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- Using confounding language in scientific studies makes them more believable, but turns out it could all be a lie.
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Wait, so how can I trust this video? 0.0
+Lejames Bron OR IS IT o.0...
+Jeremy Brunnenmeyer It is scientific. We can't trust it...
***** I guess...
+Jeremy Brunnenmeyer Trust no one.
+Jeremy Brunnenmeyer you can't, and that's the real lesson
"religious people are more likely to believe bullshit"
............. Really?
+Leonard Greenpaw Well being religious means you believe in bullshit anyway.
The Sniper
............ That was the point to my sarcasm
lol true dat bro lol they won't even look up the double slit experiment too afraid lol
+Leonard Greenpaw Don't say that around any religious people, especially the less intelligent they are, because they may kill you.
I'm highly religious, but I can tell what is and what is not bullshit.
Lets learn about how some studies are inaccurate through other studies. The study of other studies with studies about the accuracy of their study!
Sounds like bullshit.
+tyra n Don't want to bring it up, but sounds like Gender Studies.
Well as scientists we're all about facts and proof therefore we THINK we believe our THEORIES provides evidence that MAY SUGGESTS the POSSIBILITY that we could POSSIBLY know what we're talking about -_- LOL
+MW2366 "Don't want to bring it up, *but* -" don't bring it up then.
+Teen Tesla As long as the Grants are there. Otherwise it won't be. There is money for man-made AGW studies but none for non-man-made AGW. So what do we get???
One of the best videos from DNews in a long time. And this is what I love about scientific minded people: they are willing to be self-critical because science is all about failing often until you find the right answer. On the other hand, it's usually harder for religious people to be critical of their own religious institution, due to dogma.
they have inspired me ... this video is bullshit
actually I find it to be quite the opposite. Most of my atheists friends never admit anything bad about science and are constantly trying to provoke me by offending my religion. I also find that you are being stereo typical about religious people
I HAVE NO NAME I think it's down to the nature of the two. Science's mission is to experiment and gather evidence to support or refute a hypothesis or theory, so it's almost subversive by nature. But religion is all about obeying the rules, and to break the rules is to be punished. Religion does not promote experimentation and overthrowing long-held beliefs or the tenets of the faith, while science encourages it.
***** Not exactly. They were lying and committing fraud, and that's not really what I was talking about.
+Rob “Lunatique” Chang no I think you've got it quite wrong. The vast majority of Christians support science its just that they don't support theories such as evolutionism and big bang. It makes a lot of sense as most universities in the Us and Europe are born from religions such as Christianity and clearly universities promote science. I also think that your overall understanding or religion is false. What you are thinking of is a cult. All mainstream religion are always born out of love, compassion and care otherwise there would be no one to believe in it. Just go to any place if worship and you can feel the kindness. You are somewhat correct about stepping out if order as if you commit any harsh sins such as murder and adultery, you will be punished but there is always room for forgiveness. In fact when Jesus was in Jerusalem, and Jews brought a woman who committed adultery to him to see how he would react, he forgave that woman. There are right and wrings of religion but nonetheless, we shouldn't judge other people for putting their faith there.
So how do i know if this study isn't bullshit?
+Mr.turnip I thought the same thing.
+Mr.turnip I thought the same thing.
+Mr.turnip Because a person who always tells the truth can not falsely say "I am a liar" and a liar can't falsely say "I am a liar", thus the person saying "I am a liar" must be a liar. Change it around to fit this situation and that's why, not sure how to more clearly explain it.
+Mr.turnip Cause that would be a paradox
+Mr.turnip and that still appropriately gives the message to simply question what is seen. Einstein was smart but the big bang is garbage
This is the same reason I don't trust a car salesman who uses too many automotive terms.
Whilst looking you straight in the eye when lying.
I am skeptical of anything that implies "Religious = Dumb"
"You shouldn't always trust science", say scientists.
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Scientist says: "don't trust the one's whose research disagrees with mine, so I can get the funding instead!" :D
or Scientist says: "My relevance is at risk, I have a mortgage, I want to take the kids to disney land, I want to write a book and make money based on my research, Sooooooo I will Fudge it and increase my life's Budget"
I think this episode was very entertaining, you know, it kept my attention totally. I'm not sure if the programme always had background music but I think this is the difference from the previous ones
Atheist: I will pretend I didn't saw this and will follow sceince like a monkey I evolved from.
_"There is a distinction between nonsense and bullshit..."_
I'm just waiting for an opportunity to break *this* quote out in conversation... XD
The only thing to disprove a scientist is a better scientist.
exactly the title should be can you trust certain scientist not science
+Shotter McGavin No you never trust a scientist (even the more respectable ones), that's the whole point of the video, you trust science not the people doing the science.
+Ashley ASHLEYM yep....a good scientific paper has to show exactly how they got to the conclusions they did and the data produced etc and do so in a clear and concise way.....then you go and double check them anyway. If it's accurate it's repeatable
+jakegibson Nope, the only thing to disprove a scientist are facts not another scientist.
+jakegibson Or a mathematician
I like how he uses the word "Bullshit". It's casual, genuine and to the point!
I just got a haircut, and it feels weird putting on headphones
+Killer ok
+killer ok
+killer ok
ok
Rocky ok
I think studies with so much emotion and energy, and simple words are the most honest. They're not trying to so much persuade you as they are trying to just open your eyes to the big picture or real issue.
Thanks for the data! I'm doing an project on this!
If someone is blowing smoke up your ass, they're a keeper.
Haven't seen you in a while
DJ Moon Knight
Hey man! New pic I see.
xxpyroxx75
I'd buy THAT for a dollar!
we spend half our lives learning big words to appropriately convey a thought, and the other half trying to remember how to put those thoughts into laymen's terms lmao
We are on TH-cam, there is no need to censor B U L L S H I T.
Both Science and Religion has caused me terrible anxiety that gives me haunting thoughts! I always try not to trust or follow either
Because scientists are modern day cultist
+dnews loving the music in this video! Any references?
Thanks for explaining the sentence. I didn't understand half the words and I was like, should I know what she's saying?
the very fact he could get away with calling bullshit on things that many times in an accredited paper that was (it had to be) pier reviewed, in my opinion, makes it that much more epic.
Also how the scientific community has treated cold fusion researchers in the past 25 years is pretty damn similar to how people treated Louis Pasteur, Galileo, and Alfred Wagner (the man behind plate tectonics).
"ontological confusion" sounds like bullshit to me...
I'm surprised she hasn't brought up anything on the opposite end of the spectrum - people whose language isn't "fancy enough". When your vocabulary in a paper is limited, people are less likely to take you seriously, even if you made a solid point. It's all about finding the right balance.
I find the tactile, linguistic bull poopary of this recounting to be not only satisfying but also to be profoundly potent. Hooray to you, Julia Wilda. Hooray!
Vocabulary is the easiest way to fake intelligence. I always fall back on big words when I'm losing an argument lol.
+DNews I have a BIG question you have done some vids on ghosts but how to objects sometimes move by themselves,air pressure? i don't know
Excellent DNews video, sharing this on the next five IFLScience posts that make me cringe.
A recent study find that many recent studies are b.s.
Bahahah, Julia is always so proper, it's hilarious watching her cuss!
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullsh*t
It's kinda hot when she swears :)
+LumpyLunatic sexy :p
weaboo micropenis
+God Gabe She's always beautiful...
+God Gabe yer the creepiest person
Of course someone with a meme pic and name would write this. Get a life, loser.
Yeah people use debate tactics like this too. Sometimes someone makes ridiculously long reply to address one small point. It looks like they know what they are writing but when you read the text you notice that most of it is irrelevant bullshit that should've been cutted out.
okay, so at the end of the video it said ''click here to watch'' i was interested to watch and thus clicking on it, but did not realise it actually paused the video and does not bring you to that video, I waited for legit 1 minute thinking that it was still loading and buffering XD
I'd like to know more about this paradigm substrate!!
The highlight of my day: I learned of an actual study on bullshit. Thanks DNews! :D
At least a basic understanding of what you're listening to/reading, links to reliable sources (NOT Wikipedia), and common sense is usually enough to tell whether or not something is BS.
Pleasantly surprised at this video.
This general rule should apply to everything. You should be analytical and constantly be willing to question your own views too.
This hits differently now 🤣
Thank you for the truth
Can't trust anyone and what they say. Even people closest to you. The only truth we know is our own.
Love Julia. Great host. It's about time an attractive woman not getting dressed up like she is doing a runway shoot with the look at me attitude. She is here to report the news; much respect!
I find the same holds true in Artist Statements.
I will be happy if Dnews says "Hello"
Good video! Thank you. One request: could you please speak a little more slowly? Sometimes I have trouble moving my mind quite that fast. This is especially true when (as is usually the case) you are saying something that requires a certain amount of thought to follow.
I need time to proccess things too and ponder them, I just keep my finger on the space bar to pause the video when I want, and arrow keys to go back in time a bit, easier than a mouse.
@@Siberius- how kind of you to help him out
If you can't explain it to a five-year-old, you don't understand it yourself. Thank you for sharing this DNews episode in PLAIN ENGLISH!
Dat intro... marvelous xDD
Nice cut to the intro!
Before I retried I played Buzz Word Bingo during some of our dumb ass meetings. I swear we had meetings just to plan meetings. The BS and Buzz Words flowed like water.
She cited a study... I don't know what to believe now...
I wish I was in USA and attend one of your these events. best of luck d news team
hows the form on my bench press vid?
People need to remember this when ever they argue about evolution or global climate change.
this is old news. Scientific American, Scientific Illustration and Wired all mentioned this year's ago. they also mentioned which countries were more prone to fudging the numbers
Where did you blow smoke up?
The how to tell someone is lying and subscription button thingy in the videos isnt working
"Ontological Confusion"
does anyone have a good definition or explanation for that term?
I've google up some references to "The Fullerton Ontological Confusion Scale", and a few papers steeped in jargon.
I can assume that it means something along the lines of "confusion regarding the nature of existence"... but I'd like to know what the actual measurement they are referring to is.
Thanks for reminding me how much I miss Tara
sounds like we need to change the process of "publish or parish" process, since its clearly the reason why we have this issue of fraudulent research
Sometimes I like to pretend I'm a worm under my covers.
Anybody can science, even without funding! I science things every weekend in my spare time. because, SCIENCE!! More research is needed :)
I wouldn't fake data to support my claim, but I never write my hypothesis until all of my data has been collected, then I formulate my hypothesis based on my data.
That's not how hypothesis works, that's how a theory works
When scientists talk about parallel universes or what goes on in a black hole things start sounding more like science fiction to me
My ego believes science because it needs to feel important.
Love the intro haha
This doesn't only apply to science, one should always question all things. We are for the most part, all capable of using critical thinking. Like Socrates once said "All i know, is that i don't know nothing".
I miss Tara for DNews! I miss Anthony too! I'm glad Trace is still here.
thank you for this video. finally some truth.
I don't know what to believe anymore!!!
I did this alot in high school and I regret it.
+ this is why I always use small, commonly used words when I'm explaining a point. Because my goal is for you to get my message, not think I'm some vocabulary genius or some shit like that 😂
This is why we have research journals. All published journals are scrutinized by academia, so being bullshitted by unofficial and disproven studies is really no-one's fault but your own.
I see those signs every time i read an article that favors meat, eggs and dairy.
+zukodude487987 Hi again :) and YUP!!!!
So should we trust the people telling us not to always trust the other people.
I thought the video was legit until I read the comments saying to question it. I feel trolled and I cant tell by who.
that intro though lol
Title should read why you shouldn't always trust marketing
Powdered alcohol, thorium-powered car, solar roadways, hoverboard
Sometimes I use bigger words to sound more photosynthesis
Thanks Julia, very spot on subject for this channel! Not that I think you're BS-ing us... Because you're not, right? Also, it's ok to call shit "shit".
there was this study that suggest that life began much more earlier than expected. i knew it was BS because they said life began around 4.1 billion years. i mean at that time i don't think that certain conditions would be meet for life to be sustained.
The ultimate video
So dilated pupils mean you are lying?
This whole time i have mistakenly thought my neighbor was on strong narcotics.
Now I know that he is just a liar.
Thanks!
that intro tho
Christians, "HA SO EVOLUTION IS A LIE!"
Atheists, 😩 "oh god damnit"
Evolution to a certain degree is a lie..it doesnt move as fast as the prestigous amazing scientist say. But its there unlike what some religous extremist might say
how do we solve it? any suggestions?
+David Lewis here is an idea, they could be required to use words that the listeners can understand :)
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance. Baffle them with bullshit.
Blowing smoke up my what?
fuck school ,I'm staying here listening to you guys 👌
There's a small but critical error in the title: it should be "why you shouldn't always trust scientists/scientific reports"
The scientific process itself is sound, it's just important to do properly.
"Trust half of what you see and none of what you hear."
Which Half! If I dont know which half. I can trust anything I see or here. AAAAAHHHHH! Its all an illusion
lmfaoo just the beginning caused me to like this video
And this is why scientific literacy is NECESSARY!
oh yeah you forgot to mention newspeak
Well... I was going to say my mind just got blown within the first 5sec. Then i got roasted XD
Off topic but I used to be deathly afraid of butterfly's when I was a child in Kindergarten
What the heck is "ontological confusion"?