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Approaching The Scene 054: The Best Adventure Photo Backpack, Plus Tripods in Surf
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2019
- I want to share my recent research into adventure photo backpacks. (Links are below) As a longtime backpacker, photo backpacks have always perplexed me. We photographers carry a lot of weight on trips, yet so few brands design versatile packs that protect our backs from that load. In this video, I'll go over why I still think F-stop is making the best quality photo backpacks out there. I also found a cool Osprey ski pack that crosses over well to show you. Finally I take a question about keeping your tripod stable in the surf for longer exposures. We're going to talk spikes.
Disclaimer, while I'm not getting paid for this video, I did choose to become an ambassador for F-stop during the process of choosing a new pack.
00:50 The Best Adventure Photo Backpack
20:38 Tripods in the surf
F-Stop Tilopa with Large ICU: amzn.to/2YF0qOt
F-Stop Sukha with X-Large ICU: amzn.to/2yuty0r
Osprey Kamber 42 Mens' Pack: amzn.to/2Mueat0
Osprey Kresta 40 Womens' Pack: amzn.to/31aPU3u
F-Stop Medium Slope ICU: amzn.to/2GTVrUr
F-Stop Large Accessory Pouch: amzn.to/2LVc5Ho
F-Stop Large Tripod Bag: amzn.to/2YwBsRy
F-Stop Pack Cover: amzn.to/2LTMQ8j
Three Legged Thing Stiletoz Spike 3-pack: amzn.to/2Kdzn9n
Three Legged Thing Clawz: amzn.to/2T0I3CC
Links to all my gear: www.hudsonhenr...
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Thanks to everyone for the great questions you are sending in. Keep them coming either in the comments below or by emailing me directly.
FINALLY: a review from a photographer that actually backpacks. Thank you for this in depth review.
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Chris Burkard introduced me to f-stop gear and I’ve never looked back. Love my Tilopa and use the padded accessory pouches for tons of things from chargers to one for an Osmo Pocket, GoPro, and all the chargers, mini DJI tripod, etc. for those action cameras. I find organizing by ICU very handy - one dedicated to the Z6, Ninja V, microphone, ND filters, etc., for video; one for the Z7 and lenses; one for D850 and lenses, etc. Congrats on the ambassador status!
Your intro into the problem of finding a backpack that checks all those boxes was on point. I'm amazed there are not many solutions out there for bigger camera loads, with actual hip load support
See my other comment: NYA-EVO ;-)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Nya Evo look great. I will share my case:
Ordered a Vanguard VEO 53 (it's 45L backpack with the most spacious ICU compartment which I needed so much, yet the hip belt is positioned too high up and it's as long to be able to "hug" your hips, so your shoulders do all the heavy lifting, which is bad for long commutes ( I weighed 14kg of total weight I carry including the backpack(!)
So I came up with an idea to replace the hip belt with the Osprey bioform cm hip belt from my Osprey Xenith 88 backpack. I was able to fit it through the loophole of the Vanguard and it does help rest some weight on my hips, just that:
1. The Osprey velcro on the hip belt, attaching it to the backpack"s body- is on the opposite side, meanjng I will need to take that hip belt for someone to saw/glue a velcro om the other side to be able
2. It makes the Vanguard backpack look bulkier, so I worry it won't make it to be a carry on.
Therefore, if you know about other Osprey belts (Large sized) that may still do the job and support me via my hips, yet be more compact than the Bioform CM model- then please lemme know 🔥
Bottom line, it's possible to modify our backpacks with hiking gear's hip belts
Hudson,
Great video. Did a lot of research into this myself this spring. Was leaning towards the Osprey Kamber. Ended up getting the Deuter Rise 34 which is similar to the Osprey, but $40 cheaper. Bought through Moosejaw. Added an Fstop ICU and am very happy.
Ha. I saw that, but it's a bit small for ski trips with gear for me. :) thanks!
Similar to your Gregory, I have a 70L Osprey, to have an accessible camera, I strap my 500mm f/4 on to the side with the external gear straps. That gives you easy access to the camera in a pack that you can spend multiple days on the trail with.
You can tell this guy backpacks and shoots a lot. He is completely right about uncomfortable flat packs. I had on older Osprey Kode, it fit great but the rear zipper snagged a lot. I see Osprey fixed that with their new zipper but i would love to see water bottle pockets because I don't like hydration bladders.
And my search for a backpack has ended. Thanks for all the great info. The Osprey plus ICU & tripod bag makes for a good combo. Hmmm but that blue Fstop bag you showed can fit the large ICU. Awe man, the search is still on, headed to the Fstop website 😂.
Amateur photographer here. I live in the mountains of East TN and have been trying to find a bag to use when I get out in the mountains. I wanted something that would carry both my Sony bodies, my 150-600, my 70-200, as well as all the accessories. A friend from work recommended this video and I've gotta say that this line looks like it would be perfect for my needs! Thanks for the awesome review!
Great video Hudson! As always, well produced and very informative. It's very interesting to listen some thoughts about photography gears in an honest and practical way. Great job man! Cheers :)
This video was hugely helpful in sealing the deal for me on the F-Stop Tilopa which I'll be purchasing soon. I was going around and around on what I was going to replace my dedicated LowePro camera backpacks with (way too heavy when empty) and now I feel confident that the Tilopa would be the right choice for my 5x7 large format film camera and probably still have room for a Nikon D850 up top. The tip on protecting the spike and claws on tripod feet with the rock bag is also a big win. Thanks.
wati a sec... You should really look at my later videos. I've ditched F-stop for NYA EVO's far superior design. NYA's dude helped design the Tilopa for Druid at F-stop, but he's doing much better work now on his own brand. :-) th-cam.com/video/W3KA7Rl46Xg/w-d-xo.html
Best backpack video I've come across -- gets right to the point on the stuff that matters, very little fluff. I recently picked-up an f-stop Shinn (and was evaluating a Shimoda X70) and my Google searches resulted in this video being promoted to the head of my recommended playlist. Still, loved your insights and very informative. Also, it's funny how one's other passions can lead the to photography. Motorsports reignited my passion for photography about 10 years ago, because nobody seems to know how to shoot a car. I'm Seattle area so will need to join one of your workshops this year (COVID situation permitting). Thanks, and be safe!
This guy knows what’s he talking about! Can’t stand when photographs say they going outdoors while they’re just out in the woods. Backpacking and hiking is hours of walking and sleeping in shelters. Cheers mate!
Thanks. I've got a new even better photo pack brand. NYA-EVO Check out my latest video.
Ditto Ray's comment below. Really appreciate the details you discussed on proper weight on the hips and the flexibility of features you found. I'm getting back into this at 64 and my back hurts watching some of these landscape videos with guys carrying insane amounts of weight with a two shoulder strap bag. I have a larger Osprey Kestrel for multi-day packs so will probably get the Lotus or similar 32L pack for day trips - and then use the ICU. Like the fact you also talked about hydration. Thanks!
You bet Gerry. Glad to help out.
Another great presentation Sir... I have been researching; ...part of the fun of purchasing... and came to the same conclusion about the F-Stop system.
Great video! At the moment i don´t have the money to invest in the full F-stop system but your recomendation of the osprey Kamber+ Fstop medium ICU looks like it with work perfectly for me at least for now. Thanks a lot, greetiings from an aspiring adventure photographer from México
THANK YOU...This is what I call a GREAT Review, specific details and experience in usage nicely shared :) Thanks mate ;)
Great video, I've had an Ajna 40 litres for nearly 2 years, I've carried up to 20kgs in it, all day long, no problem. It's a great backpack.
yeah to the ICU camera blocks being used in a backpacking pack. The other dedicated camera packs aren't good for much more than holding gear safe in the car or a short hike away from the car. A real backpacking pack is fit to your torso and waist size so it distributes the weight evenly over your hips and only weighs down your shoulders with about 20% of the weight. The camera bags get loaded down and you feel every pound of it. with a real pack the thing could be fully loaded and it feels like a pillow on your back (when it fits correctly).
The point about the tripod legs - normally I start extending top down, so the widest diameter first - to extend them thinnest first in sand/dirt terrain was so logical and obvious that I never thought about it. Excellent. I still regret not having bought a Gitzo Oceanic when it was on sales discount for half the price in Italy before they stopped production of the Oceanic line. Sea water and sand proof was the claim.
Even with the Oceanic, I think you need to be careful and do maintenance after saltwater. :-)
This is what I've been looking for, thank you.
Finally, an actually helpful video on backpacks! Thank you so much for this
Be sure to see my updated thoughts now that NYA-EVO is making packs I like even more... . th-cam.com/video/W3KA7Rl46Xg/w-d-xo.html
Leaning towards Osprey Aether for hikes and a stratos atm! I will take a look! Thanks! 😄
Aether for multiway, and stratos for the day ones*
I have the new NYA-EVO Fjord 60-C ECONYL. It doesn't have the disadvantages of an f-stop. (Things fall through from above, no detachable waistbelt, side pockets, etc.)
Unfortunately expensive, but comfortable and very good.
Great video Hudson, and thanks for addressing the tripod in surf issue! Too many times we are just playing by the “rules” we’ve so engrained into our routine. That’s what I did in the surf. I wasn’t thinking about the sand. After an hour of rinsing my tripod in the hotel shower with no water pressure, I’m a believer of the rule: when in surf, tiny legs first! I’ll check out those F-stop bags too.
Such a good review, and good informative info about the tripod. I just bought a Tilopa backpack yesterday, also with the medium slope ICU. This video that popped up today is good reassurance that I'm probably going to be happy with the Fstop bag. My current bag is strictly a camera bag with no room for anything else and really isn't made for any kind of long walks.
Interesting thing, I wasn't paying attention between the previous video that I was watching to when this video started, but when I heard your voice, I thought it was a Michael Shainblum video. You sound a lot like him.
Fast becoming my favorite TH-cam photography vlogs..keep it up man, love it.
Have you checked out the Ortlieb Atract 35 or 45...?
I bought a Gregory Zulu 40 which fits the Slope Medium ICU. There's still lots of room above the ICU.
Great video! Thank You! Love my f-stop backs and bags!
I would be interested if the Shimoda Core Units fit into the Tilopa without any problems.
I have the Shimoda Explore V2 and find it terrible.
But I think the core unit is really good. They are just a little different from what we usually know. Every manufacturer always uses the same partitions, but Shimoda is different.
Very thin and yet stable. I compared the dimensions on the website and it should actually fit.
I've got an exciting bag update coming in a few weeks. I'd hang on before buying something for just a bit. If you need to move now, then yes the large pro icu fits the tilopa, but with almost no space for other gear. I have some cool bag news coming soon. You can email me for more on all that,
I’ve only become serious with photography in the last 5 years (long story). I wish I could go back with my todays knowledge ‼️
I’m following you and find that each video you produce (and even this 2 year old one) has amazing help / advice. I’m using the 21 L WANDRD bag and have been looking for extra strapping ~ and you told me their name so just ordered a couple. Really informative > thank you
Hey James! Great to hear. Thanks for the kind words. I feel the same about so many places I visited in the past. That's growth an artist. Let's hope we feel the same ten years from now about the places we were this year. :)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I’m a a Scotsman and now live in the Scottish Highlands (for about 4yrs). I’ve walking tracks into remote areas, so decent back pack for camera, drone is necessary for me. Look forwards to more from you 🥾
Don't buy a new pack quite yet James. I'm testing something new and very cool and will put the word out soon. You can email me if you're in a hurry. BTW: I've got Scottish ansestors on both sides. My grandmother was a Campbell whose parents came from the Isle of Skye. I need to get over there and hike too sometime.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto if you come over maybe get in touch? I have started a small TH-cam channel James’ss (icon red coffee mug). The recent videos you can see some of the majestic vistas that not many people even know they are there.
I’m going to stick with the WANDRD bag for a while but eventually I’ll pos need to renew do look forward’s to you “new” bag review
Thanks for the reviews! Especially the adventure pack. My search for the 'right bag' has been for a backpack first that is then designed for camera gear and sounds like F-Stop is the one. Longer trips I pack camera gear as just more gear in the hiking bag. Have to figure out now if it'll hold my LONG (180-400 f 4) and pro DSLR body. AND, you might want to check out Tragopan's tripod waders though the stilettos would then not be useable; although I'm thinking even if you punch through the bottom of the wader great splash and sand protection would remain for the knuckles!
Great Video, Thanks! I have the same F-Stop Navin camera pouch and is really nice. My next backpack will be the Tilopa...
Hey Hudson! Have you ever used the osprey bag in the summer/fall/spring seasons? If so how did it wear as a "pack"? Was it much sweatier or clammy than the f-stop bag?
It's more comfortable. The suspension is a bit more backpacker focused than photographer focused. They're both good, but the Osprey is more comfy.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto thanks I appreciate it!
Splendid review, keep up the good work.
I hate carrying baggage. I recently got a lower pro bag just about big enough for my Z7 and few s lenses. The bag from f-stop looks very cool but i think its too hard core for me. Nice review btw.
Thanks Zaf. Yeah, it's less important if you aren't hauling a ton of weight a long distance. :-)
This was a very helpful video. Thank you!
I'd have you check this more recent video though. :) th-cam.com/video/W3KA7Rl46Xg/w-d-xo.html
I really enjoyed your video about F Stop ICU. This has been very helpful. I'm looking to get an Anja but I'm not sure if I should look for the first version which is 40 liters or the second version which is 37 liters. Are there enough improvements from the first version to the second version to buy the latest one?
Thanks
This video is many many years old. I ditched F-stop when I discovered NYA-EVO. Their designer worked at Deuter before helping F-stop with many of thier best designs, then struck out on his own. He's a fabulous guy too. Check out the bags at my site. www.hudsonhenry.com PS: the 60C compresses to about 44 and is 100% airline carryon compliant.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto thanks. They like well made packs.
Very helpful information! Thank you!
Man I wish I was you, lol. Actually what I mean is I wish I had had the experience you have. Coming from the UK it's really unlikely, as we actually don't have "wildernesss" like you have in the US. I'm really grateful that you take the time and are happy to share your experiences with the rest of us. Thank you it is appreciated. Cheers.
Hahaha, come up to Scotland if you want some wilderness 😊
Hi Hudson! I also own some F-Stop bags (Tilopa BC, Lotus, Loka). I always have the problem, that some small pieces fall behind the ICU, especially from the top-compartment, but smaller items like lenscaps or such work themself to the back of the ICU even from inside of the ICU (no I never close the ICU with the zipper).
Have you found a solution for that - other than closing the ICU-zipper which ist annoying in use?
Have you worked out, what's the use of the molle-straps on the inside of the back-compartment? Everything thats attached there will press against my camera gear, and I havent found a really slim molle bag (for filters or such) that would fit.
Thanks from Germany
Ralph
Hi Ralph The Molle straps on the inside of the back panel are (in my opinon for attaching a camera holster when you don't have an ICU so it stays right where you need it instead of getting rolled into other loose gear in the bag. I don't use them in conjunction with the ICU.
To me having space behind the ICU is a benefit. I keep my hydration bladder in the sleeve back there and some light modifiers as well as my advanced pano rails, a warn hat and gloves. I've never had a lens cap get back there, but I keep those in a pocket if not on the lens.
Excellent and informative....Thanks Hudson
If I buy the Shinn or Sukha... What icu should I get if I still need to fit a mid-level tent, sleep system, etc for backpacking for 3 to 4 days? Thanks 😊
Nice review. The hip belt is not removable though. Back looks cool.
I just got the fstop ajna almost perfect bag but they made the straps and hip belt too thin i read the tilopa uses thicker straps why they didnt do this on the 40l ajna makes no sense .
Great video Hudson. You showed one set of tripod "feet" that looked like flat rubber bottoms which you said you used in your studio. Could you please provide a link to those as well as they look like something I could use. Many thanks.
You bet. Here are my faves: bhpho.to/2ZBiZEy
Great video, thanks for the information! I have a Z6 with a 24-70 and 70-200 2.8 that I take everywhere and recently acquired a 200-500. Been looking for a bigger bag that I can take the beast mounted on the Z6 along with all my other glass when I go out of town and also use it when I'm not carrying the 200-500. I've looked at Osprey and Gregory packs with icu's and f-stop, atlas and many more. Any suggestions?
I've looked at a lot of camera backpacks in the last year and f stop seems to be the only one that was designed by backpackers.
If you carry a bunch of gear for 14 miles into the wilderness you understand the necessity for good boots and backpacks. One trip will teach you why. :) Love my F stop 70L Sukha and Danner Boots.
Thanks for your review!! I'm thinking about the tilopa for a long now. And for my autumn trip to Utah/Arizona i'll definitely buy it. Your points of thoughts are exactly the same that i have. The additional room for hiking equipment, the accessories, the variety of icu's. Have you always checked your Tilopa in for flights? Or do you think it's possible to take it as hand luggage? Maybe when i compress the size with the straps?
Heck I've carried the Sukha on flights all over the US and Europe. The Tilopa is definitely carry on. :) you'll love it. If you buy from Amazon, please consider the links in my description. Thanks!
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks! I appreciate your fast answer! I've tried your link, but Amazon US sadly don't ship to Germany, where i live. Otherwise i would support you, because i like your channel very much!!
Good stuff Hudson!
Thanks for all of the info, esp how you use everything and travel with it! Do you have a link for that ThinkTank bag?
You bet. I have the very poorly named Streetwalker version. Here's a link to it: amzn.to/2YADRuB
I might buy the Airport International next time isntead: amzn.to/2YH72fo
I just don't use the backpack straps much. :-)
Have you used or looked at the MindShift BackLight bags? I am currently in the market for an adventure photo bag(and yes I am in the market for a bunch of different things you have videos on right now).. right now I use a Thinktank photo block in an Osprey Manta 36L and it works ok but accessibility to the gear is always a hassle cause its a classic top loading back pack (I wish I'd seen the Kamber when I was looking for the Osprey bag). And for bigger rigs like when I take out the star tracker and/or a second body it doesn't have enough room. I was most of the way settled on getting the Backlight Elite 45L before seeing this video. Now I'm not sure what would be better that or one of these F-Stops
I have a friend that just ditched his for a Tilopa. They make quality bags, but like so many camera bag companies, their harnesses are just not outdoor backpacking pack inspired. With the weight you carry, you want an outdoor backpacker inspired harness. F-stop does that better than the rest.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Just sent you an email... I am looking specifically at the Backlite Elite 45L. It at least appears that they completely upped the ante on the 45L harness
I had the ajna bag, and it did not fit me at all.. No matter what i did, it sit right on my tail bone and i am the thinner build. I did keep the large ICU. looking at the Atlas maybe for my next bag
Bummer. Their bags fit me perfectly. But just like a backpacking pack, you have to find the right fit for you.
Appreciate the review; i'm struggling between the x50 shimoda and f stop tilopa
Not a fan of the shimoda internal "padding" or the way the shoulder straps attach (weak point).
Well your not a great F Stop ambassador😂. I was searching for info on F-Stop packs and found this video and now I am going to use your Amazon affiliate link to buy the Asprey Kamber. I already have a fstop large ICU and it looks like it will fit inside the Asprey and the Asprey looks like it has all the features that I need at half the cost of the F-Stop. I was just kidding about you not being a good ambassador F-Stop looks to have great gear, but the Asprey is more in my budget.
Jason
The medium slope or just medium will fit better. ;)
Great video mate I use A JJs Bergen it works fantastic, but like yourself I have problems with finding the right pack, I also use osprey 105 but I like my jjs bergen for the pockets on the outside,
But the problem I find is caring camping gear and camera gear , as most dedicated camera packs just carry camera gear and maybe a water bladder.
Check out this much more recent video: th-cam.com/video/W3KA7Rl46Xg/w-d-xo.html
That's the best bag I've ever had for photography. If I have to carry too much non photo gear, then I'm Gregory all the way.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto my girlfriend gets pist off with me she hates the fact I got more bags then her ! Here’s a good question for you the Nikon Z 70-200 mm F2.8 Is it worth buying or are the older models ok with the FTZ ? I remember watching one of your reviews on the older 70-200
The 70-200 S is just a tiny bit better than the FL ED which was a HUGE upgrade from the VRII. I'm ditching mine for the amazing 100-400 S though. It's just so versatile for what I do.
Thanks for taking the time to reply and keep the channel going it’s great fella , anyways I must dash I got pigs to shear 😉 be safe hopefully chat again soon
I thought you used the pelican air as a carry-on 'bag' for expensive camera gear?
Ha yeah and I use NYA-EVO packs now too. This video is from over 3 years ago. :)
Enjoyable and informative tut, thank you. I am surprised you didn't mention Atlas Athlete or Adventure
Thanks. I think atlas does away with part of the biggest strength of the F-stop and Shimoda bags. I love that I can choose a tiny protective insert if I'm doing a big climb with lots of gear like rope, protection, crampons, food, stove, sleeping bag, etc and a small camera setup or a huge protective insert if I'm doing a trip with short hikes from the car, 2 bodies and 8 lenses. I absolutely want removable camera inserts in mulitple sizes to be flexible and I certainly don't want anything sewn in. Padded compartments wear and need replacement long before a good pack. I also like to put lightweight stuff to the sides, beneath and behind the padded camera inserts. They just are not as flexible or well thought out to me.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Appreciate your response, yes backpack bags do come down to users intended use. I think most do look for a bag that can be used for multi purposes, as you noted. As a side note, I enjoyed your tuts on the use of fluid heads vs ball heads. BTW I use a Big 3541xls gitzo similar to yours ... Presently now looking for a travel tripod, on my radar is the Leofoto LS line, you may want to look into them, they are 10x and great price point. Very comparable to Gitzo & RRS, and that's saying something. Also 2 backpacks, one as a combo to hold lots of camera gear & I can travel with, ( still haven't made my decision, still in the research mode) and the other one like your Osprey as a day pack. Does the Osprey have capability for water bottle and tripod.. BTW as an ambassador for F stop do you offer a discount code? Overall I find your channel very honest, informative & helpful >>> thanks Hudson
Great video! I like that you came at this review from a backpackers perspective. Have you checked out the Mindshift Backlight Elite 45L yet? I’d love to see your thoughts on that bag. It seems pretty comparable to the Tilopa with a few additional features as well.
Mindshift makes good camera bags. They're less great at the harnesses and true backcountry versatility than F stop in my opinion. I haven't tried that exact bag though. I'd suggest trying it and the F stop and weighting them down equally for a half hour. Send the lies comfy one back. :)
That's why the big LowePro backpacks are superb - because they have adjustable back length so that the weight can be transferred to the hips. In that regard IMHO they are superior to the not fully adjustable ones you showed...
The Powder is the nicest pack I've seen them make. It's a bit less versatile for urban style trips (it doesnt' compress as nicely lightly loaded) and sadly, I can't make it's harness nearly as comfortable as the Osprey, Gregory or F-stop packs I showed in this vid... :-( Others may find it different. F-stop's mens packs fit me perfectly. They have smaller torso length packs targeted to women. Adjustable is great and Lowepro did it the right way instead of putting tremendous strain on small sewn loops as I see so many doing now. I just don't find the harness itself comfortable loaded.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I am talking about the LowePro Trekker 450 and 600 - they have a completely detachable back which then can be adjusted to your back length. I am a little (well considerable) overweight and have a slipped disc since I tried to play badminton on club level some 30 odd years ago - and thus any strain on my shoulders and back is horrendous. I tried the F-stops in shop (weighted down to my normal carrying load of 10--15kg) and they were uncomfortable and nigh on impossible to make them put the load on my hips instead of the shoulders.
So sorry about your back. That's awful. Ah different needs those packs serve. They're not modular in any way for the needs I have of dividing different sized photo cells from non camera equipment in an adventure pack. There's no way to efficiently carry things I need aside from cameras gear. I require a lot more flexibility.
It's funny how different folks find different packs fit well or not. I abhore that harness system. I actually goodwilled a 450 I was given not long ago. I couldn't get it to feel remotely comfortable on my frame. It felt tortuous. That's the joy of life though. Different things fit and suit different folks. I'd really have you look at that osprey kamber I mentioned with a medium icu. Try one at rei. It's harness is incredible.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto That pack is woefully too small I need to pack 2 camera bodies, 2 macro lenses, 2 wide angle lenses, at least 2 telephoto lenses (400mm prime lens and 70-200mm/100-400mm zoom), teleconverters, filters, tripod rings - because I carry my wife's equipment as well...
Edit: As I said, I tried the appropriate big f-stop ones and they were horrible in their inability to be adjusted, either the back length is correct for you (then they are good) but if it doesn't then it's probably better to be guided into a medieval torture chamber and try out that stuff on yourself than to have to walk 10 miles with one of those on your back.
I'm on the hunt for a pack like this. Hudson, do you manage to carry 2-3 weeks of gear and food plus camera equipment in a pack like this? Hard to imagine you can do that. Especially in the arctic or mountains when you need a four season tent?
Nope. No camera bag is for that. Gregory is my brand for that. They fit my torso. Toss in some icu's for protection and put a Fstop navin holster on your chest. Go to a good pack fitter to find the serious outdoor pack that fits your body. They should have you try multiple brands with weight. It's an all day affair. Take your time. :)
You should try the Gitzo adventuary backpacks that came out last year. I think there is a 30 and a 45L
I've looked. I love my big 3543xls tripod of theirs to death, but the backpack fails on a number of levels for me. It's not modular enough to split efficient space use between photo and other gear depending on the trip. I know roll tops are the rage stylistically, but top pockets make much more sense to me. It has no ice ace loops, and the side pockets get in the way for skis and tripods. If you strap a tall /real tripod on the back, it throws way too much weight out behind you making a pack far less conformable. You want it up the side tight next to your body with the weight going down on your hips.
Nice looking gear. You have any thoughts for carrying a small amount of camera gear and a couple of additional items while riding ski lifts?
Hey man, I tend to go with a medium or small shallow icu in that Osprey bag. Dakine makes some good back opening ski packs too. Zip access and a little lower profile is key. You'd dig that osprey I'll bet. :)
Thanks for the review. I've the MindShift BackLight 26L and 36l Backpack (now they made also a new 45L). Have you ever try these?
Yeah, I like those packs too, but I'd put their harness system quite a bit below either F-stop or Shimoda.
Great video!! One thing about the main opening on F Stop - Sukha it look really smal ...
Have you had any problem with this issue? This my only thought about this backpack.
Kind Regards
Hmmmm, It's about as big an opening as I've ever had in a backpack. You couldn't fit a bigger one under the shoulder strap attachments. It's certainly been fine for me. :-)
Check out Gitzo’s adventury backpack. Ironically it’s a nice inexpensive alternative to F-$TOP
Just like any pack maker a quality harness system and modular, versatile design doesn't come cheap. That gitzo is a tiny step better than Lowe pro and peak designs torture harnesses, but not truly modular and if you really care about your back, pony up for the quality and ergonomics design that f-stop's R&D produces. Money you won't regret spending after decades of treating your back well. My Sukha is still like new after trips from Africa to Patagonia, Alaska and Mexico through the past decade.
You can buy an overnight backpack at at Walmart and then spend thousands on chiropractors, or you can buy Gregory, arc'teryx, or osprey for 3 times as much and not damage your back. This Fstop vs gitzo comparison is the same equation. I tried the gitzo on and took it off. That's the last ill touch one.
regarding shooting in the ocean, I know you've recently gotten yourself a leofoto tripod... have you seen their new Poseiden series of tripods??
Hudson, I've been a confirmed Fstop user for many years. Congrats on being an ambassador, and thanks for the review. I have 4 Fstop bags, and many accessories. The tripod bags are a well kept secret....I have 4 and move them around for various uses. They are great for far more than tripods. They're great for many softboxes too.
I have 2 suggestions / complaints for Fstop. Since you probably have their ear, perhaps you'd share.
1.) I know there are good arguments both ways, but lately I've been wishing for an adjustable top lid, rather than a zip down top opening. It just offers far more versatility.
2.) I'd like a well designed large accessory bag to strap on the back of the pack that would accommodate at least a 15" laptop as well as other accessory gear. For example, with macro / flower photography, I have so many miscellaneous pieces of gear (numerous clamps, lights, diffusers, top rail, etc) that just don't fit well inside or anywhere else. I'd like a bag to strap / clip QUICKLY onto the back that would be ultra versatile. Properly designed, this bag could be used for many purposes. I wouldn't hike with a computer, but sometimes you need a good way to strap it on.
I tend to agree with #1. Less with 2 as I hate weight off the back, but it's not a bad idea for many. :) I'll pass it on.
What pack would you recommend for like 4 to 5 days hikes with camera gear?
To be honest... For that is look to gregory or osprey or the like. For big trips you can't beat a serious backpacker's pack. Use padded camera inserts and mount a holster to the packs chest harness. That is how I do multinight trips. Get a good pack fitter at a good outdoor store to find the right pack to fit your body. It's like shoes... Different brands fit different torsos. A good pack fitter will have you carry several with weight in them to custom fit you. It matters. Protect your back for the long haul.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Man thanks so much for the quick response! I'm leaning more and more this way. I love my Atmos 65L think I might make that work and use your suggestion and have a front holster (Easier to take my camera gear in carryon if I need too). Do you have any suggestions on camera inserts that work well with normal hiking backpacks or and little hacks to get them to fit/work well?
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I should also explain my trip. I'm going to be traveling around the world for a year and doing multi day hikes here and there and where I can and in between I'll be either camping or in hostels.
Hey man what kind of video tripod would you recommend for someone like me who is not a professional but aspiring to be, i do alot of hikes and nature content and i need to start bringing a tripod with me
Youssef, without a doubt the 500AH / 324CL combo linked here. Www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks I'm about to start offering those complete as custom builds with every thread greased and set up just like mine at 6.9 pounds total. I'll be launching them this week. Hit me up via email or watch this Thursday's video if you want to know more. :)
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How do you go taking the Tilopa on airplanes? I like to bring my camera bag as carry on but I’m not sure how smaller airlines will feel about it.
The Sukha can be problematic, but the Tilopa fits every jet I've flown. I have a more recent video about the pelican air. I love using that and checking the fstop when I can.
Hudson Henry Photography I’m looking at buying the Tilopa so that’s great to hear. I’ll check out your newer video on the Pelican case as well. The reason I’m looking to buy a new bag is I’m doing a safari in Africa and need something rugged that will handle my telephoto lenses. I’d love to use a Pelican case, but there are very tight weight restrictions on the domestic flight I have to take. So I’m trying to go as lightweight as possible.
I appreciate the response Hudson!
The Atlas packs look amazing though.
Having checked them out... Id stick with Fstop for the harness system, versatility of the icu system and build quality.
Have you been able to use the Tilopa as a carry on when flying successfully?
Hundreds of times
@@HudsonHenryPhoto my man👊
I've even gotten the Sukha on Easy Jet in Greece. They made me prove it would fit in the little demo thing at the gate. The Sukha is tougher. The tilopa is cake. :)
Have you seen/tried the Atlas (athlete or adventure) backpack? Would be interested to see your review of it.
It's clever in it's way, but I think they are doing away with part of the biggest strength of the F-stop and Shimoda bags. I love that I can choose a tiny protective insert if I'm doing a big climb with lots of gear like rope, protection, crampons, food, stove, sleeping bag, etc and a small camera setup or a huge protective insert if I'm doing a trip with short hikes from the car, 2 bodies and 8 lenses. I absolutely want removable camera inserts in mulitple sizes to be flexible and I certainly don't want anything sewn in. I like to put lightweight stuff to the sides, beneath and behind the padded camera inserts.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto The atlas pack has an origami design where you can trade the space of a 70-200 f/2.8 for general storage so in effect it is like carrying a medium vs large ICU at the pull/push of a tab. I do not think a pro would be carrying less photo gear than than the athlete collapsed. My request for a review though was more in terms of harness, belt, the way it sits, etc. when fully loaded in comparison to a Tilopa rather than the flexibility of a medium vs a large ICU.
@@dimitristsagdis7340 It's a lot more than that. I want to be able to use a small shallow sometimes with one lens and body. Sometimes you have no choice because of how much other stuff you need to bring. I understood your question. I just was letting you know why the design doesn't appeal to me enough to review. Padded units also wear and I like to replace them as they age. The backpack should last through several changes. There are a lot of reasons I'm just not drawn to this less modular design. 70-200 pull out or not. If you get one and love it, let me know. I kind of doubt this will get get far off the ground as is. I do like the multiple harness options though.
Your quite a freaking good talker did the whole thing in one take i couldn’t dream of talking on camera imagine this
Won't this TILOPA backpack send you straight to checked baggage? It's tough to present it as a carry on.. 😅
I carried that pack on many many flights. I even got the bigger Shinn on some too. That said, I don't use anything but NYA-EV0 anymore. This video you're commenting on is neary 250 weeks old. ;-) NYA-EVO's founder did a lot of work for Deuter and F-stop before doing his own thing. I think he's the best in the game. shop.hudsonhenry.com/collections/nya-evo Great guy too. The 60C is actually closer to 40L until you deploy the upper drybag and front expansion. The C stands for carry-on compliant: th-cam.com/video/W3KA7Rl46Xg/w-d-xo.html
id love to visit Patagonia. any workshops in the near future?
Not 2022, but we're considering 2023. It's one of my favorite locations. Stay tuned... We ran an epic one in 2019. Just search the channel for some stories from it.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto ill check it right now. Great channel btw. Found it today
My issue with these two brands is that you pay £300+ for the bag, then need to spend extra for the camera compartment...lol Reminds me of Apple...
Look at my much later video on nya Evo: th-cam.com/video/W3KA7Rl46Xg/w-d-xo.html to see my latest thoughts.
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This is the toughest topic ever. Thank you.
99.999999% of photographers don’t actually “hike”. In Montana it’s essential to have a good backpack and none have felt good. I’m forced to buy an actual hiking backpack for comfort.
But accessibility is hurt.
You have what is called GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome). I have the same issue, lol! Right now, I have about over 10 backpacks, Osprey packs (I have the Kamber as well), Click Elite packs, and Gregory. Right now, I am using the Atlas Athlete. I loved it so much, that I just recently got the Atlas Adventure pack that I will use for my hike up the Conrad Kain Hut in the Bugaboos Provincial Park. Now, I have not tried the FStop packs and Shimoda.
Photographers always have the wrong: case (backpack), tripod & head, light modifier. Oh, compared to some Louboutin shoes these are all very cheap.
I dont like ventilation of those backs. Hope one day Osprey makes Photo-Backpacks
It's been great from Baja to Costa Rica. The back panel is as good as I've had in a photo pack. Sadly osprey and gregory are unlikely to limit a design to working photographers needs when they have the entire backpacking world as a client base.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto thx for the response. I just found the Mammut Trion 50/35l Backpack. I think this is the one ive been searching for.
Will the Kamber 42 can take XL ICU?
nope. it's not nearly big enough for that. Stick with F-stop's Tilopa or Sukha for that.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I wish they were comfortable as professional hiking bags. Do you know by any chance on a big enough hiking bag for the unit?
@@Lionheart319 Nothing truly modular and big exists with simple back access. Your best bet is to get the best fitting big trekking pack for your body (i'm a big fan of Gregory and Arcteryx). Then use a chest mounted holster (like the F-stop Navin: amzn.to/2Lnk0vx) along with some padded cases for lenses and supplies inside the bag and top pocket. That's what I do. To be honest I think back access and a quality frame for a big pack are a bit incompatible.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thank U for taking the time to answer.I am actually considering the Gregory Jade for that. it is with front access. But I guess I will have to compromise somewhere.
lowepro powder has all that and it is only 5lbs. $250 in amazon
While better than the last decades of lowepro, it still puts the waist straps at navel height, not down on the hips. I wish lowe would build a serious harness that actually took the weight off a person's shoulders and put it on the hips. Really only Fstop uses a serious backpackers harness.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto i am small and needed a smaller hip belt. the hip belt on lowepro powder right now is still large for me when adjusted at its smallest. i had to modify it to fit my hips. hip belts can be loosened to a bigger size but it can only go so small. all these camera bags are a one size fits all deal so i have to make do. i am here because i am intrigued by fstop bag inserts after buying the powder. i need fstop’s extra large inserts that can fit my 200-600 lens. after reviewing several bags i still think the powder is the best out there. i just need an extra large camera insert. tipalo and shimoda bags are both heavier for backpacking (7lbs) and also are expensive. every ounce matters in backpacking.
Lowepro's problem for me is not about the size of the hipbelt. It's about the proportions and quality of the harness. That's where lowepro consistently gets it wrong for 90% of body types. I would never be able to get thier packs "hip" belt close to my hips. It's built for very short spine proportions.
My "camera bag" is not my real backpacking pack. It's not what I'd take on a multiday climbing trip. Gregory is my brand for that and I use F-stops ICUs and Navin holster on my chest. The extra weight of my Gregory bag or my Fstop bag are mostly devoted to the externally ergonomic harness systems which effectively keep all the weight stable on my hips, not my shoulders. I've carried 90 pounds in the Gregory on a 14 day traverse of the Brooks range. The Fstop bag really maxes out about 40 which is plenty for a fair weather overnight with camera gear.
All that said, if you're extremely small torsoed, the lowepro might work for light loads while the Fstop would be too long for your body. For me Gregory's and Fstop's bags are perfect. Shimoda's adjustable shoulder harnesses seem like a very weak design that could fail and strand you backpacking. I'm also not a fan of thier idea of "padding."
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No pockets on the sides of the pack. No pockets on the hip belt. The quality of F-Stop’s bags is incredible, but they aren’t very user-friendly. Anytime you want to access anything you are carrying, you have to remove your pack entirely. Additionally, some people want the convenience of a water bottle, and they don’t have even one place on the outside of their pack to place one. If they would add the easy-access pockets that every other outdoor backpack manufacturer has placed on their packs for years, I’d be first in line to buy one. Until then, these deficits are too significant to overlook.
You really should research them a bit more my friend. Both my tilopa and Sukha have huge vertical zip expanding side pockets. They both have dedicated hydration pack pockets with waterproof protection for your gear and hose routing, they both have simple, bombproof mill spec attachment points on the back, top, bottom, sides, hip points and chest harness to give you the versatility to easily attach any sort of hip pocket, ladder lock strap, lens pouch, bottle carrier or camera holster to your hip, chest or just about anywhere outside your bag. That carry versatility is exactly what drew me to them in the first place as a long time mountaineer and backcountry skier.
Hudson Henry Photography - I’ve used F-Stop before. And while you are correct there are a lot of options for attachments, I don’t want to have to attach a bunch of pouches to the outside of my pack to make it useful. Side pockets for a water bottle and hip pockets for quick access items are standard on virtually every other outdoor backpack in existence. These would be easy for F-Stop to add to their bags, but they would prefer to push their customers to buy additional add-ons. Bottom line, attached storage is never going to be as practical as integrated storage. It’s unfortunate, because as I said, their bags are very high quality with an incredible aesthetic.
Again, huge expanding side pockets are built into both of my fstop Sukha and tilopa. Maybe you missed that in my response... I can easily fit a liter on each side.
Couldn't disagree more. Built in hip pockets turn me off. I often sling my camera beneath the pack and it rides on my hip right where that pocket would be. Much prefer detachable, especially the insanely well engineered attachment points on these bags. Maybe you should try a different or more updated model. But then different strokes for different folks. I prefer and need the versatility f-stop provides.
Hudson Henry Photography - The type of side pockets I am referencing are the one located on every other pack that are 1/3 the length of the pack with the opening on top. I know the pockets you are referencing and they zip open down the side and would require you to zip your bottle inside them. Normal side pockets allow you to reach back and grab your bottle as you hike. I agree everyone has different tastes, but there is a reason the type I’m referencing are standard on most packs. Regardless, I enjoyed your overview of the pack and after diving further through your videos I am now a subscriber. Keep putting out the great content...but I reserve the right to respectfully disagree in the future 😏
Sure. That's fine. Different opinions make the world go around. Thanks for the kind words and subscribe.
Gimme a hydration bladder system every time. I kinda abhore those pockets you describe. Glad my Gregory, arcteryx and fstop bags don't have em. ;)
The F Stop ICUs will not fit in any of the Osprey snowboarding packs that are smaller than 40L, and even so will be a very tight squeeze, they just don't have the depth. Also, the zippers run through the lift loaders on the Kamber, which for a photographer would be very, very inconvenient.
I use it all the time on climbing and skiing trips. Medium slope fits prefect as I link in the description. Several of my Patagonia workshop attendees used this combo for an overnight to lago Torre and loved it just before covid hit.
Takes a day or two and hitting the double snap locks to release the load lifters or snap them back before it becomes muscle memory and takes no more than an extra second. I wear it back country skiing and it's actually faster access than any pack I've used built to handle that activity. It's epic for mixed photo adventures where adventure is the key word. For photo trips I'm F-stop all the way.
none of these camera bags can take a sleeping bag and a tent with them.
Huh? My F-stop bags certainly will do that. My Sukha has taken that, a stove, and everything for a backcountry ski overnight atop mount saint Helens in early spring twice. It also mounts my skis to the side quite easily in the rough spots. You just insert a smaller icu to make more room for gear. With the Sukha a medium slope icu gives plenty of extra room for the gear you describe and a 2 litter drinking bladder, food, extra clothes, etc. The tilopa can easily do overnights too, but would get cramped for snow camping trips. That's the beauty of f-stops modular design and another reason I love them. If more than an overnight, or if I need protection on a climb, then yes I step up to my big Gregory pack and put the fstop icu near my back high enough to easily access and carry the camera on my chest in thier navin holster.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Sorry I didn't see it. Maybe you should do a packing video so that we know how you pack your gear in the bag. Also tell us for how many days you are packing and what is the total weight of the bag when its fully loaded.
Your videos are too dark. I cannot see anything with your dark shirts. On my phone