In some schools, if you don't pass the baby bar, you aren't allowed to continue onto year two of lawschool. Of course, that's irrelevant in this case, but it just shows how important the exam is.
@@robgronotte1 - I had to actually look up baby bar requirements here because I didn't have to take it in my law school. So, those that have to take the baby bar are those who went to unaccredited lawschools or go thru law office study programs (like Kim Kardassian). If she doesn't pass within 3 times, she loses the credit from the law office study program and has to start over her time there.
She could've just cheated her way through, she's hella rich. But she chose to study. Even if she didn't pass the first time, I applaud her and encourage her to try again!
@Honey Badger you know there are more than two absolute outcomes? she studied, she tried, and it might have not been enough but she still tried her best, it's not up to you to judge her for no reason other than envy
Fingers crossed. Not a fan of the Kardashians (not because I hate them, but because I’m not really into fashion and stuff) but I admire anyone trying to better themselves. Maybe one day she’ll be as good as her dad.
I don’t know much about that family (or care about them) but it’s incredibly clear they all work their ass off doing whatever they’re doing. Can’t be critical of that.
She’s “trying” in the path of least resistance way…i know law school isn’t the best way to learn about being a lawyer(I know weird right) but they do teach you how to “study” like a lawyer, and how to work tirelessly for a lot of hours. Kim hasn’t work tirelessly in her entire existence, she just wants to skip the line and be a “lawyer” just like daddy…pathetic really.
Kim took the California bar, which is notoriously difficult (even the "baby bar" exam). There are people who graduated at the top of Ivy League law schools who had to take the full California bar multiple times to pass it. The pass rate for people taking the same exam as Kim is about 27%, so it's a tough nut to crack.
AND she came SO CLOSE to passing it on her FIRST TRY. She didn't miss by a mile, she fell short by two inches. That's like shooting for the moon and landing somewhere in outer space. People go to ivy League schools, take the bar, and don't even leave the atmosphere. I really hope she keeps trying.
@@Shrimpyyyyyyyy That's heartbreaking. :( I'm certain if her father had lived to see her go, he would be so proud of how hard she worked and how hard she tried. She started the apprenticeship as a married mogul mother of like two. Now she's a single divorcée, mogul mother of three. Despite all the challenges, she worked hard and came this far. If she keeps going, she'll pass the BAR for sure! I hope she doesn't give up.
@@SakuraMoonflower if he dad lived, she would have had different guidance too. Might have been a successful lawyer years ago, but maybe not a near billionaire and global household name and brand that enriched her entire family.
You’re right about the CA bar being notoriously difficult , which is usually around 50% or lower pass rate, but the baby bar low pass rate is likely bc you have people from unaccredited schools taking it, so the quality and competency of that pool is waaaaay lower since those are usually students that couldn’t get into accredited law schools. I’m obviously generalizing but don’t give her that much credit. And it’s not as if she didn’t have top attorneys from top firms tutoring her the whole way through. Her ass should’ve passed. Guess I can’t hate though since I’m not a billionaire 😬
@@gasun1274 Ah, literally 2 options you presented as a blanket assumption for an entire population. Your word should be respected to the utmost extent with such du diligence for the truth you put in.
@Joshua Hammond The trait is passed down. It's in the father's genes that what being a lawyer entails will be in at least 1 of the his offspring. Not guaranteed, but very likely.
If she was close to passing, she definitely has been trying and she can definitely pass it on retake. Everyone should definitely applaud any self-improvement efforts, regardless of the persona.
The episode of KUWTK where she talks about failing which was just released was actually filmed in October 2020. Even though the exam is only given Twice a year, there was another administration after this was filmed in Nov 2020, with the results released in Feb 21. If she had passed that retake, I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t have let all the “Kim failed” memes from this past week happen without comment.
Well, I was very close to passing my South Korean permanent residency program exam the first time, and then did a lot worse the second time. So it depends. But I hope she kills it on re-take.
@Coding Crusader or possibly we need to rehabilitate people, especially non-violent offenders, treat mental health problems and addictions with mental health and addiction treatment instead, and stop giving extreme sentences for minor crimes and first time offenders. We have one of, if not the, highest amount of prisoners and women in prisons than other first world countries. It’s nearly impossible for criminals to make it because of the restrictions, difficulty in getting housing and a job, and the fees due immediately upon release, unless they have someone to support them when they get out. No, I’ve never been to jail or prison, never been arrested and have never received even a traffic ticket, but prison reform is a must in this country.
I honestly respect her so much for even trying. Her failing and then going on to pass would really be very impactful on the kids and fans instead of promoting unhealthy obsessions with surgical enhancements to fit into a beauty standard they created and cant even fit in. I would love to watch her study methods and journey to passing instead of those fake episodes on the show
I'm sorry but she has *all* the best resources you could ever imagine, money to afford the best tutors, go to the top law schools, study at the highest levels yet she didn't pass the exam?!
@@spicemelange92 more so that kim has done certain things and people have set their expectations accordingly. Not really an insult. Its her own fault for people regarding her in such low esteem.
She could have easily edited that part out of the episode since she is an executive producer but she left it in and is trying again, showing us the ups and downs and i commend her for that. Truly inspiring
I actually really appreciate her putting in all this effort. With all the money, connections, and clout she has she could afford to take on cases that most lawyers wouldn't touch. Here's to hoping more people follow in her footsteps!
You really think she would do that? You really see an altruistic person in her? This is just to ensure that when she is older and all that plastic surgery leaves her looking like a train wreck and she has run her course of her vulgar fame, that she has a source of revenue. Also we have enough people following in her footsteps already as a lot of young girls and women actually try to be like her, which offers not her but materialism and baseness. She is a disgrace to the name of women, so lets hope we don’t have more people follow in the footsteps of this piece of trash but encourage them to look up to smart, clever women like scientists and people like Elizabeth Warren.
I'm actually really surprised at this. Good for her, trying to follow in dad's footsteps. If she only just failed, she's obviously putting in some effort. Here's to her passing it and moving forward from there, and finally getting to where she wants to be!
I'll admit, when celebrity stories like this originally break, I usually just the them out. I have zero interest in celebrity shenanigans. As such, I totally discounted Kim's sim to become a lawyer as more celebrity stunting. It sounds like I sold her short. Most celebrities are probably very talented people, who seem to use their talents to gain acclaim in not very significant endeavors. Hopefully she wishes with it, and actually does she good in the world.
And she is in a family that wouldn't be called, the brightest bunch. But it sounds like she is trying to better herself especially since she dropped that trash bag of a husband.
She’s trying to become a lawyer when in 2016 she recorded and posted a phone call of a conversation and didn’t get the second parties consent - which is literally illegal in California 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
If anything the score she got shows she’s taking this seriously. For all that this seems like something out of a meme I’m rooting for her to stick with this and be in a position do some real good.
Honestly, I’m kinda rooting for her. I think she actually has a lot to offer based on some of the things she had done that have not been reality tv based. The baby bar is no picnic, so try again.
It's admiring her learning journey, it's not easy, and more so her being in the spotlight, how people may shame her and yet keeping her head up and I hope she keeps pushing forward
I feel like that's the closest degree in genuinity for a situation like this. Not passing means people won't just say you used your money and connections to become a lawyer, but almost passing means that you did actually put in a good amount of effort, meaning you didn't just take the test just to say to people that you took the test
It's nice to see that he's being genuinely kind and supportive. A lot of people would probably just mock or belittle her for even trying to become a lawyer, so it's refreshing to see a fully qualified lawyer encouraging her to be just a bit more than the Kardashian name.
Everything I know about the Kardashians I learned against my will. However, I agree, kudos to Kim. I hope she keeps trying and is able to make a difference
I gotta say if she's being genuine that's great good to see her working at something not relying on the family name either by itself to sell products like most of that family.
I think she is pretty genuine about this cause. Most people didnt even know how heavily involved she was until maybe 2019 I think. When Trump passed something that helped a bunch of inmates get released who were charged for non violent petty drug offenses which was backed by Kim. She helped fund their reformation and reentry into the outside and helped them find their family. I remember looking this up when it happened because I remember people talking shit about her because she was hanging out with trump a lot, and found this out when the news broke.
The baby BAR is EXACTLY like the real BAR, except for the subjects that can appear. Instead of there being 15 subjects, there are only 3. So passing it is actually challenging. In some law schools, if you don't pass the baby bar, you have to keep taking it before they let you continue onto year two of lawschool.
Even a lightened version of the bar exam as the baby bar exam with just apprenticeship and self study especially when you add in all the other full time career stuff is going to be hard af. People struggle and fail the full one with years of law school and tons of self study before the full one then still have to retake.
Yet there are still 10x as many lawyers as needed in the US, 50x as many as in any other country. Clearly, an overpopulated field, while work that needs to be done is left begging for help. Shame on her and her shyster, grifter family.
@@nora22000 have you even looked into what type of law she is working in? It's certainly not for ppl suing each other. It's to help overturn LIFE sentences given to ppl for non violent crimes, like a woman given life for selling weed. Another case she worked on and helped to get overturned was for a man who was wrongfully convicted and imprisoned for life, though there was evidence showing he couldn't have been involved. These are the cases she works on. Not a rich socialite suing her plastic surgeon for a botched nose job, or helping a wife in a divorce take her husband for all he's worth. I'm far from a leftist, and I'm not far right either...definitely more moderate, but I can give credit where credit is due. She has star power, and she is using it towards criminal justice reform, which our country does need. 🤷♀️
I, for one, am actually rather suprised by the upbeat and non-judgmental tone of this short, i was honestly half-expecting a "point and laugh" piece, but that might be because, i will admit on reflection, because i was both judging devlin by the rather low standards of most social media, and Kim for trying in the 1st place becuase honestly, I had wrote it off as some weird PR thing than a genuine attempt at passing the bar. clearly, i need to work on my judgements
Even tho I’m not a huge fan of the Kardashians or the Jenners, I honestly hope this works out for her. She deserves to have this after the hell she has been through. I honestly think she can do some really amazing work when it’s the work *SHE WANTS TO DO* and not work that’s forced on her from everyone else. I honestly think she can do it, and I hope she does bc she deserves to be happy.
I think it's really cool that she's clearly putting the work in and being public about this journey not only because I think she'll be a good lawyer but also because she is exposing a lot of young people to the process of becoming a lawyer and giving them a mainstream role model
She doesn’t have an undergraduate degree either, so she wouldn’t be eligible for acceptance at an accredited school. Not to mention, the ABA has pretty strict attendance standards at accredited schools, making it difficult to fit in with her demanding schedule.
Not everyone does well in school and learns better with hands on training. The question isn't why she doesn't go to an accredited law school... the question is why there aren't more options for getting a professional license OTHER than going to school to help those that just don't do well with the school environment.
she literally also does that. and she has successfully campaigned for the release of black men who have been in prison for decades for non violent drug offenses, and has aided in pushing for law changes regarding maximum sentences for non violent drug crimes in california. she's certainly done more good that you have, i'm guessing.
@@shadycatz85 That's all great, but imagine how much more could be done with even just 1% of her wealth. More pro-bono lawyers can be applied to cases, bail funds for activists, etc. I argue that if she really into prison abolition, it would be much faster if she donated to orgs that already have the people and resources to get work done efficiently
More industries need to use apprenticeship programs. Good for the employer, as they get work done at a reduced rate, and good for the apprentice. Especially if they find out they hate the job, then you don't have mountains of dept for a poor, uninformed choice.
@AeonReign I agree that apprenticeships can create great opportunities however I feel like the way our society currently executes them is not efficient. Originally apprenticeships had a lot more benefits than they do now. I understand that the cheap labor is supposed to be a motivating factor for the company, but it isn't sustainable in the long term on a macro scale. What should be the motivating factor for a business is having an employee they only have to train once for the next several years or even decades for one position which alone saves them tons of money on turn over rate. I think perhaps a contract stating that the apprentice agrees to provided services for a certain amount of time in an apprenticeship, as well as covering the benefits for the apprentice from the employer, like on job training, medical benefits, incrementally increasing salary, and opportunities for growth, would be a more societally beneficial system.
I believe he was originally licensed in CA. They have a first time pass rate of 44%. But it should be noted that CA has one of the hardest bar exams in the country.
Does anyone know the statistics on those who fail the first time but pass the 2nd or 3rd? Do not give up. (And I too was waiting for "we'll see her in court."
About 20% pass the baby BAR each time it's taken. That's a mix of first time and repeat takers. In some schools, you aren't allowed to continue to the second year of lawschool until you pass.
Detailed statistics are posted on the CA Bar website. Under Bar rules (not particular law school rules), if you don’t pass by the third “opportunity” you lose credit for everything beyond your first year of study and can’t continue until you pass.
I honestly think it's really cool that shes legit putting in work to try and make a difference. It would be so easy for her to just coast on her money and tweet out progressive hashtags for clout but it seems like she genuinely cares. Glad this vid recognizes this ✨ also i can't believe im posting something positive about a Kardashian lol
Would you recommend using the apprenticeship program in Vermont instead of going to law school? I personally learn better through doing than listening anyways plus no debt sounds like a good thing
Probably figures, special rules for special people. She's also "busy". Most everyone is "busy", and that doesn't bode well for future clients that she is so "busy".
@@jennifervalentine8955 Law isn't all about serving clients. There are lots of ways she can work in advocacy otherwise. I don't know much about her or her agenda but to imply that lawyers just serve clients and do all their work through that context is just not correct.
Going to law school would expose her professors and classmates to a variety of harassment. Media trying to sneak into classes; bribing anyone on group projects to share her work; breaking into offices to scoop final grades before they're announced to the students... I'm sure there are other things I'm not thinking of, but it wouldn't be good for the university.
Cuz this is all a big stunt to hype up her brand and make more money. Wouldn’t she need to go to college get a degree and then go to law school? Why spend a decade doing that when posting pics in bikinis is your day job?
@@SuperKing604 Because sometimes people care about doing interesting things ... And it's kinda scary that this needs to be pointed out to you. Your level of cynicism isn't healthy. If I had 100 million dollars suddenly tomorrow I'd still go to med school, hell I'd be thrilled at how much easier it would be to go
to be fair, i have read a good number of comments so far and i still didnt find a single one that is negative.. they are all pretty much similar to yours
I haven't had much respect for her past endeavours but I do respect her efforts to become a lawyer, especially as it seems she isn't taking any sort of easy way out. Good luck to her.
Someone should pitch a reality show where we see the works she puts into this. Whoever is teaching her gives her assignments, we see her process, they show the books she's using, and the episode ends with her doing her presentation of assignment. We could call it Kardashian Law.
you can be in a position to do something useful. look up mutual aid, workers co-ops, and grassroot homeless charities in your town. donations and stuff are nice and all, but these orgs need boots on the ground
Yeah I'm rooting for her too! While I'm not too interested in the Kardashians, she has proven to be an advocate for criminal justice reform that I can applaud.
I don’t have strong feelings either way for her and her family but I did think it was kinda cool when I saw back then that she was doing this. She has already helped people and shined light on major issues, her dad was a lawyer obviously. I hope she does try again. Not passing a test sucks but it’s not the end of the world and doesn’t mean she can’t do it.
This is just terrible. We shouldn't be serving drinks to babies.
Maybe it's like a sports bar (drink while being entertained by babies) or a tequila bar (but will it blend?)
Except when they're teething. Then it's time to teach your baby how to do a keg stand.
Or make candy out of babies. (Chocolate bar, baby bar, see where that is going?)
Should they be *barred* from drinking?
Chill, it’s just the milk bar
I can't believe they actually call it the baby bar exam, that's such an adorable and mildly condescending name
“Baby bar” is just the informal colloquial term. The actual name of the exam is “First Year Law Students Examination” (FYLSE).
In some schools, if you don't pass the baby bar, you aren't allowed to continue onto year two of lawschool. Of course, that's irrelevant in this case, but it just shows how important the exam is.
@@rekcusdoo so why did she need to take the exam, and why would she take it again? That wasn't made clear.
@@robgronotte1 - I had to actually look up baby bar requirements here because I didn't have to take it in my law school. So, those that have to take the baby bar are those who went to unaccredited lawschools or go thru law office study programs (like Kim Kardassian). If she doesn't pass within 3 times, she loses the credit from the law office study program and has to start over her time there.
@@rekcusdoo Since she only took it once, I think, she could most definitely try again.
I just found this video again and apparently Kim did keep up the effort - she passed in December 2021 on her fourth attempt!
Good for her!
4 attempts... I respect the determination and glad for her eventually success
Yeah. I was about to say the same thing.
@@cebokhumalo602It took my cousin Vinny six times. So she's still 50% faster than he was.
At least she did it on her own. Congratulations.
She could've just cheated her way through, she's hella rich. But she chose to study. Even if she didn't pass the first time, I applaud her and encourage her to try again!
@Honey Badger what
@@wumpoooo lol they just only read the first two sentences and needed to say something to fee heard/seen. Nothing to see here😂
@@mtoboggan2364 exactly lmao. its like teacher in school saying "well youre a complete failure but you didnt cheat so you get a+"
@Honey Badger so you think a lawyer is that easy that if you study you'll just pass? Maybe not studying hard enough sure, but not studying???
@Honey Badger you know there are more than two absolute outcomes? she studied, she tried, and it might have not been enough but she still tried her best, it's not up to you to judge her for no reason other than envy
Being a lawyer is hard. The fact she was close to passing says a lot about her dedication. If she persists she will get it
Fingers crossed. Not a fan of the Kardashians (not because I hate them, but because I’m not really into fashion and stuff) but I admire anyone trying to better themselves. Maybe one day she’ll be as good as her dad.
Her dad was a legendary lawyer he somehow got OJ free, she has to atleast be smarter than the average person.
Who said she came close to passing? Her reps?
@@noelstar1456 again. It was a BABY BAR EXAM. It probably wasn't that hard. 😂😂😂
You think she’d tell you if she tanked it lol please! If she was close to passing she’d take it again she seemed serious
I think nothing of the Kardashians. But if she's honestly trying, I have to give her credit.
It's quite a turn. She looks like she is taking it seriously.
I think now that she doesn’t have the cloud of Kanye over her she’ll do better next time around.
I don’t know much about that family (or care about them) but it’s incredibly clear they all work their ass off doing whatever they’re doing. Can’t be critical of that.
She’s “trying” in the path of least resistance way…i know law school isn’t the best way to learn about being a lawyer(I know weird right) but they do teach you how to “study” like a lawyer, and how to work tirelessly for a lot of hours. Kim hasn’t work tirelessly in her entire existence, she just wants to skip the line and be a “lawyer” just like daddy…pathetic really.
@@hunterwyeth yes I can, what is their “work”?
Kim took the California bar, which is notoriously difficult (even the "baby bar" exam). There are people who graduated at the top of Ivy League law schools who had to take the full California bar multiple times to pass it. The pass rate for people taking the same exam as Kim is about 27%, so it's a tough nut to crack.
AND she came SO CLOSE to passing it on her FIRST TRY. She didn't miss by a mile, she fell short by two inches. That's like shooting for the moon and landing somewhere in outer space. People go to ivy League schools, take the bar, and don't even leave the atmosphere. I really hope she keeps trying.
Wow I didn’t know that. I remember Kim saying her Dad passed it on the first try.
@@Shrimpyyyyyyyy That's heartbreaking. :( I'm certain if her father had lived to see her go, he would be so proud of how hard she worked and how hard she tried. She started the apprenticeship as a married mogul mother of like two. Now she's a single divorcée, mogul mother of three. Despite all the challenges, she worked hard and came this far.
If she keeps going, she'll pass the BAR for sure! I hope she doesn't give up.
@@SakuraMoonflower if he dad lived, she would have had different guidance too. Might have been a successful lawyer years ago, but maybe not a near billionaire and global household name and brand that enriched her entire family.
You’re right about the CA bar being notoriously difficult , which is usually around 50% or lower pass rate, but the baby bar low pass rate is likely bc you have people from unaccredited schools taking it, so the quality and competency of that pool is waaaaay lower since those are usually students that couldn’t get into accredited law schools. I’m obviously generalizing but don’t give her that much credit. And it’s not as if she didn’t have top attorneys from top firms tutoring her the whole way through. Her ass should’ve passed. Guess I can’t hate though since I’m not a billionaire 😬
Knowing that her father was a lawyer, it shouldn't come as a surprise that she's interested in becoming one herself.
well she's armenian so there's that. you either become a lawyer and run a successful firm or you don't become a lawyer and run a successful business
@@gasun1274 Ah, literally 2 options you presented as a blanket assumption for an entire population. Your word should be respected to the utmost extent with such du diligence for the truth you put in.
@Joshua Hammond The trait is passed down. It's in the father's genes that what being a lawyer entails will be in at least 1 of the his offspring. Not guaranteed, but very likely.
Ech, without her father being a lawyer no one would have cared that she existed in the first place.
@@luxuryxcoffin What does that have to do with her dad's genes being passed down and the likely reason why she feels a calling to become a lawyer?
You really didn't go for
"I hope that she continues her studies, so we can see her, in court"
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wah wah wahhhhhh
I came here to make this comment - how dare you make it before me!
@@ScottHebert604 ? Why are mocking this person when thay weren't complaining? Like, at all???
Much like Kim, Devan came very close but missed it by that much
If she was close to passing, she definitely has been trying and she can definitely pass it on retake. Everyone should definitely applaud any self-improvement efforts, regardless of the persona.
She's trying to become a lawyer specifically to be a better advocate for criminal justice reform, so we can applaud her motivation as well.
The episode of KUWTK where she talks about failing which was just released was actually filmed in October 2020. Even though the exam is only given Twice a year, there was another administration after this was filmed in Nov 2020, with the results released in Feb 21. If she had passed that retake, I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t have let all the “Kim failed” memes from this past week happen without comment.
Well, I was very close to passing my South Korean permanent residency program exam the first time, and then did a lot worse the second time. So it depends. But I hope she kills it on re-take.
From a Kardashian, this is already a big achievement.
@Coding Crusader or possibly we need to rehabilitate people, especially non-violent offenders, treat mental health problems and addictions with mental health and addiction treatment instead, and stop giving extreme sentences for minor crimes and first time offenders. We have one of, if not the, highest amount of prisoners and women in prisons than other first world countries. It’s nearly impossible for criminals to make it because of the restrictions, difficulty in getting housing and a job, and the fees due immediately upon release, unless they have someone to support them when they get out. No, I’ve never been to jail or prison, never been arrested and have never received even a traffic ticket, but prison reform is a must in this country.
I honestly respect her so much for even trying. Her failing and then going on to pass would really be very impactful on the kids and fans instead of promoting unhealthy obsessions with surgical enhancements to fit into a beauty standard they created and cant even fit in. I would love to watch her study methods and journey to passing instead of those fake episodes on the show
Best comment here. It would be great to see her promote positive messages to young people.
I like how everyone is encouraging Kim , most of the time they criticize her. Even I support her , u go girl 💅 , show the world u got the brains to
You can dislike a person, or even the actions a person takes, but you should still give credit where credit is due.
If she’s a lawyer she’s gonna fight to let criminals go free like her dad so no thanks
I was horribly judgemental of her until I actually sat down and watched keeping up with the Kardashian now I'm a fan I think the family's great
my brain: imagining a bar where they serve babies. and the bartender is also a baby.
drinking babycino...
And that's now a new disney movie
When you say "serve" babies...
@@patton3081 Dreamworks, actually. that's an entire series. (Boss Baby).
@@SimonBuchanNz The bar is owned by Johnathan Swift afterall
Was expecting snark or worse. Instead got warmth and encouragement. Nice.
Yeah I loved how he encouraged her instead of looking down on her
There are a lot of things the kardashians are worth shitting on for, trying to genuinely educate themselves ain't it. Kudos to Kim :)
I'm sorry but she has *all* the best resources you could ever imagine, money to afford the best tutors, go to the top law schools, study at the highest levels yet she didn't pass the exam?!
Lawyer Bro is a good guy. He usually doesn't make fun of people.
@@basmalasaad3039 Maybe she's trying to pass on skill alone, without using money as a cop-out
Hey guys it’s a year later and I just wanted to let y’all know she finally passed it and she was literally so happy
Oh.
she’s happy that now she’s gonna fight to let criminals go free like her dad lmao
Sounds intense to have your academic success and failure open to the public! I applaud her for putting in the work
This turned out exactly opposite how I was expecting.. it was a refreshing change of pace!
Yeah but it’s still catty af just a smarter way of putting someone down 😂
@@spicemelange92 more so that kim has done certain things and people have set their expectations accordingly. Not really an insult. Its her own fault for people regarding her in such low esteem.
@@casematecardinal u deffo haven’t been in them sort of environments if u don’t get what’s happening here lol
@@spicemelange92 its not my fault if kim acts like one of the most fake people in the world.
@@casematecardinal wtf does this mean lmao
I was waiting for the sign off "...and maybe we will see her... in court."
I think he's rooting for her just so he can SEE her...in court.
Huh, I don’t know much about celebrities but that’s actually nice
She could have easily edited that part out of the episode since she is an executive producer but she left it in and is trying again, showing us the ups and downs and i commend her for that. Truly inspiring
I mean...I didn't know how serious she was the first time she said it. Turns out, pretty serious. Good for her. Hope she makes it.
I actually really appreciate her putting in all this effort. With all the money, connections, and clout she has she could afford to take on cases that most lawyers wouldn't touch. Here's to hoping more people follow in her footsteps!
You really think she would do that? You really see an altruistic person in her? This is just to ensure that when she is older and all that plastic surgery leaves her looking like a train wreck and she has run her course of her vulgar fame, that she has a source of revenue. Also we have enough people following in her footsteps already as a lot of young girls and women actually try to be like her, which offers not her but materialism and baseness. She is a disgrace to the name of women, so lets hope we don’t have more people follow in the footsteps of this piece of trash but encourage them to look up to smart, clever women like scientists and people like Elizabeth Warren.
@@artemisqueen2 she's so rich she won't have to work for the of her life
@@artemisqueen2 who hurt you?
@@artemisqueen2 tf is up with you
Follow in her footsteps? No thanks.
I'm actually really surprised at this. Good for her, trying to follow in dad's footsteps. If she only just failed, she's obviously putting in some effort. Here's to her passing it and moving forward from there, and finally getting to where she wants to be!
Why did I think the baby bar exam was like the Bechdal Test
you're a good man, Devin
Yeah, he is a role model to a lot of young law students/lawyers including me.
He really is
People like her get a lot of warranted criticism, so it's nice to see that she's trying to do something with the status she has
I'll admit, when celebrity stories like this originally break, I usually just the them out. I have zero interest in celebrity shenanigans. As such, I totally discounted Kim's sim to become a lawyer as more celebrity stunting. It sounds like I sold her short. Most celebrities are probably very talented people, who seem to use their talents to gain acclaim in not very significant endeavors. Hopefully she wishes with it, and actually does she good in the world.
And she is in a family that wouldn't be called, the brightest bunch. But it sounds like she is trying to better herself especially since she dropped that trash bag of a husband.
Yeah instead of having an entire documentary about how sad the rich life is *cough Kylie *cough
*unwarranted
@@TheBlargMarg Her father was a lawyer so there was enough ability to pass the bar there
How she’s managing an apprenticeship with 4 children, marital issues and businesses is just IMPRESSIVE
What's impressive She has nanny's and personal assistants.
She’s trying to become a lawyer when in 2016 she recorded and posted a phone call of a conversation and didn’t get the second parties consent - which is literally illegal in California 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
This was a refreshingly positive perspective 🙂
If anything the score she got shows she’s taking this seriously. For all that this seems like something out of a meme I’m rooting for her to stick with this and be in a position do some real good.
Imagine the flex of hiring Kim Kardashian as your lawyer
when your rich and famous: guess ill become a lawyer now.
😂
Thank you for not making the easy joke, and going with the positive approach.
Honestly, I’m kinda rooting for her.
I think she actually has a lot to offer based on some of the things she had done that have not been reality tv based.
The baby bar is no picnic, so try again.
It's admiring her learning journey, it's not easy, and more so her being in the spotlight, how people may shame her and yet keeping her head up and I hope she keeps pushing forward
Have you ever looked in her eyes? NOBODY'S HOME at all.
I hope we will see her in court.
In the voice of Lionel Hutz: "...often as a lawyer!"
Mr Hutz, you’re not wearing any pants.
The fact she even came close is an accomplishment; good on her. Hopefully she studies up and tries again.
More power to her for doing it properly and not taking easy way out. Kudos to this lady.
I feel like that's the closest degree in genuinity for a situation like this. Not passing means people won't just say you used your money and connections to become a lawyer, but almost passing means that you did actually put in a good amount of effort, meaning you didn't just take the test just to say to people that you took the test
Good for her for doing her best, hope she keeps studying.
I was thinking the same thing too.
It's nice to see that he's being genuinely kind and supportive. A lot of people would probably just mock or belittle her for even trying to become a lawyer, so it's refreshing to see a fully qualified lawyer encouraging her to be just a bit more than the Kardashian name.
She tryna be "She-Hulk" out here
"SHE DEFECATED THROUGH A SUNROOF!"
Everything I know about the Kardashians I learned against my will. However, I agree, kudos to Kim. I hope she keeps trying and is able to make a difference
I gotta say if she's being genuine that's great good to see her working at something not relying on the family name either by itself to sell products like most of that family.
I think she is pretty genuine about this cause. Most people didnt even know how heavily involved she was until maybe 2019 I think. When Trump passed something that helped a bunch of inmates get released who were charged for non violent petty drug offenses which was backed by Kim. She helped fund their reformation and reentry into the outside and helped them find their family. I remember looking this up when it happened because I remember people talking shit about her because she was hanging out with trump a lot, and found this out when the news broke.
Kim as a lawyer: “Your honor that’s so rude”
(Try and imagine it in her voice.)
She passed on her 4th attempt.
She came close? thats no small feat
Pun intended?
I'm curious to know what "came close" means.
@@JennaLeigh she needs a 70% (560) to pass and she got I think in the 470s? So like 60% percent.
Was going to leave a snide remark, but I imagine a lot if people fail the baby bar on their first try so I can't really fault her either.
And she’s also in the middle of a divorce. That would have made it much harder for her, I think. I hope she takes it again and continues.
The baby BAR is EXACTLY like the real BAR, except for the subjects that can appear. Instead of there being 15 subjects, there are only 3. So passing it is actually challenging. In some law schools, if you don't pass the baby bar, you have to keep taking it before they let you continue onto year two of lawschool.
I was going to leave a snide remark too. So I left one!
Ngl, I’m rooting for her so hard. I really want to see what she could do as a lawyer.
The entire time he said baby bar exam I can only imagine baby doing gymnastic with bars
Even a lightened version of the bar exam as the baby bar exam with just apprenticeship and self study especially when you add in all the other full time career stuff is going to be hard af. People struggle and fail the full one with years of law school and tons of self study before the full one then still have to retake.
Yet there are still 10x as many lawyers as needed in the US, 50x as many as in any other country. Clearly, an overpopulated field, while work that needs to be done is left begging for help. Shame on her and her shyster, grifter family.
@@nora22000 have you even looked into what type of law she is working in? It's certainly not for ppl suing each other. It's to help overturn LIFE sentences given to ppl for non violent crimes, like a woman given life for selling weed. Another case she worked on and helped to get overturned was for a man who was wrongfully convicted and imprisoned for life, though there was evidence showing he couldn't have been involved. These are the cases she works on. Not a rich socialite suing her plastic surgeon for a botched nose job, or helping a wife in a divorce take her husband for all he's worth. I'm far from a leftist, and I'm not far right either...definitely more moderate, but I can give credit where credit is due. She has star power, and she is using it towards criminal justice reform, which our country does need. 🤷♀️
@@kdaze10 Hmm. They all start off that way. She's a grifter. She took food from the poor--CARES Act.
I, for one, am actually rather suprised by the upbeat and non-judgmental tone of this short, i was honestly half-expecting a "point and laugh" piece, but that might be because, i will admit on reflection, because i was both judging devlin by the rather low standards of most social media, and Kim for trying in the 1st place becuase honestly, I had wrote it off as some weird PR thing than a genuine attempt at passing the bar.
clearly, i need to work on my judgements
I mean her father was a very famous lawyer, I can imagine that she is garnering quite a bit of respect for this.
Research "The Justice Project" to see the context for her inspiration to begin this journey.
She actually got a worse score the second time around.
Her being genuine you make good jokes sir
My groggy, half-asleep brain: "She's barred from *what?"*
Even tho I’m not a huge fan of the Kardashians or the Jenners, I honestly hope this works out for her. She deserves to have this after the hell she has been through. I honestly think she can do some really amazing work when it’s the work *SHE WANTS TO DO* and not work that’s forced on her from everyone else. I honestly think she can do it, and I hope she does bc she deserves to be happy.
As a lawyer I understand the hard work and dedication. Hats off to Kim for not giving up, she has a platform to do SO MUCH good! I wish her well.
I think it's really cool that she's clearly putting the work in and being public about this journey not only because I think she'll be a good lawyer but also because she is exposing a lot of young people to the process of becoming a lawyer and giving them a mainstream role model
If she was truly serious about becoming a lawyer, why doesn’t she just go to an accredited law school?
I'd imagine it just takes longer
She doesn’t have an undergraduate degree either, so she wouldn’t be eligible for acceptance at an accredited school.
Not to mention, the ABA has pretty strict attendance standards at accredited schools, making it difficult to fit in with her demanding schedule.
Not everyone does well in school and learns better with hands on training. The question isn't why she doesn't go to an accredited law school... the question is why there aren't more options for getting a professional license OTHER than going to school to help those that just don't do well with the school environment.
You are such a nice person! Not at all the reaction you'd expect, but why not? She's a human being, and this is a really good thing she's doing.
he says the baby bar exam like everyone in the universe knows what it is
She passed now.
I really respect the career change! It's great to see people go back to school in an effort to better themselves!
But she didn't go to school.
I wish she would just donate to civil rights organizations or non-profit legal services orgs.
she can try for both, though?
she literally also does that. and she has successfully campaigned for the release of black men who have been in prison for decades for non violent drug offenses, and has aided in pushing for law changes regarding maximum sentences for non violent drug crimes in california. she's certainly done more good that you have, i'm guessing.
she is also one of the few celebrities that has been raising awareness and fighting for official recognition of the armenian genocide for years.
@@shadycatz85 That's all great, but imagine how much more could be done with even just 1% of her wealth. More pro-bono lawyers can be applied to cases, bail funds for activists, etc. I argue that if she really into prison abolition, it would be much faster if she donated to orgs that already have the people and resources to get work done efficiently
@@blue_champignon5738 she. does. as. well.
I am genuinely impressed by her work.
I love how encouraging you are of her attempt to become a lawyer.
More industries need to use apprenticeship programs. Good for the employer, as they get work done at a reduced rate, and good for the apprentice. Especially if they find out they hate the job, then you don't have mountains of dept for a poor, uninformed choice.
@AeonReign I agree that apprenticeships can create great opportunities however I feel like the way our society currently executes them is not efficient. Originally apprenticeships had a lot more benefits than they do now. I understand that the cheap labor is supposed to be a motivating factor for the company, but it isn't sustainable in the long term on a macro scale. What should be the motivating factor for a business is having an employee they only have to train once for the next several years or even decades for one position which alone saves them tons of money on turn over rate. I think perhaps a contract stating that the apprentice agrees to provided services for a certain amount of time in an apprenticeship, as well as covering the benefits for the apprentice from the employer, like on job training, medical benefits, incrementally increasing salary, and opportunities for growth, would be a more societally beneficial system.
Did you pass the Bar on the first try?
i want to know the answer to that question
I believe he was originally licensed in CA. They have a first time pass rate of 44%. But it should be noted that CA has one of the hardest bar exams in the country.
This guy look like a tutorial NPC in a construction mobile game
Respect to anyone pursuing their dreams
Does anyone know the statistics on those who fail the first time but pass the 2nd or 3rd? Do not give up. (And I too was waiting for "we'll see her in court."
About 20% pass the baby BAR each time it's taken. That's a mix of first time and repeat takers. In some schools, you aren't allowed to continue to the second year of lawschool until you pass.
Detailed statistics are posted on the CA Bar website. Under Bar rules (not particular law school rules), if you don’t pass by the third “opportunity” you lose credit for everything beyond your first year of study and can’t continue until you pass.
Thought this was about her becoming a lawyer for children.
Lol ikr
Baby court? Finally, the correct venue to cite Finders vs. Keepers and Rubber vs. Glue!
This is actually a really wholesome video
Kim being smart, nice ... in multiverse world that is...😂
ngl, this has been surprisingly wholesome :)
Showed up thinking the title was overly aggressive, glad that it was surprisingly wholesome
It must be really hard to force yourself to study when you literally have no need 💀
He looks like the news guy in a game
I honestly think it's really cool that shes legit putting in work to try and make a difference. It would be so easy for her to just coast on her money and tweet out progressive hashtags for clout but it seems like she genuinely cares. Glad this vid recognizes this ✨ also i can't believe im posting something positive about a Kardashian lol
Her effort is commendable - I hope she keeps studying and passes next time. 😊
The passive aggressiveness in this video is just oozing out 🤣
Would you recommend using the apprenticeship program in Vermont instead of going to law school? I personally learn better through doing than listening anyways plus no debt sounds like a good thing
I don't fully understand why she just doesn't suck it up and go to law school. It would probably make her a better attorney at the end of the day.
Probably figures, special rules for special people. She's also "busy". Most everyone is "busy", and that doesn't bode well for future clients that she is so "busy".
@@jennifervalentine8955 Law isn't all about serving clients. There are lots of ways she can work in advocacy otherwise. I don't know much about her or her agenda but to imply that lawyers just serve clients and do all their work through that context is just not correct.
Going to law school would expose her professors and classmates to a variety of harassment. Media trying to sneak into classes; bribing anyone on group projects to share her work; breaking into offices to scoop final grades before they're announced to the students...
I'm sure there are other things I'm not thinking of, but it wouldn't be good for the university.
Cuz this is all a big stunt to hype up her brand and make more money. Wouldn’t she need to go to college get a degree and then go to law school? Why spend a decade doing that when posting pics in bikinis is your day job?
@@SuperKing604 Because sometimes people care about doing interesting things ... And it's kinda scary that this needs to be pointed out to you. Your level of cynicism isn't healthy. If I had 100 million dollars suddenly tomorrow I'd still go to med school, hell I'd be thrilled at how much easier it would be to go
props to her for trying. no need to be negative about it like some people in the comments.
to be fair, i have read a good number of comments so far and i still didnt find a single one that is negative.. they are all pretty much similar to yours
@@raffaelepiccini3405 there was 2 jerks when the video was just uploaded who made fun of her I guess their lousy comments got lost and I'm glad
I haven't had much respect for her past endeavours but I do respect her efforts to become a lawyer, especially as it seems she isn't taking any sort of easy way out.
Good luck to her.
man youre really supportive. a lot of law professors aren't like that.
She came close? That's actually impressive, she should try again at a later date after she practices a bit more. (not being sarcastic here)
Tutoring Kim Kardashion a new series on this channel?;) I’m rooting for her too!
Kim I'll have you know that I am PTing at 175+ for the June LSAT and will graciously offer you tutoring for the low low cost of free.
At least it would be educational! I'm all for that! (edit: compared to KUWTK)
Someone should pitch a reality show where we see the works she puts into this. Whoever is teaching her gives her assignments, we see her process, they show the books she's using, and the episode ends with her doing her presentation of assignment. We could call it Kardashian Law.
He should tutor low income students for the LSAT. Prep courses are so expensive. She already has a team of tutors.
It’s alright I wasn’t even able to pass my driver’s test on the first try lol.
Going by her work with The justice project she should be no where near a court room
She might go from being famous for being famous to being useful for something. Good for her. Wish I were in a position to do something like that.
you can be in a position to do something useful. look up mutual aid, workers co-ops, and grassroot homeless charities in your town. donations and stuff are nice and all, but these orgs need boots on the ground
Yeah I'm rooting for her too!
While I'm not too interested in the Kardashians, she has proven to be an advocate for criminal justice reform that I can applaud.
Totally thought that “baby bar exam” was a punch line 😅
I don’t have strong feelings either way for her and her family but I did think it was kinda cool when I saw back then that she was doing this. She has already helped people and shined light on major issues, her dad was a lawyer obviously. I hope she does try again. Not passing a test sucks but it’s not the end of the world and doesn’t mean she can’t do it.
I respect that she's trying to get herself into a difficult profession in which she can help people.
Huh.
Props to her for trying to do something actually useful for society unlike y'know, celebrities that are celebrities for being celebrities
Famous for being rich. That was a trend started by Paris Hilton. Not sure why that ever became a thing.
thx 4 the update
props to kim, hard work always makes me respect someone. good luck to her, and j hope she can help her clients win their cases.