Forgot to post it, but you can check the build out on under the public build section and its called "Venenu Shiv (1 focus Build) and you can use it for yourself! Enjoy :D
Sorry! They are gonna be doing a lot of QOL stuff in the future but currently that's what we got! Hopefully though the item pop ups and descriptions end up helping the viewing experience
@@SanctittyTV I assume you mean on Valve's side. Keep in mind this is early, early alpha. There's no telling what kind of feedback they'll take from the community and incorporate into the game down the road.
I play Spirit Shiv too. Mid game build is pretty busted. Extra Charge seems excessive because he has 3 knves already that cooldown quickly, but it’s still a great choice
Can agree! Basically theory is you can just throw them faster so you can get double 1's between your shotgun shots making the overall dam potential the highest!
for a knife build you 1000% want rapid recharge so you can have 5 knives at the start of a fight, its just such a big increase idk why you wouldnt buy it
@@hittite_gaming well the cooldown and recharge rate is fast enough for me to always have. I started off using that but it felt like I didn’t need it. And I don’t. I focus more on slice n dice and ult so I build into that
@@ManifestGamingChannel ah, i guess i misunderstood "spirit shiv" as just the knife build. Dash builds are more commonly dashtank so more vital tbh unless youre running some non-tanky dash build for some reason.
I can't understand why people build Shiv around his knives. I get them last and focus on the 2 and the ult. With high spirit and the right mix of actives and gun you can burst tanky 3k health characters in seconds. Even in the early game tier 2 slice gets you 200+ base damage and if you have ult you can mimic it and hit for 500+ damage in a burst within the first 10 minutes of a match. What am I missing about these knife builds? They seem so stupid compared to a slice and dice build. Idk maybe I'm crazy
having 3-4-5 knives ticking on enemies with spirit lifesteal gives you a lot of good sustain to keep you alive, pair that with a decay or a torment pulse you are straight up not dying
i put my mystic reverb and superior CD on my 2 and build for 5 charges on knife with mystic slow. Honestly i can be 100 hp and fight 1v1 and win most fights
@@luvsik7 yeah but thats 1 or 2 knives. He's still doing the base knife dmg, whatever bleeding dmg that hit before debut remover, and he still has his 2 and 4 and shotgun. It isn't really doing much. Better off going spirit armor or shield.
im scared that shiv will be nerfed into the ground in the right hands he is scary but you can counter his ult its so slow and takes a long time to wind up yet people just run, maybe just low elo
The macro calls and map awareness were excellent! Only thing to improve on is to press 3 after big bursts more often, there were a few double bombs that went off where you could've healed a lot of that burst damage back up. Otherwise great game.
I'm not sure why 20 minutes in you guys haven't tried to team fight and get the guardian down in green. Felt you guys should of tried to teamfight to get that down to open up a flex spot and just map presence
Far too many times your could have pushed objectives and decided not to for some reason. A tower that was 3 shots from dead you just left for 3 mins. A walker you were on all alone with 4 of 6 enemies spotted and the creeps got it to half before dying. If you had stayed you could have taken the walker. So many weird decisions to not play the objectives.
What do you expect dude? The game is just barely in closed access and there's not even alot of items. Your the type of dude who walks into a wall and gets mad that someone built it there.
I'm surprised the deadlock servers are still running with how much these guys "break the game" It seems like it's actually true cause the server's have been laggy this week :) I was just saying get more original titles. Anyways I'm going to go back to my wall.
@@Venenuyou could riff off the reply you sent. Not a lot of people probably knew shiv got nerfed, could have added something cool with that in the title.
I can't understand why people build Shiv around his knives. I get them last and focus on the 2 and the ult. With high spirit and the right mix of actives and gun you can burst tanky 3k health characters in seconds. Even in the early game tier 2 slice gets you 200+ base damage and if you have ult you can mimic it and hit for 500+ damage in a burst within the first 10 minutes of a match. What am I missing about these knife builds? They seem so stupid compared to a slice and dice build. Idk maybe I'm crazy
Both builds are very valid, dashtank just has the problem of getting shut down really hard once people buy CC. Knife shiv can keep his distance and still do great damage
Forgot to post it, but you can check the build out on under the public build section and its called "Venenu Shiv (1 focus Build) and you can use it for yourself! Enjoy :D
They really need to come up with better icons for items. Even enlarged i cant tell what items are
skill issue
Sorry! They are gonna be doing a lot of QOL stuff in the future but currently that's what we got! Hopefully though the item pop ups and descriptions end up helping the viewing experience
@@SanctittyTV I assume you mean on Valve's side. Keep in mind this is early, early alpha. There's no telling what kind of feedback they'll take from the community and incorporate into the game down the road.
@@Venenu no no youre fine! Just a random thought on item icons. Not ur fault at all!
They wouldnt be focused on user QoL yet but after awhile you just recognize every item tbh
Shiv just out here doing Shiv things.
So much fun, throwing those bad boys all over the map haha
You should use your right click more when farming big camps and when you slice and dice onto the enemies it does huge damage
More dmg yes, but shoots slower and takes 2 ammo per shot, I usually only finish the adds with right click
@@afscrew123 can cancel right click into 2 immediately, good burst
Oh good call on the tip! Appreciate it :D
I like that you watched the whole video and think he needs a tutorial lol
@RamboOps you see how he commented before you and said thanks for the tip? Yea good players can still learn things bud.
Icefrog doing Icefrog things - nerf the bad ones and buff the broken even more. Shiv is even more broken then before.
I play Spirit Shiv too. Mid game build is pretty busted. Extra Charge seems excessive because he has 3 knves already that cooldown quickly, but it’s still a great choice
Can agree! Basically theory is you can just throw them faster so you can get double 1's between your shotgun shots making the overall dam potential the highest!
for a knife build you 1000% want rapid recharge so you can have 5 knives at the start of a fight, its just such a big increase idk why you wouldnt buy it
@@hittite_gaming well the cooldown and recharge rate is fast enough for me to always have. I started off using that but it felt like I didn’t need it. And I don’t. I focus more on slice n dice and ult so I build into that
@@ManifestGamingChannel ah, i guess i misunderstood "spirit shiv" as just the knife build. Dash builds are more commonly dashtank so more vital tbh unless youre running some non-tanky dash build for some reason.
The sleep reaction time was quick! Well played
I can't understand why people build Shiv around his knives. I get them last and focus on the 2 and the ult. With high spirit and the right mix of actives and gun you can burst tanky 3k health characters in seconds. Even in the early game tier 2 slice gets you 200+ base damage and if you have ult you can mimic it and hit for 500+ damage in a burst within the first 10 minutes of a match.
What am I missing about these knife builds? They seem so stupid compared to a slice and dice build. Idk maybe I'm crazy
If you get hit with slowing hex, you don't get to play the game anymore. Knife build also has some distance play which is nice sometimes
having 3-4-5 knives ticking on enemies with spirit lifesteal gives you a lot of good sustain to keep you alive, pair that with a decay or a torment pulse you are straight up not dying
i put my mystic reverb and superior CD on my 2 and build for 5 charges on knife with mystic slow. Honestly i can be 100 hp and fight 1v1 and win most fights
does debuff remover invalidate this build?
Why would it?
@@dasuberpanda Doesn’t it get rid of the bleed dmg? I know that it gets rid of affliction damage from Pocket
@@luvsik7 yeah but thats 1 or 2 knives. He's still doing the base knife dmg, whatever bleeding dmg that hit before debut remover, and he still has his 2 and 4 and shotgun. It isn't really doing much. Better off going spirit armor or shield.
like the other guy said, you have so many knives that not really. it can somewhat counter it but your knives will still hurt a bit
Great vid ven
Thanks! Hope it helped in some way
im scared that shiv will be nerfed into the ground in the right hands he is scary but you can counter his ult its so slow and takes a long time to wind up yet people just run, maybe just low elo
The macro calls and map awareness were excellent! Only thing to improve on is to press 3 after big bursts more often, there were a few double bombs that went off where you could've healed a lot of that burst damage back up. Otherwise great game.
Why do some characters got those hinges on their arms and legs.
I think every character has some sort of prosthetic
I'm not sure why 20 minutes in you guys haven't tried to team fight and get the guardian down in green. Felt you guys should of tried to teamfight to get that down to open up a flex spot and just map presence
Val accent hooooooly
Val from like ..Evolve?
Val as in Valorant. @@dasuberpanda
Far too many times your could have pushed objectives and decided not to for some reason. A tower that was 3 shots from dead you just left for 3 mins. A walker you were on all alone with 4 of 6 enemies spotted and the creeps got it to half before dying. If you had stayed you could have taken the walker. So many weird decisions to not play the objectives.
High mmr 0.01% original free range never done before future tech pro shiv build pro
Shiv breaks the game, regardless of build type, is more accurate.
He will be nerfed, probably the % on the ult amongst other things.
Looks like normal high mmr shiv gameplay with another title that is 100% unoriginal.
New build with the nerfs that came to shiv! :D
What do you expect dude? The game is just barely in closed access and there's not even alot of items. Your the type of dude who walks into a wall and gets mad that someone built it there.
I'm surprised the deadlock servers are still running with how much these guys "break the game" It seems like it's actually true cause the server's have been laggy this week :) I was just saying get more original titles. Anyways I'm going to go back to my wall.
@@Venenuyou could riff off the reply you sent. Not a lot of people probably knew shiv got nerfed, could have added something cool with that in the title.
@@kuh347 if you dont like it don't watch instead of being a passive aggressive weirdo.
I can't understand why people build Shiv around his knives. I get them last and focus on the 2 and the ult. With high spirit and the right mix of actives and gun you can burst tanky 3k health characters in seconds. Even in the early game tier 2 slice gets you 200+ base damage and if you have ult you can mimic it and hit for 500+ damage in a burst within the first 10 minutes of a match.
What am I missing about these knife builds? They seem so stupid compared to a slice and dice build. Idk maybe I'm crazy
Sometimes I used 2 and hit for A LOT and sometimes I use 2 and hit for not so much??
Both builds are very valid, dashtank just has the problem of getting shut down really hard once people buy CC. Knife shiv can keep his distance and still do great damage