Hey Brady, don't feel bad that you can't see how it's carried when the Queen is around. She will never be able to see how it's carried when she's NOT around ;-)
There are only 65k subscribers for Objectivity and that is simply not enough for how wonderful this channel is. I looked at the Society website and they have links to podcasts and RSS feed, but not one for Objectivity. I think that it would be good PR to add this channel to that list.
1:15 Keith- "1 of the hazards is Everyone wants to get a picture with the mace" Brady- " ahh... of course!" 5:08 ...Brady proceeds to ask for a picture
+Abyssaljam He does not have an official title, he is a very talented man but does not like to show off. Here is a brief biography. He initially went to med school in Canada to be a surgeon. Sadly there was a slight mishap during one of his firework shows that damaged a nerve in his hand rendering him unable to preform surgery. He dropped out and started writing an anatomy textbook(_Clinically Oriented Anatomy_) together with 2 of his colleagues. This book is still used by medicine students to this day. It is during the research for this book he felt in love with libraries and archives. After the book was finished he moved back to the UK to get a bachelor in English Literature/American Studies at the University of Hull, Followed by a DipLib(Librarianship and Information Studies). During this period his passion for libraries was discovered and he was offered a job at the royal society as a librarian. He worked at the Royal Society for 5 years during this he got a masters degree in Victorian poetry.It is unclear what happened after this but he quit at the Royal society and disappeared for 2 years. _Manny speculate that he advised the government in the some secret projects given his natural talent as a pyrotechnician and explosive technician. It is unclear if the project was canceled or he was very efficient at solving the governments problems._ After this 2 year break he went on to work as the Head of library at the Institution of Mechanical Engineers. During his work there he also received his honorary doctorate in medicine from the University of Toronto for his work on the textbook _Clinically Oriented Anatomy_. 9 years Later he was asked to become Head of Library and Information Services at The Royal Society, an offer he could not refuse. He officially started on July 4th 2005 and he still celebrates that date with a small pyrotechnics show for family and close friends. Since 2011 he has appeared in a few TV series promoting science.
So what's the purpose of the different grip when the Queen is present? I mean, I know it boils down to "It's tradition," but is there any explanation for why that tradition exists?
+12tone To show submissiveness is my guess- the mace is to represent the monarchy, and if the monarch is there then there should be a gesture that displays that the mace is no longer the overseer. ?
The mace is, heraldically, a standard - it represents the will of the Monarch, and when it is being carried, the person carrying it is technically A Herald of the Monarch. However, when the Person of the Monarch is present, then the Person of the Monarch takes precedence, and any Standards carried by Standard-Bearers present must follow protocol to signify that precedence.
+Finn, just Finn. - huh, cool! I had thought that the mace is a weapon, and walking around with a weapon (ceremonial or not) "at the ready" or somesuch, in the presence of the monarch may be frowned upon.
My, and here I thought Keith was already the distilled essence of class and style. Turns out, he can dial it up to an eighteen -out of a possible five, mind you - by holding a heavily adorned gilded mace. Not disappointed, I must say.
Really loved this one because of the fact that it's such a central object in the lives of so many great people. You must've felt so privileged being close to it, knowing that this object has been well known and in the presence of so many great personalities! It's almost as if you can feel it glowing from the object in all of it's glory.
man...I love this stuff. I wouldn't be suprised if the bbc tried to get Brady to work for them again and make a tv series out of this kinda stuff. the editing and camera quality is already at that level. pretty good
Perhaps Brady will be inducted someday. Well, maybe not, but it's a really fantastic thing you're doing by sharing all this with us Brady. Next best thing to being there. Thank you!
I wonder where the different ways to hold the mace comes from. Is it maybe because of military etiquette, that when in presence of the king or queen you must present all arms a certain way, and this rule applies to symbolic weapons like this mace as well as "actual" weapons?
FrankieSmileShow well also the mace is used as stand-in for an absent monarch, so perhaps when the monarch is present it is held differently to indicate that it isnt currently acting as such?
+Bjørn Vegar Torseth Technically the British monarch claimed the throne of France from about 1350 to 1801. Several wars were fought over the claim, which was affirmed right up to and a little beyond the French Revolution, when of course the monarchy was abolished. Notice as well (at 4:17) the coat of arms of the monarch can be seen with heraldry representing their dominions: Scotland the lion with the fancy boarder in the top right; Ireland the harp in the bottom left; and in the top left and bottom right the three lions of England (which then included Wales) quartered with the fleur de lis of France. (The latter taking the dominant position.) This too represented the British monarch's de jure position as a French (and french-speaking) noble who also happened to hold territory in the British archipelago via their ancestor William I (the Conqueror).
ProfessorEGadd Nice. I stand corrected. So what are the Prince of Wales' feathers with ICH DIEN written on it all about? It looks very similar. I'm sure Wikipedia could tell me but you sound like you know what your talking about.
"Slightly flattened" is a very British thing to say. I can well imagine that the mace was actually used as a mace, like in a battle or at least a whim of a monarch.
First of all, what about Wales? Second, how much does it weigh? Third, is the huge great lump at the top end solid or hollow? If the latter, is there anything in it?
+Phil Boswell Wales has an odd constitutional position in the UK as it was part of the Kingdom of England at the time of the first Act of Union. Thus, it's represented on the mace by the rose.
So, what's the difference between scepter and a mace? I had thought this was a scepter, and it confused me the first couple times it was called a mace.
I wonder if it was a conscious decision to skip the fleur-de-lis, for France, when mentioning the countries represented? Charles II still held on to the historic claim to the French throne.
There is the symbol of a 4th country represented on the Mace (the Irish Harp, Scottish Thistle, English Rose, and the French Fleur-de-lis (shown at 2:20). Why was the fleur-de-lis edited out? I'm sure Keith knew there were 4 countries represented on the Mace.
I can imagine either Keith and/or Brady getting knight hood for bringing the treasures and historical knowledge protected by the Royal Society to the world. Professor Sir Martyn Dr. Poliakoff of Periodic Videos did.
This might be a silly question, but on the mace, why is it that the whole thing is in latin but the date isn't MDCLXIII? Was it a convention already to write the dates like that even in latin text?
There was a long time in British history when Wales wasn't recognized as not being just a part of England despite the language and cultural differences. But they're not going to redo the mace at this stage.
+Sebastian Villa Because Charles II was "King of England, Scotland, *France* and Ireland". All kings since Edward III claimed right to France through bloodlines but in reality France just told them to sod off and had their own kings. Charles II's mother was French and his French cousin Louis was king of France at the time so they probably laughed at the fleur.
Yeah, I found it odd they didn't mention the fleur, but I guess it would have been a bit of a tangent to explain the history of English kings claiming dominion over France for increasingly spurious reasons, so they just focused on the the controversial countries under the English Crown. Though... Ireland... (:
Hey Brady, don't feel bad that you can't see how it's carried when the Queen is around. She will never be able to see how it's carried when she's NOT around ;-)
+FrederikMeynen Unless she watches this video :P
+FrederikMeynen I just pictured her watching this video on a laptop.
"What are you doing, your majesty?" - "Nothing! Get out!"
3:30 - a wild Poliakoff appears.
+whuzzzup Well spotted!
+whuzzzup He *is* one of the officers, after all.
+whuzzzup I don't have any knight balls D:
Periodic table tie, as always!
Lounging in his natural environment 😁
Yes, it would be _amacing_ if it could talk.
+Nilguiri very good!
+Nilguiri that's what I thought...
Brady's at it again!
+Objectivity Do not encourage the puns, lol.
@@therealxunil2 𝘎𝘪𝘭𝘵𝘺 as charged.
Now you guys just need to get the Queen on Objectivity, so Keith can show us the way to hold it
Objectivity 300: Object in question: Queen Elizabeth II
She's certainly old enough to be featured on this channel, LOL
0:51 Keith is the Man. Wearing a suit and nonchalantly carrying giant golden mace over one shoulder
There are only 65k subscribers for Objectivity and that is simply not enough for how wonderful this channel is. I looked at the Society website and they have links to podcasts and RSS feed, but not one for Objectivity. I think that it would be good PR to add this channel to that list.
"Slightly flattened"? Sounds like a very british way of saying it was used to nail something to a wall
I was picturing one of the scientists taking an enemy to task... Newton at Leibniz, perhaps...
I literally drop everything when an 'Objectivity' video shows on my timeline.
+Mulreay well, we won't let you hold the mace then!
+Mulreay I have to agree
Objectivity Touche my friend
+Mulreay Hopefully you don't work in a maternity ward or, at least, are not allowed to check youtube while working.
1:15 Keith- "1 of the hazards is Everyone wants to get a picture with the mace"
Brady- " ahh... of course!"
5:08 ...Brady proceeds to ask for a picture
What are the stats?
+David S. Just look up the stats for a Staff of Lordly Might and there you go.
+David S. +20 INT +10 STR +Boss Status
+Smokex365 - No random crits
+Smokex365 Damn not much use. I'm a range player.
+David S. : Passive Effect: AoE Bonus INT & WIS
3:25 Prof Poliakoff and Keith together in one vid ?? :O
+TheSnobar You mean professor Sir Martyn Poliakoff and Keith. Mind the etiquette.
+Wemja Dose Keith have any titals?
+Abyssaljam The Lord General Keeper of Many Magical Things xD
+Abyssaljam He does not have an official title, he is a very talented man but does not like to show off. Here is a brief biography.
He initially went to med school in Canada to be a surgeon. Sadly there was a slight mishap during one of his firework shows that damaged a nerve in his hand rendering him unable to preform surgery. He dropped out and started writing an anatomy textbook(_Clinically Oriented Anatomy_) together with 2 of his colleagues. This book is still used by medicine students to this day. It is during the research for this book he felt in love with libraries and archives.
After the book was finished he moved back to the UK to get a bachelor in English Literature/American Studies at the University of Hull, Followed by a DipLib(Librarianship and Information Studies).
During this period his passion for libraries was discovered and he was offered a job at the royal society as a librarian. He worked at the Royal Society for 5 years during this he got a masters degree in Victorian poetry.It is unclear what happened after this but he quit at the Royal society and disappeared for 2 years.
_Manny speculate that he advised the government in the some secret projects given his natural talent as a pyrotechnician and explosive technician. It is unclear if the project was canceled or he was very efficient at solving the governments problems._
After this 2 year break he went on to work as the Head of library at the Institution of Mechanical Engineers. During his work there he also received his honorary doctorate in medicine from the University of Toronto for his work on the textbook _Clinically Oriented Anatomy_.
9 years Later he was asked to become Head of Library and Information Services at The Royal Society, an offer he could not refuse. He officially started on July 4th 2005 and he still celebrates that date with a small pyrotechnics show for family and close friends.
Since 2011 he has appeared in a few TV series promoting science.
+Wemja Is it Professor Sir or Sir Professor?
So what's the purpose of the different grip when the Queen is present? I mean, I know it boils down to "It's tradition," but is there any explanation for why that tradition exists?
+12tone It's more likely to represent that the mace doesn't represent the monarch at that point in time because the monarch is present.
+12tone I'd guess it's because the mace is there to represent the monarch and if she's there anyway the mace is sort of redundant
+12tone To show submissiveness is my guess- the mace is to represent the monarchy, and if the monarch is there then there should be a gesture that displays that the mace is no longer the overseer. ?
The mace is, heraldically, a standard - it represents the will of the Monarch, and when it is being carried, the person carrying it is technically A Herald of the Monarch. However, when the Person of the Monarch is present, then the Person of the Monarch takes precedence, and any Standards carried by Standard-Bearers present must follow protocol to signify that precedence.
+Finn, just Finn. - huh, cool! I had thought that the mace is a weapon, and walking around with a weapon (ceremonial or not) "at the ready" or somesuch, in the presence of the monarch may be frowned upon.
i'd never even heard of this thing before but seeing it and seeing Brady with it just made my insides smile.
My, and here I thought Keith was already the distilled essence of class and style. Turns out, he can dial it up to an eighteen -out of a possible five, mind you - by holding a heavily adorned gilded mace. Not disappointed, I must say.
Really loved this one because of the fact that it's such a central object in the lives of so many great people. You must've felt so privileged being close to it, knowing that this object has been well known and in the presence of so many great personalities! It's almost as if you can feel it glowing from the object in all of it's glory.
I love this channel. Been subscribed for last 4 months. I wish I would have discovered it 7 years ago.
Well you can catch up now!
I'm just imagining Keith battling a hoard of zombies, mace in one hand and object cards in the other
He protects the archives with it. YOU SHALL NOT PASS until you fill out this requisite form for the item.
man...I love this stuff. I wouldn't be suprised if the bbc tried to get Brady to work for them again and make a tv series out of this kinda stuff. the editing and camera quality is already at that level.
pretty good
We need a whole video on the different ways to hold the mace!
+carn109 And CGPGrey's opinion on owning a mace.
I want some Objectivity about that door you walk through at 1:23 WOW does that have some intricate inlay!
I have been especially looking forward to watching this episode and can only describe it as simply thrilling. Thanks Brady a joy as ever.
Oh Brady. You have one of the best jobs in the world.
Another great video from you and your team.
Perhaps Brady will be inducted someday. Well, maybe not, but it's a really fantastic thing you're doing by sharing all this with us Brady. Next best thing to being there. Thank you!
love the extra stuff at the beginning with the RS President etc!
It is a rather beautiful mace.
All hail President Brady! Love love love these vids --- thanks so much for sharing!!!
Amazing Mace
That is one of the coolest objects I have seen on here to date. That is awesome! Thank you.
IIRC, the actual mace head is the small end. The highly decorated part is the hilt.
Of course, it probably wouldn't make a very good weapon. :)
I wonder where the different ways to hold the mace comes from. Is it maybe because of military etiquette, that when in presence of the king or queen you must present all arms a certain way, and this rule applies to symbolic weapons like this mace as well as "actual" weapons?
FrankieSmileShow well also the mace is used as stand-in for an absent monarch, so perhaps when the monarch is present it is held differently to indicate that it isnt currently acting as such?
I note that Wales is not represented... though there does seem to be a fleur de lis.
Absolutely amazing.
The portrait of Brady at the end, 10/10
I really want to know how to carry the mace when the Queen is around
One of the best yet. Please keep these videos coming :D
Incredible
Really great video! hopefully one day I'll get to visit and see it
Any pictures of how it's held when the queen is there?
at 2:20 is that a fleur de lys for France?
It is a thing of beauty, isn't it?
At 2:19, there's a Fleur de Lys, is it something to do with french monarchy, or is it just there because they thought it would look nice?
How much does it weigh?
+Tymon0000 as much as a duck
ThreadThatHas NoEnd
it should float on water then
+Tymon0000 It weighs the same as a cannonball....
on the moon.
zuluknob
What's your favorite color?
+Tymon0000 BLUE........ NO, O-..AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH!!!! *sploosh*
No mention of the fleur-de-lis on the head of the mace, next to the Irish harp, Scottish thistle, and English rose?
+Bjørn Vegar Torseth
I think those are the Prince of Wales' feathers.
+Bjørn Vegar Torseth
Technically the British monarch claimed the throne of France from about 1350 to 1801. Several wars were fought over the claim, which was affirmed right up to and a little beyond the French Revolution, when of course the monarchy was abolished. Notice as well (at 4:17) the coat of arms of the monarch can be seen with heraldry representing their dominions: Scotland the lion with the fancy boarder in the top right; Ireland the harp in the bottom left; and in the top left and bottom right the three lions of England (which then included Wales) quartered with the fleur de lis of France. (The latter taking the dominant position.) This too represented the British monarch's de jure position as a French (and french-speaking) noble who also happened to hold territory in the British archipelago via their ancestor William I (the Conqueror).
ProfessorEGadd
Nice. I stand corrected. So what are the Prince of Wales' feathers with ICH DIEN written on it all about? It looks very similar. I'm sure Wikipedia could tell me but you sound like you know what your talking about.
Nilguiri
All I'll say is the symbols aren't related. If you want to know more you will have to check wikipedia yourself!
ProfessorEGadd
OK, cheers.
Amazing
Very interesting object. Thank you Brady.
Did I miss what the mace is made out of? Steel and gold?
+Pepper Spray silver
Finally the mace is revealed.
Keep it up with this amazing videos!
This video is amacing!
wasnt the also a lily on top? And did it stand for France?!
yes and yes. it is called fleur de lys
thanks
"Slightly flattened" is a very British thing to say. I can well imagine that the mace was actually used as a mace, like in a battle or at least a whim of a monarch.
Sounds like the same rules as flags in the monarchs presence.
So I assume the mace was used in battle then?
Is it the same as the ones in Parliament?
First of all, what about Wales?
Second, how much does it weigh?
Third, is the huge great lump at the top end solid or hollow? If the latter, is there anything in it?
+Phil Boswell Wales has an odd constitutional position in the UK as it was part of the Kingdom of England at the time of the first Act of Union. Thus, it's represented on the mace by the rose.
I saw the Professor! He was at the meeting!! =D
+Radditz770 good catch!
+Radditz770 haha, was scrolling if anyone else noticed :-D .. That dude is awesome! (how can anyone miss that hair anyway :P)
Are there no historical paintings or photos of the mace being held in Royal presence?
i feel sorry for anyone who had to carry that heavy mace for an entire portrait session.
Any link to some video where the Queen is there, and someone carries the Mace?
+dsiefus If she's there she can carry it herself.
+tabularasa0606 the mace carries the Queen. When nearby her royal blood triggers it's magical protective properties and it starts to levitate.
The mace is only carried for a meeting and I doubt the Queen has ever attended a meeting of the Royal Society, let alone one that was recorded.
I was just there the day you filmed (I remember the tour group that was in that room) but a bit early and a bit late. so I missed Keith completely :(
What about Wales?
I love these videos.
So, what's the difference between scepter and a mace? I had thought this was a scepter, and it confused me the first couple times it was called a mace.
I noticed that they skipped the French Fleur de lis. What's up with that?
It's so beautiful!😱
Nice shirt, Brady
at 3:33 my man, Martyn with a tie I hope is about the periodic table.
Nice stick
"Quite valuable" supreme understatement.
Which artisan made it?
I wonder if it was a conscious decision to skip the fleur-de-lis, for France, when mentioning the countries represented? Charles II still held on to the historic claim to the French throne.
Grey would love to have one of these things at his place
I find it interesting that you can't hold it the Queen way without her presence. What trouble would you be in if you did?
+Kevin Eder It's an AOE mana sapping effect, which can make things difficult for any ranged spellcaster units nearby.
Is there any particular reason why there are symbols for England, Scotland and Ireland on the mace, but not Wales?
There is the symbol of a 4th country represented on the Mace (the Irish Harp, Scottish Thistle, English Rose, and the French Fleur-de-lis (shown at 2:20). Why was the fleur-de-lis edited out? I'm sure Keith knew there were 4 countries represented on the Mace.
I can imagine either Keith and/or Brady getting knight hood for bringing the treasures and historical knowledge protected by the Royal Society to the world.
Professor Sir Martyn Dr. Poliakoff of Periodic Videos did.
Oh if that mace could talk what tales it tell, about Della and the Dealer and the dog as well.
A cameo from Royal Society foreign secretary, Sir Martyn Poliakoff.
Wales?
Such a silly thing I love it
Amaceing episode :)
I see Sir Martyn
+vesteel Correct etiquette would be either Sir Martyn or Sir Martyn Poliakoff, not Sir Poliakoff. (This is neglecting his Prof. title)
+vesteel The pre-nominal "Sir" is linked to the given name, not the surname, so the proper style is Sir Martyn.
Because i'm not from England
+vesteel Don't worry, neither are most of the people who live here.
Did thay forget Wales or dose the three feathers mean something else?
+Abyssaljam
Aye, those are the Prince of Wales' feathers. I imagine if you look more closely, it will have "ICH DIEN" written on them.
At last bradyyyy !! After all the teasing ! xD Offf to watch the vid thanks
4:51 Thaaank you for asking ! =D
"And there it stands," says Keith as he lays it down...
That is one awesome mace :-)
This might be a silly question, but on the mace, why is it that the whole thing is in latin but the date isn't MDCLXIII? Was it a convention already to write the dates like that even in latin text?
I really wanted Keith to march down the corridor with it singing A British Tar xD
Prof Poliakoff! Yeah!
a mace? time to level it up with a couple of titanite shards.
"I cannot show you because the Queen (Monarch) isn't here". Classic!
how about : the manuscripts of Galileo Galilei , as a topic for next episode !?? :D
This thing has been around 350+ years. You just know someone at some point has tried to put it up their bottom. Maybe that's how the damage occurred.
Brady for president!
Does Whales not have a symbol on the mace?
There was a long time in British history when Wales wasn't recognized as not being just a part of England despite the language and cultural differences. But they're not going to redo the mace at this stage.
+PMW3 what is the symbol for Wales? Oh man, it's not a couple of Whales swimming around is it? :D
If the monarch would be present then why would the symbol of his/her absence be present too? Even if it is carried in a toned down way.
Why is there a fleur de lys on the mace?
+Sebastian Villa Because Charles II was "King of England, Scotland, *France* and Ireland". All kings since Edward III claimed right to France through bloodlines but in reality France just told them to sod off and had their own kings. Charles II's mother was French and his French cousin Louis was king of France at the time so they probably laughed at the fleur.
Yeah, I found it odd they didn't mention the fleur, but I guess it would have been a bit of a tangent to explain the history of English kings claiming dominion over France for increasingly spurious reasons, so they just focused on the the controversial countries under the English Crown. Though... Ireland... (:
Oh, the mace. I thought in this video you were going to lure us into the Royal Society maze.
Interesting how he pronounces foyer. I think he's using the American pronunciation of sounding the R.
I would just like to point out that if you repair the bent part of the mace then that's also part of its history. Just do it.
"I checked eBay, it wasn't there."
BRAAADDDYY
Today I learned: It would be amazing if maces could talk.