Hey John, there’s a guy on U tube, his channel is called Old school Fishing and he’s a big advocate of using spoons and he dose extremely well catching Strippers!
And just like that, every spoon was sold out in the NorthEast! Mr Sinner is truly a legend and thumbs up for the captain, sacrificing his fishing opportunity to keep ‘em on the fish. Excellent work all around
I've watched just about every one of John's videos and at this point I'm convinced it's the stripers that are trying to catch John, not the other way around.
Everyone gets a little excited on TH-cam when it comes to fishing, nothing wrong with that. Once people watch more instructional videos like mine, I think they start to understand what's really going on with this platform. @@maritimeus
Heck of a Captain! I fish Muskies in Canada and the Nichol’s Magnum is MONEY! The spoon slips backwards as you ease the line. That is the allure to the fish. Most Folks can’t Jig as aggressively as needed while constantly feeling for the bottom. They are usually “done within 15-minutes. Sweet! I don’t fish heavy current so I use heavy duty spinning gear, cast, allow the lure to slide backwards till it just “ticks” bottom. I use white 30# braid and am a “line watcher”. Lure does get hung up at times but I have a 2-3oz. Lure Knockers that you clip on the line and allow it to slide to the line/lure connection. Jiggling usually releases the snagged lure. Be well and appreciate the video.
I've been using the Nichols spoons for several years. Although originally designed for largemouth bass, they can be ordered upgraded "saltwater" hardware. They have been amazing for redfish, jack crevalle and various other near shore species.
With spoons and slow pitch jigs like that, if you want the jig to drop down quicker you don't want to lower it with slack line because it will flutter all the way down and take forever to sink. Instead put a little thumb resistance on the spool and this will keep the jig straight up and down and sink much faster. It will keep it from fluttering
Awesome video John as always!!! Mike Smedley and Team Old School slaughter the Stripers on Nichols spoons in Raritan Bay and the Chesapeake even in shallow water. I just got one of the Nichols spoons and haven’t gotten a chance to use it yet.
That trip was quite an eye-opener. Couldn't believe I could get it to the bottom in the Gut with that depth and current. You have a great channel. One of the few fishing channels focused on being educational.
Just wow big stripers everywhere, great video Mr Skinner as always is a pleasure for me to see you fishing and teaching all those long years of experience
Well that was just insane. Who would have thought in a million years that a simple spoon would out fish, and out size anything else on the boat. Might have to try a variety of spoon sizes for some bottom fish like black sea bass/porgies. Great video as always.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing That's what I was thinking, I know those spoons work but I was like no effin way he's going to be able to hold near the bottom.....and then I realized this is a John Skinner video.
I use them on large spinning tackle for stripers where you can dump the line letting the spoon quickly get down to depth. Found you can have the spoon drop faster vertically with very slight finger resistance as it free spools down vs the normal jigging action of barrel rolling in complete free spool.
I was in a tackle shop today grabbing a few things and overheard one of the guys working there say he’s gotten about 150 phone calls in the last week from people asking about flutter spoons since you posted this video. Then he said “if I get one more f’n phone call about something from a John Skinner video I’m ripping the GD phone out of the wall, I f’n hate hearing that guy’s name”. I almost laughed out loud. Just picked up a copy of Fishing the Bucktail, great read so far. Thanks for all the informative videos! Apparently mentioning your name in a tackle shop is the equivalent of playing Stairway to Heaven at Guitar Center 😆🤣😂
I have been fishing the Nicholes for a few years now. Very effective spoon. 👌 You will find out the more you fish them, the bite usually happens on the way down. Great video👍
I saw this boat being launched at gull pond, nice young man had just tuned her up and improved the navionics for his dad. Man, what an awesome machine!
GREAT VIDEO JOHN WE HAVE BEEN USING THESE SPOONS THE MONTH OF JUNE IN THE WESTERN SOUND AND ME AND MY FISHING BUDDIES HAVE CAUGHT WELL OVER A 100 LARGE STRIPPED BASS EACH ON MY BOAT.
This is similar to some methods used in Canada and Midwest US in lakes when a full downrigger outfit is not feasible. Flutter spoon or large fly, enough lead to get close to bottom and careful throttle on the motor.
Mind blowing! Have you tried thumbing the spool as the spoon drops to try and keep it sinking with the hook end down and without fluttering? If you get the spoon to fall with tension you can get it going pretty fast. If you just let it fall without tension then it will definitely just flutter the whole way down. It’s a trick we use to get spoons deeper and faster to jig smallies. Depending on how much cup that spoon has, it might help you to get down faster. If it has a huge cup to it then maybe it probably won’t work well.
I didn't try that intentionally, although I think the current and line belly had that effect on this trip. I will definitely try thumbing going forward. Good tip!
John i wonder if you experimented adding a little weight to the top of the spoon like a trolling Drail? People who have fished the gut ( and Race ) know the tide gets ripping and holding bottom can be difficult. Obviously any weight u add may cause the spoon to stop fluttering properly.
And........ there goes one of my secrets when I used to spank 'em on the OBX.! Surf casting , Many good memories! 1997-2006, rip Last one on the massive spoon was 2005, reels n wheels striper tourney. Excellent John.
those fluttering spoons are amazing(also quite a workout) if you're on a boat using sonar, cause they're designed for the stripers to hit them on the way down as it's fluttering. bucktails are still more practical, especially for people that are fishing from shore.
Another great experiment for you would be to go back with black, white, glow, and chrome spoons if possible and do the same experiment as you did for the weakfish!
Not for nothing I have to be honest every time I skunk out all I have to do is watch one of your videos and bam puts me right back in the game mind set wise
I had the same success the very first time we went to Raritan Bay this spring. My buddy was like yea right a spoon? Good luck. First cast 32 pounder. He says you have another spoon for me. LOL
I've been killing them on the kayak with the magnum flutter spoons since last year and it's best with slow pitch rods and smaller 200/300 size baitcasting reels. Saves your arm from falling off while jigging all day.
Started using these in the Raritan in 2019 and they’re incredible. Usually fishing them a lot more shallow than this video (15-40’ or so) but it’s encouraging to see you can fish them deep too. Don’t worry - you’ll still be able to bucktail them in the surf 😳.
WOW....thats impressive!! ive never tried a large spoon before....curious how it will work out in the northeast!!! great video sir keep up the excellent work!!
Amazing fishing! You need to fix that drag, it is so uneven. Take it apart, clean and deburr the disks, put graphite powder between the layers when you put it back again. Then you will have a butter smooth drag.
My guess is the slack spoon turned edge into the current allowing it to mostly be unaffected other than some fluttering on the way down. Any sort of pressure would try to lay it flat and likely make it scope way out.
This style of fishing seems similar to flatfall/ vertical jigging/ yoyoing that I see for Blue Fin and Yellowtail on the west coast. I wonder if there is any cross over
I've been crushing it in the western sound this year all on 9in ben parker spoons, bass to 30lbs and havent got skunked in last 6 outings . Learned this tactic of fishing from Mike smeedly's youtube page he's been using them for years .
Hi skinner.. loved the video. I find that if you thumb spool very lightly on the way down, the spoon will go down very quickly.. in other words don't let it flutter all the way down.. thanks for the video really enjoyed it...
Yeah .. like I said I've been using them for two seasons already and I absolutely love the ..at first I was getting frustrated because they were taking too long to get down..but I realized that if you don't let them flutter they will go down very quickly and straight..let me know if it works for you ..
John, I loved this video. How do you tie these rigs on to your main line? leaders? snaps? Swivels? Knots? Presuming my main line is 40# braid, would you use a different leader material and if so, what? How would you connect the braid to the leader? How would you connect the leader to the jig?
Hey John, there’s a guy on U tube, his channel is called Old school Fishing and he’s a big advocate of using spoons and he dose extremely well catching Strippers!
And just like that, every spoon was sold out in the NorthEast! Mr Sinner is truly a legend and thumbs up for the captain, sacrificing his fishing opportunity to keep ‘em on the fish. Excellent work all around
That was a good one I spit my food out and just like that hahahahahha
They are sold out lmao
I've watched just about every one of John's videos and at this point I'm convinced it's the stripers that are trying to catch John, not the other way around.
All that fluff and John hasn’t responded to your comment yet (June 2023). Hmmm. I guess he doesn’t want to go on a date with you 😂
Everyone gets a little excited on TH-cam when it comes to fishing, nothing wrong with that. Once people watch more instructional videos like mine, I think they start to understand what's really going on with this platform. @@maritimeus
Heck of a Captain!
I fish Muskies in Canada and the Nichol’s Magnum is MONEY!
The spoon slips backwards as you ease the line. That is the allure to the fish.
Most Folks can’t Jig as aggressively as needed while constantly feeling for the bottom. They are usually “done within 15-minutes. Sweet!
I don’t fish heavy current so I use heavy duty spinning gear, cast, allow the lure to slide backwards till it just “ticks” bottom. I use white 30# braid and am a “line watcher”. Lure does get hung up at times but I have a 2-3oz. Lure Knockers that you clip on the line and allow it to slide to the line/lure connection. Jiggling usually releases the snagged lure.
Be well and appreciate the video.
Great trip. It was amazing watching John reel in one fish after another with his rod and the new spoon.
I dont think those stripers are starving & underfed,LOLLL!
I've been using the Nichols spoons for several years. Although originally designed for largemouth bass, they can be ordered upgraded "saltwater" hardware. They have been amazing for redfish, jack crevalle and various other near shore species.
With spoons and slow pitch jigs like that, if you want the jig to drop down quicker you don't want to lower it with slack line because it will flutter all the way down and take forever to sink. Instead put a little thumb resistance on the spool and this will keep the jig straight up and down and sink much faster. It will keep it from fluttering
Good to know.
YOU ARE THE BEST!
Thank you so much for amazing video
you can buy the Tony Maja Custom Drift Spoon from amazon
Awesome video John as always!!! Mike Smedley and Team Old School slaughter the Stripers on Nichols spoons in Raritan Bay and the Chesapeake even in shallow water. I just got one of the Nichols spoons and haven’t gotten a chance to use it yet.
I was fooling around casting one, thinking it would be a disaster but I could cast it ten yards without much effort.
The LEGEND, John Skinner whacking em on the flutter spoon!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍😁
That trip was quite an eye-opener. Couldn't believe I could get it to the bottom in the Gut with that depth and current. You have a great channel. One of the few fishing channels focused on being educational.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing Thanks brother!!! That really means a lot coming from you! Your videos are legendary! 🙏🙏🙏🙏😁
What depth do you think fish can no longer see the action of a lure? I have to think at 90 there’s little light getting down there.
Just wow big stripers everywhere, great video Mr Skinner as always is a pleasure for me to see you fishing and teaching all those long years of experience
@John Skinner Fishing for someone who's never fished a spoon before, you doing quite good brother. Keep at it you're catching nice stripers
yes! John Skinner spoons!!!!! that's what we need!
What a trip. One thing important to note is the Gut and the Race are holding a body of bass not seen in decades right now.
9:13 to 14 .. line goes completely SLACK just after John is saying he just got hit and thought he missed it ... LOL
Well that was just insane. Who would have thought in a million years that a simple spoon would out fish, and out size anything else on the boat. Might have to try a variety of spoon sizes for some bottom fish like black sea bass/porgies. Great video as always.
I'm surprised it even got to the bottom in the gut in 90+ feet with a full moon current.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing That's what I was thinking, I know those spoons work but I was like no effin way he's going to be able to hold near the bottom.....and then I realized this is a John Skinner video.
Face it guys. It’s not the spoon - it’s skinner.
I use them on large spinning tackle for stripers where you can dump the line letting the spoon quickly get down to depth. Found you can have the spoon drop faster vertically with very slight finger resistance as it free spools down vs the normal jigging action of barrel rolling in complete free spool.
I was in a tackle shop today grabbing a few things and overheard one of the guys working there say he’s gotten about 150 phone calls in the last week from people asking about flutter spoons since you posted this video. Then he said “if I get one more f’n phone call about something from a John Skinner video I’m ripping the GD phone out of the wall, I f’n hate hearing that guy’s name”. I almost laughed out loud. Just picked up a copy of Fishing the Bucktail, great read so far. Thanks for all the informative videos! Apparently mentioning your name in a tackle shop is the equivalent of playing Stairway to Heaven at Guitar Center 😆🤣😂
Freshwater spoon fan here, and it's a joy seeing such large saltwater stripers being brought up on big spoons.
Smoothest product placement ever
I have been fishing the Nicholes for a few years now. Very effective spoon. 👌 You will find out the more you fish them, the bite usually happens on the way down. Great video👍
Awesome job Rick.
I saw this boat being launched at gull pond, nice young man had just tuned her up and improved the navionics for his dad. Man, what an awesome machine!
Just received your new book and this is the first QR code I HAD to watch. Can’t wait to start reading!
People really like that I embed the QR codes. Enjoy!
@@JohnSkinnerFishing That was a really great idea!
GREAT VIDEO JOHN WE HAVE BEEN USING THESE SPOONS THE MONTH OF JUNE IN THE WESTERN SOUND AND ME AND MY FISHING BUDDIES HAVE CAUGHT WELL OVER A 100 LARGE STRIPPED BASS EACH ON MY BOAT.
John that was impressive... Really nice bass! Thanks for sharing. Team Old School would agree...
John accidentally dropped the spoon down his boot, and when he pulled it out, had a #30 Bass on..👍🏻👍🏻🤩🤩
This is similar to some methods used in Canada and Midwest US in lakes when a full downrigger outfit is not feasible.
Flutter spoon or large fly, enough lead to get close to bottom and careful throttle on the motor.
Mind blowing! Have you tried thumbing the spool as the spoon drops to try and keep it sinking with the hook end down and without fluttering? If you get the spoon to fall with tension you can get it going pretty fast. If you just let it fall without tension then it will definitely just flutter the whole way down.
It’s a trick we use to get spoons deeper and faster to jig smallies. Depending on how much cup that spoon has, it might help you to get down faster. If it has a huge cup to it then maybe it probably won’t work well.
I didn't try that intentionally, although I think the current and line belly had that effect on this trip. I will definitely try thumbing going forward. Good tip!
Wow...even John Skinner learns new things about fishing! Last year was big spooks, this year big spoons!
John i wonder if you experimented adding a little weight to the top of the spoon like a trolling Drail? People who have fished the gut ( and Race ) know the tide gets ripping and holding bottom can be difficult. Obviously any weight u add may cause the spoon to stop fluttering properly.
Awesome fishing...that "spoon" is a must have for the arsenal
And........
there goes one of my secrets when I used to spank 'em on the OBX.!
Surf casting , Many good memories!
1997-2006, rip
Last one on the massive spoon was 2005, reels n wheels striper tourney.
Excellent John.
Man I could feel those head shakes, well done
Good morning from Philippines. I always enjoy your video. Keep safe and God bless always 🐟⛵
We've been using big spoons here in Kansas for as long as I can remember for Stripers. I first learned about them back in the early 80's.
Always learning. Traits of a Master.
I agree 100%. The hardest part is feeling when you hit the bottom, especially on a drift… I lost a $27 spoon the other day! 😡
those fluttering spoons are amazing(also quite a workout) if you're on a boat using sonar, cause they're designed for the stripers to hit them on the way down as it's fluttering. bucktails are still more practical, especially for people that are fishing from shore.
Time to forge the John Skinner spoon! Consider this me pre-ordering.
John, im pretty sure you can put a coffee mug with no hooks down and you would catch fish. Great video as always.
Another great experiment for you would be to go back with black, white, glow, and chrome spoons if possible and do the same experiment as you did for the weakfish!
Awesome man. Love it. Thanks for sharing.
thank John, I love your videos!!!
Longfall jigging with a slow pitch jig produces similar results in 120 to 300ft over structure in Southeast Fla.
You’re fishing my fav spot, we’re in Westbrook leave a few for us….lol tight lines Frank!
It's 2022 times have change in with the new and out with old John skinner spoons are gonna be a hit 🤣🔥
dream day Skinner
You sure makes you look like Superman out there man you the man
Not for nothing I have to be honest every time I skunk out all I have to do is watch one of your videos and bam puts me right back in the game mind set wise
We used to use big krocodile spoons in NJ doing the same thing. Sadly, they’re no longer available.
Thanks for your video 👍
I had the same success the very first time we went to Raritan Bay this spring. My buddy was like yea right a spoon? Good luck. First cast 32 pounder. He says you have another spoon for me. LOL
Thanks John I have one of those Thundermist Lures Spoons. I wonder will I get to apply it with more education. Also those T-turn swivels.
I've been killing them on the kayak with the magnum flutter spoons since last year and it's best with slow pitch rods and smaller 200/300 size baitcasting reels. Saves your arm from falling off while jigging all day.
Rod sold out already! Congrats!
That was fun and video too short. Rick is the good dude to keep you guys on the fish.
"Ho-lee sh*t. Looka the size a-dat thing!" My favorite part.
Wow amazing fishing my friend 👍
We been using flutter spoons for trout for decades. It mimics dying baitfish. It catches all game fish when u adjust the weight.
Amazing video. Thanks for sharing, John. I hope to see more of these spoons from you
HAMMER TIME! GREAT TRIP!
It’s a dream of me to one day fish with a LEGEND like you sir. I am new to fishing and love your videos, so informative and fun to watch :-)
Started using these in the Raritan in 2019 and they’re incredible. Usually fishing them a lot more shallow than this video (15-40’ or so) but it’s encouraging to see you can fish them deep too. Don’t worry - you’ll still be able to bucktail them in the surf 😳.
How shallow can you use them? And what weight line do you need. Can you drift with them. I'm in the barnegat bay.
thats honestly incredible
👍 big fish after big fish cool video
Holy, this was satisfying!
In heavy current I use a In line sinker top of the spoon to my line work well for me.
That's savage!!!👏👏👏
great video I love the fishing content!!!! :))))
Speechless, I'd like to see you do this in your kayak now John. Haha way to go really nice fish and rod buddy!!
Linecounter braid or reel
Ahern tackle makes an 11 inch 6.5 ounce flutter spoon for the deep drops!
Amazing catch, what a fishing trip!!!
WOW....thats impressive!! ive never tried a large spoon before....curious how it will work out in the northeast!!! great video sir keep up the excellent work!!
Amazing fishing! You need to fix that drag, it is so uneven. Take it apart, clean and deburr the disks, put graphite powder between the layers when you put it back again. Then you will have a butter smooth drag.
Wow now that was the best I've seen you do. That was awesome fishing Skinner. 🔥🔥🔥
My guess is the slack spoon turned edge into the current allowing it to mostly be unaffected other than some fluttering on the way down. Any sort of pressure would try to lay it flat and likely make it scope way out.
Awesome video John! Wow.
Mr. Skinner, how are you tying that spoon? What is the best way to tie it? Would you kindly upload a video?
This style of fishing seems similar to flatfall/ vertical jigging/ yoyoing that I see for Blue Fin and Yellowtail on the west coast. I wonder if there is any cross over
Nice to see those big stripers. Look pretty healthy; might need a bigger net!
Great day on the water John. Ive had success with flutter spoons as well this year but havent had a day like THAT yet!
I've been crushing it in the western sound this year all on 9in ben parker spoons, bass to 30lbs and havent got skunked in last 6 outings . Learned this tactic of fishing from Mike smeedly's youtube page he's been using them for years .
the only thing more exciting that this is my new sci-fi novel, Book of Answers
Awesome videos. We use the same size flutter spoons for our fresh water largemouth bass here in California too.
Must be some serious largemouths!
The large spoons originate from largemouth fishing
Hi skinner.. loved the video. I find that if you thumb spool very lightly on the way down, the spoon will go down very quickly.. in other words don't let it flutter all the way down.. thanks for the video really enjoyed it...
Thanks for that tip! I wondered if there was some way to coax it into behaving.
Yeah .. like I said I've been using them for two seasons already and I absolutely love the ..at first I was getting frustrated because they were taking too long to get down..but I realized that if you don't let them flutter they will go down very quickly and straight..let me know if it works for you ..
Does the spoon need to touch the bottom? Is there a benefit to touching down or can you save tackle by not quite hitting it?
Hitting bottom once in a while is how I know I'm near bottom.
Fishing with VInnie of the karen anne in Jamaica bay it was just like this..my first time using the flutter spoon too
Mind blowing.
Good job man!
Amazing John one of your best videos. Congratulations from Giovanni, Western Long Island sound.
Been using for FW stripers for 3 or 4 yrs. Very effective
Guess I'll be buying some Skinner flutter spoons for the fall
Upgrade the hook and use a swivel. Sometimes you can lose some without the swivel.
Nice fishing! Feel like something is working to increase the Striper population!
John, I loved this video. How do you tie these rigs on to your main line? leaders? snaps? Swivels? Knots? Presuming my main line is 40# braid, would you use a different leader material and if so, what? How would you connect the braid to the leader? How would you connect the leader to the jig?
30-pound braid through a swivel to 5 feet of 80# leader tied direct to spoon.
So its like a giant flat slow pitch jig
John - shorter movements in rod i have found works better.