Why did you keep mentioning tower heroes? It actually has some effort put into it and all the issues you point out among certain tower defense games are all not present in tower heroes. I can see that there's lots of RNG but it's literally just for skins and stickers? They also made it so you can buy specific skins so they aren't required.
It comes to the point where low effort tower defence games are rushed based on a whatever trend or fictional series to mock the tower defence genre is a fraud.
They are just trying to do what works, trends make a bunch of money since usually kids will play, especially on roblox and tower defense games, which are easy to make so they can just easily make something in a few days, get kids to play and boom, instant money.
I love how tds and tdx fans argue when instead they should realize they are both some of the only td games to actually have effort put into it rather then the vast majority of "we grabbed a popular game and turned it into td gambling slop!11!1!"
you forgot these game put their effort: Tower Battle Tower Blitz Tower Galactica Silly Tower Defense Arena Tower Defense Doomspire Defense and pretty much one in my opinion tried to put effort: Box Tower Defense
@@zbothhand9122 I know all of those have effort, there just wasnt much reason to try and name every single td game that has effort, im mostly talking about the stupid battle between tds and tdx anyway.
How to make a modern day tower defense game: 1: Find a trend/meme. Don't use any dead memes. 2: Use stolen code/search for youtube tutorials 3: Find models from the roblox toolbox. Don't worry, basically everything in the world is in there. 4: Make a thumbnail (screenshot, youtube thumbnail, ai generated thumbnail) 5: Put gamepasses and developer products everywhere in the game. 6: Make a gambling summon gui with exaggerated odds. 7: Put bright colors everywhere to attract kids. 8: Make a shop with units that do more dps than the rarest ones you can summon. 9: Make daily rewards with terrible stuff on the first day but overpowered items on the second day. 10: Add ads on the screen, such as "90% OFF" 11: MARKET 12: When enough kids start playing, other youtubers will shift and make content about your game. 13: 50K players 14: As more players join, you increase the p2w with each update. 15: You make irl merch 16: Your game dies.
former fntd tester here aside from the game becoming a mindless cashgrab, the game's management and staff team isn't the brightest either. a former top 1 clan leader exposed their staff members for pedophilia and favoritism as well as abusing power to silence people spreading the word about it. devs aren't innocent either, despite hundreds of requests they never switched to a bi-weekly update schedule which resulted in buggy and unfinished updates, with all of the blame going falling on testers. every update felt like a yet another wave of harassment because of something we could not even control. the mod team was also proven to be racist, 3 different mods (which are not black) were caught using the word on multiple occasions and they've also falsely accused the clan owner of pedophilia with no proof (which is illegal btw lol ) when they had a pedo on their team themselves. of course, not even their own were spared from bias. i got demoted and had my whole inventory wiped (100+ hours of playtime, have been playing since season 1 of the game) because i told a former tester what i got as tester payment. it's also worth mentioning that said tester was demoted for some stupid reasons which i can't really remember, but it's probably related with him owning a value list which was a competitor of a different value list owned by a staff member if you want to learn more about the insanely biased and illegal shenanigans going on there, dm itsanony on discord
Kinda sucks that TD games with genuine passion/skill put into them (Ones like Critical tower defense and doomspire defense are my favorites), are overshadowed by random emotionless games made by these absolute money-hungry wastes of human flesh. Great video covering it!
Fun fact: I'm working on a Tower Defence Game Myself, I (Unlike all the other tower defence games) Will Not Add gambling, Nor P2W stuff, The most expensive gamepass there will be will cost atleast 25 robux. The models will be crappy as this is a solo project, Tho I Do have some experience in Animating. Again, It does NOT. Use free models, And yes, My Tower Defence Game will flop to the bottom Due to the lack of Gambling. :,)
As a TDS player, i hate the fact that there are some tower defense games that you need to gamble for towers. In my opinion, any tower defense game that you need to gamble for towers are NOT tower defense game, but instead games that are just cashgrab to get all of that sweet premium payouts. Like bro how hard is it to make all towers buyable with coins without rng??
@Gh0u1ish-k2g fntd is a gambling slop while fnaf td has challenges to unlock the towers the ONLY gambling in it is for skins which are real easy and cheap so you dont need money to get good you need SKILL
@@somethinghappened8015 And the best part is, the only p2w the game has is VIP which buffs your xp, luck booster for skins and 3 towers you can buy, so you don't need to beat a certain map (Barely P2W and absolutely great)
Criminally underrated td game is tower adventure 0 people playing right now and it’s a shame because it has so many amazing mechanics and the maps are actually well designed Towers have unique levels, towers have health, enemies are cool and unique, absolutely no rng (except skins), not p2w, no r16 models 🤑, very good boss, tower and enemy designs and a ton of other cool stuff It mixes things up a little and I highly recommend whoever reads this to play it
There’s another underrated and amazing tower defense: FNAF Tower Defense No, not FN, but FNAF. It’s an amazing game that’s depressingly overshadowed by gamble
Worse thing is: due to how popular gambling tower defenses are, it encourages future good tower defense game devs to to waste their potential on implementing gambling as their main way of getting towers because kids nowadays just REFUSE to play anything that gives them 5 seconds of dopamine from hitting it big in gambling
I 100% agree, gacha systems in Tower Defense games are horrendous and need to be addressed by Roblox but Roblox does nothing about it because they earn millions of dollars from these games. I was excited for a game called "Fnaf World Tower Defense" as the models looked insanely high quality but when it dropped I was disappointed to find out that it had a gacha system (gambling for towers) with low quality maps and poor looking ui. If someone here is working on a tower defense game then please do NOT add a tower gacha system k thanks
Adding a gacha system literally makes you limit what towers you can get and makes good towers way harder for no reason. Having towers be able to be bought or unlocked from something allows players to decide what's best for them to use instead of being forced to use some bad ahh tower.
TRUE like i saw the game and everything looked so high quality, even the gameplay which is what most of these bad tower defense games lack the most, but then ofc there was the stupid ass gacha
The game is somewhat new but the developers REALLY need to remove this gacha system and instead add a reward system where the more levels you beat the more towers you unlock
@DelusionalDetective flavor frenzy are just the same except you don't gamble for a tower (or the character) you buy it and combos is something I don't see in other TD games (idk it's my opinion and I don't really see any towers with a combo in other games)
I myself am taking notes on some games so that i can make a tower defense game, i have the name set and have been working on enemy design concepts for almost 2 years, i have been able to get the enemy consepts but any consepts of actual towers are not in my head, buttttt i have alot of things planned out, i hope my game will not just be forgotten like many td games, my game concept has a ton of stuff, i am thinking about also adding a retention mechanic where say there is a mode that takes a while but the players have everything maxed and ready a machine will spawn that the players can interact with and play on, with stuff like pacman, donkey kong and other classic games, i want your opinion, should i add this mecanic to the gamme or no, since when i play stuff like tds and im on the late waves on hardcore it gets boring since you have everything and you just stand there clueless I also have an extreamly big idea that will help mobile players (such as me) to get rid of lag! That being a setting that can remove enemies, same thing on hardcore when you get to late waves enemies get spammed and most of the time my phone crashes, so making a feature where i can get rid of the enemy models disappear but thier hitboxes still intact would really help, like the enemies are there but at the same time not there, those are my thoughts, tell me your thoughts on this
As a someone who has played many, *many* td games, even a gamble one (I regret being lvl 150 there), there're a few games based on other franchises that are good, and games that aren't developed by a big team that are better than these gambling cashgrab games, hell, some of them are developed by one person The problem isn't the gambling, the battle cats taught me that, it's the stupid way how "Devs" if you can even call them that use it and implement it into their "games", again, if you can even call them that, and in this case, they use it as cashgrab and make it completely unfair since they're lazy to make common towers good and rare towers not top tier just because of it's stats
4:08 this is somewhat wrong. the reason turkey was banned in roblox was not because of child gambling laws. but the amount of 18+/child predatory content on roblox, this is also the same for other countries as well. roblox isn't per say "banned" in some countries but the most notable countries being belgium and the netherlands have banned specific roblox GAMES (mm2, pet sim, etc) for this reason.
0:56 everything that every tower defense developer didn't think of this idea 1: player stun 2: tower that can spawn towers in your loadout as a unit 3: tower health that same mechanic in tdx 4: event is just a waste of time for the developers cause they made all the enemies just to ended up delete them when the event ends but how to fix it? simple make a quest like you gotta do something to unlock the event again for 24 hours and you can pause the timer 5: having they own show like the family guy or the rick and Morty to keep the player entertained 6: travel back time :example: you can go back at certain update in the pass to play a gamemode that got deleted in the new update and event doesn't count and it save all your progress from the newest version to the oldest version 7: making tutorial mode tds already have 8: modifiers doomspire already have this so like you can make a gamemode easier or harder 9: power up just like in btd6 tdx and tds 10: sandbox mode you already know this if you not is just a gamemode that you can experiment with something but you only can have your own tower example: if you don't have a trapper tower you can't place it in sandbox mode but if you have you can place it in sandbox mode so you have a reason to grind for towers 11: custom gamemode basically player over lvl 150-250 can make they own custom gamemode and you can sell it into the public with coins or gems 12: custom skin the same thing as custom game mode but skin 13 custom map the same thing as custom skin and custom gamemode but as a map 14: challenge game mode tds already have this cause if you're max lvl and have all the towers there's nothing you can do left but wait for the update but you can do the custom challenge from others players and it give you a lot of coins or gems well at least you have a reason to play the game now AND YET NO DEVELOPER EVER THINK THE MOST OF THIS IDEA HOW NO ONE EVER THINK OF THIS
I’m sorry for the very long comment, but I have to explain the issue in detail with these types of TD games. I think the issue with these gambling games is that every tower feels the same when it comes to how it works. They just attack but get stronger if they are more rare (I guess farms are there too but still). It kinda ruins the point of using a set up of towers that are perfect to combat the stage the player or players are going to do. In fact, it’s mostly using the most powerful towers to beat levels, just using raw power to complete them. That’s why I still enjoy TDS, TDX, and even Doomspire Defense (which I just started playing a couple days ago) today, since the towers are easy to get since you don’t need to gamble, just buy them, and they have differences that can make players decide if they are useful for the hard stages. Even some of the towers have abilities like making your tower upgrades cheaper, make them attack faster, and etc. I play Battle Cats so I am used to the gambling formula, but I’ve never paid a single penny in that game, and it at least has so many units that can help you fight against the multiple different types of enemies. Hell, I even play BTD6 and there are so many ways you can use the multiple amount of monkeys (and heroes) to play the different stages and difficulties, and they are a lot of fun to use. Overall, these lazy, P2W cash grabs are terrible when it comes to strategies which is why they are just not even fun to play. It’s all just: More rare tower = more power
Unlike these slop roblox tower defense games, going off the same gambling aspect time and time again, some games do the gacha aspect right, going out of roblox you find stuff like the battle cats, where the gacha aspect is barely even required to progress, but you can still win even without the gacha mechanic.
To address some of your Ball TD criticism: - I wouldn't say it's lazy, there's still so much I want to add and my hope is that it can be the best a gacha game could possibly be - I would like to maybe one day have unique models for each upgrade! Gameplay is just a higher priority to me atm plus we do not have the resources to achieve this rn. - Can you please provide more feedback on why the game you feel the game is unplayable? I would also like to add I totally get the criticisms against gambling and what not, but me personally, I enjoy playing those types of games lol. Also thank you for calling our game original 🔥
1- UI is terrible and looks like it was from a game in 2017 2- theres no balance in the game, you just made it extremely easy to progress so kids play and gamble more, which is smart ngl
If you want some good and innovative TD games, i have two Monolith Defense: there's so many unique mechanics like the faction system, towers are put into different factions which have themes and synergies (there's a gacha but all units are the same rarity and it's really easy to get pulls) and they have a system where you can upgrade towers i'd suggest you check it out The Battle Bricks: it's like The Battle Cats as the name suggests but it takes it's own twists on things and is really fun and has a lot of content
There is actually a really good fnaf tower defense game called fnaf td you should definitely check it out you play as the staff and some others and its overall a great game with good mechanics, semi consistent updates, lots of things to do, a lot of towers and high quality models and skins.
It's kinda sad that tower heroes is dying and roblox just had shitty td games. Also idk if u have/haven't try play bloons but I would personally recommend play it.
bro I miss when games like toy defenders were popular, toy defenders was discontinued, there are other dead games like tower defenders (still gets updated) , critical tower defense, pixel gun tower defense, speaking of pixel gun tower defense, they released a game called pixel gun tower defense 3 which was a gambling game and it got so popular and then died, idk what happened to the group, and there is probably many more I havent listed that died over people playing lazy slop gamling defense games, it actually sad seeing games you like die
im glad im not the only one who joins a tower defense game and looks around the menu for like 10 minutes thinking "where on earth do you buy towers?" then i see the "SUMMON" circle in the corner of the map and just leave
I don’t care what anyone says. Flutter charging at 80MPH towards a twisted is infinitely better than whatever she actually does in the original Dandy’s world.
this makes me sad. i made a tower defense game, and sure, i added RNG/gambling to it, atleast YOU CAN GET TOWERS NORMALLY. gacha units are optional, and there are more normal towers than gacha towers. i used a kit (like most of these), but atleast i actually put effort into the game, like multiple lanes/tracks, enemies being able to survive death, booster, summoner AND farm towers, buffs and debuffs, and a lot more.
I don't even played nor touched these types of td games, as a doomspire defense enjoyer, uhh.. I don't know what dialogue to add here so uhh.... Get pwned, i guess
Underrated TD game: Noob Tower Defense (red ruby studios) Has less than 10 CCPs usualy, but has free sandbox at lvl 10, Map Maker at lvl 20 and overall is pretty fun to play
I bet there's like a free model containing literally everything from these slops, and then random devs just replace the units with some random trendy thing out there.
"doomspire defense is a good game" GET OUT OF MYHEAD GETOUTOFMYHEAD GET OUT IOF MNY HEAD GET OUT OF MYHEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD ET OUT OF MY HEAD
I know of a tower defense game called Spirit Defenders currently in its early stages, and it's absolutely amazing for being an early beta. It is most definitely the most unique tower defense game on the platform by far i heavily recommend trying it
You should try monolith defense. Its a td game with a gacha system but it actually does it good. The biggest difference it makes is that there isnt a 0.01 percent unit or some bs like that and every unit has the same chance of getting.and every unit is good and there isnt really a powercreep.
The game should get its progression figured out, the upgrades for your towers and the skill tree makes it seem the game would be better with a more linear stage progression like kingdom rush, idk about doing it with 3 main gamemodes that will never catch up to your progression and a bunch of other side things...
when i first played ball td, i realized that the first tower i got was from a crate, then I was like: "do not tell me these towers are only obtained through crates" and I was right.
Would you try FWTD? Fazbear World Tower Defense?? They have custom made models, though they have the ordinary gambling system but the animations are well polished. ( yeah it’s like a better version of FNTD in my opinion
At this point we are getting to this meme: "santa can i get a dragon?" "Ay get more realistic!" "Then can you give me a tower defense game on roblox without gambling?" "What color do you want your dragon."
It's either TDS or TDX collabs with tower heroes to keep tower heroes alive cuz ik that tower heroes is a very good game just dominated by sloppy rng games cuz of prob sols rng influence that impacted so many kids
Tower defence simulator: am I a joke to you?! TDX: am I a joke to YOU? The towers die in my game! TB: step aside, my game is the original, the best. Tower hero’s: hey i collaborate with the biggest horror game! Tower defence simulator: we literally just collaborated with pls donate. The trash gambling games: I need attention.
There's another slop tower defense that's somewhat popular that wasn't mentioned in this video: Undertale adventures, basically, stolen models? Check. Popular Ip? Also check. Has gambling and gamepasses? Triple check
in case you didn't know: all of these games are attempts to profit after the anime adventures formula after anime adventures god deleted, many and many games tried to fill it's spot by making another gambling + powercreep grind simulator and yet somehow the roblox playerbase is stupid enough that ppl will play a game like that for months, notice that it is a powercreep and grind fest and the units they spent hours grinding for are now completly outclassed AND keep playing and repeating that cycle funniest thing is that: then another game that's the EXACT SAME will release, they will quit the one they were playing to grind the new one from 0 💀
i never thought a tower heroes youtuber just makes this video about sloppy td games out of the blue, thank and i mean THANK YOU for pointing this out (espiecally fnaf td..)
Hey duck Adam, I’ve been delving into the tower defense genre a little bit more and might be cooking up a game, it’s gonna have no filthy robloxians, I’m gonna try to give it as little gambling as possible, I’ll try to stick to unique enemies but will make enemy variants sometimes to make it easier, and will pour my soul into the maps. The only thing I might have an issue with is balancing. Any tips on what would make it a great game? Because I’m tired of the slop that is tower defense on roblox.
I know I am not Adam, but I can give you some tips too. (Because you already said some good things, I won't include them here) 1) When every map has different difficulties, you shouldn't only buff the hp and damge or speed from something because it's a bit lazy (yet pretty effective way) to do it like this. But instead also change, add or buff some waves too, so it isn't repetetive, doing the same map again, just with stronger enemies, but it also gives a TD-game a lot more of replayability. 2) Don't make it too grindy (at least the core game). You shouldn't make getting the towers too grindy, since it kinda kills motivation to unlock towers and to play the game. You shouldn't make it too easy either. (That's pretty hard to do, so don't be that weird and strict (nono, just a joke, pls don't ratio me) about yourself, when it isn't perfect, especially when it's your first game. HOWEVER, stuff that isn't required to play the game (Cosmetics, maybe rare archivments, or secrets) can be made grindy to give people who like playing your game another motivation to play it (the people who play a lot) (maybe even extra towers that aren't rquired to play, but are just a bonus) 3) is following
3) Your game should have it's own identity and not completly based on something that is popular or on someone elses work (for example all the Skibidi Toilet TD-games using the work of Dafuqboom to get money). Inspiration is 100000% legit, just like references to things you like. However don't inspire you too much from others (for example making a unit inspired by Sans, and it ending up, like it's literally just Sans) or don't make too much references. 4) ADD JOJO-REFERENCES! GOOD GRIEF, EVERYTHING NEEDS JOJO-REFERENCES, SINCE EVERYTHING IS A JOJO-REFERENCE! WRYYYYYYYYY Hope they help a bit
As a FNTD player, it's true I wanted to get old man consequences for a LONG time and It'a just gambling and gambling and I played the kronos event bc u could get an Apex (best rarity on game) by only playing without gambling
Duck I have a question for you if you're interested i am in need of some people to help me get my td game popular when it releases. It is a space-themed td game with planets, cutscenes, space towers, etc. If you would like to play it I hope to release it in January!
Completely agree honestly these are really really bad there's barely any good tower defenses on roblox now a days if they would just put at least some effort like so towers change when upgrading or be more original and don't make it based off popular trends they would actually be good and of course REMOVE GAMBLING AND TRADING it honestly feels like people are playing these just to gamble or trade with people
Im working on my own td game, which will have less p2w and more f2p options for event towers that are from previous events (some p2w not much tho) … Its 1% done 💀
The thing is their is a actually good fnaftd game out there i played it and it was actually fun the only form of gambleing there was is skins which are Purley cosmetic it's really fun.
Fntd doesn’t deserve hate it’s a great game also you act like there aren’t skin crates in tower heroes fntd has some really good music, an arg happened at some point(and more of them to come hopefully), and anything bought with Robux is either not good or can be bought with other means like souls or coins. The game is Grindy but so is tower heroes, and the biggest excuse I see haters use is “u have to grind so much just to get a chance to get something good” like summoning is the only way to get units when there are plenty of other ways. The summon units also have evolutions so that new players have something better to use before they get good unit. Did I forget to mention the enchant system?
First of all skins aren’t needed in tower heroes, second of all FNAF TD is all gambling???? the enchants summon the presents OH AND DONT EVEN MENTION THE APEXES AND THE UNGODLY CHANCES (edit) THE MUSIC SUCKS WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
@@bub_plays we have very different definitions of good music, and after reading your comment, I realized that there’s no point to argue over something pointless, sure it’s gambling slop, but it’s my gambling slop. I like the game cus I can, and if you don’t, that’s fine. We each have our own opinions. Have a good day.
Personally I like ball tower defense I just think it’s kinda funny how low quality it is But I kinda am addicted 😨 Also I think the whole point of ball tower defense is that it’s low quality
Duck adam, you may not like this game, but I reccommend trying base Defence! I myself am a tester for the game and we have some huge plans coming, so maybe you'll like it if you stick around.
whenever i see more talk about these games it just reminds me when i actually had fun with this genre, when i actually had good games to play COUGHOCUGH tower blitz tower blitz was the only tower defense game that geniunely stuck out to me even after i've grinded a good amount of others that i honestly like alot less (towerhero, flavor frenzy, doomspire(EW)defense, tds and probably more) the gacha tower defense games that have zero originality are miserable and all but it sucks to know that the "good" tower defense games nowadays are kind of painfully average/below average and have really grindy or just unfun gimmicks and balancing, i could very much go on a long rant about the games i previously mentioned, theres just so much to say about them and their issues
You forgot to mention the house TD. Everything is just alright and it's pretty tedious to play (comming from someone who was stupid enough to play the game)
Basically, the only good tower defense games are tower heroes (not on first place or idk which spot??) TDX, tower defense simulator, and one of the most underrated tower defense games is flavor frenzy, basically having better balacing, a endless mode for the endgame, no rng (expect for the endless mode and skins ofc.) this game isn’t sadly gonna be updated for a long time because, of dandy’s world, when its gonna get updated that dandy’s world is not on beta/alpha i highly recommend to play this because, its like tower heroes but more fun, better replay, way better balancing (ofc) because this game is somewhat forgotten, and cant get the events happening because of THAT developer.
There is still lot of good tower defense games out there, just not that popular, for example i really like pixel gun tower defense, chaos defenders, budget pvz, all three of these games have lots of unique mechanics and really really underrated
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there is an underated fnaf tower defense with only 100 players average but it is good but closed for updates but it is not as sloppy
Fnaf tower defense and not the one in tue vid
You should try the house td
Actually, fnaf td is a different game than five nights td
Why did you keep mentioning tower heroes? It actually has some effort put into it and all the issues you point out among certain tower defense games are all not present in tower heroes. I can see that there's lots of RNG but it's literally just for skins and stickers? They also made it so you can buy specific skins so they aren't required.
It comes to the point where low effort tower defence games are rushed based on a whatever trend or fictional series to mock the tower defence genre is a fraud.
They are just trying to do what works, trends make a bunch of money since usually kids will play, especially on roblox and tower defense games, which are easy to make so they can just easily make something in a few days, get kids to play and boom, instant money.
@@Xero_Eigengrauand guess what it doesn't matter if u get money or fame, if ur game is trash it doesn't work, theres no fun or enjoyment in gambling
@serily4524 That's where kids come in.
They play anything way too easy, or something popular that appears in their screens 24/7.
I love how tds and tdx fans argue when instead they should realize they are both some of the only td games to actually have effort put into it rather then the vast majority of "we grabbed a popular game and turned it into td gambling slop!11!1!"
what about fnaf tower defense not gamble one
it's like tower defense simulator but as fnaf and put amazing effect into game
you forgot these game put their effort:
Tower Battle
Tower Blitz
Tower Galactica
Silly Tower Defense
Arena Tower Defense
Doomspire Defense
and pretty much one in my opinion tried to put effort:
Box Tower Defense
there might be more though
@@zbothhand9122 I know all of those have effort, there just wasnt much reason to try and name every single td game that has effort, im mostly talking about the stupid battle between tds and tdx anyway.
How to make a modern day tower defense game:
1: Find a trend/meme. Don't use any dead memes.
2: Use stolen code/search for youtube tutorials
3: Find models from the roblox toolbox. Don't worry, basically everything in the world is in there.
4: Make a thumbnail (screenshot, youtube thumbnail, ai generated thumbnail)
5: Put gamepasses and developer products everywhere in the game.
6: Make a gambling summon gui with exaggerated odds.
7: Put bright colors everywhere to attract kids.
8: Make a shop with units that do more dps than the rarest ones you can summon.
9: Make daily rewards with terrible stuff on the first day but overpowered items on the second day.
10: Add ads on the screen, such as "90% OFF"
11: MARKET
12: When enough kids start playing, other youtubers will shift and make content about your game.
13: 50K players
14: As more players join, you increase the p2w with each update.
15: You make irl merch
16: Your game dies.
U forgot nfts
former fntd tester here
aside from the game becoming a mindless cashgrab, the game's management and staff team isn't the brightest either. a former top 1 clan leader exposed their staff members for pedophilia and favoritism as well as abusing power to silence people spreading the word about it. devs aren't innocent either, despite hundreds of requests they never switched to a bi-weekly update schedule which resulted in buggy and unfinished updates, with all of the blame going falling on testers. every update felt like a yet another wave of harassment because of something we could not even control.
the mod team was also proven to be racist, 3 different mods (which are not black) were caught using the word on multiple occasions and they've also falsely accused the clan owner of pedophilia with no proof (which is illegal btw lol ) when they had a pedo on their team themselves.
of course, not even their own were spared from bias. i got demoted and had my whole inventory wiped (100+ hours of playtime, have been playing since season 1 of the game) because i told a former tester what i got as tester payment. it's also worth mentioning that said tester was demoted for some stupid reasons which i can't really remember, but it's probably related with him owning a value list which was a competitor of a different value list owned by a staff member
if you want to learn more about the insanely biased and illegal shenanigans going on there, dm itsanony on discord
You should go work for tds or tdx or any tower defense game that have good reputation and the devs are good
Kinda sucks that TD games with genuine passion/skill put into them (Ones like Critical tower defense and doomspire defense are my favorites), are overshadowed by random emotionless games made by these absolute money-hungry wastes of human flesh.
Great video covering it!
Doomspire defense is good ngl
I recommend playing master td, it's like critical.
No way an actual ctd player in 2024?! Theres not many of us left
BROOOOOOOO CTD IS SO GOOD I USEF TO PLAY IT BACK IN LIKE 2022 WHEN PHANTOM FIRST APPEARED ( i got it back then)
i had phantom and dumpster fire my goat fr
Fun fact: I'm working on a Tower Defence Game Myself, I (Unlike all the other tower defence games) Will Not Add gambling, Nor P2W stuff, The most expensive gamepass there will be will cost atleast 25 robux. The models will be crappy as this is a solo project, Tho I Do have some experience in Animating. Again, It does NOT. Use free models, And yes, My Tower Defence Game will flop to the bottom Due to the lack of Gambling. :,)
Good luck ✊
As a TDS player, i hate the fact that there are some tower defense games that you need to gamble for towers. In my opinion, any tower defense game that you need to gamble for towers are NOT tower defense game, but instead games that are just cashgrab to get all of that sweet premium payouts. Like bro how hard is it to make all towers buyable with coins without rng??
They are just using gambling so they can get money from kids trying to use all of mom's credit card to get super omega knee surgery grinch.
How tf did we go from tower battles to shit tower defense games with no effort put in it
not like tds is any better, but these games have clear intentions set
@serily4524 Why isn't TDS better?
@serily4524tds is much better than the slop tower defense games. You guys hate on tds too much over little mistakes they make
Making a dandy’s world tower defense is absolutely stupid since flavor frenzy is a thing
when my health is slowly declining but i need to get the 0.01% chance healthcare tower to defeat my illness
Ye that's cuz the game has a new owner because the old one got pwned in sfoth
It is really frustrating to see slop games do better than good ones…
please dont call that thing FNAF TD its FNTD cause the WAY better game called FNAF TD exists
What is wrong with these fnaf td glazers, like it’s a good game but there’s no reason to hate on fntd because what did they do
@Gh0u1ish-k2g fntd is a gambling slop while fnaf td has challenges to unlock the towers the ONLY gambling in it is for skins which are real easy and cheap so you dont need money to get good you need SKILL
@@somethinghappened8015 which fnaf td there are like 5
@@somethinghappened8015 And the best part is, the only p2w the game has is VIP which buffs your xp, luck booster for skins and 3 towers you can buy, so you don't need to beat a certain map (Barely P2W and absolutely great)
@@Gh0u1ish-k2g the only good 1
Criminally underrated td game is tower adventure
0 people playing right now and it’s a shame because it has so many amazing mechanics and the maps are actually well designed
Towers have unique levels, towers have health, enemies are cool and unique, absolutely no rng (except skins), not p2w, no r16 models 🤑, very good boss, tower and enemy designs and a ton of other cool stuff
It mixes things up a little and I highly recommend whoever reads this to play it
it had like 300+ active players 4 months ago what happened
@@notreallol-g4c stopped updating and died, its getting a remake tho
finally someone mentioned that game, i swear it died way faster than it should've
There’s another underrated and amazing tower defense: FNAF Tower Defense
No, not FN, but FNAF.
It’s an amazing game that’s depressingly overshadowed by gamble
Worse thing is: due to how popular gambling tower defenses are, it encourages future good tower defense game devs to to waste their potential on implementing gambling as their main way of getting towers because kids nowadays just REFUSE to play anything that gives them 5 seconds of dopamine from hitting it big in gambling
I 100% agree, gacha systems in Tower Defense games are horrendous and need to be addressed by Roblox but Roblox does nothing about it because they earn millions of dollars from these games.
I was excited for a game called "Fnaf World Tower Defense" as the models looked insanely high quality but when it dropped I was disappointed to find out that it had a gacha system (gambling for towers) with low quality maps and poor looking ui.
If someone here is working on a tower defense game then please do NOT add a tower gacha system k thanks
Undelusional detective
Adding a gacha system literally makes you limit what towers you can get and makes good towers way harder for no reason. Having towers be able to be bought or unlocked from something allows players to decide what's best for them to use instead of being forced to use some bad ahh tower.
TRUE like i saw the game and everything looked so high quality, even the gameplay which is what most of these bad tower defense games lack the most, but then ofc there was the stupid ass gacha
The game is somewhat new but the developers REALLY need to remove this gacha system and instead add a reward system where the more levels you beat the more towers you unlock
@DelusionalDetective flavor frenzy are just the same except you don't gamble for a tower (or the character) you buy it and combos is something I don't see in other TD games (idk it's my opinion and I don't really see any towers with a combo in other games)
I myself am taking notes on some games so that i can make a tower defense game, i have the name set and have been working on enemy design concepts for almost 2 years, i have been able to get the enemy consepts but any consepts of actual towers are not in my head, buttttt i have alot of things planned out, i hope my game will not just be forgotten like many td games, my game concept has a ton of stuff, i am thinking about also adding a retention mechanic where say there is a mode that takes a while but the players have everything maxed and ready a machine will spawn that the players can interact with and play on, with stuff like pacman, donkey kong and other classic games, i want your opinion, should i add this mecanic to the gamme or no, since when i play stuff like tds and im on the late waves on hardcore it gets boring since you have everything and you just stand there clueless
I also have an extreamly big idea that will help mobile players (such as me) to get rid of lag! That being a setting that can remove enemies, same thing on hardcore when you get to late waves enemies get spammed and most of the time my phone crashes, so making a feature where i can get rid of the enemy models disappear but thier hitboxes still intact would really help, like the enemies are there but at the same time not there, those are my thoughts, tell me your thoughts on this
As a someone who has played many, *many* td games, even a gamble one (I regret being lvl 150 there), there're a few games based on other franchises that are good, and games that aren't developed by a big team that are better than these gambling cashgrab games, hell, some of them are developed by one person
The problem isn't the gambling, the battle cats taught me that, it's the stupid way how "Devs" if you can even call them that use it and implement it into their "games", again, if you can even call them that, and in this case, they use it as cashgrab and make it completely unfair since they're lazy to make common towers good and rare towers not top tier just because of it's stats
Yay battle cats mention
Hmm what about... Arknights
That's also a gacha TD game but also follows the main point of this genre
@lancer0327 I have never heared of that one, but I will try, I will be so proud if it's good gambling
Tbh I wish some of the underated game gets the chance to be in a spotlight, like doomspire defense, the battle brick, and tdx
Also them making based on an ip like sprunki when they know that the hype will die down for it is such a bad idea
They just do it for the quick cash
4:08 this is somewhat wrong. the reason turkey was banned in roblox was not because of child gambling laws. but the amount of 18+/child predatory content on roblox, this is also the same for other countries as well. roblox isn't per say "banned" in some countries but the most notable countries being belgium and the netherlands have banned specific roblox GAMES (mm2, pet sim, etc) for this reason.
It was 4 a game called "tax evasion" but our government used "child safety" as an excuse 2 ban it [same applies 2 DC]
0:56 everything that every tower defense developer didn't think of this idea
1: player stun
2: tower that can spawn towers in your loadout as a unit
3: tower health that same mechanic in tdx
4: event is just a waste of time for the developers cause they made all the enemies just to ended up delete them when the event ends but how to fix it? simple make a quest like you gotta do something to unlock the event again for 24 hours and you can pause the timer
5: having they own show like the family guy or the rick and Morty to keep the player entertained
6: travel back time :example: you can go back at certain update in the pass to play a gamemode that got deleted in the new update and event doesn't count and it save all your progress from the newest version to the oldest version
7: making tutorial mode tds already have
8: modifiers doomspire already have this so like you can make a gamemode easier or harder
9: power up just like in btd6 tdx and tds
10: sandbox mode you already know this if you not is just a gamemode that you can experiment with something but you only can have your own tower example: if you don't have a trapper tower you can't place it in sandbox mode but if you have you can place it in sandbox mode so you have a reason to grind for towers
11: custom gamemode basically player over lvl 150-250 can make they own custom gamemode and you can sell it into the public with coins or gems
12: custom skin the same thing as custom game mode but skin
13 custom map the same thing as custom skin and custom gamemode but as a map
14: challenge game mode tds already have this cause if you're max lvl and have all the towers there's nothing you can do left but wait for the update but you can do the custom challenge from others players and it give you a lot of coins or gems well at least you have a reason to play the game now
AND YET NO DEVELOPER EVER THINK THE MOST OF THIS IDEA HOW NO ONE EVER THINK OF THIS
Tower Blitz also has modifiers and I don't know how Player Stun would make sense
Half of, if not most of these ideas are not even good.
Also alot of these have been done before so idk why you listed them as "not been thought of"
As a ball tower defense player, i agree that the game is mindless cash grab and lame maps like its rlly horrible
I’m sorry for the very long comment, but I have to explain the issue in detail with these types of TD games.
I think the issue with these gambling games is that every tower feels the same when it comes to how it works. They just attack but get stronger if they are more rare (I guess farms are there too but still). It kinda ruins the point of using a set up of towers that are perfect to combat the stage the player or players are going to do. In fact, it’s mostly using the most powerful towers to beat levels, just using raw power to complete them.
That’s why I still enjoy TDS, TDX, and even Doomspire Defense (which I just started playing a couple days ago) today, since the towers are easy to get since you don’t need to gamble, just buy them, and they have differences that can make players decide if they are useful for the hard stages. Even some of the towers have abilities like making your tower upgrades cheaper, make them attack faster, and etc.
I play Battle Cats so I am used to the gambling formula, but I’ve never paid a single penny in that game, and it at least has so many units that can help you fight against the multiple different types of enemies. Hell, I even play BTD6 and there are so many ways you can use the multiple amount of monkeys (and heroes) to play the different stages and difficulties, and they are a lot of fun to use.
Overall, these lazy, P2W cash grabs are terrible when it comes to strategies which is why they are just not even fun to play. It’s all just:
More rare tower = more power
Unlike these slop roblox tower defense games, going off the same gambling aspect time and time again, some games do the gacha aspect right, going out of roblox you find stuff like the battle cats, where the gacha aspect is barely even required to progress, but you can still win even without the gacha mechanic.
This is why im making my own with alot of mechanics…
I feel like nowadays td games don’t have any new ideas since every new thing is more rare
To address some of your Ball TD criticism:
- I wouldn't say it's lazy, there's still so much I want to add and my hope is that it can be the best a gacha game could possibly be
- I would like to maybe one day have unique models for each upgrade! Gameplay is just a higher priority to me atm plus we do not have the resources to achieve this rn.
- Can you please provide more feedback on why the game you feel the game is unplayable?
I would also like to add I totally get the criticisms against gambling and what not, but me personally, I enjoy playing those types of games lol.
Also thank you for calling our game original 🔥
1- UI is terrible and looks like it was from a game in 2017
2- theres no balance in the game, you just made it extremely easy to progress so kids play and gamble more, which is smart ngl
If you want some good and innovative TD games, i have two
Monolith Defense: there's so many unique mechanics like the faction system, towers are put into different factions which have themes and synergies (there's a gacha but all units are the same rarity and it's really easy to get pulls) and they have a system where you can upgrade towers i'd suggest you check it out
The Battle Bricks: it's like The Battle Cats as the name suggests but it takes it's own twists on things and is really fun and has a lot of content
There is actually a really good fnaf tower defense game called fnaf td you should definitely check it out you play as the staff and some others and its overall a great game with good mechanics, semi consistent updates, lots of things to do, a lot of towers and high quality models and skins.
Currently getting a complete revamp from what I've seen and heard.
Let's just hope it'll be good (what I think wil be the case, but you never know)
Halloween- no wait Decemebeween is actually kinda peak (they did add the Fortnite battlepass tho)
It's kinda sad that tower heroes is dying and roblox just had shitty td games. Also idk if u have/haven't try play bloons but I would personally recommend play it.
I played the og bloons at school as a kid, really hope to revisit it for a future video
@@duck_adamI played btd 1-4 once
@duck_adam i would suggest getting btd6 i personally really like it and would love to see u play it
What I do know that TDS and TDX are still somewhat alive, so maybe TDS can do a collab with tower heroes one day
Also doomspire defense dying (
also dandy's world sitting on the thumbnail not knowing why this mf put the game as a "td game"
In the video I talk about the shitty fandys world td that was taken down. Watch it.
I buyed the "LIMITED" Golden Pomni
In circus tower defense and it
haven't updated in months😭
i bought the 1000 robux stupid christmad abstract guy right before the game went desd
I ask WHY would you do that😭@Coolsunguy442
why
Can i say... Skill issue
thats the reason i dont play roblox as much, it has a lot of slop.I see a game that looks promesing and BOOM gambling,stolen assets,etc
But hey Roblox is going to fight back against a lot of slop games
@lancer0327 No no... It makes them money you silly...
@@joelalayon5367 have you not get the memo?
They're going to ban spam games
Bro I hate the new tower defense games that is just RNG and when it’s a actual game with ACTUAL work put in its underrated
bro I miss when games like toy defenders were popular, toy defenders was discontinued, there are other dead games like tower defenders (still gets updated) , critical tower defense, pixel gun tower defense, speaking of pixel gun tower defense, they released a game called pixel gun tower defense 3 which was a gambling game and it got so popular and then died, idk what happened to the group, and there is probably many more I havent listed that died over people playing lazy slop gamling defense games, it actually sad seeing games you like die
im glad im not the only one who joins a tower defense game and looks around the menu for like 10 minutes thinking "where on earth do you buy towers?"
then i see the "SUMMON" circle in the corner of the map and just leave
I don’t care what anyone says. Flutter charging at 80MPH towards a twisted is infinitely better than whatever she actually does in the original Dandy’s world.
You can do basically that in dandy's world lmao
this makes me sad. i made a tower defense game, and sure, i added RNG/gambling to it, atleast YOU CAN GET TOWERS NORMALLY. gacha units are optional, and there are more normal towers than gacha towers. i used a kit (like most of these), but atleast i actually put effort into the game, like multiple lanes/tracks, enemies being able to survive death, booster, summoner AND farm towers, buffs and debuffs, and a lot more.
its called ro-defence:renewed, check out (shilling the game for you rn)
@@throwawayaccount351 thanks cema/xian whichever one you are
I don't even played nor touched these types of td games, as a doomspire defense enjoyer, uhh.. I don't know what dialogue to add here so uhh.... Get pwned, i guess
Doomspire defense mentioned what the heck is a pizza place
Underrated TD game: Noob Tower Defense (red ruby studios)
Has less than 10 CCPs usualy, but has free sandbox at lvl 10, Map Maker at lvl 20 and overall is pretty fun to play
I bet there's like a free model containing literally everything from these slops, and then random devs just replace the units with some random trendy thing out there.
The only tower defense that isnt boring and no gambling is just flavor frenzy😭
Edit: war😋
yeah flavor frenzy is one of the only good ones😭😭😭
May I introduce you lads to doomspire tower defense?
@@CeruleanSupporter no.😛
(Jk)
"doomspire defense is a good game" GET OUT OF MYHEAD GETOUTOFMYHEAD GET OUT IOF MNY HEAD GET OUT OF MYHEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD ET OUT OF MY HEAD
@@ephhemeraal how bad is Doomspire defense?
I know of a tower defense game called Spirit Defenders currently in its early stages, and it's absolutely amazing for being an early beta. It is most definitely the most unique tower defense game on the platform by far i heavily recommend trying it
You should try monolith defense. Its a td game with a gacha system but it actually does it good. The biggest difference it makes is that there isnt a 0.01 percent unit or some bs like that and every unit has the same chance of getting.and every unit is good and there isnt really a powercreep.
i got the ice railgun
The game should get its progression figured out, the upgrades for your towers and the skill tree makes it seem the game would be better with a more linear stage progression like kingdom rush, idk about doing it with 3 main gamemodes that will never catch up to your progression and a bunch of other side things...
Gone are the days of tower galactica, an attempt at good tower defense
Ball tower defense is legit so awful. The only good thing about it is the QoL features it has, which alone doesn’t make it fun.
when i first played ball td, i realized that the first tower i got was from a crate, then I was like: "do not tell me these towers are only obtained through crates" and I was right.
And hey, the kdds of getting good towers are just somewhere in the millions
Bro just wants to get rid of the competition for tds and tdx and tower battles and tower blitz.
ok gambling addict
arghh im working on a td game and im thinking of custom gamemodes, maybe custom maps but the other devs dont like the idea that much 😔
Would you try FWTD? Fazbear World Tower Defense?? They have custom made models, though they have the ordinary gambling system but the animations are well polished. ( yeah it’s like a better version of FNTD in my opinion
how did we go from tower battles to this bruh 😭😭😭
I've only heard good things about that game might try it in the future
tower battles video would be beautiuflhh
At this point we are getting to this meme: "santa can i get a dragon?"
"Ay get more realistic!"
"Then can you give me a tower defense game on roblox without gambling?"
"What color do you want your dragon."
its funny to the point where communities of tds and tdx argue about stealing while in the same time the owners are friends
Didn't TDS also helped programming it?
I do think ball td had some effort atleast put into it, the one main thing that makes it bad is the [GAMBLING]
Plus upgreades dont change the tower. Plus reapeting enemies. Plus boring bosses
next thing is gambling tower defense where you gamble for EVERYTHING
Fntd was peak before the sister location season
But also fntd is making money of anothers persons IP so Scott could literally sue them
the worst thing is that before that five nights tower defense there already was a really high quality one called fnaf tower defense
Nasa collab is happening dec 64 2087
It's either TDS or TDX collabs with tower heroes to keep tower heroes alive cuz ik that tower heroes is a very good game just dominated by sloppy rng games cuz of prob sols rng influence that impacted so many kids
But some of the tds community hates tower heroes
when mom brings home the sludge
Can’t live in the roblox community without someone being mad
Tower defence simulator: am I a joke to you?!
TDX: am I a joke to YOU? The towers die in my game!
TB: step aside, my game is the original, the best.
Tower hero’s: hey i collaborate with the biggest horror game!
Tower defence simulator: we literally just collaborated with pls donate.
The trash gambling games: I need attention.
As a fntd fan well I know its about gamble but the models maybe the designs will be better in the future
That doesnt make the game enjoyable
@ I mean yea toilet tower defense is the worse because brain rot plus with sprunki
@ but if there’s a future update removing the gamble it will be better plus enjoyable
tb has better tower models smh
Ah yes, of course the models are gonna look better in the future. So who cares if a few kids have to develop crippling gambling addiction for it?
There's another slop tower defense that's somewhat popular that wasn't mentioned in this video: Undertale adventures, basically, stolen models? Check. Popular Ip? Also check. Has gambling and gamepasses? Triple check
in case you didn't know: all of these games are attempts to profit after the anime adventures formula
after anime adventures god deleted, many and many games tried to fill it's spot by making another gambling + powercreep grind simulator
and yet somehow the roblox playerbase is stupid enough that ppl will play a game like that for months, notice that it is a powercreep and grind fest and the units they spent hours grinding for are now completly outclassed AND keep playing and repeating that cycle
funniest thing is that: then another game that's the EXACT SAME will release, they will quit the one they were playing to grind the new one from 0 💀
i never thought a tower heroes youtuber just makes this video about sloppy td games out of the blue, thank and i mean THANK YOU for pointing this out (espiecally fnaf td..)
How about work in my game *Base Defender*
Its a defend the center type of td game.
I'm waiting.
I love how Ball tower defense creators call
Crash grab games $$$$
as a person who is a pro at brawl stars they should have just straight up made every single gambling unit just edgar but a different shade of color
Hey duck Adam, I’ve been delving into the tower defense genre a little bit more and might be cooking up a game, it’s gonna have no filthy robloxians, I’m gonna try to give it as little gambling as possible, I’ll try to stick to unique enemies but will make enemy variants sometimes to make it easier, and will pour my soul into the maps. The only thing I might have an issue with is balancing. Any tips on what would make it a great game? Because I’m tired of the slop that is tower defense on roblox.
I know I am not Adam, but I can give you some tips too.
(Because you already said some good things, I won't include them here)
1) When every map has different difficulties, you shouldn't only buff the hp and damge or speed from something because it's a bit lazy (yet pretty effective way) to do it like this. But instead also change, add or buff some waves too, so it isn't repetetive, doing the same map again, just with stronger enemies, but it also gives a TD-game a lot more of replayability.
2) Don't make it too grindy (at least the core game).
You shouldn't make getting the towers too grindy, since it kinda kills motivation to unlock towers and to play the game. You shouldn't make it too easy either.
(That's pretty hard to do, so don't be that weird and strict (nono, just a joke, pls don't ratio me) about yourself, when it isn't perfect, especially when it's your first game. HOWEVER, stuff that isn't required to play the game (Cosmetics, maybe rare archivments, or secrets) can be made grindy to give people who like playing your game another motivation to play it (the people who play a lot) (maybe even extra towers that aren't rquired to play, but are just a bonus)
3) is following
3) Your game should have it's own identity and not completly based on something that is popular or on someone elses work (for example all the Skibidi Toilet TD-games using the work of Dafuqboom to get money). Inspiration is 100000% legit, just like references to things you like. However don't inspire you too much from others (for example making a unit inspired by Sans, and it ending up, like it's literally just Sans) or don't make too much references.
4) ADD JOJO-REFERENCES!
GOOD GRIEF, EVERYTHING NEEDS JOJO-REFERENCES, SINCE EVERYTHING IS A JOJO-REFERENCE! WRYYYYYYYYY
Hope they help a bit
@BolleIsSerious thanks for the advice! Because of you, I mighhht slide in a jojo reference ;)
@@Smekky_E Np :)
As a FNTD player, it's true I wanted to get old man consequences for a LONG time and It'a just gambling and gambling and I played the kronos event bc u could get an Apex (best rarity on game) by only playing without gambling
what do you think about undertale tower defense? i am really curious
The worst thing about ball tower defence is that the studio that made the game is named "cash grab studio" 💀
Duck I have a question for you if you're interested i am in need of some people to help me get my td game popular when it releases. It is a space-themed td game with planets, cutscenes, space towers, etc. If you would like to play it I hope to release it in January!
you should make a video about how your perfect tower defense game would be like
Why would I make a video when I could just make the game
It's a shame most tower defense games aren't financially responsible.
voxel defenders is very good but kids keep making the slop games more popular.
Completely agree honestly these are really really bad there's barely any good tower defenses on roblox now a days if they would just put at least some effort like so towers change when upgrading or be more original and don't make it based off popular trends they would actually be good and of course REMOVE GAMBLING AND TRADING it honestly feels like people are playing these just to gamble or trade with people
TDS, TDX and Doomspire TD basically carrying the genre ( I know TB exist but as a TB player I have to admit the game is dead).
Tdx is kinda revivieng it (it littelary had a tb event)
Im working on my own td game, which will have less p2w and more f2p options for event towers that are from previous events (some p2w not much tho)
…
Its 1% done 💀
The only Gambling tower defense i love is anime adventures
I still miss you
Ball tower defense is actually pretty nice but the rest are just vile
The thing is their is a actually good fnaftd game out there i played it and it was actually fun the only form of gambleing there was is skins which are Purley cosmetic it's really fun.
Fntd doesn’t deserve hate it’s a great game also you act like there aren’t skin crates in tower heroes fntd has some really good music, an arg happened at some point(and more of them to come hopefully), and anything bought with Robux is either not good or can be bought with other means like souls or coins. The game is Grindy but so is tower heroes, and the biggest excuse I see haters use is “u have to grind so much just to get a chance to get something good” like summoning is the only way to get units when there are plenty of other ways. The summon units also have evolutions so that new players have something better to use before they get good unit. Did I forget to mention the enchant system?
First of all skins aren’t needed in tower heroes, second of all FNAF TD is all gambling???? the enchants summon the presents OH AND DONT EVEN MENTION THE APEXES AND THE UNGODLY CHANCES (edit) THE MUSIC SUCKS WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
@@bub_plays we have very different definitions of good music, and after reading your comment, I realized that there’s no point to argue over something pointless, sure it’s gambling slop, but it’s my gambling slop. I like the game cus I can, and if you don’t, that’s fine. We each have our own opinions. Have a good day.
oh ok that’s fine have a good day too.
is skibi defense a slop game? cuz it doesnt involve that much gambling and mostly involves grinding. its quality is also not bad
bro I caught my young nephew playing that fnaf one and I kept trying to stop him bruh, but he wouldnt budge.😭😭
I’m too bored to just grind for 1 tower so I must gamble and get the same units everytime
We need more td games like tdx and tds
Personally I like ball tower defense
I just think it’s kinda funny how low quality it is
But I kinda am addicted 😨
Also I think the whole point of ball tower defense is that it’s low quality
The Only TD Games I Play Are Tower Heroes, BTD6, And Doomspire Defense
If Tower Heroes turns famous then im gonna fucking scream.
tf did tower heroes do its an amazing game😭😭😭
@@dogiifull i meant about screaming jolliful
@eltomfinito.4808 ohhhh
They should do what blooms td did and put the idea into roblox because I love that game
The time has begun... tower defense games are becoming simulators.
Duck adam, you may not like this game, but I reccommend trying base Defence! I myself am a tester for the game and we have some huge plans coming, so maybe you'll like it if you stick around.
DOOMSPIRE DEFENSE IS THE BEST TOWER DEFENSE GAME WTIH 0% GAMBLING AND 100% FUN
It was until pizza place was removed.
whenever i see more talk about these games it just reminds me when i actually had fun with this genre, when i actually had good games to play COUGHOCUGH tower blitz
tower blitz was the only tower defense game that geniunely stuck out to me even after i've grinded a good amount of others that i honestly like alot less (towerhero, flavor frenzy, doomspire(EW)defense, tds and probably more)
the gacha tower defense games that have zero originality are miserable and all but it sucks to know that the "good" tower defense games nowadays are kind of painfully average/below average and have really grindy or just unfun gimmicks and balancing, i could very much go on a long rant about the games i previously mentioned, theres just so much to say about them and their issues
finally someone is addresing these tower defense games with summon mechanics🙏🙏
You forgot to mention the house TD.
Everything is just alright and it's pretty tedious to play (comming from someone who was stupid enough to play the game)
i’m curious to know your opinion on anime adventures, when it was still up.
Basically, the only good tower defense games are tower heroes (not on first place or idk which spot??) TDX, tower defense simulator, and one of the most underrated tower defense games is flavor frenzy, basically having better balacing, a endless mode for the endgame, no rng (expect for the endless mode and skins ofc.) this game isn’t sadly gonna be updated for a long time because, of dandy’s world, when its gonna get updated that dandy’s world is not on beta/alpha i highly recommend to play this because, its like tower heroes but more fun, better replay, way better balancing (ofc) because this game is somewhat forgotten, and cant get the events happening because of THAT developer.
There is still lot of good tower defense games out there, just not that popular, for example i really like pixel gun tower defense, chaos defenders, budget pvz, all three of these games have lots of unique mechanics and really really underrated
DING DING looks like somebody forgot tower blitz
flavor frenzy sucks
@@TigryFromPiggy critical td :
@@notreallol-g4c I respect your opinion, but if u actually didnt try, just give it a try, and give me your honest opinion.