I hate that the bots were added, Since I started a war in the comments let me say why I hate bots, first it’s not fun at all to kill them, second, yes your most likely not gonna win out of 99 other people, BUT THATS THE FUN OF IT.
@@canebatman0 it was more than playable day 1. Only genuinely horrible players thought it was impossible to play the game and before you scream that I’m some sweat, I literally play zero builds exclusively because I suck at builds.
that rush of finally seeing half the lobby hotdrop is already gone, most areas are ghosttowns now. feels so boring to play after bots were added, shame that the devs bent over for redditors complaining
@@GaymerManDude I hadn't played for like a week before OG and I play on console so I was playing ZB squads when OG first came out Got a win and it felt good knowing it was against REAL players
Ok, but if you are a good player, every person in the lobby is a superhero skin. Before SBMM I was having fun, winning some, losing some, I could actually kick back and chill. Now with SBMM every single fight is extremely tryhard. Please, SBMM is making me tiring. It was perfect the first couple of days without it.
AGREED! No bots really brought back the high risk/reward stress of OG fort, the gameplay on launch day felt absolutely magical with full real lobbies, bots coming back just took some of that fun away. Loving OG still, just not the bots.
If ppl want bots go play OFFLINE GAMES!! Dont ruin the OG experience by having easy kills and i hate when those same ppl use that same insult "employed/unemployed" lobbies.
Or here is a better solution if you want to play fortnite with bots go play SAVE THE WORLD, you only play against bots and there is enough strats to one shout every thing so if you want easy bots here is your soultion. (Also just in case I love save the world and I didnt made this comment to dis it, just want to point out the fact that there is a mode were you play a against bots)
I think it’s ok to keep good changes but I dislike how people defend epic it’s ok to like them and pat them on the back but remember ITS A COMPANY no matter what there is no reason for their laziness unless it’s a software issue.
Bots in general bug me because despite being pants on head levels of stupid they weirdly have nightmare level aim if they're at the right distance. I tend to get at least one or two victory royals early or late into seasons and I do it with minimal or zero building due to being a controller player. Been playing this OG in zero build mode and it's a surreal yet interesting experience due to how you have to get creative with your cover. Bots knowing where other players are in a way where they just waddle aimlessly around towards your direction and then find you even if you're hidden is a wild thing to watch happen in real time. was in retail row one match camped up on top of one of the buildings with a ledge and watched a bot kind of run into a wall and then open a door in a house across the street only for it to then lock onto where i was once my camera was on it upon which it started walking straight for me and shooting with what would have probably been a headshot if it weren't for the concrete wall blocking me from them. Seriously it's not even subtle what players are bots lmao. Don't like how some of them trail me when I'm dropping from the battle bus to areas no human players would even go, their pathfinding sometimes seems to glitch when they do that though and they just kind of fly off the map to their death on rare occasions. Having to play the game at low volume I got to say the visual audio thing should not mute the game as there is a distinct type of feedback even a small bit of sound helps keep intact. There's technically something already similar to the visual audio thing in the tiny bar with the blinking lights at the top of the HUD but it's kind of horrible at what it's supposed to be used for when you're in the heat of things. I like being able to tell the general direction I'm being pot shotted by a sniper while unwinding and chatting with friends who might not be playing the same game. The rise of actual cheaters should probably be dealt with instead of nerfing an optional HUD graphic to mute your game entirely. I've been seeing players zip around without running out of stamina and basically locking onto people's heads and actually doing damage through walls a LOT more than usual the last month or so.
I'm happy I could win an OG match of fortnite before bots got added into the gamemode. Every time there was 10 people left, I felt anxious, scared, stayed in a house with a jump pad to escape just in case (I didn't play fortnite since season X became a thing, I started playing fortnite before the shop was even added, so it's obvious I have a skill issue) but now when I queue in, it just feels so empty, so boring and too easy. I can just run around with a pistol, killing bots with stormtrooper level aim. That's why I quit fortnite in the first place
@IronThomas37 bro that's called bad landing strategy like I'm so washed on the game but since chapter 1 having the best landing strat was the easiest thing
@IronThomas37 People just got used to hot drop bcs they play against bots. Back in the says everyone wanted to win. If you we're good you land tilted, pleasant,... If you are really bad you land at the outskirts and camp.
Best I've seen on the OG topic, pretty much took everything right out of my mouth as a Day 1 player. I played it when it just came out after missing like 4 chapters and had barely any complaints, rather had a major trip down memory lane as it really felt like the best of both worlds, new and old, with that same drive to play we had 7 years ago. It's like they did the impossible by taking you back in time. Fortnite has gone through a lot to differentiate itself from it's origins, STW is a clearcut example of that. To have this lightning in a bottle that can be tweaked to perfection for all those who got to experience it before it went the "platform" route is a major power move that has the potential to bring back all and on board with the game once more, Epic would really be missing out to dismiss the feedback from the players who remember it best from that time.
I’ve never seen so many videos talking about problems in Fortnite (bots), maybe they’ll actually fix the problems (bots) and remove what needs to be removed (bots).
The chaos, the dread, the fear of losing, the constant back and forth between the screen and the player count as the circle closes. The unbareable pain of losing knowing you were so close to winning. And after a few matches of the same symptoms circling constantly in your head; there it is, the last player. After a fierce battle, suddenly you see them fall to their knees and everything slows down. Victory win 99 bit the dust, 1 stood among them. That sudden explosion of joy, laughter, excitement comming out at once. You just can't get this same experience with bots. OG fortnite in the first few days brought what fortnite really was back then. A survival game
I played fortnite starting from chap 1 season 3, and I took many breaks over the years, sometimes spanning over entire chapters. My personal take on bots is that they should be an option. Sometimes I enjoy playing fortnite and exploring the map without the desire to win, i just love the feel and the vibes of the game. What happens though, is that I play through games and end up dying in the top 5 every single time because once I actually approach a player, I struggle to fight against them properly since I get no practice. With that option, I can choose to play for real or casually without dealing with ranked sweats.
1:14 that house has a stw level 2 wood wall i think, you cant even edit that wall, i dont know if it was like that back then because i dont remember actually landing there back in the day but it seemed interesting that it has a stw building, btw i really loved when epic added some player buildings as natural spawn for the island, like the house i was talking about
finally someone says the exact same as me. especially about visual sounds! i see no one talking about it and its soooo broken! cant shoot a single shot without getting third fourth and fifth partied
I disagree with almost every video of yours but i hard agree on this one . Most people nowadays are so conditioned to bots they forget that they are just bad and this is coming from a bad player. The fear every fight had back in 2017 was back for the 2 days without bots. Nowadays people just assume the opponent is a bot so the fear isnt there
I feel like this entire OG Gamemode has created a huge unnecessary divide in the community between people who want to keep the bots and people who don't want the bots. As a lot of people have said, I definitely think having the option to choose whether you want bots or not in your lobby is the overall best pick so it can appease both sides. My personal take: I don't mind bots, because I absolutely suck at the game and before they were added (along with the SBMM), I rarely even got Top 50 most of the time because I'd die within the first five minutes to someone edit coursing me or pulling some insane tournament-level building on me. And yes, I know people say "OG Fortnite used to be difficult like that" and I get that. But also, Turbo Build and the fast movement didn't exist in the original Fortnite. And people weren't gods at the game like they are now. The skill gap is MUCH larger than it used to be, making SBMM a requirement in my eyes. Plus, dying in the Top 50 to someone who's good at the game is one thing, but dying immediately upon landing in ten matches back-to-back is just not fun in the slightest, I'd like to at least be able to play the game. Bots I don't think are required, but they're something I personally like to have. I completely understand people hating on bots though, I just hope that instead of removing them completely, Epic just gives us an option to choose them in our lobbies.
I mean he's kinda not wrong, they clearly have an incentive to keep bots in the game. I'm sure it makes them a lot of money and without money this game would have died like 3 or 4 chapters ago. Literally a game played by children primarily, who tend to play games they stand a chance at, and they care more about being "OG" or having "rare skins" like skull trooper and renegade raider which is why they repurpose old skins into new derivative dogshit to make money from said children. Don't know what else you expected
@dmnc_cmnd the majority of the comunity hates bots epic should have the 80 10 10 mindset 10% are new players the other 10% are the sweats and 80% is the casual comunity they should listen to the 80%
I agree with mostly everything you said. The new movement can't just be taken out of the game though. As much as I wish it could be, players have been adapting to this movement for a year or so. If Fortnite made the og movement a thing in the og mode, It'd be like if Black Ops 6 took out omni movement on SPECIFICALLY nuketown.
everything u said is true, we need a full OG version of the game. Im mostly just mad about the new movement and turbo build being a thing. I dont really care about the old models, honestly it doesnt matter that much to me. SBMM is fine as well, however bots are a crazy addition to an ONLINE GAME ._. They are fine when they drop loot in the new chapters and stuff, but why are they trying to mimic people with bots lol
Watching my back, checking around corners, scavenging around empty remains of fights, hiding in shacks, sneaking around to a better position to get a clean revolver headshot. highlights from day 1 of OG, my foray as a mainly zb player back into builds, and things that cannot come from bots. Im a casual, but I have hundreds of hours in this game, why are "medium skill players" designated for 10 - *_90_* bots???
3:33 Finally someone points out the Legendary Burst Assault Rifle, I've seen it in game only once and it tripped me out. I never remembered seeing that back in the day, not sure why someone like me knows more about Fortnite then the developers themselves kind of sad.
I agree with everything you say and you know what I’m kinda in the mood to play red dead redemption 2 and haven’t played it in a while so thanks for reminding me😂
honestly the gamemode was perfect on the first day it actually felt og, then they added bots and sbmm. unfortunately the only way for epic to properly implement sbmm is using bots
One game I go to retail row and 20 people fall there and I have one of the most fun fights I ever had. The very next game I get a lobby full of bots, fall there again and there's only 4 people, 3 of which were bots. OH COME ON
Turbo Build and Chapter 5 movement still have no place in OG Fortnite. The bots are in the least of our concerns when you can’t even play a match because of the FNCS sweats
first vid ive seen of yours, and love it. thank you for calling out bots AND sbmm. sbmm is a problem for me and my friend who used to put 8+ hours a day into the game but now just dont have that kind of time. we just want to relax with our other friends and have fun but no one wants to play with us because our lobbies are so sweaty
bots geniuenly suck i have hated them since my first encounter with them and i still hate them the main reason i hate bots so much is because it doesnt feel rewarding when u win
I was in ur twitch chat so i already said this to u but i want to reiterate how much i agree that bots ruin the experience- i’m not sweaty but i just dont feel anything when i kill bots like its just not exciting
Now I have been playing this game since 2017 and I will say that og mode is still fun. Yes it sucks that ssbm (Super smash bros melee) and bots are in the mode but it’s still fun. My games haven’t been completely flooded with bots and I still fight mostly real players. But I do agree that there should be an option to turn bots on and off . Kinda like how league and overwatch does it. Also I saw some of the complainers just come to the realization that the never liked og fortnite so they really just did that for no reason. Chapter 6 season 1 isn’t even bad either why did they have to ruin things for the people who were actually going to appreciate it.
I REALLY did not want to complain about anything with og fortnite, but as always, epic games keeps giving us reasons to, and good ones at that. Why must they constantly appeal to such a small community then the rest, this is why after OG fortnite ended, almost 70% of it's peak players left, cause they realized how shit it was.
i think they should maybe delete bots in a certain level of sbmm because i dont think its fair for begginers cause this game is so hard, or maybe make so the bots fall only on the edges of the map so people who want to kill players fall more in the center and players who are not that skilled fall on the edges
I got one win before bots were added. I can tell you how I took out every player in that game. Three of whom were probably "better" than me, so I had to trick them/ out play them. I can't even tell you how many times I have won in Chapter 6 much less how I killed any of them. On a completely different note: one thing I really miss, that would make it feel like Chapter 1, that is never getting added, legacy aim assist.
I agree with the visuals symbols. It was only for mobile players, such as myself. And it was useful because some speaker's of the phones may not be loud or youre at a public place dont want noise to be heard from ur phone. I nit pick alot, such as the gun models, some of them still have the chapter 2. And when turbo build was still a thing i knew the game would not not even close to OG
It's just sad because it shows that they really didn't care about making og or even care about it. Theres obviously no pation or effort into this mode and I dont even think they have the same dev team so we will never have og fortnite
How you gonna say there’s no effort built into this mode. They literally re-created the season one map if that is an effort then I don’t know what is.💀
@ yikes man i don’t think you know how this works. They didn’t recreate anything their a company they don’t do things that cost their time. You know how they made the map right? when they make things they don’t delete them. Meaning they literally just got the file for it and just pasted it 😭
I think it's funny a cheater-fest like Fortnite got to propogate the idea that when you see someone cheating, it's just a bug and it's not their fault or when there's clear hints of hacking or cheating or modding that it IS just a bug. And someone when someone's "too good" like shooting impossibly accurately from impossible distances, it MUST be a bot and not a cheater. Somehow cheaters get a free pass to cheat while everyone regurgitates this bullshit about "it's bots, it's bugs!" Nah pretty sure it's cheaters. Not all cheaters make themselves invincible or have aimbot on. But you tell me it's not cheating when someone shoots me with a purple quality AR up close and my overshield is not broken yet but then someone else will shoot me from some random mountain top 1.5 kilometers away with a grey SMG and somehow EVERY bullet hits and it only takes 3 before I got from 50 over shield, 100 shield and 100 health to 3 health left or just flat out dead. "Oh it's a bot" What about buddy that was running next to my car? I was boosting full speed and he was running next to my car, not during the Marvel season with the Black Panther claws. Or what about when I stole someone's helicopter last season and they got so mad they teleported me out of bounds when I was nearly at the center of the map. "Oh it's a bug" Or those several random people I met during the marvel season that would land at the very beginning of the match and have a gun in hand on landing. And while having shit aim, proceeded to unload DOZENS of clips of ammo. AFTER LANDING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MATCH. It's a bug? It's a bot? Lol why are you all so hell-bent on protecting cheaters and this cheater-fest? They're asking for ridiculous amounts of money for digital crap and most of the modes you play are cheap rip offs of actual games that are so much better. The game updates too regularly with these massive absurdly sized updates and there's always massive problems. HOW are they STILL fucking up every update? Getting 30$ for a crappy digital SUV times the amount of people that bought it not enough money for them to actually be bothered to make ONE update where they didn't fuck up the game? EDIT: as I wrote this, I noticed Fortnite is SUDDENLY having "matchmaking issues"...AGAIN...why? What did they break this time and why wasn't it seen before?
When you said you don’t understand why they didn’t copy and paste the hood well that’s because everything was on unreal engine four so when they decided to come out with these new OG seasons, they literally had to re-create the map from square one they couldn’t copy and paste anything and unreal in five just doesn’t allow some of the old graphics and features that unreal engine four had…
From 3:04 to 4:30, all you do is complain about small petty things. Like complaining about shotgun structure damage😂. Come on, you can't tell me that all of these little things like shotgun structure damage and not being able to see through your edit are really affecting your experience that much. People really love to complain about anything. We should be grateful that Epic even gave us an OG mode and that they put the effort in for things like OG weapon sounds and stop complaining about little unimportant things.
what I personally want to be changed in og Fortnite rn: fix the gun models. why go all the way to even change grenade icons if you keep the new designs on bolt and rpg for example? literally makes zero sense. also should just change the hud as well. remove bots bring back the og movement and remove the ability to hear audio if you turn on the sound indicators. because of the sound indicator players get too much information on other players locations. (that they would have not heard otherwise) because of the new movement players move around the map way too quickly and pretty much the major part of players die before the first circle even closes. this kind of goes hand in hand with the audio indicator problem too. in my opinion these things aren't even "stupid nitpicking" as they have big impact on the overall experience. also if epic really calls this the "OG" mode and makes it permanent and separate from the other modes why not just go full OG?
l Like OG, just remove bots and or actually reduce the number or improve them. SBMM is fine but yeah we love loud minorites ruining stuff. Also new movement should be kept only in zero builds as movement is important for that mode and old movement for builds. Things like the hud I also like also would like to see the hexagon storm. But I love OG and they got another month to put everything down and tap in hoping by winter break we get the true og expirence if not i will still have fun. ( Also the other stuff you pointed out like turbo build and see through builds would be nice) Keep speaking for change my dude have a subscribbler
Nah seeing where the enemy comes from is good Not everyone has good a headset People with good headphones can hear people from further away than you can see it on screen So its balanced
All the things you’re saying in this video are extreme nitpicks, bro😭. It just feels like you’re trying to find something to complain about. For example old hud I haven’t seen no one complain about the hud except for you🤷♂️
If you are marketing something older, why not bring 90% of that back? instead they didnt go the extra mile. there is no excusing a billion dollar company
Bro this game is one of the most popular on the planet, you will find lobbies in like 10 seconds without bots, this is not an excuse for their inclusion. @@immortaljodi
I only play bot lobbies I made a whole second account just to be able to get those 98 bots in a lobby, I have way more fun killing bots and winning then I do looting for 15 minutes just to die to some clown who hasn’t gone outside in weeks that’s not fun. Regular Fortnite just isn’t fun, I’d rather have that guarantee that I’m gonna win
Than you don't like Battle Royale games, stop forcing other people to play with bots specifically for your enjoyment. You have Chapter 6 and Reload if you want bots. Let the ones who don't want bots to have their fun in their own gamemode.
i was thinking of just uploading this now and not doing any members first, but you guys are too cool
@@Bennjipiewe just got to learn to deal with the thing epic adds
@JamesSmith-vq5hn that is never a good way to live
@@BennjipieI have learned to just deal with what epic adds at this point I really could not care am just here to have fun not complain
@JamesSmith-vq5hnthat was a back handed complaint, reevaluate your life!
@@cobbwall3185what...
So, I went to dusty depot because I heard gun fire, no joke there were 16 bots fighting each other
"Ohhhhh but they play like the OG players dude!!! This is what you wanted dude!!! You're not allowed to complain dude!!!"
Boo hoo
@@russiankodiak6849 Yeah it is "boo hoo" because the game is FUCKING BORING with more than like 10 bots in a lobby.
I hate that the bots were added, Since I started a war in the comments let me say why I hate bots, first it’s not fun at all to kill them, second, yes your most likely not gonna win out of 99 other people, BUT THATS THE FUN OF IT.
At least the mode is playable and you don't have to play hard, the first few days I couldn't play, I mean it was impossible only to land in a place
@@canebatman0 it was more than playable day 1. Only genuinely horrible players thought it was impossible to play the game and before you scream that I’m some sweat, I literally play zero builds exclusively because I suck at builds.
that rush of finally seeing half the lobby hotdrop is already gone, most areas are ghosttowns now. feels so boring to play after bots were added, shame that the devs bent over for redditors complaining
@@GaymerManDude I hadn't played for like a week before OG and I play on console so I was playing ZB squads when OG first came out
Got a win and it felt good knowing it was against REAL players
I love it
Take out the bots keep the skill based matchmaking.
This approach gets rid of the superhero skins without making 90% of the lobby braindead ai
Exactly, but unfortunately epic games seems to think that SBMM requires bots which is absolutely braindead
Ok, but if you are a good player, every person in the lobby is a superhero skin.
Before SBMM I was having fun, winning some, losing some, I could actually kick back and chill. Now with SBMM every single fight is extremely tryhard. Please, SBMM is making me tiring. It was perfect the first couple of days without it.
No one cares about the bots, remove turbo build and advanced movement first, those two have no place in OG Fortnite
@DatBoiHoboJoe It’s as simple as that, but unfortunately epic games are dumb
sounds like a good idea
AGREED! No bots really brought back the high risk/reward stress of OG fort, the gameplay on launch day felt absolutely magical with full real lobbies, bots coming back just took some of that fun away. Loving OG still, just not the bots.
0:16 We still need the SCAR, the Pistol, and fixes for the Rocket Launcher, Bolt-Action, and Scoped AR.
If ppl want bots go play OFFLINE GAMES!! Dont ruin the OG experience by having easy kills and i hate when those same ppl use that same insult "employed/unemployed" lobbies.
Or here is a better solution if you want to play fortnite with bots go play SAVE THE WORLD, you only play against bots and there is enough strats to one shout every thing so if you want easy bots here is your soultion. (Also just in case I love save the world and I didnt made this comment to dis it, just want to point out the fact that there is a mode were you play a against bots)
Both of these comments sound extremely dumb💀
Exactly Bro the bots don’t do anything get over yourself
Turbo Build and Chapter 5 movement have no place in OG Fornite
a legacy setting to view the old animations for the movement and pickaxe pullout is what i need the most rn
I think it’s ok to keep good changes but I dislike how people defend epic it’s ok to like them and pat them on the back but remember ITS A COMPANY no matter what there is no reason for their laziness unless it’s a software issue.
It’s crazy that me just playing fortnite for the past 7 years makes me apart of gaming history
Bots in general bug me because despite being pants on head levels of stupid they weirdly have nightmare level aim if they're at the right distance. I tend to get at least one or two victory royals early or late into seasons and I do it with minimal or zero building due to being a controller player. Been playing this OG in zero build mode and it's a surreal yet interesting experience due to how you have to get creative with your cover. Bots knowing where other players are in a way where they just waddle aimlessly around towards your direction and then find you even if you're hidden is a wild thing to watch happen in real time. was in retail row one match camped up on top of one of the buildings with a ledge and watched a bot kind of run into a wall and then open a door in a house across the street only for it to then lock onto where i was once my camera was on it upon which it started walking straight for me and shooting with what would have probably been a headshot if it weren't for the concrete wall blocking me from them. Seriously it's not even subtle what players are bots lmao. Don't like how some of them trail me when I'm dropping from the battle bus to areas no human players would even go, their pathfinding sometimes seems to glitch when they do that though and they just kind of fly off the map to their death on rare occasions.
Having to play the game at low volume I got to say the visual audio thing should not mute the game as there is a distinct type of feedback even a small bit of sound helps keep intact. There's technically something already similar to the visual audio thing in the tiny bar with the blinking lights at the top of the HUD but it's kind of horrible at what it's supposed to be used for when you're in the heat of things. I like being able to tell the general direction I'm being pot shotted by a sniper while unwinding and chatting with friends who might not be playing the same game. The rise of actual cheaters should probably be dealt with instead of nerfing an optional HUD graphic to mute your game entirely. I've been seeing players zip around without running out of stamina and basically locking onto people's heads and actually doing damage through walls a LOT more than usual the last month or so.
I'm happy I could win an OG match of fortnite before bots got added into the gamemode. Every time there was 10 people left, I felt anxious, scared, stayed in a house with a jump pad to escape just in case (I didn't play fortnite since season X became a thing, I started playing fortnite before the shop was even added, so it's obvious I have a skill issue) but now when I queue in, it just feels so empty, so boring and too easy. I can just run around with a pistol, killing bots with stormtrooper level aim. That's why I quit fortnite in the first place
We have the same favorite place to land lol
LETS GOOOOO
OG is fun when you don’t instantly get shot down after landing.
Not that it’s happened to me.
@IronThomas37 bro that's called bad landing strategy like I'm so washed on the game but since chapter 1 having the best landing strat was the easiest thing
@IronThomas37 People just got used to hot drop bcs they play against bots. Back in the says everyone wanted to win. If you we're good you land tilted, pleasant,... If you are really bad you land at the outskirts and camp.
Best I've seen on the OG topic, pretty much took everything right out of my mouth as a Day 1 player. I played it when it just came out after missing like 4 chapters and had barely any complaints, rather had a major trip down memory lane as it really felt like the best of both worlds, new and old, with that same drive to play we had 7 years ago. It's like they did the impossible by taking you back in time. Fortnite has gone through a lot to differentiate itself from it's origins, STW is a clearcut example of that. To have this lightning in a bottle that can be tweaked to perfection for all those who got to experience it before it went the "platform" route is a major power move that has the potential to bring back all and on board with the game once more, Epic would really be missing out to dismiss the feedback from the players who remember it best from that time.
I’ve never seen so many videos talking about problems in Fortnite (bots), maybe they’ll actually fix the problems (bots) and remove what needs to be removed (bots).
Subtle foreshadowing
(bots)
The chaos, the dread, the fear of losing, the constant back and forth between the screen and the player count as the circle closes. The unbareable pain of losing knowing you were so close to winning.
And after a few matches of the same symptoms circling constantly in your head; there it is, the last player. After a fierce battle, suddenly you see them fall to their knees and everything slows down.
Victory win
99 bit the dust, 1 stood among them. That sudden explosion of joy, laughter, excitement comming out at once.
You just can't get this same experience with bots. OG fortnite in the first few days brought what fortnite really was back then. A survival game
5:06 I died because I was letting my dog play that’s why. I’m not ass at Fortnite
6:33 hamster was playing
lol
This is a bandwagon i can join with no issue because you are using your brain instead of these idiots complaining about “unemployed” players
Call of duty you can play against bots and hit a nuke but in fortnite there not an option anymore
I played fortnite starting from chap 1 season 3, and I took many breaks over the years, sometimes spanning over entire chapters. My personal take on bots is that they should be an option. Sometimes I enjoy playing fortnite and exploring the map without the desire to win, i just love the feel and the vibes of the game. What happens though, is that I play through games and end up dying in the top 5 every single time because once I actually approach a player, I struggle to fight against them properly since I get no practice. With that option, I can choose to play for real or casually without dealing with ranked sweats.
1:14 that house has a stw level 2 wood wall i think, you cant even edit that wall, i dont know if it was like that back then because i dont remember actually landing there back in the day but it seemed interesting that it has a stw building, btw i really loved when epic added some player buildings as natural spawn for the island, like the house i was talking about
finally someone says the exact same as me. especially about visual sounds! i see no one talking about it and its soooo broken! cant shoot a single shot without getting third fourth and fifth partied
I disagree with almost every video of yours but i hard agree on this one . Most people nowadays are so conditioned to bots they forget that they are just bad and this is coming from a bad player. The fear every fight had back in 2017 was back for the 2 days without bots. Nowadays people just assume the opponent is a bot so the fear isnt there
you want an og experience, then we need bots, because back then we where that bad, in fact we where worst then bots are today.
I feel like this entire OG Gamemode has created a huge unnecessary divide in the community between people who want to keep the bots and people who don't want the bots. As a lot of people have said, I definitely think having the option to choose whether you want bots or not in your lobby is the overall best pick so it can appease both sides.
My personal take: I don't mind bots, because I absolutely suck at the game and before they were added (along with the SBMM), I rarely even got Top 50 most of the time because I'd die within the first five minutes to someone edit coursing me or pulling some insane tournament-level building on me. And yes, I know people say "OG Fortnite used to be difficult like that" and I get that. But also, Turbo Build and the fast movement didn't exist in the original Fortnite. And people weren't gods at the game like they are now. The skill gap is MUCH larger than it used to be, making SBMM a requirement in my eyes. Plus, dying in the Top 50 to someone who's good at the game is one thing, but dying immediately upon landing in ten matches back-to-back is just not fun in the slightest, I'd like to at least be able to play the game. Bots I don't think are required, but they're something I personally like to have. I completely understand people hating on bots though, I just hope that instead of removing them completely, Epic just gives us an option to choose them in our lobbies.
*The entire comunnity getting together to complain about bots*
Sypher pk: bOTs aRe An nEceSSaRy eViL
I mean he's kinda not wrong, they clearly have an incentive to keep bots in the game. I'm sure it makes them a lot of money and without money this game would have died like 3 or 4 chapters ago. Literally a game played by children primarily, who tend to play games they stand a chance at, and they care more about being "OG" or having "rare skins" like skull trooper and renegade raider which is why they repurpose old skins into new derivative dogshit to make money from said children. Don't know what else you expected
@dmnc_cmnd the majority of the comunity hates bots epic should have the 80 10 10 mindset 10% are new players the other 10% are the sweats and 80% is the casual comunity they should listen to the 80%
@@weskertambemjoga8261 Sypher enjoys meatriding epic games
There are varying degrees of deafness, I wouldn't assume visual audio is the way it is because people want to have their cake and eat it too.
I agree with mostly everything you said. The new movement can't just be taken out of the game though. As much as I wish it could be, players have been adapting to this movement for a year or so. If Fortnite made the og movement a thing in the og mode, It'd be like if Black Ops 6 took out omni movement on SPECIFICALLY nuketown.
everything u said is true, we need a full OG version of the game. Im mostly just mad about the new movement and turbo build being a thing. I dont really care about the old models, honestly it doesnt matter that much to me. SBMM is fine as well, however bots are a crazy addition to an ONLINE GAME ._. They are fine when they drop loot in the new chapters and stuff, but why are they trying to mimic people with bots lol
Watching my back, checking around corners, scavenging around empty remains of fights, hiding in shacks, sneaking around to a better position to get a clean revolver headshot.
highlights from day 1 of OG, my foray as a mainly zb player back into builds, and things that cannot come from bots. Im a casual, but I have hundreds of hours in this game, why are "medium skill players" designated for 10 - *_90_* bots???
i hate the bots, they nullify my 20-30 bombs bc its all bots
Thank you Bennjipie for getting me hooked on stw and letting me understand it
3:33 Finally someone points out the Legendary Burst Assault Rifle, I've seen it in game only once and it tripped me out. I never remembered seeing that back in the day, not sure why someone like me knows more about Fortnite then the developers themselves kind of sad.
They just need to make SBMM WITHOUT bots. Keeps it an actual challenge to win without making it free
They can do that once they remove turbo build and chapter 5 movement, those have no place in OG Fortnite
@russiankodiak6849 I could get behind that, but if they implement SBMM correctly then turbo build might be ok. For now though I'd agree
I agree with everything you say and you know what I’m kinda in the mood to play red dead redemption 2 and haven’t played it in a while so thanks for reminding me😂
Same I love OG Fortnite
honestly the gamemode was perfect on the first day it actually felt og, then they added bots and sbmm. unfortunately the only way for epic to properly implement sbmm is using bots
One game I go to retail row and 20 people fall there and I have one of the most fun fights I ever had. The very next game I get a lobby full of bots, fall there again and there's only 4 people, 3 of which were bots. OH COME ON
The OG map bot problem is MASSIVE
I like the game not the players lmao
Turbo Build and Chapter 5 movement still have no place in OG Fortnite. The bots are in the least of our concerns when you can’t even play a match because of the FNCS sweats
first vid ive seen of yours, and love it. thank you for calling out bots AND sbmm. sbmm is a problem for me and my friend who used to put 8+ hours a day into the game but now just dont have that kind of time. we just want to relax with our other friends and have fun but no one wants to play with us because our lobbies are so sweaty
I agree so much with you ngl
I think bots are perfectly fine so the little guys can feel like there good at the game but 90 bots and 10 players is not good
@SunkDaMunk bots are fine as long as they can be disabled
I love og fortnite its alot of fun
Perfect video. You and Layo are speaking straight facts about OG, I hope Epic Games listens to you guys.
Layo is just BASED like that
I love dusty and loot lake I hope nothing bad ever happens to them
I protesting by not playing fortnite remove bots
What is vortrox yapping about
bots geniuenly suck i have hated them since my first encounter with them and i still hate them the main reason i hate bots so much is because it doesnt feel rewarding when u win
I was in ur twitch chat so i already said this to u but i want to reiterate how much i agree that bots ruin the experience- i’m not sweaty but i just dont feel anything when i kill bots like its just not exciting
bots make the game feel lifeless HIGHkey
Now I have been playing this game since 2017 and I will say that og mode is still fun. Yes it sucks that ssbm (Super smash bros melee) and bots are in the mode but it’s still fun. My games haven’t been completely flooded with bots and I still fight mostly real players. But I do agree that there should be an option to turn bots on and off . Kinda like how league and overwatch does it.
Also I saw some of the complainers just come to the realization that the never liked og fortnite so they really just did that for no reason. Chapter 6 season 1 isn’t even bad either why did they have to ruin things for the people who were actually going to appreciate it.
I REALLY did not want to complain about anything with og fortnite, but as always, epic games keeps giving us reasons to, and good ones at that. Why must they constantly appeal to such a small community then the rest, this is why after OG fortnite ended, almost 70% of it's peak players left, cause they realized how shit it was.
underrated video af. u earned a sub
The bots are out of control.
I knew about the purple burst, but the gold one is hilarious, did epic think to check the lootpool from season 1? also still no purple tac fsr
in season 1 the max rarity was blue for the burst later on the added the purple and gold burst but it had a different model
@fons2623 ik about the famas, but i am not happy about the gold variant in s1, its like adding the gold pump in s3
i think they should maybe delete bots in a certain level of sbmm because i dont think its fair for begginers cause this game is so hard, or maybe make so the bots fall only on the edges of the map so people who want to kill players fall more in the center and players who are not that skilled fall on the edges
people who fall on edges will one hour find players when the storm closes so they will actually improve
I got one win before bots were added. I can tell you how I took out every player in that game. Three of whom were probably "better" than me, so I had to trick them/ out play them. I can't even tell you how many times I have won in Chapter 6 much less how I killed any of them. On a completely different note: one thing I really miss, that would make it feel like Chapter 1, that is never getting added, legacy aim assist.
I agree with the visuals symbols. It was only for mobile players, such as myself. And it was useful because some speaker's of the phones may not be loud or youre at a public place dont want noise to be heard from ur phone. I nit pick alot, such as the gun models, some of them still have the chapter 2. And when turbo build was still a thing i knew the game would not not even close to OG
Most based Fortnite TH-camr fr. Thank you! ❤
Mfs be like “bE gRaTeFuL ThAt tHe oG MaP iS BaCk!”
We have creative 2.0 lil bro, and bots can’t be in creative
You can turn off the visual indicators, I have mine off
but that doesnt mean others have it off, its a competitive advantage
It's just sad because it shows that they really didn't care about making og or even care about it. Theres obviously no pation or effort into this mode and I dont even think they have the same dev team so we will never have og fortnite
How you gonna say there’s no effort built into this mode. They literally re-created the season one map if that is an effort then I don’t know what is.💀
@ yikes man i don’t think you know how this works. They didn’t recreate anything their a company they don’t do things that cost their time. You know how they made the map right? when they make things they don’t delete them. Meaning they literally just got the file for it and just pasted it 😭
Tbh most of your complaints are about quality of life changes like mantlling and moving while healing are good with O.G
Oh so members get to see the videos before there realized. I was wondering how the comments were 1 day old and the video was 9 seconds old
blud makes a video and repeats the things that literally everyone agrees on 😹
I agree I am a causal but I hate bots it doesn’t have any satisfaction to kill a player when they are not even real
I think it's funny a cheater-fest like Fortnite got to propogate the idea that when you see someone cheating, it's just a bug and it's not their fault or when there's clear hints of hacking or cheating or modding that it IS just a bug. And someone when someone's "too good" like shooting impossibly accurately from impossible distances, it MUST be a bot and not a cheater. Somehow cheaters get a free pass to cheat while everyone regurgitates this bullshit about "it's bots, it's bugs!" Nah pretty sure it's cheaters. Not all cheaters make themselves invincible or have aimbot on.
But you tell me it's not cheating when someone shoots me with a purple quality AR up close and my overshield is not broken yet but then someone else will shoot me from some random mountain top 1.5 kilometers away with a grey SMG and somehow EVERY bullet hits and it only takes 3 before I got from 50 over shield, 100 shield and 100 health to 3 health left or just flat out dead. "Oh it's a bot"
What about buddy that was running next to my car? I was boosting full speed and he was running next to my car, not during the Marvel season with the Black Panther claws.
Or what about when I stole someone's helicopter last season and they got so mad they teleported me out of bounds when I was nearly at the center of the map. "Oh it's a bug"
Or those several random people I met during the marvel season that would land at the very beginning of the match and have a gun in hand on landing. And while having shit aim, proceeded to unload DOZENS of clips of ammo. AFTER LANDING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MATCH. It's a bug? It's a bot? Lol why are you all so hell-bent on protecting cheaters and this cheater-fest? They're asking for ridiculous amounts of money for digital crap and most of the modes you play are cheap rip offs of actual games that are so much better.
The game updates too regularly with these massive absurdly sized updates and there's always massive problems. HOW are they STILL fucking up every update? Getting 30$ for a crappy digital SUV times the amount of people that bought it not enough money for them to actually be bothered to make ONE update where they didn't fuck up the game?
EDIT: as I wrote this, I noticed Fortnite is SUDDENLY having "matchmaking issues"...AGAIN...why? What did they break this time and why wasn't it seen before?
W video w takes w creator
90 bots is insane
HEY PUT SOME RESPECT ON RDR2 "I HAVE A GOD DAMN PLAN"
hear me out... og fall damage
YO YOUR COOKING ON VIDEOS
Great
When you said you don’t understand why they didn’t copy and paste the hood well that’s because everything was on unreal engine four so when they decided to come out with these new OG seasons, they literally had to re-create the map from square one they couldn’t copy and paste anything and unreal in five just doesn’t allow some of the old graphics and features that unreal engine four had…
*HUD
i was agreeing with you until i saw you doing "The Viper" at the end and all your credibility was defenestrated
mid emote
i just need bots removed and guns not OG
From 3:04 to 4:30, all you do is complain about small petty things. Like complaining about shotgun structure damage😂. Come on, you can't tell me that all of these little things like shotgun structure damage and not being able to see through your edit are really affecting your experience that much. People really love to complain about anything. We should be grateful that Epic even gave us an OG mode and that they put the effort in for things like OG weapon sounds and stop complaining about little unimportant things.
what I personally want to be changed in og Fortnite rn:
fix the gun models. why go all the way to even change grenade icons if you keep the new designs on bolt and rpg for example? literally makes zero sense. also should just change the hud as well.
remove bots
bring back the og movement and remove the ability to hear audio if you turn on the sound indicators. because of the sound indicator players get too much information on other players locations. (that they would have not heard otherwise)
because of the new movement players move around the map way too quickly and pretty much the major part of players die before the first circle even closes. this kind of goes hand in hand with the audio indicator problem too.
in my opinion these things aren't even "stupid nitpicking" as they have big impact on the overall experience. also if epic really calls this the "OG" mode and makes it permanent and separate from the other modes why not just go full OG?
l Like OG, just remove bots and or actually reduce the number or improve them. SBMM is fine but yeah we love loud minorites ruining stuff. Also new movement should be kept only in zero builds as movement is important for that mode and old movement for builds. Things like the hud I also like also would like to see the hexagon storm. But I love OG and they got another month to put everything down and tap in hoping by winter break we get the true og expirence if not i will still have fun. ( Also the other stuff you pointed out like turbo build and see through builds would be nice) Keep speaking for change my dude have a subscribbler
I hate when enemy’s have shields and you don’t and that’s the reason I lose all lot of my games
The bots make the game playable
and also mind numbly boring
and really boring
Skill issue
@@Bennjipie forgive me for having a life. You sweats ruined the game
Nah seeing where the enemy comes from is good
Not everyone has good a headset
People with good headphones can hear people from further away than you can see it on screen
So its balanced
i already got 24 wins its easy im not even that good
I like playing against bots because then I win more as a casual I like to win better than just loose at top 30.
the whole point of a battle royale is that it is difficult and that you lose a lot and sometimes win bots are just dumb.
All the things you’re saying in this video are extreme nitpicks, bro😭. It just feels like you’re trying to find something to complain about. For example old hud I haven’t seen no one complain about the hud except for you🤷♂️
If you are marketing something older, why not bring 90% of that back? instead they didnt go the extra mile. there is no excusing a billion dollar company
@ so you’re basically saying you would want things like old movement back💀
@@CSY_2 thats not what he said
GET OUT
Womp womp always something to complain about
well it is kinda boring fighting against brain dead bots 99 percent of the time lol. makes the game too easy and not rewarding
didnt watch the video. wrong
Let’s settle this, which one makes the gameplay worse:
FNCS Tryhards 🥵 or Bots 🤖?
FNCS players get solved with sbmm but bots are forced in any skill bracket
@@russiankodiak6849 bots?
Bots are necessary for lobbies of 100 people that don't take 30 mins to fill..\
when sbmm and bots were removed, i was getting in games within 10 seconds, now with bots and sbmm it takes well over a minute sometimes
@@Bennjipie yeah bc the mode had a million players when it came out.
@@immortaljodi nah dude even without bots it would still load quickly
Bro this game is one of the most popular on the planet, you will find lobbies in like 10 seconds without bots, this is not an excuse for their inclusion. @@immortaljodi
If you don't like how it is don't play the game
that does not fix this issues within it. terrible comeback
awful comment holy
Are you 5?
I only play bot lobbies I made a whole second account just to be able to get those 98 bots in a lobby, I have way more fun killing bots and winning then I do looting for 15 minutes just to die to some clown who hasn’t gone outside in weeks that’s not fun. Regular Fortnite just isn’t fun, I’d rather have that guarantee that I’m gonna win
Than you don't like Battle Royale games, stop forcing other people to play with bots specifically for your enjoyment. You have Chapter 6 and Reload if you want bots. Let the ones who don't want bots to have their fun in their own gamemode.