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I’m so glad that yall are leveling up. Been listening since April of 2023 and my goodness yall now upload the pod SAME DAY for audio, hella sponsors, ALL STAR APPEARANCE, hella collabs, and still pure ball talk. PC IS BETTER😎 and still improving very proud of have far yall have leveled up
There’s no logic for Kawhi being a better defender than 09-13 LBJ. Bron anchored several high level defenses with his elite defensive play calling, recoverability, switch ability, and GOAT tier help side wing rim protection. Kawhi is the GOAT wing on ball defender but he’s always been below average off ball and is not in the same realm as a communicator or rotation guy. Kawhi is the best disruptor ever but rim protection at the wing position is extremely valuable. Also LBJ was still a good on ball defender too… Also Ox will love this: Watch what Bron did to PP in the 2010 playoffs. He sentenced Pierce to life in prison that series…
I cant just let chill slide with these takes man. DeAaron Fox is not an all league defensive caliber player. When he starts saying like “how fox is in the passing lane, how he provides ball pressure” those statements don’t mean much because you can use that for a lot of players. Defense is mostly about effort, idc if Jrue holiday has the capability of being the best guard defender in the league but clearly he hasn’t shown that consistently this year. If its not consistent its irrelevant to me
Luka Shai Steph Brunson Trae Dame Hali Harden Cade Garland Kyrie (maybe Lamelo maybe Ja) Point guards i think are better than deaaron fox. hes a great player just alot of great PGs,i didnt know i was gonna say hes not top 10 i just didnt really care ab deaaron fox trade destinations. Hes definitely not a top 5 pg tho and not better than no jalen brunson and he sure as hell not better than ant
I think Sacramento's problem is that Fox is a 2026 UFA and is VERY open about how he wont sign an extension with a team he doesnt want to be on so that's already a massive turnoff for teams trying to trade for him. And the only team he seems to want to go to is San Antonio so the Spurs have all the leverage to give the Kings subpar offers because if the Kings dont trade Fox at all he'll just go to the Spurs anyways in 2026
Chill since the beginning of 2025 specifically on the episode before his Charles Barkley Giannis and jokic take chill has been 3/15 fg with takes unc lookin like Kobe in 2015 jus putting up shots bc they give em to you. Leave the game before it leave you💔
Chill is not washed, he just wasn’t that good from the beginning but was more accurate than ticket in few debates that’s all and CHILL IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. W chill W PC
A lot of false narratives surrounding Bron as a defender, like he wasn’t anchoring a number 1 ranked defensive team before Miami with Anderson Varejao and throwaway defenders like mid 30s Joe Smith, etc 😂
I was going to say Cade obviously being better than Deaaron is the craziest thing said on this show in 2025, then i heard peak lebron is a better defender than peak Kawhi. Well done chill
Actually nvm that dont matter cause i assume you didnt. To me the only thing i give Cade the edge is playmaking but even that to me he turns the ball over too much. I think deaaron is the better scorer at all levels, takes the smarter shots, better in the clutch and even though i think Cade is the more versatile defender i still give the slight edge to Deaaron.
@@betweendalinesnbapodcast3733 i think cades clearly the better shooter. CLEARS in the midrange. better in the PnR,major playmaking gap. Gets downhill more (which is crazy) and has the post up wrinkle which is extremely effective. i also think hes better on defense. so i guess the disconnect is i think the scoring gap is smaller and im higher on his defense and playmaking than u
The question I wanna know is de’aaron a number 1 option or a number 2 option type player? The reason why I asked is because from y’all analysis sound like he’s a better 2nd option than a number 1.
Need sesh over Jordan but not Penn. Penn’s shows are all good, especially w Swipa. Jordan has been better though bc he’s not been yelling all the time, which is appreciated.
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@ how can you stand on Cade when this season is his first great season in the league? Maybe Cade does wind up being better than Fox, maybe we’ll see but to say he’s already better than Fox is being a prisoner of the moment
@@MarzTalksSports so you thought the past two seasons when the pistons were irrelevant and Cade was in and out of the lineup while Fox help lead the kings back into the playoffs in over a decade and forced the warriors to 7 games while playing great, that Cade was still better than him? Yeah ok 😂
@@MarzTalksSports you’re really underrating Fox. I’m sorry but ONE season does not automatically make you the better player, you got to have consistency and Fox has been consistent
People talking about castle like he will be great. He is gonna be a good player but will never be as good a fox is right now so what are we talking about
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they wont receive less from the spurs since its known that fox wants to sign an extension with the spurs since that's his preferred destination when he hits the open market in 26 if he not traded there by then.
Chill, man, I get what you were saying, but then again, I don't. You compared Stephon to Fox and said that's why you wouldn't bring Fox over, but I'm like, why would you keep the fake Fox when you can have the real Fox and pair that with Wemby? Because a pairing of Fox/Wemby would be amazing; the West would have to get ready for that.
Chill, I think you're wrong on this one, OG. If I put peak Kawhi in the 90s on a good team like MJ was on a good team, I think for sure he's challenging MJ for the best in the world title. I think Kawhi's a better defender and a better shooter, but MJ is a better athlete and playmaker. But, idk, OG, I think MJ would have a tough time.
Tired of these LeBron glazers that think just because LeBron is considered the goat by many that means he's better than everybody at all aspects of basektball most bron fans are sheeps.
MJ made all defensive teams 9 times and 1 DPOY. Kawhi made all defensive teams 7 times and 2 DPOYs. The year MJ won the DPOY, he beat out Hakeem. To hold the opinion that MJ was the superior defender doesn't mean that you're on crack, more like you're on CBD gummies.
Man I wasn't going to comment but I can't take this guy anymore. 1. You say Tyrese Haliburton has been balling and everyone has been quiet, but you were the main one talking negative about Tyrese and you haven't been bringing him up. 2. You claim you don't watch the G league but constantly have Bronny James name in your mouth. Which one is it, Do we talk about other productive players or we don't. 3. That question to chill was very disingenuous. Why ask him why he has LeBron as the goat over Jordan because he doesn't think Kawhi is a better defender than Jordan? As if there is not other elements to the game of basketball. Players choice Shaq please come back, you're the only one that doesn't let him get away with this.
lol okay. ur right i havent brought up hali,i definitely wasnt the main one talking bad about him though and i still stand by all my critiques of his game (besides the defense) i was just never as high on him to begin with. I barely said anything ab bronny,and when i did i made a joke lmao,if jokes bother u thats tough. Reason i said the goat stuff is cos i was under the assumption that kawhi was good on defense so if MJ>kawhi on defense with how good mj is offensively id struggle to see how chill would have bron as the goat,obviously i then found out he thinks bron better on defense too. Im thankful that im so unbearable you just had to comment
I do understand the harden glaze this year from yall😂 mf is shioting 39% from the field. I appreciate the playmaking but yall be saying hes having a great season
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Shout out Nerd Sesh gotta get those guys back ASAP… real hoop talk is not dead, these young fellas talking 🏀
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@@TheSage1123 This was far from MATHSKETBALL. Straight hoop talk
Ox, Fox should’ve had the surgery on his fingers it’s really affected his play this season.
Nerd Shesh needs to be on PC more often. Top tier basketball content creators
Well they have their own show + they’re TH-camrs kinda hard
@@brycesmoov3313I know, I watch their stuff alot
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Mj and Lebron are NOT better defenders than Kawhi leonard. also respect shane battier
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MJ’s defense is one of the most overrated things of all time. A lot of people just see accolades and go welp thats good enough for me
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Where do you rate kawhi, mj, and bron all-time as defenders 🤔 👀
MJ wasn’t a lock down defender if we being real
PC been on the role last 2-3 weeks really enjoyed a lot of these conversations
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No cap guys bring these guys back this was a W episode ball talk was on point and topics were fire
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One of ya best shows nerd sesh fit in great 🔥🔥 bring them on more then some of the other guest
I’m so glad that yall are leveling up.
Been listening since April of 2023 and my goodness yall now upload the pod SAME DAY for audio, hella sponsors, ALL STAR APPEARANCE, hella collabs, and still pure ball talk. PC IS BETTER😎 and still improving very proud of have far yall have leveled up
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I wasn't aware we are still having Brunson and Fox convo. Brunson clears
neither was i
@@MarzTalksSportsBrunson imo is third best pg in the league and is a top 10-15 player. I don't think Fox is close to that.
Slow down on top 10
Brunson isnt better than fox. Fox actually plays defense along with scoring 25 to 28 points
@@himmie1 luckily efficiency passing and playmaking is a thing
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Also Kawhi clears
Yeah I like these guys hope to see them back. Great basketball conversation.
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I have Jordan as the Goat but Kawhi is cooking in the 90s let’s be real
There’s no logic for Kawhi being a better defender than 09-13 LBJ. Bron anchored several high level defenses with his elite defensive play calling, recoverability, switch ability, and GOAT tier help side wing rim protection.
Kawhi is the GOAT wing on ball defender but he’s always been below average off ball and is not in the same realm as a communicator or rotation guy. Kawhi is the best disruptor ever but rim protection at the wing position is extremely valuable. Also LBJ was still a good on ball defender too…
Also Ox will love this: Watch what Bron did to PP in the 2010 playoffs. He sentenced Pierce to life in prison that series…
I mean kawhi had great switch ability and great recovery whilst providing great rim protection for a wing
I'm liking what you're cooking
Great analysis but I’m still taking kawhi❤
Y’all should do the Top 10 defenders at each position all time like yall did best players at each position That Would Be Interesting
Concur
thats tough
I cant just let chill slide with these takes man. DeAaron Fox is not an all league defensive caliber player. When he starts saying like “how fox is in the passing lane, how he provides ball pressure” those statements don’t mean much because you can use that for a lot of players. Defense is mostly about effort, idc if Jrue holiday has the capability of being the best guard defender in the league but clearly he hasn’t shown that consistently this year. If its not consistent its irrelevant to me
“Getting in the passing lanes” is just one of chill town cue cards when he’s describing a defender he likes / overrates
And you can add « Shooting gaps
Hearing footsteps
Team defender
Ability to recover »
Hmmmm
Kawhi not being a better defender than LeBron and Jordan was an insane take man. What is going on, we need an entire defense episode break this down.
Love these two on the panel real hoop talk
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(maybe Lamelo maybe Ja) Point guards i think are better than deaaron fox. hes a great player just alot of great PGs,i didnt know i was gonna say hes not top 10 i just didnt really care ab deaaron fox trade destinations. Hes definitely not a top 5 pg tho and not better than no jalen brunson and he sure as hell not better than ant
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Luka better than everybody else and Kyrie better than Luka so if you think about it Kyrie the MVP
Trae Young and Hali are not better than Fox and Ja hell no. Fox got broken fingers all season and Ja been injured as well
Finally some new W guests it’s been a hot minute
Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Liam Coen (Carson) and New York Jets head coach Aaron Glenn (Chill Town)
I think Sacramento's problem is that Fox is a 2026 UFA and is VERY open about how he wont sign an extension with a team he doesnt want to be on so that's already a massive turnoff for teams trying to trade for him. And the only team he seems to want to go to is San Antonio so the Spurs have all the leverage to give the Kings subpar offers because if the Kings dont trade Fox at all he'll just go to the Spurs anyways in 2026
Good guest today. Had no idea who he was but loved his input💯
the kawhi disrespect is insane
loved loved loved this episode, nerd sesh are the GOATs. you guys definitely need to bring them back ASAP.
Chill since the beginning of 2025 specifically on the episode before his Charles Barkley Giannis and jokic take chill has been 3/15 fg with takes unc lookin like Kobe in 2015 jus putting up shots bc they give em to you. Leave the game before it leave you💔
Been washed since 2023, Y’all just wasn’t paying attention
@ nah bruh he’s been all star talent last year I knew he was getting old in tooth but damn
Chill is not washed, he just wasn’t that good from the beginning but was more accurate than ticket in few debates that’s all and
CHILL IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. W chill W PC
@@MKB2003 nah he is I’m jus trollin fr 😭
Best show inna min watched every segment this was a fire collab
Chill is actually senile bro this man just said Mj and LeBron are better on defense than kawhi 😂
Let’s get Jason tim on here next
10/10 show today. Disagreements were there but no Shouting or fighting.
Cade about to get the Hali treatment soon. He’s been great this season, but to put him above Fox, even above Ja is crazy.
how is it crazy
Its legit insane that marz can get paid and sit here and decide which convos he engages in
A lot of false narratives surrounding Bron as a defender, like he wasn’t anchoring a number 1 ranked defensive team before Miami with Anderson Varejao and throwaway defenders like mid 30s Joe Smith, etc 😂
respect varejao all defensive selection
@@MarzTalksSportsI do but damn
Y’all should make the stream 4K
Ox I feel for you bro, as a nuggets fan this would be like if a healthy jamal Murray wanted to leave before the chip
it’s hilarious that ox waited 20 years for the kings to be good, just for them fuck it all up again
I was going to say Cade obviously being better than Deaaron is the craziest thing said on this show in 2025, then i heard peak lebron is a better defender than peak Kawhi. Well done chill
how isnt cade obviously better?
@ before i answer i have an important question i need you to answer. Did you have him better before this season?
@ no i dont think so
Actually nvm that dont matter cause i assume you didnt. To me the only thing i give Cade the edge is playmaking but even that to me he turns the ball over too much. I think deaaron is the better scorer at all levels, takes the smarter shots, better in the clutch and even though i think Cade is the more versatile defender i still give the slight edge to Deaaron.
@@betweendalinesnbapodcast3733 i think cades clearly the better shooter. CLEARS in the midrange. better in the PnR,major playmaking gap. Gets downhill more (which is crazy) and has the post up wrinkle which is extremely effective. i also think hes better on defense. so i guess the disconnect is i think the scoring gap is smaller and im higher on his defense and playmaking than u
W Marz Harden > Fox
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The question I wanna know is de’aaron a number 1 option or a number 2 option type player? The reason why I asked is because from y’all analysis sound like he’s a better 2nd option than a number 1.
Need sesh over Jordan but not Penn. Penn’s shows are all good, especially w Swipa. Jordan has been better though bc he’s not been yelling all the time, which is appreciated.
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u love couples disputes i see
Top tier show.
Didn’t know Kwahi didn’t beat Jordan and lebron Defense allegations
Good Show today 🔥
1:25:01 was abt to say that title belongs to Matisse
Speak for everyone when I say give nerdsesh more game time!
My superchat was a hypothetical let’s say injury’s don’t exist Kawhi is dominating in the 90s Chill is washed sadly
The nicest thing i ever heard marz say about LeBron James 1:59:09. In utter disbelief
shouldve never said it
@ i knew it wasn’t going to happen again so i just had to take what i can get you know
Major W episode 🙌🏽. Great hoop talk and the ultimate crossover.
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Feel like a lot of the other guests have a hard time blending into the conversations these guys were great though.
NERDSESH 2/2 IN PC COLLABS (shoutout hooptalk podcast, go look at their episode) Y'all better clip that Carson clip about advanced analytics. L Mathsketball L Vorp L Box +/- L Pensare Basketball.
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Damn best show by far this year. Shoutout to the nerdsesh! They everything pen tries to be! Shoutout Carson and Logan🔥🔥🔥🔥
I missed the first hour and half what was the conversations
deaaron fox.
Rewatch!
Chill was Bam was decent in the Olympics not good, he was good in the prelims not the knockout rounds
Are we listing Kai as a PG or SG?
Eternal debate
Chill in that Ron category about talking ball into further notice. Good lord he is bad.
Marz really said that Lamelo and Cade are better than Fox 😂 bruh stop
im not standing on lamelo. im standing on cade though
@ how can you stand on Cade when this season is his first great season in the league? Maybe Cade does wind up being better than Fox, maybe we’ll see but to say he’s already better than Fox is being a prisoner of the moment
@@juyahmadcos i dont need to see 7 seasons to see whos better
@@MarzTalksSports so you thought the past two seasons when the pistons were irrelevant and Cade was in and out of the lineup while Fox help lead the kings back into the playoffs in over a decade and forced the warriors to 7 games while playing great, that Cade was still better than him? Yeah ok 😂
@@MarzTalksSports you’re really underrating Fox. I’m sorry but ONE season does not automatically make you the better player, you got to have consistency and Fox has been consistent
I would trade Sabonis and Fox for sengue, jalen green, cam Whitmore and 2 frp
we good
People talking about castle like he will be great. He is gonna be a good player but will never be as good a fox is right now so what are we talking about
Man all this rocket glaze is getting outta control 😂
Who we blamin’..?😑
Maxey is better than Fox man 🤣🤦🏽♂️
Fox and Lyles to Houston for Freddy V also free Sabonis
1:15:10 Nerdsesh inadvertently calling out pen is hilarious 😂😂
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2025 Bulls 1st rd (top 10 protected)
2025 Hornets 1st rd (lottery protected)
2027 Spurs (Unprotected)
2031 Kings 1st rd (pick swap)
The Spurs are in no rush and don't even have to make a trade. The more the kings wait the lesser return they will receive. I think they need to trade now before the deadline. Doesn't have to the Spurs but take the best package now
they wont receive less from the spurs since its known that fox wants to sign an extension with the spurs since that's his preferred destination when he hits the open market in 26 if he not traded there by then.
Chill, man, I get what you were saying, but then again, I don't. You compared Stephon to Fox and said that's why you wouldn't bring Fox over, but I'm like, why would you keep the fake Fox when you can have the real Fox and pair that with Wemby? Because a pairing of Fox/Wemby would be amazing; the West would have to get ready for that.
Chill, I think you're wrong on this one, OG. If I put peak Kawhi in the 90s on a good team like MJ was on a good team, I think for sure he's challenging MJ for the best in the world title. I think Kawhi's a better defender and a better shooter, but MJ is a better athlete and playmaker. But, idk, OG, I think MJ would have a tough time.
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Tell OG that's with all due respect but it's closer than he thinks
oh chill oh chill when will the bad takes end
So Amen is Josh hart with Bounce !
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Chill just hates Kawhi I’m convinced.
Nope
Tired of these LeBron glazers that think just because LeBron is considered the goat by many that means he's better than everybody at all aspects of basektball most bron fans are sheeps.
Are we just not watching Cade or is Fox doing something I’m not seeing, Shouldn’t even Entertained A Brunson/Fox convo in 2025
yeah i must be missing sum w deaaron,which is definitely possible. cos i really dont see what chill sees,and ox to a lesser degree
If you think peak lebron and mj were better defender's than peak kawhi defensively congratulations you're on crack.
MJ made all defensive teams 9 times and 1 DPOY. Kawhi made all defensive teams 7 times and 2 DPOYs. The year MJ won the DPOY, he beat out Hakeem.
To hold the opinion that MJ was the superior defender doesn't mean that you're on crack, more like you're on CBD gummies.
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Man I wasn't going to comment but I can't take this guy anymore.
1. You say Tyrese Haliburton has been balling and everyone has been quiet, but you were the main one talking negative about Tyrese and you haven't been bringing him up.
2. You claim you don't watch the G league but constantly have Bronny James name in your mouth. Which one is it, Do we talk about other productive players or we don't.
3. That question to chill was very disingenuous. Why ask him why he has LeBron as the goat over Jordan because he doesn't think Kawhi is a better defender than Jordan? As if there is not other elements to the game of basketball.
Players choice Shaq please come back, you're the only one that doesn't let him get away with this.
lol okay. ur right i havent brought up hali,i definitely wasnt the main one talking bad about him though and i still stand by all my critiques of his game (besides the defense) i was just never as high on him to begin with.
I barely said anything ab bronny,and when i did i made a joke lmao,if jokes bother u thats tough.
Reason i said the goat stuff is cos i was under the assumption that kawhi was good on defense so if MJ>kawhi on defense with how good mj is offensively id struggle to see how chill would have bron as the goat,obviously i then found out he thinks bron better on defense too.
Im thankful that im so unbearable you just had to comment
I do understand the harden glaze this year from yall😂 mf is shioting 39% from the field. I appreciate the playmaking but yall be saying hes having a great season
Bring back peeweedaplug from numbers on the board @Ron @Claire
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