solving the exponential equilateral triangle problem

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  • Solving the exponential equilateral triangle problem. Given an equilateral triangle with each side being e^x and its area being e^(3x), how can we solve for x? We need to use the rule of exponentials, the area of an equilateral triangle, and also the logarithm. Give it a try before you watch the solution! ‪@bprpmathbasics‬
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ความคิดเห็น • 88

  • @unclegardener
    @unclegardener 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    We need you to moonwalk to the board one day!!!

  • @morteza3268
    @morteza3268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Using this formula will get you to the answer faster.
    S=1/2×a×b×sin(c)
    c is the middle angle of two sides a-b
    We know that this is an equilateral triangle. So each angle will be equal to 60 degrees.
    S=1/2×e^(2x)×sin(π/3)=e^(3x)
    Simplify: e^(x)=sqrt(3)/4
    X=ln(sqrt(3)/4)

    • @boesftupfm
      @boesftupfm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ecactly my thoughts

    • @swsennel
      @swsennel ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This method is valid, but it uses the fact that sin(π/3) = sin(60º) = (√3)/2. I believe part of the video's purpose is to show us how we can prove what the altitude (height) of an equilateral triangle is. Once we get to 2:16, I think it's just as fast to calculate using the triangle's area as it is to use the sine of 60º.

    • @morteza3268
      @morteza3268 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swsennel I know, his goal is to teach and it's good that he doesn't use too many formulas.

  • @sidritvejseli704
    @sidritvejseli704 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    im gonna say . its the first time i solve one of your problems on my own without your help and im feeling awesome. i use sin60 degrees to find the height but apart from that i solved it and i feel amazing

  • @krzysztofmiller3557
    @krzysztofmiller3557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fun fact. We can make a formula for n face equilateral polygon for which side is e^x and area is e^(nx) where n is the number of faces (for example, a hexagon would have side e^x and area e^6x). The function is "f(n) = (ln(cot(π/n)) + ln(n) - 2ln(2)) / (n-2)" where n> 2. When we put the number of faces under n we get x of the given polygon, then we can put x under e^x to get the side length and under e^(nx) to get the area of the polygon. We can also find out from the derivative d/dn f(n) that the longest possible side has an equilateral octagon. Thanks for the idea

  • @darabqureshi3184
    @darabqureshi3184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I got the answer using herons formula.

  • @ricardoguzman5014
    @ricardoguzman5014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great creativity. I like the problem better than the solution, the fact that you thought of an interesting mathematical idea.

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's also easy to do using Heron's formula.

    • @longsteinpufferbatch4949
      @longsteinpufferbatch4949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never liked the herons formula 😬

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      But in this case it simplifies good enough

  • @nomic655
    @nomic655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Quickly recalling the formula for the height of an equilateral triangle, prove h=[sqrt(3) * s]/2. Plug in s=e^x and use the formula for area of triangle A=(b*h)/2, and since A=e^(3x) we have e^(3x)=[e^(2x)*sqrt(3)]/4 with simplifications. Divide by e^(2x) on both sides and end up with e^x=sqrt(3)/4 so x=ln(sqrt(3)/2).

    • @nomic655
      @nomic655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since x can be written as (ln3)/2-2ln2, I tried rewriting it like that too, but it just seemed more confusing. The value of x doesn't matter anyways because the side of the triangle (e^x) is always positive, so I'd say the simplest is best. Plus if you plug in x=ln(sqrt(3)/2) on e^x you get that s=sqrt(3)/2.

    • @quandaledinglegaming9930
      @quandaledinglegaming9930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      s=e^x??????????

    • @nomic655
      @nomic655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@quandaledinglegaming9930 s: side of tequila triangle. In this problem, s=e^x

    • @quandaledinglegaming9930
      @quandaledinglegaming9930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nomic655 thanks

    • @azzteke
      @azzteke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@quandaledinglegaming9930 ???

  • @longsteinpufferbatch4949
    @longsteinpufferbatch4949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty neat lil problem.

  • @FT-2008.
    @FT-2008. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Instead of doing the Pythagorean theorem stuff, you could have split this into two right angle triangles and applied 30 60 90 triangle knowing that it is an equilateral triangle we know that all sides are congruent which means that all angles are necessarily congruent.. That would save time but your way is active as well. Thank you sir

    • @nomic655
      @nomic655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think we use the Pythagorean Theorem to find out a formula for h and I don't know how can that happen with your method

    • @rhymmasta8365
      @rhymmasta8365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nomic655 you know that if the base of the right triangle is (1/2)e^x and the hypotenuse is e^x then the height will be (sqrt(3)/2)e^x. This is because in a 30-60-90 the long leg is sqrt(3) times the short leg. I think that's what they were saying

    • @nomic655
      @nomic655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rhymmasta8365 I'm pretty sure the way to prove that is with the Pythagorean Theorem

    • @rhymmasta8365
      @rhymmasta8365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nomic655 is that the only way?

    • @nomic655
      @nomic655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rhymmasta8365 Well, yes.

  • @Christian_Martel
    @Christian_Martel ปีที่แล้ว

    A= (e^x)*(sqr(3)/2) * (e^x)2 = (e^x)^3 … then divide by e^(2x) b/s
    Sqr(3)/4 = e^x
    x = 0.5*ln(3) - 2ln(2)

  • @WiseSquash
    @WiseSquash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice problem. It is also interesting that x is a neg value but e^x is positive

    • @TastySalamanders
      @TastySalamanders ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When the base for an exponent is positive the result is always positive even if the exponent is negative. This is because negative exponents are just the reciprocal of their positive counterparts.
      i.e. x^(-y) = 1/(x^y)

  • @alexei8870
    @alexei8870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    or we couls just do the area of an equilateral wich is L^2 * square root 3 all divided by 4 and its pretty simple e^2x x square root 3 divided by 4 =e^3x , we divide by e^2x and then we take ln

  • @nimmira
    @nimmira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even though I like circles more than triangles (dunno why) but I'll consider this geo problem as a gift for my birthday today, so thank you :)

    • @nomic655
      @nomic655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      happy bday!

    • @nimmira
      @nimmira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nomic655 Thank you :)

    • @equal7958
      @equal7958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy birthday 🎉

    • @nimmira
      @nimmira 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@equal7958 Thank you :)

  • @Christian_Martel
    @Christian_Martel ปีที่แล้ว

    I definitely like when answers are factored to primes.

  • @QuiescentPilot
    @QuiescentPilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting problem, but the fact that your answer was a negative number for a geometric side length was… interesting, and I was kind of curious why you didn’t address that. Seems kind of important given what the problem context was, haha.

  • @lounkai752
    @lounkai752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the video, I did it myself the way you did it before looking at your solution, so I'm happy, but I found the result weird because sqrt(3)/4 is smaller than 1, so x=ln(sqrt(3)/4) will be a negative value. I was confused about having negative length but you did so, so why not 😵

    • @lounkai752
      @lounkai752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andeew-4066 oh yeah true, I forgot about that, thanks

    • @phoenixarian8513
      @phoenixarian8513 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      X can be a negative value and that doesn't matter. It's e^x to be the side length of this triangle and that is NOT a negative length.

    • @deept3215
      @deept3215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      one could rewrite the problem stating sides are y and area is y^3, then no exponentials and no confusion

    • @phoenixarian8513
      @phoenixarian8513 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deept3215 yep. This is junior middle school level.

  • @abrahammekonnen
    @abrahammekonnen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a fun little problem.

  • @petejackson7976
    @petejackson7976 ปีที่แล้ว

    h=e^xsin(60) =((3^1/2)/2)e^x using trigonometric

  • @josefstr
    @josefstr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That square root symbol at 2:34 gave me nightmares

  • @Misteribel
    @Misteribel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m sure you can generalise this for any base other than e and nonzero, non-one. For 2ⁿ it would be same result with log₂, for 3ⁿ it becomes log₃ for 5ⁿ log₅ etc.

    • @phoenixarian8513
      @phoenixarian8513 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. It's the exponential function on the left to be equal to a constant sqrt(3)/4.

  • @alozin5339
    @alozin5339 ปีที่แล้ว

    its nice how when you evulate ln(sqrt3/4) it equals -0.83...

  • @artsmith1347
    @artsmith1347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    05:10 Agreed, that makes it really cool. I'm serious -- and not in the way Biden says, "I'm serious," "It's no joke," etc. Your channel is top-notch, and your creativity is one reason why.

    • @marcushendriksen8415
      @marcushendriksen8415 ปีที่แล้ว

      You americans just have to politicise everything, don't you? I can't imagine what it must take to shoehorn Biden and Trump into every conversation

    • @artsmith1347
      @artsmith1347 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@marcushendriksen8415 It is often a form of mockery to "agree" with someone who said something self-congratulatory. Such mockery is done by someone who wants others to be as insecure as they are. Sometimes it is healthy to be self-congratulatory. I thought it was healthy of him to do so and I agreed with his assessment. I didn't bring Trump into this thread -- you did. I cited a familiar and obvious example of disingenuousness to distance myself from a perception that I was being disingenuous in my agreement and praise. It must be boring to be offended by analogies.

  • @scisci5000
    @scisci5000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:28

  • @buff9943
    @buff9943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Спасибо за видео!!!

  • @skipmercer
    @skipmercer ปีที่แล้ว

    COS 30 = (sqrt3)/2

  • @matthewjames7513
    @matthewjames7513 ปีที่แล้ว

    Strange how the area has units of Length^3 which is volume

  • @metchoumetch3176
    @metchoumetch3176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your video very much. Just be careful whith your "4", they look like the Ψ (Psi) Greck or Cyrillic letter. It' a detail.

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome!!!

  • @tonyhaddad1394
    @tonyhaddad1394 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one 👍👍

  • @aliali-i2z5q
    @aliali-i2z5q 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for everything
    I need you to tell me the way how can I solve any problem in math

    • @negus1378
      @negus1378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      using your brain and hand

    • @longsteinpufferbatch4949
      @longsteinpufferbatch4949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And practicing helps. A lot.
      Don't give up on your first tries.

  • @PaoloCasillo
    @PaoloCasillo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In other words we are looking for the side s of an equilateral triangle such as its are is equal to s^3. So:
    s^3=s^2*sqrt(3)/4 => s=sqrt(3)/4. [=> x=ln(s)]
    Done!

  • @krzysztofmiller3557
    @krzysztofmiller3557 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @aliali-i2z5q
    @aliali-i2z5q 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @josephegbo-egbo8884
    @josephegbo-egbo8884 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pls really need you to help me solve the question you gave last time
    I can't do it
    2^x + 3^x² =6
    I would really appreciate

  • @seamanreal3862
    @seamanreal3862 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Show!!!

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    @sergniko ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anybody tell me, when the pokemon had gone? Just noticed that the pokemon is missing...

  • @pranavamali05
    @pranavamali05 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grt thnku

  • @tiagobarreto2127
    @tiagobarreto2127 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A=(1/2.5 x sqrt(3).5/2) / 2, why didn't you write / 2?

  • @DefenderTerrarian
    @DefenderTerrarian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    TIL that there's an equilateral triangle formula. I used Heron's formula. It got messy. I gave up.

    • @1p61803399
      @1p61803399 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got it using the Heron's formula (for equilateral A = sqrt(3) a^2 / 4)

    • @longsteinpufferbatch4949
      @longsteinpufferbatch4949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heron formula has always been too long

  • @TheDeadman544
    @TheDeadman544 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't ur final answer a negative number?

    • @oenrn
      @oenrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      x can be a negative number, because the side length is e^x, which is positive, and the area is e^3x, which is also positive.

    • @longsteinpufferbatch4949
      @longsteinpufferbatch4949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      X is a negative number yes. But notice that X is in the "exponent"
      A negative number in the exponent is no biggie coz all it does is reciprocate.

  • @nikolakosanovic9931
    @nikolakosanovic9931 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any solution for |sin(x)|= |sin((180/π)*x)