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WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! Let me get this perfectly straight: You comment something that is completely unrelated to the fact that I have two HAZARDOUSLY HOT girlfriends? Considering that I am the unprettiest TH-camr worldwide, it is really incredible. Yet you did not mention it at all. I am VERY disappointed, dear bmc
@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial hey it might of been that branch you tossed in that caused a reaction I noticed that when you placed the piece of wood inside it started a reaction right away. Tiny bubbles started forming almost instantly. 15:09
@@israelmartinez4097 nah, a piece of dry wood wouldn’t react. It has something to do with pouring the second layer on top of the first one that isn’t cured but already hot.
@@psyko2666 I'm pretty sure Brent has an episode on epoxy chemistry already. But I think the thing is, don't add the alcohol. It probably works fine when thinner and the alcohol evaporates in time, but that much epoxy will get really hot and cure quickly.
So Brent, being the resident mini painting chemist, what's your opinion on what caused the second epoxy layer to go arseways? (Arseways is totally the correct IUPAC technical term)
Uses toilet pipe, has a shitty experience with resin. Project is at risk of going down the shitter. Will shit get sorted out? Watch until the end for the reveal!
I agree. While you lost all the details you added in the bottom of the pipe, the bubbles add a certain "ick" to the look, like that water truly stinks.
I think Jeremy and Brent from goobertown need to sit down and have an epoxy experiment day to figure out why these things keep happening and how best to pour resin
Vids like these from Jeremy are why I like BMC so much. He freely admits that sh*t happens, and sometimes builds do not go as planned. Unlike some other content creators I won't mention who seem to put out polished, perfect builds in their videos. I think we learn more from our failures than our successes. Great Job, Jeremy!!
That diorama is absolutely stunning, even more so knowing that it almost didn't survive. You never fail to amaze, and are the sole inspiration for me getting into crafting and making, like I used to when I was a kid. Keep up the inspiring work!
The best artist is the one that makes the mistakes not look like mistakes and are great and intentional additions to the scene !!! You are a true Artist!
Sometimes, hiding a flickering LED in the back under the "water level" would help you to see the underwater terrain and give you another visual aspect and dimension, nice save on this one! Great project and execution!.
Its always good that even if you feel like your "down the creek without a boat let alone a paddle" still persist and if needs be take a breather and then go back to it and things will hopefully fall into place.
Random thought about making this more complicated... and even a bit more cool. Drill out a hole above the rat, say a couple centimeters across. Use a bit of granny grating to create a grill or grate in the hole. Put a light source above the grate (maybe cool light, like moonlight) to shine down and illuminate the interior, casting shadows through the grate. Otherwise, really cool.
Massive respect for fixing this instead of smashing it into pieces. Thanks for sharing your mistakes as well it must be a hard thing to show but it is all the more inspiring. Congratulations.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate your inclusions of your errors, mistakes and general failures on the journey to incredible works. As a fairly new hobbyist I tend to make many screw ups and utter messes of my projects and it has been super important to see Craftsman, such as yourself, that I aspire to make similar flubs as I do. It gives me confidence and helps me push through to the end. So thank you. Love everything you do, brother.
I love this result. You mentioned "thin bricks" for the inner layer and I've done such things by first setting my boundaries (H x W x L) on any thicker piece of XPS, then carving my stone or brick the good old fashion way. You know, with a pencil :) The trick comes when you get that Proxon and plane down right behind your carving job and you get a thin, sometimes very flexible, sheet of bricks you can wrap around or in this case, inside the pipe. Quick and dirty facade.
So by looking though the comments lots of other followers like me appreciate that you show the things that don't go as expected. This has made me a better hobbyist. Thanks for sharing your work with us, and the piece looks super cool!
Perfectly grungy, dank sewer diorama in the end. Nice job! AVG is in my top 3 for STL mini's. The level of detail and the volume and diversity of mini's you get is so worth the monthly subscription.
There needs to be an Eye of the Tiger type song for crafting/mini painting videos- I was so gutted when I saw the epoxy go totally screwball on you only to be elated by your dogged determination not to let that amazing build & mini go to waste :) I'm glad you've found a new joy in painting cos that passion is wonderful to see. Keep up the great gnarly ratmen builds!!
I'm pretty sure that it must have been so satisfying to see the end result of this, it looks GREAT!!! Thanks for sharing the complete process, including the frustrating parts.
Correcting my various cut corners and mistakes made during the start of my builds is how I always end my week--I wasn't aware that it's possible to have anything go smoothly!
I love the fact that you share every high and low of your projects. It shows that eveybody makes mistakes and that you can still salvage stuff even when it goes wrong (and in some cases the it might even be a 'happy little accident', like on this build :) ) Awesome build and video as always! (The reason the resin turned milky is likely due to the alcohol in the lower layer diffusing into the upper layer without proper mixing.)
thanks for sharing your opportunities to practice emergency recovery procedures! I learn best from trying and making mistakes (a lot of them!) and hearing someone else admit they sometimes get results less than they wanted to boosts my crafting morale. I appreciate the tips, tricks, techniques and realistic "stuff happens" dialog. Have a great day!
I really love this one, Jeremy! An epic sewer build! I've been watching Master Luke (Towan) for some time now and planning a diorama. But not until I started watching BMC did I actually start making anything. Your channel is very inspiring and inspired me to so far build several things! After losing my eyesight in the left and roughly 1/3 of it in the right I've given up airbrush illustration. After watching several BMC videos though I started getting inspired to create again! Thank you, Jeremy!
Ooo you should of had the water rain down the ends of the pipe! That would look amazing!!! Either way I absolutely enjoyed watching this build! I love your work so much. 😍
Those oil-washes are tip-top, and the finished diorama is cracking. I like the way that the raft is only just managing to stay afloat. As soon as I saw the white layer, I thought, "Lard Burg" :D Now I'm planning on having a wandering Lard Burg next time I send PCs in to a sewer.
Well worth the extra effort to salvage it. I rally like the bubbly/filthy look of the second pour. Also, rubber trashed epoxy painted green looks usable as a sort of algae flocking (?)
So much to learn from errors that I wonder why there aren’t more of videos like this. I spend so much time just correcting errors and this is another helpful guideline to that knowledge.
I guess most people think if they're making a video showing how to do something that it has to go perfectly so they look professional and like they know what they're talking about.
That's a great recovery on the project, turned out awesome looking. Had an 'oops' moment myself at the weekend and ended up painstakingly trying to patch a glaze on some horns on the first mini I've done in a while that I could actually be proud of... And went through all the stages of 'this is awful', 'argh I'm an idiot', 'can I salvage this?'... but I persevered and ended up with something you'd never know was patched and I'm still super proud of the paint job, and honestly the mistake did almost as much as the rest of the paint job to get me out of a hobby slump.
It's crazy how you can use a tool or material a hundred times without incident and then one day it just goes haywire. Love these recovery videos! So nice to know experienced crafters experience the unexpected. It's all about how you pivot and deliver anyway! Amazing vignette and awesome mini!
Jeremy of BMC: turning 5-min epoxy mishaps into immersive scenery since 2015 😉 The leftovers from the first pour have only added to the atmosphere of it all - the dirty sewers, as they should be! P.S. Love to see you enjoying the new oil washes technique on both mini & the terrain. That truly inspires to try them out sooner. Also, that ever subtle flush SFX couldn't find a more appropriate project than this.
I'm so glad this came out great in the end. I'm a huge fan of Archvillian games so it's awesome to see you make something cool based around one of their minis
Awesome build - really. Regarding the whitening of the pour: I got the same problem with some realistic water (basically the same thing) which turned white at the edges of a pretty big diorama - I planned to simply cut out the water and replace it with a new batch, but the project dragged on, and when it was time to cut, the white parts had disappeared. I honestly think that had you waited a bit longer, the white part of your pour would have been gone too. But I recognize the feeling there - a slight panic...
I love him, he reminds me of the rats in the sewers under Dalaran (WoW) nice recover, I love it when artists share their mistakes along with their successes. Great job, would love to see a whole series
Fantastic diorama idea. Well painted whatever you say. And the way you brought it back from disaster was inspiring. All in all an excelent video. All the best.
Wow! Yeah, I could 100 per cent see how that could have been totally demoralizing, and good on you for not just chucking the entire thing at the wall, lol! (which i'm sure many would have in frustration). Showing mistakes (that sometimes aren't in one's control) and persevering through to still make something amazing is an awesome video. The end product is boss! Love it. Lots of inspiration there for terrain pieces on a gaming table for sure with a few modifications. Something similar on a Mordheim or Necromunda board would be amazing (although the resin would have to spill out or something else, lol).
Oof, I can relate. Last week I had some really big issues with water in my favorite mini ever. It was so stressful, but I'm glad I could fix it. Great job with this one, it looks amazing!
This turned out great, glad you stuck with it. I've never made any dioramas but seeing the ones you make on here really makes me want to try my hand at it, it seems like a really fun creative outlet.
Next up, a foot of pipe cut sideways as a similar display base for the entire rat gang :D Sink some magnets to a sewer walkway, clear acrylic rectangle with hinges on the front and it'll double as a carry case to take to friends!
I love your stuff-ups. Not because I’m a bastard, but because you almost always seem to come up with a solution (and because I’m prone to stuffing things up myself). I really enjoy all your videos Jeremy. Keep ‘em coming.
You have no idea how much your failures to saved projects mean to me. I became a patron to Archvillian after your Torment video and they're the best sculptors I've subscribed to hands down.
Since you've just started using oil washes... did you check how the epoxy would react to oil? It can take days, even weeks for oil to fully cure, might be that the epoxy drew something out of it that floated on top.
Funnily enough I'm doing almost this exact thing for my Skaven Blood Bowl pitch. Will be doing two versions - the more detailed one will look similar to yours and the simpler one will be more papercraft based. Good job! Love your work!
You mentioned the long drying time of oil washes being an issue - try the Fast Drying Thinner (from Abteilung 502), it speeds up the work by more than a bit.
it turned out pretty great! :D A small dim LED light behind that grate would look awesome! Maybe one that flickers like a flame, and have it obscured, like some strange light is coming from inside the pipe somewhere :D
Adding a manhole to the top and placing an LED like sunlight shining down would have worked rather than pulling out your original pour. The light color of the water effects would have bounced light inside illuminating everything from the bottom in addition to the direct light coming down. Scenes like this meant to be viewed from a single position are the easiest to use artificial light on. Very cool vignette you've put together and your oil technique is coming along nicely. Thanks for another good crafting vid.
Zatcaskagoon miniatures has great tutorials for working with oil paints and washes in a grimdark style. One tip I got from his videos was using a specific oil paint line called abteilung 502 because it's made specifically for modeling. It dries much faster than other oil paints. And they are reasonably priced.
With the second layer on the first pour going milky white I would guess that it is because of one of the following possibilities: 1) Due the first layer was too far into its chemical reaction the given off from it caused an adverse effect in that second layers chemical reaction. 2) The second layer being only a epoxy & thinner mixture (no inks used) it caused elements of the oil wash to have a delayed interaction with it due to those washes not being fully cured. 3) Maybe a bad tube of epoxy used for the second layer of the first pour. 4) Possibly combinations of the above. But in the end you pushed on and ended up with a great looking diorama. It is how we deal with failure that really show who we are and helps us to grow even more. Thank you for always showing us the stumbling blocks you run into and how you deal with them.
I’ve been thinking along the lines of #1. Could be a chemical reaction between two epoxies and a different point of kick, or simply heat from first one causing something on second layer.
The barrels were "barrel-y" visible anymore. Yah missed an awesome Dad joke opportunity ;) looks awesome! That wheel sold me on this months AV release!
If you don't know, you can buy a product called Liquin, that will increase the drying time for oil paints over five times faster. Completely safe to use, the oils might get a slight pastel color, but you won't notice it. You should also buy Abteilung502, those oil paints are made for miniature painting and have much less linseed oil in it, that way you can paint your mini during breakfast and before dinner it's completely dry. If you want to experiement further, use enamel washes and filters, they give some great and easy effects too!
Second best kind of BMC videos (well, maybe rank this as 1 1/2 because passion for idea and those are the best ones) - where you learn that even super-skilled crafters encounter setbacks and there is almost always a fix. (and that nothing is usually as bad as it seems at first)
Have you tried speeding up the oil wash drying time by using the gentler heat of a hairdryer? I've seen some 1/64 scale model car customizers using them. Brilliant little diorama! So glad you managed to rescue it. I used to go urbexing, when I was younger - I've been in similar sewers to that. No humungous rats like that - the ones that were down there were big enough.
really awesome man! I think the top layer trapped the evaporating alcohol into the bottom layer, since the top layer was a hair thicker and thus cured faster. the look was really cool tho
Nice save! Little tip I learned the hard way. When using the cheap 5 min. epoxy, try keeping it no thicker than 10mm (insert inches here). It keeps it from boiling when curing and you get a much clearer result. When cured, you can just repeat the process until you reached the level you want.
Great save there Jeremy! It actually looked super cool all crystallized once you'd cleaned it out and an almost completely clear resin over the top would have looked great at that point, but it turned out awesome regardless! :D
Possible the organic you threw in the top lyre is what reacted with the epoxy. NickZemmiti has had similar things happen with things being too green and causing a reaction. Great vid!!
Fantastic concept! Always love dioramas built within an object. It's like the space constraint forces you to think differently about the whole process. And nice save on the epoxy! I had a resin disaster recently too which I thankfully was able to save by cutting off the top half off the intended water depth, but certainly wasn't ideal!
I have been investing in some stained glass tinting stuff for my future resin pours. I assume I would have better luck with that stuff? The pink bottles that I made look pretty neat.
I'm not sure if you have tried Poly-Optic® Clear Casting Resin from Brick in the Yard mold supply. It cures very very quickly and its pretty clear. I would suggest using alcohol ink to tink your resin, the acrylic ink has a lot of H20. H20 and resin don't mix 😊 If you want an opaque color you can use dry pigment powders. Just sharing what I know.. uninvited advice sorry 😊
To speed up Oil washes check out Fine Detail Liquin, Its an oil Medium that speeds up the drying of oils. Not sure how it would work on models, but with canvas oil painting I found my glazes with liquin to dry within a day.
Great idea, Got me thinking I should dig out one of the Skaven poison wind globadiers and do something similar, maybe with poison green clouds in the background and some OSL on the globes... two things I've never attempted, OSL and electrical lighting. Glad you managed to get it back to where you were happy with it, though it didn't help with my fear of using epoxy :D
For the bricks next time build the brick wall flat on wax paper a bit over sized then press the tube down onto leaving an impression the trim to size and you have a perfect fit and less awkward brick laying . Love the channel keep up the good work
Most artists oils are made for highly absorbant canvases, so they contain extra linseed oil. Unfortunately when applied to plastic or resin, which doesn't absorb the oil, they take a hell of a long time to dry. Some companies (abetlung 502 is the example I know) produce mini-specific oils, and they work wonders, without the crazy drying time
Thanks for the inspiration! And thanks for showing us the oops. It honestly makes me personally feel like the oops I make in my crafting isn't terrible. It's all just a learning curve! :)
Low cost product has unreliable result! Dude, that is an excellent piece - great save! Sewer water shouldn't be clear, so the brownish tint of the final mix is perfect. Could the problem have been a reaction with whatever you thin the oils with? Brent may know.
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WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! Let me get this perfectly straight: You comment something that is completely unrelated to the fact that I have two HAZARDOUSLY HOT girlfriends? Considering that I am the unprettiest TH-camr worldwide, it is really incredible. Yet you did not mention it at all. I am VERY disappointed, dear bmc
Try glass paint in your resin next time. It's paint meant for painting on glass.
@@RPRsChannel that’s not the issue. This isn’t resin, it’s epoxy and you can mix in water based paints and inks.
@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial hey it might of been that branch you tossed in that caused a reaction I noticed that when you placed the piece of wood inside it started a reaction right away. Tiny bubbles started forming almost instantly. 15:09
@@israelmartinez4097 nah, a piece of dry wood wouldn’t react. It has something to do with pouring the second layer on top of the first one that isn’t cured but already hot.
Broski, this came out awesome!!! wooooo!!!!
We need a "How epoxy goes wrong and how to prevent it!" vid from our favorite painting chemist!
I see you in every comments section on his channel and am 100% loving it.
@@psyko2666 I'm pretty sure Brent has an episode on epoxy chemistry already. But I think the thing is, don't add the alcohol. It probably works fine when thinner and the alcohol evaporates in time, but that much epoxy will get really hot and cure quickly.
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So Brent, being the resident mini painting chemist, what's your opinion on what caused the second epoxy layer to go arseways? (Arseways is totally the correct IUPAC technical term)
I like the oops you share with us. Great job salvaging what some of us would have scrapped and either started over or given up on.
One of the things I love about your work, Jeremy, is you show the bad as well as the good, and some interesting things to try and recover.
Uses toilet pipe, has a shitty experience with resin. Project is at risk of going down the shitter. Will shit get sorted out? Watch until the end for the reveal!
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That's some dedication to shitposting.
I really like the way this turned out. The bubbles look good, like the water is being aerate by the drains.
I agree. While you lost all the details you added in the bottom of the pipe, the bubbles add a certain "ick" to the look, like that water truly stinks.
16:05 despair
16:14 anger
16:20 determination
18:00 gratefulness
18:20 success
18:40 pride
18:42 happiness
18:44 relief
That was a roller coaster, baby! :D
I know, right!
I think Jeremy and Brent from goobertown need to sit down and have an epoxy experiment day to figure out why these things keep happening and how best to pour resin
Vids like these from Jeremy are why I like BMC so much. He freely admits that sh*t happens, and sometimes builds do not go as planned. Unlike some other content creators I won't mention who seem to put out polished, perfect builds in their videos. I think we learn more from our failures than our successes. Great Job, Jeremy!!
That diorama is absolutely stunning, even more so knowing that it almost didn't survive.
You never fail to amaze, and are the sole inspiration for me getting into crafting and making, like I used to when I was a kid. Keep up the inspiring work!
How many swear words were uttered at 16:00. Still turned out really good man! Nice recovery.
My favourite part of this video was seeing how Jeremy did not quit on this project.
The best artist is the one that makes the mistakes not look like mistakes and are great and intentional additions to the scene !!! You are a true Artist!
A "happy little accident," as one might put it. ;-)
Sometimes, hiding a flickering LED in the back under the "water level" would help you to see the underwater terrain and give you another visual aspect and dimension, nice save on this one! Great project and execution!.
Its always good that even if you feel like your "down the creek without a boat let alone a paddle" still persist and if needs be take a breather and then go back to it and things will hopefully fall into place.
Random thought about making this more complicated... and even a bit more cool. Drill out a hole above the rat, say a couple centimeters across. Use a bit of granny grating to create a grill or grate in the hole. Put a light source above the grate (maybe cool light, like moonlight) to shine down and illuminate the interior, casting shadows through the grate. Otherwise, really cool.
Massive respect for fixing this instead of smashing it into pieces. Thanks for sharing your mistakes as well it must be a hard thing to show but it is all the more inspiring. Congratulations.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate your inclusions of your errors, mistakes and general failures on the journey to incredible works. As a fairly new hobbyist I tend to make many screw ups and utter messes of my projects and it has been super important to see Craftsman, such as yourself, that I aspire to make similar flubs as I do. It gives me confidence and helps me push through to the end. So thank you. Love everything you do, brother.
This looks amazing think the semi opaque look fits the setting well
I love this result. You mentioned "thin bricks" for the inner layer and I've done such things by first setting my boundaries (H x W x L) on any thicker piece of XPS, then carving my stone or brick the good old fashion way. You know, with a pencil :) The trick comes when you get that Proxon and plane down right behind your carving job and you get a thin, sometimes very flexible, sheet of bricks you can wrap around or in this case, inside the pipe. Quick and dirty facade.
Awwwwsome, “patients, persistence and perspiration make an unbearable combination foe success” wise words from Napoleon Hill.
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So by looking though the comments lots of other followers like me appreciate that you show the things that don't go as expected. This has made me a better hobbyist. Thanks for sharing your work with us, and the piece looks super cool!
Perfectly grungy, dank sewer diorama in the end. Nice job! AVG is in my top 3 for STL mini's. The level of detail and the volume and diversity of mini's you get is so worth the monthly subscription.
BMC: Did a thing better than anything I've ever done
Also BMC: Everybody fails sometimes
There needs to be an Eye of the Tiger type song for crafting/mini painting videos- I was so gutted when I saw the epoxy go totally screwball on you only to be elated by your dogged determination not to let that amazing build & mini go to waste :) I'm glad you've found a new joy in painting cos that passion is wonderful to see. Keep up the great gnarly ratmen builds!!
I'm pretty sure that it must have been so satisfying to see the end result of this, it looks GREAT!!! Thanks for sharing the complete process, including the frustrating parts.
Correcting my various cut corners and mistakes made during the start of my builds is how I always end my week--I wasn't aware that it's possible to have anything go smoothly!
I love the fact that you share every high and low of your projects. It shows that eveybody makes mistakes and that you can still salvage stuff even when it goes wrong (and in some cases the it might even be a 'happy little accident', like on this build :) )
Awesome build and video as always!
(The reason the resin turned milky is likely due to the alcohol in the lower layer diffusing into the upper layer without proper mixing.)
thanks for sharing your opportunities to practice emergency recovery procedures! I learn best from trying and making mistakes (a lot of them!) and hearing someone else admit they sometimes get results less than they wanted to boosts my crafting morale. I appreciate the tips, tricks, techniques and realistic "stuff happens" dialog. Have a great day!
I really love this one, Jeremy! An epic sewer build! I've been watching Master Luke (Towan) for some time now and planning a diorama. But not until I started watching BMC did I actually start making anything. Your channel is very inspiring and inspired me to so far build several things! After losing my eyesight in the left and roughly 1/3 of it in the right I've given up airbrush illustration. After watching several BMC videos though I started getting inspired to create again! Thank you, Jeremy!
Ooo you should of had the water rain down the ends of the pipe! That would look amazing!!! Either way I absolutely enjoyed watching this build! I love your work so much. 😍
Gutsy move on that second pour. Well done. Well done indeed. Turned out great.
Those oil-washes are tip-top, and the finished diorama is cracking. I like the way that the raft is only just managing to stay afloat.
As soon as I saw the white layer, I thought, "Lard Burg" :D Now I'm planning on having a wandering Lard Burg next time I send PCs in to a sewer.
Excellent job with the painting!!!!!! Glad you're now enjoying painting!!!
"Task failed successfully!" :D really love the outcome. Great job! Best example of never giving up whether you think you mess up!
I had a similar problem this week and watching this made me feel a lot better about my mistake
The crafting gods: That’s a nice project you got there. It’d be a damn shame if something were to happen to that... >:)
You should totally make a war band with those rat people that would be the coolest thing ever 🔥🔥🔥
Well worth the extra effort to salvage it. I rally like the bubbly/filthy look of the second pour. Also, rubber trashed epoxy painted green looks usable as a sort of algae flocking (?)
So much to learn from errors that I wonder why there aren’t more of videos like this. I spend so much time just correcting errors and this is another helpful guideline to that knowledge.
I guess most people think if they're making a video showing how to do something that it has to go perfectly so they look professional and like they know what they're talking about.
Nice! Those bubbles actually make sense with the water pouring in from the left.
That's a great recovery on the project, turned out awesome looking. Had an 'oops' moment myself at the weekend and ended up painstakingly trying to patch a glaze on some horns on the first mini I've done in a while that I could actually be proud of... And went through all the stages of 'this is awful', 'argh I'm an idiot', 'can I salvage this?'... but I persevered and ended up with something you'd never know was patched and I'm still super proud of the paint job, and honestly the mistake did almost as much as the rest of the paint job to get me out of a hobby slump.
It's crazy how you can use a tool or material a hundred times without incident and then one day it just goes haywire. Love these recovery videos! So nice to know experienced crafters experience the unexpected. It's all about how you pivot and deliver anyway! Amazing vignette and awesome mini!
Jeremy of BMC: turning 5-min epoxy mishaps into immersive scenery since 2015 😉
The leftovers from the first pour have only added to the atmosphere of it all - the dirty sewers, as they should be!
P.S. Love to see you enjoying the new oil washes technique on both mini & the terrain. That truly inspires to try them out sooner. Also, that ever subtle flush SFX couldn't find a more appropriate project than this.
This is definitely in my top favorites, making small pieces to display sounds way more enjoyable considering the small space I have to work with.
I'm so glad this came out great in the end. I'm a huge fan of Archvillian games so it's awesome to see you make something cool based around one of their minis
Awesome build - really. Regarding the whitening of the pour: I got the same problem with some realistic water (basically the same thing) which turned white at the edges of a pretty big diorama - I planned to simply cut out the water and replace it with a new batch, but the project dragged on, and when it was time to cut, the white parts had disappeared. I honestly think that had you waited a bit longer, the white part of your pour would have been gone too. But I recognize the feeling there - a slight panic...
I love him, he reminds me of the rats in the sewers under Dalaran (WoW) nice recover, I love it when artists share their mistakes along with their successes. Great job, would love to see a whole series
Fantastic diorama idea. Well painted whatever you say. And the way you brought it back from disaster was inspiring. All in all an excelent video. All the best.
Using the pipe for a little dio is such a great idea that I’ll definitely use for something cool!
Thanks for sharing the struggles as well as the triumphs! Awesome build!
Wow! Yeah, I could 100 per cent see how that could have been totally demoralizing, and good on you for not just chucking the entire thing at the wall, lol! (which i'm sure many would have in frustration). Showing mistakes (that sometimes aren't in one's control) and persevering through to still make something amazing is an awesome video.
The end product is boss! Love it. Lots of inspiration there for terrain pieces on a gaming table for sure with a few modifications. Something similar on a Mordheim or Necromunda board would be amazing (although the resin would have to spill out or something else, lol).
Always great to see when the people you learn from have setbacks! Thanks for sharing the whole process, love this little diorama 🐀
Oof, I can relate. Last week I had some really big issues with water in my favorite mini ever. It was so stressful, but I'm glad I could fix it. Great job with this one, it looks amazing!
Alumalite is a fantastic epoxy for a pour- and it can be tinted into the right sewer-water color!
This video was an excellent lesson in the perils of crafting and trusting your instincts. Truly excellent save
This turned out great, glad you stuck with it. I've never made any dioramas but seeing the ones you make on here really makes me want to try my hand at it, it seems like a really fun creative outlet.
Next up, a foot of pipe cut sideways as a similar display base for the entire rat gang :D Sink some magnets to a sewer walkway, clear acrylic rectangle with hinges on the front and it'll double as a carry case to take to friends!
I love your stuff-ups. Not because I’m a bastard, but because you almost always seem to come up with a solution (and because I’m prone to stuffing things up myself). I really enjoy all your videos Jeremy. Keep ‘em coming.
You have no idea how much your failures to saved projects mean to me. I became a patron to Archvillian after your Torment video and they're the best sculptors I've subscribed to hands down.
That was an EPIC save! Well done man! 👍🤘
Since you've just started using oil washes... did you check how the epoxy would react to oil? It can take days, even weeks for oil to fully cure, might be that the epoxy drew something out of it that floated on top.
Especially with the addition of alcohol
@@chriscordeiro1052 yeah
Funnily enough I'm doing almost this exact thing for my Skaven Blood Bowl pitch. Will be doing two versions - the more detailed one will look similar to yours and the simpler one will be more papercraft based.
Good job! Love your work!
You mentioned the long drying time of oil washes being an issue - try the Fast Drying Thinner (from Abteilung 502), it speeds up the work by more than a bit.
That rat king mini, if put on a throne carried by slaving servants, could look seriously cool as a addition to ur nurgle army....just an idea
I’m thinking of converting the big naked rat for a beast of nurgle. The “king” would make a great prince too.
@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial I luv it! the whole sewage aesthetic gives serious nurgle vibes :D
it turned out pretty great! :D A small dim LED light behind that grate would look awesome! Maybe one that flickers like a flame, and have it obscured, like some strange light is coming from inside the pipe somewhere :D
Adding a manhole to the top and placing an LED like sunlight shining down would have worked rather than pulling out your original pour. The light color of the water effects would have bounced light inside illuminating everything from the bottom in addition to the direct light coming down. Scenes like this meant to be viewed from a single position are the easiest to use artificial light on. Very cool vignette you've put together and your oil technique is coming along nicely. Thanks for another good crafting vid.
Zatcaskagoon miniatures has great tutorials for working with oil paints and washes in a grimdark style. One tip I got from his videos was using a specific oil paint line called abteilung 502 because it's made specifically for modeling. It dries much faster than other oil paints. And they are reasonably priced.
Loved this project!!! The "failure" made the sewer look extra "poopy"....in a good sewer-y way
With the second layer on the first pour going milky white I would guess that it is because of one of the following possibilities:
1) Due the first layer was too far into its chemical reaction the given off from it caused an adverse effect in that second layers chemical reaction.
2) The second layer being only a epoxy & thinner mixture (no inks used) it caused elements of the oil wash to have a delayed interaction with it due to those washes not being fully cured.
3) Maybe a bad tube of epoxy used for the second layer of the first pour.
4) Possibly combinations of the above.
But in the end you pushed on and ended up with a great looking diorama. It is how we deal with failure that really show who we are and helps us to grow even more. Thank you for always showing us the stumbling blocks you run into and how you deal with them.
I’ve been thinking along the lines of #1. Could be a chemical reaction between two epoxies and a different point of kick, or simply heat from first one causing something on second layer.
The barrels were "barrel-y" visible anymore. Yah missed an awesome Dad joke opportunity ;) looks awesome! That wheel sold me on this months AV release!
If you don't know, you can buy a product called Liquin, that will increase the drying time for oil paints over five times faster. Completely safe to use, the oils might get a slight pastel color, but you won't notice it.
You should also buy Abteilung502, those oil paints are made for miniature painting and have much less linseed oil in it, that way you can paint your mini during breakfast and before dinner it's completely dry.
If you want to experiement further, use enamel washes and filters, they give some great and easy effects too!
Archvillain was my first patreon when I got my 3D printer and it was thanks to you. This month is a treat!
Second best kind of BMC videos (well, maybe rank this as 1 1/2 because passion for idea and those are the best ones) - where you learn that even super-skilled crafters encounter setbacks and there is almost always a fix. (and that nothing is usually as bad as it seems at first)
Have you tried speeding up the oil wash drying time by using the gentler heat of a hairdryer? I've seen some 1/64 scale model car customizers using them.
Brilliant little diorama! So glad you managed to rescue it. I used to go urbexing, when I was younger - I've been in similar sewers to that. No humungous rats like that - the ones that were down there were big enough.
really awesome man! I think the top layer trapped the evaporating alcohol into the bottom layer, since the top layer was a hair thicker and thus cured faster. the look was really cool tho
Nice save!
Little tip I learned the hard way.
When using the cheap 5 min. epoxy, try keeping it no thicker than 10mm (insert inches here). It keeps it from boiling when curing and you get a much clearer result. When cured, you can just repeat the process until you reached the level you want.
Yea, I think heat from large amount causes most issues with this stuff. My runner pours always turn out great.
Great build, Jeremy. Gives me so many great ideas and techniques to try. Thanks for sharing this.
Great save there Jeremy! It actually looked super cool all crystallized once you'd cleaned it out and an almost completely clear resin over the top would have looked great at that point, but it turned out awesome regardless! :D
Possible the organic you threw in the top lyre is what reacted with the epoxy. NickZemmiti has had similar things happen with things being too green and causing a reaction. Great vid!!
What a fantastic finished piece! It might not be what you had originally planned but still a fantastic result and well recovered
Nice work, I love the perseverance videos. Shows how a craftsman can adapt and overcome what many would consider a lost cause. Cheers.
Fantastic concept! Always love dioramas built within an object. It's like the space constraint forces you to think differently about the whole process. And nice save on the epoxy! I had a resin disaster recently too which I thankfully was able to save by cutting off the top half off the intended water depth, but certainly wasn't ideal!
I have been investing in some stained glass tinting stuff for my future resin pours. I assume I would have better luck with that stuff? The pink bottles that I made look pretty neat.
I'm not sure if you have tried Poly-Optic® Clear Casting Resin from Brick in the Yard mold supply. It cures very very quickly and its pretty clear. I would suggest using alcohol ink to tink your resin, the acrylic ink has a lot of H20. H20 and resin don't mix 😊 If you want an opaque color you can use dry pigment powders. Just sharing what I know.. uninvited advice sorry 😊
To speed up Oil washes check out Fine Detail Liquin, Its an oil Medium that speeds up the drying of oils. Not sure how it would work on models, but with canvas oil painting I found my glazes with liquin to dry within a day.
Great idea, Got me thinking I should dig out one of the Skaven poison wind globadiers and do something similar, maybe with poison green clouds in the background and some OSL on the globes... two things I've never attempted, OSL and electrical lighting. Glad you managed to get it back to where you were happy with it, though it didn't help with my fear of using epoxy :D
Came out really great! The swampy water looks perfect
I love those Skaven-esk models. I'd totally buy em if I had a job.
Absolutely great outcome, and I am going to definitely try my own version of it...Thanks for the ideas
Love this sculpt! Glad you were able to salvage it!
That diorama looks awesome.
I've had my own issues with resin - its a harsh mistress. Good work on saving this one!
For the bricks next time build the brick wall flat on wax paper a bit over sized then press the tube down onto leaving an impression the trim to size and you have a perfect fit and less awkward brick laying . Love the channel keep up the good work
Most artists oils are made for highly absorbant canvases, so they contain extra linseed oil. Unfortunately when applied to plastic or resin, which doesn't absorb the oil, they take a hell of a long time to dry. Some companies (abetlung 502 is the example I know) produce mini-specific oils, and they work wonders, without the crazy drying time
Thanks for the inspiration! And thanks for showing us the oops. It honestly makes me personally feel like the oops I make in my crafting isn't terrible. It's all just a learning curve! :)
ALGORITHM GODS BLESS THIS EXAMPLE OF POSITIVITY AND PERSEVERANCE ON THE INTERNET
Low cost product has unreliable result! Dude, that is an excellent piece - great save! Sewer water shouldn't be clear, so the brownish tint of the final mix is perfect. Could the problem have been a reaction with whatever you thin the oils with? Brent may know.
A toast for your perseverance! Great salvage, it looks pretty damn good! 🖤
Awesome stuff man. I like to really push the "Mistakes are opportunities" in my videos so stuff like this really makes me smile. Keep it up!
Great end result!!🔥🔥🔥
And big respect for not giving up!!💪