLACE BEHIND THE BIG 3
Meek won the 4th I’d say but Sean just should’ve kept going harder he stopped snapping
He’s the 2010 fabulous!!!
From the 2010s I had him...
1). Drake.
2). Kendrick.
3). Cole.
4). BIG Sean
5). Meek.
Future and Young Thug and Travis Scott> Big Sean.
They all have more influence and they all have better music
@@derrickblack3929 mans said future and young thug 💀
@@asupanova6756 numbers and influence don't lie. Future and Thug > Sean😂
@@derrickblack3929 and ability doesn't lie. Sean can rap while the other 2 can't
@@asupanova6756 Sean is just a mix of Eminem and Nas lmao. Future and Young Thug are original and almost every new rapper have said they are influenced by Future and Thugger lmao. No has ever said " I was influenced by Big Sean". And Sean fell off while Future is at the top of his game while Thug before being locked up was at the top of his game too
Big Sean will be remember as a legend. He was Ye best artist. I feel he did most he could given the transition of eras
Cam’ron Started The Super Duper Flow
Kendrick Kamar JCole Drake Big Sean are all The Mount Rushmore Of The 2010s hiphop in that order
Nah to me based on the music it’s Drake-A$AP Rocky-Kendrick (overrated)-J cole
You have to do MC Ren or the group Capone & Noriega. Nore has done so much but the potential for the group was definitely missed.
One or two of the biggest stunts with them is Capone not being known of having a career like NORE, and NORE’s lyrics not the same during and after the Melvin Flynn album.
@@lincolnhamilton7043 I think it’s because Capone went to jail even before war report was released
Big Sean wanted more things than music and had depression in his career which also played a factor. He also has a public relationship and he now is taking time to start a family and focus on that. He also did do some acting on a B.E.T. show and now liking into branching out into more stuff. He a legend for Detroit outside of Eminem he is arguably number 2 of his city.
Big Sean is and still is dope! Wish this brotha the best. I would also add Jhene Aiko part of his stunted growth! She took a toll on him. His career started to falter from putting music out consistently and was caught up in a weird love triangle with her for years smh.
I agree now she pregnant 🤦🏾♀️
Lol what love triangle please? This man's been dropping projects even since they've been together. Y'all ain't just copping the new music. That's it. Don't blame her for it.
@@charlie6909 And his albums are flopping so what's your point 🤔?
@@oogabooga1023 like I said. Y'all ain't listening like that. We all ain't listening like that. I bet you his die hard fans are, once in a short while I'll bump Big Sean definitely. And he's just releasing music, definitely obviously focused on other also important aspects of his life. So don't blame his partner for it.
@@charlie6909 I feel you! I support him and he's really talented but music today has moved on from Big Sean. Which is sad, because lyrically not too many artist today can keep up with him. But at end of the day, he seems happy and that makes me happy for him👍.
He definitely was in a league of his own
"Im so fuckin first class i can spit up on every pilot/the city my metropolis feel it it's metabolic"🔥
I believe the real issue is that Big Sean is someone that is humble and avoids conflict. People are more "attracted" to controversy and if you notice the main artists: Drake, Cole and especially Kendrick they have done or said controversial stuff that have kept them in people's mouths
I know that I didn’t accept Big Sean at first because of the beginning of his career. But I like the music that he released later in his career
Legend Big Sean 💯 had his own wave n still has a cult fan base
Big Sean dope af!
Big Sean is a beast. Always has been, but I think his personal life has interfered in the advancement of his career.
Well the 3 minute intro says enuff.
Salute B. Sean
Sean in all honesty has won he seems to have peace of mind and it doesn’t get any more successful than that ⭕️
The cole jumpshot hightlight 👏🏽👏🏽
If drake and big sean dropped on the same day. I'm listening to Big Sean!!!
Really bro? He had/has a good run...nothin stunted
His last two projects were good to me
Enjoyed all his projects. Sean like Wale. I never understood the hate
Stunned growth Vybz kartel
Big Sean is dope! He has trendsetting flows and was part of a game changing wave of rappers in hip hop. however he never had a stand out personality. What do u stand for outside of women and money. That creates longevity. Low key I think he should have went with a more flamboyant name than big Sean to stand out from all the bigs and Lil's.i don't think it's over though. Homie got skills
That detroit mixtape was tough should've been an album
Please do Black Rob.
Reminds me of MJ drafting Kemba
JEWELZ SANTANA INVENTED THAT FLOW LOOK IT UP .
Don't really know anything about this guy's music, but he is from my city, Detroit.
Big Sean always been like a Mase baby in my opinion
This make it feel like Big Sean ain’t do shit whole time he was out. Damn
I was just talking about him yesterday why he wasn't on the level of kendrick drake cole
He had too many club, pop and dirty rap records.
Or even Wiz Khalifa
Me and Sean fitna form a rap group called da Military bih. 😆
Rappers usually know nothing about music. They just rap. Of course they don’t progress. They are not music artists.
🤷🏿♂️
Those kind of rappers are meant for cyphers, guest spots and on-radio/mixtape freestyle sessions.
Ngl never looked at Sean as a top artist like Cole drake or kendrick never was interested past like a few songs like blessed and control and we know how that went
Wale next
What stunted Yung M.A growth?
Young MA isn’t stunted. She’s mostly just underground. She’s just one of the homies. I think she’s a hard one to market successfully. Her sexual preference and the fact that she could outflow some men, while also looking more like a man than woman. Hip hop/rap can’t or won’t move her mainstream.
She can spit some very chill bars!
She took too long to drop her album. She let her momentum die down
The title needs fixing my guy
Can you please do Vic Mensa, Amy Winehouse and Xxxtentacion
Sean Don the Isaiah Thomas of this Rap Shit!!! Quit Playin!!!! #zeek
I like that comparison
"Super dooper" flow was NOT invented by sean!!!!!
You're right he was straight, straight generic. If there were no high school students when he dropped we wouldn't even be talking about him.
Honestly I feel like Big Sean isn't really that great of a rapper. He just knows how to really articulate himself in a period that still can't articulate themself too well in hip hop. What he says and a lot of what he stands for has no cadence, like you can't really pinpoint out what this dude hardly stands for on some I will die for this type s*** LOL you can do that with everybody else hell you can even do that with somebody as not as a good rapper as G-Eazy, I can still pinpoint out what G-Eazy stands for and is about.
Also, can you please do Lil Kim
When I was saying Sean was trash.. he kept goin up .. when he won me over , he fell from grace and good music fell out 😂
First time that ever happened to me
It kinda makes me sad because I think that Sean’s career was one of the best of the 10s decade. Plus DARKSKYPARADISE is such a good album
Dark Sky Paradise and Detroit was his BEST work
He’d be back on top if he drops a TWENTY88 album again though
His voice was the problem for me couldn't take him serious
Definitely over shadowed I'll give him that
Big Sean is in the same category as Fabolous.. Mixtapes 🔥🔥, albums real mid.
Big Sean was never good to me lol laziest sounding voice, zero personality, and always had gimmicky punchlines
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Hey man, at least his braids are real. Their not fake like Drake’s 😂😂😂
Sean music just never really had much depth to it. Similar to Da Baby & Ludacris. & I'm a fan of Luda. Sean can Rap & has bars but DMX & 2Pac taught us that it's not always about having the dopest punchlines & metaphors. Give me some substance that will teach me something either about you or myself & show me some emotion & vulnerability as an artist. At least sometimes
💯 Sean’s delivery wasn’t the best to me and he has a lot of corny lines but a lot of great ones but the people that call big Sean trash always brings up his corny punchlines
@@tbj4855 yep. Exactly
Wale do a wale...
way too slept on it hurts
How has Big Sean been left behind?! My favorite rapper is J Cole, Sean has more number ones than him. Why does this narrative follow Big Sean?
Big Sean was always a Fabulous but alittle dry with the flow but maybe? better with the lyrics??..sometimes ..🤷🏿
Top rappers that was supposed to pop was drake....j cole.....kendrick....big sean....wale
Pusha T ?!
Big Sean is the Chris Paul of hip hop. Got the fundamentals down, one of the best in his sport but just can’t win when it counts.
This the one bro!
ya think sean got behind....shidddddd wat about ASAP rocky? lmfao sean has a great career considering wat era he came up under in
The brother was successful. This seems like a filler episode. You even said yourself his career wasn’t stunted.
Big Sean is Big Mid
Only in rap music a guy can just call few artiste names n say am tryna merk u ninjas n dat was d most impressive diss of d last decade lol non sense and Big Sean is better than Kendrick way more talented but it's all rap politics
Left behind??? He was the weakest in his class and lasted longer than most than most thought he would.
He's pretty good to me but not great
I’ll take pretty good, not great any day of the week. His longevity and talent is about what I was expecting. I came on to Big Sean when he put out Marvin Gay and Chardonnay. I was all about partying then. I don’t listen to that song anymore, as I’ve grown as a person. Detroit 2 and the album he did with Metro Boomin are good albums.
Sean has a huge following and alot of hits hisblast project was well regarded yaw gotta stop the bs
Drake
Kendrick
Sean
Cole
Wale
In that order
It’s really close for first with Drake and Kendrick but you can’t deny the impact drake has had. Since 2010 you haven’t turned on the radio and not heard a Drake Verse. Kendrick gets second for his consistency with his body of work and lyricism. Every album Kendrick has put out is very well put together & meant to be listened to from start to finish. He is the story teller of our generation. Sean gets third for his rapping ability and ability to entertain us and hold our attention when he drops. Cole is fourth because he’s boring. And wale is 5th because he just hasn’t stayed in the race like the other 4. This is just my opinion as someone who has listened to all of these artist and consider them the greats of my generation. They all make fire music and I’m glad they all came out when they did. We definitely needed something fresh in that time. The trap rap was so played!
Ultimately I think Sean is underrated. More and more they make him out to be a bad rapper, but he was straight. Clever lyricist.
I agree. Detroit kats are cut different
I think he suffers from the same thing Fabulous did. What separates you from everybody else and also when you come up with the Drake's J. Cole and Kendrick Lamar's thats going to be a steep hill to climb.
@@JayDaReactor Pretty much.
Sean has a lot of club, dirty rap Singles… not full albums outside his first two . This is a fair judgement. Detroit,Dark Sky Paradise and I Decided were good albums with balanced B-Sides singles. He gets an unfair rap at times like the video says.
Yeeeeaah but he wasn't that clever enough of an EMCEE 2 lyrically flourish like "K-DÒT" did!! K-DOT is the real template 4 lyrically inclination, straight up!!
I liked big Sean growing up in elementary through high school he always came with the hits I loved like My Last, Beware and Moves. At times I did think his flow and delivery came off as corny but overall he’s still a clever and underrated rapper who always comes with those ongoing bars with some nice wordplay💯
Maybe another thing that stunted his growth was that he wasn’t too influential. Of course he’s the biggest rapper to come outta Detroit since Eminem and he reps the D and the D reps him but he doesn’t exactly represent the sound of Detroit if that makes sense
Even Danny brown dissed him and say he’s not from Detroit
He’s the 4th guy to me , after Kendrick Cole and Drake , I mean his longevity alone has proven that , he’s also got some good lyrics
Nah sean cool but he like in the 10-15th range
@@since956rian he's definitely above average but keep that corny hate train going if you like
I agree. His bars have substance 🤷🏾♂️
@@asupanova6756 10-15??? U tripping lol
@@michaelsledge3904 yea 10-15 bro there's alot of peers in his gen that are more gifted MCs and have less hiccups in their catalog. 10-15th my be a bit generous if I'm being honest
He's always been a step behind Cole, Drake, Kendrick & Wiz Khalifa but Big Sean & Wale some how got left behind
Wiz khalifa???
Facts. Him Wale Wiz Ace Hood logic & Cudi got left behind .
@@younggod3906 wiz took it easy after his biggest hit he doesn’t have to rap ever again
@@TheIshShow1 Wiz lost the hunger to rap lmao. He had a better career and more hits than Sean.
@@derrickblack3929 if you believe that cool, but to put Wiz in the same sentence as Cole, Drake and Kendrick is absolutely insane
If Meek Mill and Big Sean had Stunted Growth, then you DEFINITELY gotta have Wale next. Also, Jay Rock and Wiz Khalifa.
Wiz should be left out as he had his run plus after his big hit see you again he never has to rap again
@@dwaynejpeterkin after that, that was it. How many years ago was that tho? At least Meek and Big Sean still putting out music and relevant
@@lincolnhamilton7043 some artists don’t want to keep making music for their whole lives he decided to do something else which is making him more money he does music for fun now
@@dwaynejpeterkin and unlike Big Sean, Wiz knows his niche audience
I don't think Big Sean was left I just don't think he cares about being in the spotlight. I mean Cole & Kendrick are like that too they release their projects then they fade from their spotlight and live their lives until they release again.
Big Sean’s problem was he was a bling era rapper stuck in the 2010’s. Big Sean’s best asset as an artist was that he was a radio hit artist. However when the mid 2010’s rolled around Trap started becoming the new radio rap this was bad for Sean as he wasn’t trapping. Pop Rap stopped becoming about “look at all these things I have” but instead “look at the illegal things I did to get these things I have” So a rap radio artist who doesn’t trap, can’t get introspective like Kendrick, can’t sing like Drake and isn’t as creative a Kanye what do you have left?
Very interesting observation.Bling era talk is now perceived as corny by new gen.Ultimately,Sean failed to carve his niche and didn’t show as much of an artistic evolution like Cole or Drake.
I agree with the path of Big Sean career....non music news involved him in who he was romantically involved with at the time. He was a play boy rapper then turned to motivational rapper but nothing crazy to report if it wasn't music related. Detroit was his best mixtape/album to me but I will never not listen to a new Big Sean song because he has always made solid music and can legitimately rap well.
Yeah f the scandals and gossip. It's about the music for me, and in that department he consistently delivers.
big Sean is one of the best lyricist since 2010. he had big hits over the last decade. but he could've done more with better support.
Great Vid!... I feel like Sean is the most overly achieved Stunted Growth vid you done.
3 Platinums, 2 golds .... Had some of the best freestyles and dated Arianna Grande..
He did his thing in one of the most competitive eras of Rap alongside Drake, J. Cole, Kendrick. He wasnt really anticipated on being one of the greatest.
He relied on true rap lyrical abilities and shined in a hip hop era that relied on Gimmicks.
True shout out to my fav and a legend in the game.
DMX is the most overly achieved stunted growth he's done.
Please do Naughty By Nature. They were big in the hip hop community in 90s. Treach was greatly underrated. #NewJerseyRepresent
After the 90s, they never were able to take it to the next level. Overall, they had a great run.
I disagree he was left behind. He was never big like a Drake etc. he did good and made a ton of money as a hip hop artist. He was not a flop
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Young Money did that in the late 2000's early 2010's. Namely Lil Wayne, Drake and Nicki Minaj.
For the next Stunted Growth episode, I'd like to see:
80's:
The DOC
Big Daddy Kane
Roxanne Shante
90's:
Mystikal
C-Murder
Ras Kass
Kris Kross
Das EFX
MC Hammer
2000's:
Webbie
Slim Thug
Eve
Lil Jon
Lil Scrappy
Boyz N Da Hood
Young Jeezy
2010's:
Wale
Kevin Gates
Travis Scott
Chief Keef
R&B:
Kelis
Keri Hilson
Damm you bouta cash app my guy ? You asking him to record like 33 vids
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He doesn't have to make a video for all of them. It's just that some of the names I listed are due for one.
Jeezy is not a stunted growth.
@@shauncameron8390Travis Scott and stunted growth doesn’t make sense to me
Tier 1- Drake,kendrick,J cole
Tier 2- Meek Mill,Big Sean,Asap Rocky
Tier 3- Pusha T,Joey Badass,Tyga
Sean is good
Fellas like Drake & Future Definitely left Big Sean behind …. 🎤
The problem with Big Sean is that Drake was doing his flow better than he was to a point were I thought he was a Drake copy
I think the issue with Big Sean is that he never really stood for too much. And thats not to say he can't rap or makes bad music ( even though lyrical I think he's behind the big 3). Big Sean to me had more like basic level lyricism to be considered a lyrical rapper. And as far as his overall brand it didnt stick out too much. For example Drake was the pop star rapper he could do it all, Kendrick was the conscious rapper that talked about social and political issues and J Cole was the conscious rapper that connected to everyday people. Those 3 also have their own brands that they're connected to as well. But Big Sean it just seems like his brand and what he stood on wasn't much of nothing. He's a good rapper that can make really good hits. And when he wasn't making hits its seems like the majority of is music was to an extent "motivational rap". Like he never goes too too deep on certain topics or is associated with certain people and things to the point where when you see him or he's mentioned you automatically have an idea in your head of what he is and what he stands for as a rapper.
Boot camp clik and sub groups as well
This was a fair assessment of a career from one of my favorite artists...I'll add this tho...it's a damn near herculean feat to be success in the rap business. Especially when that's pretty much all you're selling. The fact that even his recent music gets as much praise and sales as it does proves that he lives in a very small section in the game. Sean is, and has been successful at being a rapper through at least 3 eras. As a Detroit native I couldn't be more proud. He didn't have to be a criminal to make it. Much love to the brotha...side note. I love this channel. Peace
He made wack kiddie-teen albums . He's very talented and well intentioned, he inspired Drakes' 2009-2010 flow (although technically Jay Z did the super dupa flow first) but Sean is kinda cheesy in some way. It was always a teen feel to his music, not really grown man music...but big s/o to his success
And stripping, dirty rap as well. He was too one dimensional and never was able branch off to create impactful records.
Everything y’all said are both correct. I’m glad he found peace with Jhene and is focusing on building a family
Everything that y’all just said was incorrect. He definitely grew on Dark Sky Paradise, I Decided and Detroit 2. He DEFINITELY grew up.
@@kennethdavis1766 he never had any stand out records from all that man lol I can name a handful of songs that were good, he’s just a monotone rapper with zero personality, idk what you’re hearing 😂 didn’t wanna be harsh, but it’s the truth
Ngl ive never been interested in anything involving big sean hes a swagg rapper with a monotone voice which equals boring to me i need energy and lyricism hes not better that anyone i listen to at all so i never wasted my time Biggie eminem jay z nas kendrick cole method man mf doom earl sweatshirt tyler the creator westsidegunn 50 cent the whole wutang clan a tribe called quest Capital steez i could go on and on i like hard lyricist and good beats and its literally nothing interesting about him not even who he dates bro me being 30+ i can name probably 50 rappers better than him
To me Big Sean has had a good career as a rapper because he has put out good music that people still play right now and he is a good lyricist that can spit his ass off. And on a side note I have a you tube channel type in Russell Mills May 22, 2017 to find me.
Top most underrated mainstream artist for me. This guy is Kendrick Lamar good.