Thank you for the video. I have been using their device for a few months now and am very satisfied with its consistent results and lack of maintenance. I appreciate the technology they have built and the wide compatibility list, made it really easy to use the device.
Happy it's working well for you. Also that was a good tip. The calibration of stuff doesn't matter, consistently matters. Hope more people will understand that
First thing everyone always always ask is how accurate is it. Which comes down to how well you calibrate it. Consistency in testing is key as trends have the most value :)
I absolutely love this device! It has been in use for over 6 months now, for about 4 hours daily, and it still works just as well as the day I received it. Thank you for sharing your experience with it, it's reassuring to know that it will continue functioning just as reliably for the next 6 months and beyond. 🤣
Kh mainly, twice a day, I like to test Calcium once a day as well because I have occasional drops.. the rest is for NO3, PO4, and Mg, maybe twice per week each one@@ReefDudes
I'm heading into my 10th month with this device, and I totally agree with what you mentioned. Btw they started sending out extension cords for the power supply a bit later, but they'll probably get one over to you once they see this video 😂. My overall experience, for anyone who's curious, has been fantastic. They've come a long way from their initial product, and this one feels like a perfectly polished device. It's in action daily for KH and semi-daily for ca, po4, nitrates, and ammonia, and all is running smoothly. I get the feeling its lifespan will far outstretch similar products, and with their regular upgrades and enhancements, I don't see other companies keeping up. RK seems dedicated to honing this device, with no distractions on other product lines. Perhaps my biggest wish is for the device to have its own set of reagents. It'd make finding best test kit. For instance, API calcium isn't as precise as Red Sea, but Red Sea involves a bit of dilution due to its powder reagent. The same goes for nitrate tests. So as you said I began caring about consistency rather than chasing a certain value. And maybe they could make it possible to integrate with dosers or APEX controllers, consolidating everything into one hub would be a breeze. So for anyone interested, I strongly recommend this product
Thanks Dev! There's one item I've noted for testing nitrates with this unit. The nitrate reagent that calls for very intensive shaking (usually bottle #2) should only be stored in the 20ml cylindrical vial, not the 60ml cubical vial. You will see the less soluble particles settle into the corners of the 60ml and the magnetic pill is not powerful enough to suspend them again into the mixture - which invalidates the test reading. Reef Kinetics told me that for this test, they recommend a manual shake before testing.
@@ReefDudes I tried one roughly 3x the length of the included pill without any luck. Thankfully that's the only issue I've had, so it's not a deal breaker. Great unit.
Nice update. It's funny because I heard a lot of negative stuff about the reefbot but you seem happy and I trust your opinion on that.Would you go with mastertronic or reef bot if you had to choose one.
I had a few issues with my original one. The new one (reefbot lab) seems to have fixed all the little issues I had with the original ones. Nice to seem them ever improving!
I'm guessing if it discard the old water from the tank pipe to test only the new one and if it is possible to set the amount of water that need to be discarded (depending on the lenght of the pipe)
The rodi, tank and waste lines, are they needing to be a specific length or can we have it as long or short as we'd like depending on where we put it? Also, im between the mastertronic and this one. Now that you know what you know. Which one would you keep if you had to get rid of one of them? And why? Thanks bro!
I'm also thinking about purchasing a device, but haven't been able to determine how well it can reproduce its measurements. If you run three tests in a row of the same parameter, are they all reasonably equal? When testing multiple times manually, I´m usually in a range of 10ppm on calcium for example. Whats your experience with that?
Yes, basically it is repeating the same sequence over and over again, when I first got it I used to double check each result just to test its consistency
Biggest thing for that is proper gas exchange. A good skimmer and power heads disrupting the surface are the two main things that add oxygen to the water
Been doing some 'testing' with my Trident's reagents. Was always curious to know if pouring the last bit of reagent A into the new bottle would really affect the results as Neptune Systems indicated. After a year of alternating between mixed and unmixed bottles of reagent A, I haven't seen any erratic or swings in the alkalinity readings. So I will continue using the remaining amounts of reagent in the new bottles to get the most usage.
@@ReefDudes Haven't tried it with ca/mag since I'm not using them up at the rate of the alk reagents. I'm doing 2 tests per day...alk in the morning and all 3 in the evening. But I'll experiment with the ca/mag and see what the results are.
Deven, two question for you Sir , if you have the time?. As I seriously consider getting one. I've looked at this thing more than once, and find if very appealing especially after the second version came out. And a lot of information is available on how it works, thanks to solid reviews like this one. Two questions: 1. what's the full testing frequency range: Something like KH, I'd test once or twice a day. Ca or Mg once or twice a week. But for everything else, parameters like Fe or K, I'd only want to test monthly as a base line (unless I suspect a deficiency). Will it accommodate all those different testing ranges? I can't seem to find information on the longest duration available between testing. 2. Export: Simply, does the app allow for export for data analysis or archiving long-term. For example, can I get it to import into MS Excel? I'm not a coral farmer, I don't need everything tested multiple times a week. Which is the number one reason I don't have a trident. However, I do want better insight into long-term trends and to ensure nothing is deficient. Much like we utilize ICP tests. This device seems perfectly placed to accommodate that with the most common tests. Thank you for any additional insight.
Absolutely. I only use weekly but looking into the scheduling options now, hourly, daily, weekly, monthly , yearly so I think your covered for those ranges! To be honest I think this is the first one that o have seen to let you test monthly (bonus!) As for exporting I don’t recall seeing an option but you could likely copy paste from the web interface. I’ll reach out and ask them about it, now I’m curious too :)
@@ReefDudes Thank you very much Sir. Ya, that export was just a nice to know, as you could use other tools outside that one app. But, it was a curiosity. however having both a weekly and a monthly testing option just sold me. I know my next big purchase. I appreciate your time (and content) :)
they send needles with the device, I stacked a bunch and they sent it with the device so I would not have to pay for shipping fees. I tried other needles and it works well, the only problem is finding a long needle that can reach the bottom of the vials, I think this is why they make their own
Has anyone switched from a mastertronic to this? VERY interested in it. The MT is good but the linear actuator fails all the time, plus a lot of other things that are annoying. For those who have switched, how much better/worse is it?
I hope you don’t mind me saying my opinion, but as a user of both, I find that the MT can be compared with the reefbot v1 or v2, but in terms with the RB Lab, the lab is superior, steadier, more consistent, better design and parts, minimal maintenance and calibrating, you can stack tests and they will all run after each others, more compatible tests and parameters, the 60ml vials… MT still have issues with the syringe holder and they use practically everything RK replaced between the v1 and the lab. MT in my opinion is a great device, but if I were to choose which I would keep, I’d choose the lab
I was about to pull the trigger, but $271 for shipping, and your discount code is worth $89.99, not $100. Not a huge deal on the code, but $271 in shipping is insane, I ship daily and that is highway robbery.
Greetings, We utilize DHL Express for shipping, and the shipping costs, unfortunately, are beyond our control, although usually to the US shipping fees are less than the number that you provided. Reef Kinetics assumes responsibility for insuring the device and contributes towards some of the shipping fees. The confusion might stem from our devices being dispatched from Beirut. You can personally verify the shipping rates by entering the device specifications and destination details via DHL. As for the promotional codes, during discounts, promo code benefits undergo slight adjustments as they are calculated based on percentages. We extend a warm invitation for you to join the RK community and experience firsthand the trust, respect, and support we are committed to offering all our users. Best regards,
Hello Peter, we are sorry to learn about this. Can you please provide me with your email address so we can contact you regarding any issue you might have faced? We are dedicated always to providing the required assistance. I would also like to shed lights on the fact that we do not have a phone number for support, the phone numbers provided on the website are redirected to management. Have a great day,
Thank you for the video. I have been using their device for a few months now and am very satisfied with its consistent results and lack of maintenance. I appreciate the technology they have built and the wide compatibility list, made it really easy to use the device.
Thanks for sharing your experiences as well!
Happy it's working well for you. Also that was a good tip. The calibration of stuff doesn't matter, consistently matters. Hope more people will understand that
First thing everyone always always ask is how accurate is it. Which comes down to how well you calibrate it. Consistency in testing is key as trends have the most value :)
I absolutely love this device! It has been in use for over 6 months now, for about 4 hours daily, and it still works just as well as the day I received it. Thank you for sharing your experience with it, it's reassuring to know that it will continue functioning just as reliably for the next 6 months and beyond. 🤣
Great to hear! Daily testing? Your extra hardcore! . Is that for alk mainly or what all do you test daily.?
Kh mainly, twice a day, I like to test Calcium once a day as well because I have occasional drops.. the rest is for NO3, PO4, and Mg, maybe twice per week each one@@ReefDudes
I'm heading into my 10th month with this device, and I totally agree with what you mentioned. Btw they started sending out extension cords for the power supply a bit later, but they'll probably get one over to you once they see this video 😂.
My overall experience, for anyone who's curious, has been fantastic. They've come a long way from their initial product, and this one feels like a perfectly polished device. It's in action daily for KH and semi-daily for ca, po4, nitrates, and ammonia, and all is running smoothly. I get the feeling its lifespan will far outstretch similar products, and with their regular upgrades and enhancements, I don't see other companies keeping up. RK seems dedicated to honing this device, with no distractions on other product lines.
Perhaps my biggest wish is for the device to have its own set of reagents. It'd make finding best test kit. For instance, API calcium isn't as precise as Red Sea, but Red Sea involves a bit of dilution due to its powder reagent. The same goes for nitrate tests. So as you said I began caring about consistency rather than chasing a certain value. And maybe they could make it possible to integrate with dosers or APEX controllers, consolidating everything into one hub would be a breeze. So for anyone interested, I strongly recommend this product
Awesome feedback! On their own reagents I did see Some RK reagents in the list which I suspect may be theirs in the works.
Thanks Dev! There's one item I've noted for testing nitrates with this unit. The nitrate reagent that calls for very intensive shaking (usually bottle #2) should only be stored in the 20ml cylindrical vial, not the 60ml cubical vial. You will see the less soluble particles settle into the corners of the 60ml and the magnetic pill is not powerful enough to suspend them again into the mixture - which invalidates the test reading. Reef Kinetics told me that for this test, they recommend a manual shake before testing.
Intresting. I wonder if you could use a larger stir bar in the 60 ml vial to mix it a bit more
@@ReefDudes I tried one roughly 3x the length of the included pill without any luck. Thankfully that's the only issue I've had, so it's not a deal breaker. Great unit.
Nice update. It's funny because I heard a lot of negative stuff about the reefbot but you seem happy and I trust your opinion on that.Would you go with mastertronic or reef bot if you had to choose one.
I had a few issues with my original one. The new one (reefbot lab) seems to have fixed all the little issues I had with the original ones. Nice to seem them ever improving!
How iit compares against the Mastertronic?
I'm guessing if it discard the old water from the tank pipe to test only the new one and if it is possible to set the amount of water that need to be discarded (depending on the lenght of the pipe)
If you test once a week, is this system using "old" water that's been sitting in the lines or does it purge the intake line every time?
I believe it flushes it but will have to watch it testing to 100% confirm.
The rodi, tank and waste lines, are they needing to be a specific length or can we have it as long or short as we'd like depending on where we put it?
Also, im between the mastertronic and this one. Now that you know what you know. Which one would you keep if you had to get rid of one of them? And why?
Thanks bro!
It is recommended that the sample tube be within 7 feet. However, I have been using 10 feet tubes and it still works well.
Waste you could cut. Most testers want you to keep the sample and tank lines the full length though. Mine are coiled up behind it
@@ReefDudes awesome, thanks! What about which route would you go if needed to get rid of either the mastertronic or reefbot?
I'm also thinking about purchasing a device, but haven't been able to determine how well it can reproduce its measurements. If you run three tests in a row of the same parameter, are they all reasonably equal? When testing multiple times manually, I´m usually in a range of 10ppm on calcium for example. Whats your experience with that?
I can’t say I have ever done 3 back to back but have tested twice in the same day on nutrients with consistent results
Yes, basically it is repeating the same sequence over and over again, when I first got it I used to double check each result just to test its consistency
sounds great, thanks guys!
what kind of device that can make oxygen for fish in big tank
Biggest thing for that is proper gas exchange. A good skimmer and power heads disrupting the surface are the two main things that add oxygen to the water
Been doing some 'testing' with my Trident's reagents. Was always curious to know if pouring the last bit of reagent A into the new bottle would really affect the results as Neptune Systems indicated. After a year of alternating between mixed and unmixed bottles of reagent A, I haven't seen any erratic or swings in the alkalinity readings. So I will continue using the remaining amounts of reagent in the new bottles to get the most usage.
How about with ca/mag? I suspect thsoe may be affected more than alk
@@ReefDudes Haven't tried it with ca/mag since I'm not using them up at the rate of the alk reagents. I'm doing 2 tests per day...alk in the morning and all 3 in the evening. But I'll experiment with the ca/mag and see what the results are.
Same here! I’ve tried all 3 with no issues.
@@ladyaquatica Thanks for that input! Will definitely try it with the ca/mg.
Deven, two question for you Sir , if you have the time?. As I seriously consider getting one. I've looked at this thing more than once, and find if very appealing especially after the second version came out. And a lot of information is available on how it works, thanks to solid reviews like this one. Two questions:
1. what's the full testing frequency range: Something like KH, I'd test once or twice a day. Ca or Mg once or twice a week. But for everything else, parameters like Fe or K, I'd only want to test monthly as a base line (unless I suspect a deficiency). Will it accommodate all those different testing ranges? I can't seem to find information on the longest duration available between testing.
2. Export: Simply, does the app allow for export for data analysis or archiving long-term. For example, can I get it to import into MS Excel?
I'm not a coral farmer, I don't need everything tested multiple times a week. Which is the number one reason I don't have a trident. However, I do want better insight into long-term trends and to ensure nothing is deficient. Much like we utilize ICP tests. This device seems perfectly placed to accommodate that with the most common tests.
Thank you for any additional insight.
Absolutely. I only use weekly but looking into the scheduling options now, hourly, daily, weekly, monthly , yearly so I think your covered for those ranges! To be honest I think this is the first one that o have seen to let you test monthly (bonus!)
As for exporting I don’t recall seeing an option but you could likely copy paste from the web interface. I’ll reach out and ask them about it, now I’m curious too :)
@@ReefDudes Thank you very much Sir. Ya, that export was just a nice to know, as you could use other tools outside that one app. But, it was a curiosity.
however having both a weekly and a monthly testing option just sold me. I know my next big purchase. I appreciate your time (and content) :)
Deven How accurate is the test if you were to compare to other methods please advise thanks Great Video
What are the size/specs of the needles? Can you purchase your own or are they specialty length/gauge like the Mastertronic?
they send needles with the device, I stacked a bunch and they sent it with the device so I would not have to pay for shipping fees. I tried other needles and it works well, the only problem is finding a long needle that can reach the bottom of the vials, I think this is why they make their own
Put electrical tape over the light except for a 1 inch section so you can still get light alerts
Has anyone switched from a mastertronic to this? VERY interested in it. The MT is good but the linear actuator fails all the time, plus a lot of other things that are annoying. For those who have switched, how much better/worse is it?
Thoughts vs. the Mastertronic?
Both have their pros and cons I did do a video or stream a few moths back talking and comparing the different testers
I hope you don’t mind me saying my opinion, but as a user of both, I find that the MT can be compared with the reefbot v1 or v2, but in terms with the RB Lab, the lab is superior, steadier, more consistent, better design and parts, minimal maintenance and calibrating, you can stack tests and they will all run after each others, more compatible tests and parameters, the 60ml vials… MT still have issues with the syringe holder and they use practically everything RK replaced between the v1 and the lab. MT in my opinion is a great device, but if I were to choose which I would keep, I’d choose the lab
For the light just put electrical tape over it and leave a small open area so you can still see when it’s testing.
That would be a an easy fix. Also debated adding a variable resistor to act as a dimmer switch
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I was about to pull the trigger, but $271 for shipping, and your discount code is worth $89.99, not $100. Not a huge deal on the code, but $271 in shipping is insane, I ship daily and that is highway robbery.
Greetings,
We utilize DHL Express for shipping, and the shipping costs, unfortunately, are beyond our control, although usually to the US shipping fees are less than the number that you provided. Reef Kinetics assumes responsibility for insuring the device and contributes towards some of the shipping fees. The confusion might stem from our devices being dispatched from Beirut. You can personally verify the shipping rates by entering the device specifications and destination details via DHL.
As for the promotional codes, during discounts, promo code benefits undergo slight adjustments as they are calculated based on percentages.
We extend a warm invitation for you to join the RK community and experience firsthand the trust, respect, and support we are committed to offering all our users.
Best regards,
This is the worst product I have ever bought it has never worked despite many phone calls. You will never get any back up what so ever
Peter
Hello Peter, we are sorry to learn about this. Can you please provide me with your email address so we can contact you regarding any issue you might have faced? We are dedicated always to providing the required assistance. I would also like to shed lights on the fact that we do not have a phone number for support, the phone numbers provided on the website are redirected to management.
Have a great day,