Man, it’s pretty wild hearing that Seth was gonna be Crim’s best man at his wedding before all of the roster stuff went down. Hopefully they will make amends when this is all said and done.
I believe they’ll make amends, I don’t fight or argue often but when I do, it’s with my best friends. I talk crap on TH-cam but that’s a different story.
I think hecz should do a episode with all 4 of the dynasty members and just get them to have it out and clear the air, would be awesome. ------- Couple of edits: ------- *Thanks for all the likes 🙂 *I agree right now is not the time they are all doing their thing but before it gets too far gone + imagine them 4 playing warzone if they got on would be hilarious *For those thinking I wanted to make a reality TV show out of this not the case. They would have to sort it out behind the scenes to even get together and then just talk about the surface stuff we already knew and clear the air for the fans that way.
H3CZ in honor of the special surprise can we get a round table podcast with the whole fam. Crim included and any others we lost along the way. Maybe it’s to early, maybe better in a few years regardless would be dope
Crimsix is true Optic - cared about winning and the team above all else, other teammates look bad because they weren't team players and cared about individual stats/egos...he leaves and brings a team together and wins it all again.
Changed my whole perspective of Crim. Wow. He understands COD an another level. What he was saying about certain people making the team play better was crazy accurate.
10 years from now we’ll be rooting for Crim and Scumps teams. Watching their podcasts while they talk about CDL going VR and wondering if the new *Anal controls* are OP or not. *WHOS GOING GREY FIRST* ???????
It’s amazing what a narrative can create. I’ll be 100% honest, I didn’t know the full story between Crim and Scump but Scump has always been my favorite player so I stuck with him and saw Crim as this ‘villain’. After hearing this, I just have so much more respect for Crim and what he’s accomplished after all that drama happened. I’m actually disappointed to hear Scump didn’t stick up for his brother the way Crim did for him. I’ve never liked the, ‘others didn’t show up at champs’ comments either. It’s a team game. You win and lose as a team. If you lose, own it as a team. If you need to talk negative about someone, let THAT person do it. You should be helping your brother up. Another great podcast.
This vid made me change the way i’ve been seeing the beef between him and scump. Dude said he was gonna be the best man in his wedding, real shit right there just to throw away for a video game
PaPaCaKeZZ seth and crim dont rely on the actual video game itself for their livelihood they could have a great life still without it. And lets say they do, there’s no reason to end it in a bad way. Seth just shoulda told the guy “hey i don’t think teaming is the right idea” and still be really good friends, rather than not tell him until last minute
This is the best episode this exactly what 2 friends talking feels like its so kool to see respect but not boring.also I loved crim for way to long hes such a good player its scary hes still this good Also hecz with his lil plugins hilarious
Crim’s mind for Call of Duty is unreal. I’ve played CoD for over 8 years and watched pro for 4 and the amount of knowledge and theory that flows out of this guy is nuts.
Crims just misunderstood in an era where it seems like no one truly cares about winning anymore. Even in real sports we see so many players with luxurious contracts playing for theme selves and the money and winning comes last. I feel like it’s all coming together these last few months. Guys like Aches, Gunless and Crim are so under appreciated and will be missed dearly when they’re gone. There’s very few people that will do anything to win and honestly even tho I’m a huge Chicago fan, I hope Crim wins every year he has the best mentality and I hope more players come up in the scene that have minds like them. Yea they can be assholes but what’s the point in doing somethin lg if u don’t want to be the best?
Yeah I think scump formal and crim could have all been good together but I think crims love for competing and maturity level is a bit more then scump and formal other then that I could see them doing well together again
bro THIS fr!!!!! I'm also a big Chi fan and I think people hated on him really quick following the drop, and it's like they fucking forgot about how competitive he is, not to mention he's a WINNER. I'm not even a big fan of Crim's but even I know he knows how to win and there aren't many pros that are as psychotically passionate as he is. I also wish him success too, that fool BEEN earned my respect.
Its hard to argue with as Crim does study the game too and I guess it is his job but people like scump seem to need to chill as well and struggle to scrim all day. If i was great at cod i couldnt endlessly scrim. Crim could be a great coach one day too if he still studies other teams for his
Random but worth noting that i've had this paused at about 15:00 for a while because I've been watching that octopus thing on Netflix. I had to come back and say thank you Hecz just it's all sorts of bad ass so far. I'll come back and finish the podcast after I'm done, good looks Hecz lmao
Hey Hector, if you’re reading this hope you, your family & everyone around you is safe. Been watching you since your OG sniping days (still the best in the game) & i’m happy for you. Keep grinding, much love
Im sure he read this bro. Along with all the other comments. He's happy for you too bro. He's been watching your videos too. He's a huge fan of yours. Glad your safe
One reason Dallas were my favourite team from the beginning is they win games and series by being out slayed it showed true teamwork and cohesion and then they can FRY
Currently in the process of buying 200 acres in canada to build my dream log home with goals literally identical to you two! Its a big old project but deffo worth it!!
He talked about having a place in LA to do stuff with nade. He talked about this in another podcast forgot which one but it was recent. He said he had to ask his wife even though it's basically just so he can go hang out but explained it as if it would be a second home for the family.
I don't care what anyone says, I love Crim! You should put the beef aside and be able to support Crim AND Seth! I honestly think this guy is the best COD player of all time
from what i'm getting from Crim's interviews recently is that Huke is a fucking beast of a player and team mate! He's got a great career ahead of him!! Smart as fuck and unselfish for the team, took paycut to make the team happen and it worked and they won Champs! Smart kid
I'm a big huntsman / scump fan but doing that to someone who made you best man at their wedding is fked up man. I feel for Crim, he stayed loyal to scump/og for years always playing support/playing whatever role needed to win. Huge respect to Crim and great episode
I'm a Chicago fan, but I'll always support Crim. He makes some of the best videos out of any CoD pro on TH-cam imo and the dynasty literally wouldn't have existed without him. He probably has more motivation than any other veteran in the league, you have to respect it. I know Crim feels like the Huntsmen fans abandoned him, but I hope he knows he still has people that support him on the other side of the wall.
It's so entertaining listening to these 2 talk. Crazy that a lot of Huntsmen fans hate on Crim. Dude is a legend and COD wouldn't be the same without him
Because "MOST" Huntsmen fans are really just scump fans and dont realized there are more talented players in the league not hating on the guy nor saying im not a fan but they really be toxic for no reason
Great interview. I liked what Crim was saying about not having every team at the events. I think 16 teams with 8 team events... kinda like separate leagues (National League/American League). That would be fun to watch..
Ive had about a dozen different salt water setups. Octopus require a locking glass lid... they can fit through any hole that the Octopus can get his beak through.
Bro every since champs I’ve been watching more of c6’s interviews and pods but i swear to god esports are so methodical. Like shit all these strats are blowing my mind. Shit I just dont think of.
You didn't hear the news? He bought back optic. Apparently he has to see about being able to keep some spot for cod or sell that spot since he is apart of NRG
@@lazarosioannidis8788 exactly 💯 man to have crimsix come back under optic would be so cool. Have everyone back from the scuf house together again would be bad asd
I remember that Rogan episode they were talking about largest organism, I believe it was a fungus.. "More precisely, a specific honey fungus measuring 2.4 miles (3.8 km) across in the Blue Mountains in Oregon is thought to be the largest living organism on Earth."
This actually helps a lot with clarity on a situation between them. It sucks that they had to break up that way but like H3CZ said hopefully they can all squash it but it’s not oh well they are grown man and can make their own decisions. A lot of respect for Crim and any Huntsman fan should not feel negatively towards him.
I think Crim is so successful he shouldn’t team up with scump and formal again. He’s seriously an incredible leader and you put good players around him like this year and look what happens. I hope Crim stays himself and continues to ride his high ego honestly. He’s a fucking beast of a player and it makes him play way better.
dude i worked with dersky. hes such a cool dude. its so cool to see someone talk about him. im 2 years late on this but its such a good podcast. hecz never stop (you wont) but this is so good
It’s cool to see Full Sail is still working with esports! I ended up attending Full sail in 2015 and it was worth it! And crim just needs to shoot straight lmao
I really really reeeeaaaallllly miss Seth and porter playing together! Like warzone videos with them two would have been epic in so many ways ! Now that crim won his third ring established himself as the goat and we’re all plying cold war now mabye it’s time to get these two together again !
You cannot flush wipes with a septic tank. Even if the wipes say they are flushable it’s false. They do not break up and easily cause back ups. I literally see this happen everyday, As I am a drain cleaner / Plumber.
Not really he talked about it on another podcast. The Optic stuff is basically pointless because he can't use the spot he would just rebrand the huntsmen to optic.
Man, it’s pretty wild hearing that Seth was gonna be Crim’s best man at his wedding before all of the roster stuff went down. Hopefully they will make amends when this is all said and done.
its sad how their jobs ruined their friendship
The Police yeah that’s actually sad.
Man children
I believe they’ll make amends, I don’t fight or argue often but when I do, it’s with my best friends. I talk crap on TH-cam but that’s a different story.
time stamp ?
Seth and Crim on the next Eavesdrop to clear everything up.
Nah this ain't Jerry Springer.
@@matt_klein uoo
The drama makes money they think
I don’t think there’s any real issue. Scump just didn’t want to play with him and had him dropped. Crim didn’t like it and that’s that
That podcast may actually happen now that they buried the hatch.
I think hecz should do a episode with all 4 of the dynasty members and just get them to have it out and clear the air, would be awesome.
------- Couple of edits: -------
*Thanks for all the likes 🙂
*I agree right now is not the time they are all doing their thing but before it gets too far gone + imagine them 4 playing warzone if they got on would be hilarious
*For those thinking I wanted to make a reality TV show out of this not the case. They would have to sort it out behind the scenes to even get together and then just talk about the surface stuff we already knew and clear the air for the fans that way.
Too soon
skillz78 facts would be awkward asf lowkey 😂
Honestly that would make for good content really. But they are adults they can talk about it close doors if they want.
Its literally just confused frustration and banter between Crim and Seth, Formal doesnt give a fuck and nither does Karma. Theyd be fine.
That'd be disastrous
only Formal left on all the dynasty squad for their second eavesdrop podcast
“Were all in the same boat, sinking” had me dying 😂😂
Could seriously listen to Crim analyse gameplay/VOD for hours on end. GOAT
H3CZ in honor of the special surprise can we get a round table podcast with the whole fam. Crim included and any others we lost along the way. Maybe it’s to early, maybe better in a few years regardless would be dope
Hopefully after they squashed the hbr stuff
Would be nice to see in a season of 2. But I’d watch it if were to ever happen.
Crimsix is true Optic - cared about winning and the team above all else, other teammates look bad because they weren't team players and cared about individual stats/egos...he leaves and brings a team together and wins it all again.
That’s why he’s the GOAT
This was dumb lol
Ur ed
Now thats a good comment.
I understand your point - just don't know how OpTic was related or how that makes him "true Optic"
Changed my whole perspective of Crim. Wow. He understands COD an another level. What he was saying about certain people making the team play better was crazy accurate.
10 years from now we’ll be rooting for Crim and Scumps teams. Watching their podcasts while they talk about CDL going VR and wondering if the new *Anal controls* are OP or not.
*WHOS GOING GREY FIRST* ???????
Crim
This comment was a rollercoaster
The new WHAT CONTROLS
whaaaat the fuuuuu
This made my morning
Imagine if he got all 4 in the same room of the old team OG.
It’s amazing what a narrative can create. I’ll be 100% honest, I didn’t know the full story between Crim and Scump but Scump has always been my favorite player so I stuck with him and saw Crim as this ‘villain’. After hearing this, I just have so much more respect for Crim and what he’s accomplished after all that drama happened. I’m actually disappointed to hear Scump didn’t stick up for his brother the way Crim did for him. I’ve never liked the, ‘others didn’t show up at champs’ comments either. It’s a team game. You win and lose as a team. If you lose, own it as a team. If you need to talk negative about someone, let THAT person do it. You should be helping your brother up. Another great podcast.
Perfect breakfast eating a bacon egg and cheese and watching this podcast to start off my work week great!
Literally doing the exact same lol
Yo same lmao. No bacon tho cause I’m lazy.
Saameeeeeee
Lmao same
Lol me too
This vid made me change the way i’ve been seeing the beef between him and scump. Dude said he was gonna be the best man in his wedding, real shit right there just to throw away for a video game
Wait what say that again?
Bro it was the kids more than Seth I hope they squash it soon
"For a video game" thats where you're wrong my friend. This is their job. This is their livelihood.
C S yea idk i think seth was more on tj and dashy’s side than anything, but still they should definitely squash it
PaPaCaKeZZ seth and crim dont rely on the actual video game itself for their livelihood they could have a great life still without it. And lets say they do, there’s no reason to end it in a bad way. Seth just shoulda told the guy “hey i don’t think teaming is the right idea” and still be really good friends, rather than not tell him until last minute
OG 🐐
When he says those two people ruined it, meaning the team for MW is he referring to Dashy and TJ?
I feel like we all knew Crimsix was the mind, but we do not understand COD like he does to appreciate his talent.
Much
Crimsix talking about how smart Huke is (very great clip considering what is going on right now with these two players) 1:11:50
This is the best episode this exactly what 2 friends talking feels like its so kool to see respect but not boring.also I loved crim for way to long hes such a good player its scary hes still this good
Also hecz with his lil plugins hilarious
Miss this guy on the team with everyone else tbh, sad the way things worked out. Hopefully they work it out in the future as friends at least.
That was cool. Appreciate the honesty. Good to see that H3CZ and Crim have respect for one another still.
Crim’s mind for Call of Duty is unreal. I’ve played CoD for over 8 years and watched pro for 4 and the amount of knowledge and theory that flows out of this guy is nuts.
Crims just misunderstood in an era where it seems like no one truly cares about winning anymore. Even in real sports we see so many players with luxurious contracts playing for theme selves and the money and winning comes last. I feel like it’s all coming together these last few months. Guys like Aches, Gunless and Crim are so under appreciated and will be missed dearly when they’re gone. There’s very few people that will do anything to win and honestly even tho I’m a huge Chicago fan, I hope Crim wins every year he has the best mentality and I hope more players come up in the scene that have minds like them. Yea they can be assholes but what’s the point in doing somethin lg if u don’t want to be the best?
Yeah I think scump formal and crim could have all been good together but I think crims love for competing and maturity level is a bit more then scump and formal other then that I could see them doing well together again
bro THIS fr!!!!! I'm also a big Chi fan and I think people hated on him really quick following the drop, and it's like they fucking forgot about how competitive he is, not to mention he's a WINNER. I'm not even a big fan of Crim's but even I know he knows how to win and there aren't many pros that are as psychotically passionate as he is. I also wish him success too, that fool BEEN earned my respect.
@Mike Fortune cool
Its hard to argue with as Crim does study the game too and I guess it is his job but people like scump seem to need to chill as well and struggle to scrim all day. If i was great at cod i couldnt endlessly scrim. Crim could be a great coach one day too if he still studies other teams for his
Now this is how u start a morning.
Now this is how u start moaning
Yo i read this wrong too 😂😂
chemms_ 😂😂
chemms_ no cap fuckin same🤣
Most excited I’ve been for a podcast episode🔥
We just want Crim Seth Damon Matt to be good again, just friends
crim is going to be an amazing coach when his playing career is over, if he wants to coach
He has that winning mentality man, he'll do whatever it takes and put the time in. I love Seth but I think that's what puts Crim as the GOAT
Anyone else hear at certain points, Ian breathing hard as hell in the mic 😂
I was lookin for this comment lmaooooo
Thicc
shotzzy and huke and illey were all so young. they were so blessed to have vets like crim on their team. thats why they listened so literally.
Random but worth noting that i've had this paused at about 15:00 for a while because I've been watching that octopus thing on Netflix. I had to come back and say thank you Hecz just it's all sorts of bad ass so far. I'll come back and finish the podcast after I'm done, good looks Hecz lmao
Hey Hector, if you’re reading this hope you, your family & everyone around you is safe. Been watching you since your OG sniping days (still the best in the game) & i’m happy for you. Keep grinding, much love
Im sure he read this bro. Along with all the other comments. He's happy for you too bro. He's been watching your videos too. He's a huge fan of yours. Glad your safe
Hecz “I’m going to get a place in LA so I can go back and forth for a project I’m working on”
nothing to do with buying optic back? 👀
Put the timeline up my dude....please.....
Agree
That would be really hard. Crim drags this conversation all over the fucking place lol
Nearly impossible for that with crim lol
I like how hecz doesn't know about Uruk-hai but squid is still "back on the menu boys" lmao
One reason Dallas were my favourite team from the beginning is they win games and series by being out slayed it showed true teamwork and cohesion and then they can FRY
100%. I kept telling ppl this.
Currently in the process of buying 200 acres in canada to build my dream log home with goals literally identical to you two! Its a big old project but deffo worth it!!
200 acres for a log home?? Wat??
10:50 hecz Talks about getting a place in LA for a project he’s working on🤔🧐
Duh he bought ogla
He talked about having a place in LA to do stuff with nade. He talked about this in another podcast forgot which one but it was recent. He said he had to ask his wife even though it's basically just so he can go hang out but explained it as if it would be a second home for the family.
Scump and Formal made up the next year hence why they’re on a team together again. Maybe Crim and Scump will make up as well. We can only hope.
@California Dreaming doesn't mean there wouldn't be a possibility of them making up and teaming later on in the future
I don't care what anyone says, I love Crim! You should put the beef aside and be able to support Crim AND Seth! I honestly think this guy is the best COD player of all time
man i love crim, sorta didnt watch him much since dynasty cos im a scump fan but na respect him sm
237??? Wtf yo crim must have a wagon. Big ole thang. I’ll donate 10 gifted to see a C6 twirking video no hesi.
bro😂😂
Yo?
Crim doing the WAP.
Gotta give it up for Crim he did that shit!! His passion, competitiveness, and Professionalism got him the Big one!!
I wanna see crim and scump hug it out so bad
from what i'm getting from Crim's interviews recently is that Huke is a fucking beast of a player and team mate! He's got a great career ahead of him!! Smart as fuck and unselfish for the team, took paycut to make the team happen and it worked and they won Champs! Smart kid
I'm a big huntsman / scump fan but doing that to someone who made you best man at their wedding is fked up man. I feel for Crim, he stayed loyal to scump/og for years always playing support/playing whatever role needed to win. Huge respect to Crim and great episode
I’m glad to see these two still be able to talk shit out. Gg’s bros
Spetic tanks can last 10-20 years before it need emptied. Not to mention it’s a huge vacuum sucks the shit out of it lol
59:30 you're welcome.
Goat hope you have a good year bro
Cheers🔥
Yooo respect to C6 for being a dope person and best of luck to all of y’all everyone involved will be remembered for a long time. Trust the process
The first nonsense 20 minutes of this was incredible. Just two great conversationalists and storytellers. #SkinnyFatGuys4Eva
Crazy to think the university I go to and play for has a sponsorship in this. Full Sail is lit! Esports teams and an arena!
Idk how people can hate Crim. Dude did so much for OpTic Gaming and people still find a way to hate. Shits just mind blowing
Man almost to a million... i’ve enjoyed the journey so far
what a way to start the day. kill it this week ladies & gents!
I'm a Chicago fan, but I'll always support Crim. He makes some of the best videos out of any CoD pro on TH-cam imo and the dynasty literally wouldn't have existed without him. He probably has more motivation than any other veteran in the league, you have to respect it. I know Crim feels like the Huntsmen fans abandoned him, but I hope he knows he still has people that support him on the other side of the wall.
It's so entertaining listening to these 2 talk. Crazy that a lot of Huntsmen fans hate on Crim. Dude is a legend and COD wouldn't be the same without him
Because "MOST" Huntsmen fans are really just scump fans and dont realized there are more talented players in the league not hating on the guy nor saying im not a fan but they really be toxic for no reason
Great interview. I liked what Crim was saying about not having every team at the events. I think 16 teams with 8 team events... kinda like separate leagues (National League/American League). That would be fun to watch..
Drink every time crim says “yeah” while hecz is talking. Lmao
Love that crimsix is the only cod pro that isnt scared of guns and shoots with lucas botkin and has nods lol
Ive had about a dozen different salt water setups. Octopus require a locking glass lid... they can fit through any hole that the Octopus can get his beak through.
Someone may have already commented this, but I believe the drug Crim was speaking about at 1 hour 40 is "Devils Breath".
H3CZ going back and forth for a project he’s working on!!
WE SEE YOU FAM
DOUBLE GREEN muthafu*k’n WALL
Bro every since champs I’ve been watching more of c6’s interviews and pods but i swear to god esports are so methodical. Like shit all these strats are blowing my mind. Shit I just dont think of.
"Thanks for dropping me" - GOAT
I dont know why crim is super motivational. With a person as successful as him, with the urge to win in life....is GOATISM...#Lifegoals
I was hype asf when I saw crim on an eavesdrop podcast in 2020
Crim I never watch your twitch before and now I do
At 10:50 he said "I am going to buy a place there (L.A) so I can go back and forth for a project I ve been working". Is this optic related?
No I doubt it, he's been talking about getting a place in LA for a while
You didn't hear the news? He bought back optic. Apparently he has to see about being able to keep some spot for cod or sell that spot since he is apart of NRG
@@midnightparanormalsociety8630 yeah man that's why I wrote it. I though that he has to sell the LA spot because he cannot own two.
@@lazarosioannidis8788 exactly 💯 man to have crimsix come back under optic would be so cool. Have everyone back from the scuf house together again would be bad asd
Wow this might’ve been my favorite episode yet. Funnily enough crim was never my favorite but this was awesome and he seems really cool.
6:30 you need a drain field dug and built
That sneeze edit was smart. No elbow cover or anything, jesus christ
I remember that Rogan episode they were talking about largest organism, I believe it was a fungus..
"More precisely, a specific honey fungus measuring 2.4 miles (3.8 km) across in the Blue Mountains in Oregon is thought to be the largest living organism on Earth."
Ya it was the crazy NSA mushroom expert dude was a great episode. Dude is nuts but you can tell he knows some shit
Crim drinking water like we are running out.
What an absolute unit!
War Dogs is hilairious, like the poart when the dealer steals his money so he shoots up with a sub
I went and watched My Octopus Teacher after this podcast and Hecz wasn't lying. Very good show.
This actually helps a lot with clarity on a situation between them. It sucks that they had to break up that way but like H3CZ said hopefully they can all squash it but it’s not oh well they are grown man and can make their own decisions. A lot of respect for Crim and any Huntsman fan should not feel negatively towards him.
Love Crim. what a hero. Definitely not the villain. Unsure how serious the Crim and Seth beef is, but I hope they work it out.
I think Crim is so successful he shouldn’t team up with scump and formal again. He’s seriously an incredible leader and you put good players around him like this year and look what happens. I hope Crim stays himself and continues to ride his high ego honestly. He’s a fucking beast of a player and it makes him play way better.
Outstanding, love the content Hector. 🇿🇦 Loves your work
I hope Scump and Crim can make amends some day
We need the optic dynasty back man😢
Usually don't like to listen to crim talk, this is one of my favorite podcasts Hecz has done though
Man i live for these podcasts. Crime will always have my respect as well
Crim is such a chill guy honestly.
dude i worked with dersky. hes such a cool dude. its so cool to see someone talk about him. im 2 years late on this but its such a good podcast. hecz never stop (you wont) but this is so good
nothing like a morning podcast with some hot chocolate or coffee
Porter is the only streamer ik who goes into other cod streams and talks to viewers about bullet sizes lmaoo
Watching this at 4am
Same, now it's about to be 5am
Same
this gonna be good already know legend!
I hope the crew makes up man, they’ll look back and say “what the fu*k” in a few years
You mean what the fawk man
We need a video with Rob, HECZ, and C6 shooting long-range.
It’s cool to see Full Sail is still working with esports! I ended up attending Full sail in 2015 and it was worth it! And crim just needs to shoot straight lmao
Aye this must not go without some recognition for the video editor for putting in visuals like picture of what they are talking about
I really really reeeeaaaallllly miss Seth and porter playing together! Like warzone videos with them two would have been epic in so many ways ! Now that crim won his third ring established himself as the goat and we’re all plying cold war now mabye it’s time to get these two together again !
My octopus teacher is amazing thanks for sharing this!
I want to see the dynasty come back together at least one last time
The OP team on Cold War would be crimsix (strategy) scump (gun fights) clayster (close range/shotgun) and proofy (long range and snipe)
Crim seems like the coolest pro to hangout with
You cannot flush wipes with a septic tank. Even if the wipes say they are flushable it’s false. They do not break up and easily cause back ups. I literally see this happen everyday, As I am a drain cleaner / Plumber.
Hecz is dumb when it comes to this. People have told him this time and time again but he never listens.
H3CZs “I’m going to get a place in LA just so I can go back and fourth on a project I’m working on”... does that confirm the Optic Requisition?
Already confirmed he bought optic... now he just has to sell the cdl spot
Not really he talked about it on another podcast. The Optic stuff is basically pointless because he can't use the spot he would just rebrand the huntsmen to optic.
@@VoidBL lol