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Why I Took Apart My Favorite Deck: • Why I Took Apart My Fa...
The "Commander" Commander Deck: • The "Commander" Comman...
My Weirdest Deckbuilding Journey: • My Weirdest Deckbuildi...
00:00 - Intro
1:01 - Syr Konrad
2:39 - Yennett
4:14 - Reyhan & Ishai
5:52 - Mimeoplasm
7:42 - Titania
9:42 - Thalisse
11:15 - Mortarion
12:46 - Virtus & Gorm
14:46 - Eligeth & Esior
16:16 - Karazikar
17:56 - Marton Stromgald
19:26 - Wilhelt
21:34 - Kynaios & Tiro
23:19 - Commander Commander
24:53 - Feather
26:39 - Baba Lysaga
29:02 - Observations
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I want to see Matt and Dana do the same list
Yess
I don't know, I'd rather see them do their own lists instead.
@@Peronioz classic.
Agreed
Agree
Oh lord Joey, ranking your commander decks is like picking your favorite children. Love the content man.
I love my commander decks much more than I've ever loved my kids.
This is the type of content the space needs more of. Anyone can talk about new cards or deck techs. But only Joey can talk about his deck collection and what he likes/ dislikes about them. Personal, unique, and a good exercise for each viewer to undertake.
Can I say I love that you think about other players’ fun. For someone who played against a very unpleasant voltron player in a group for a while, who would always target me then stall out - leaving me sitting around watching the game - it’s is nice to hear you consider such things!
Love all the opportunities to hear Joey talk about how much he loves his Baby Lasagna. Might have to brew my own soon.
Tinkering with decks all the time is so fun - I don't think a deck is every really "done", nor should it ever be "perfect". Great video!
Fantastic video Joey. Genuinely one of the best youve ever done. So enjoyable and made me want to do the same with my 31 decks.
And Baba is also currently the deck I play EVERY gamenight without fail. So much fun.
Edit: Ive now ordered my decks in playing time from the last 3 months...
...and its shocking how many of my "favourite" decks im not playing with. Need to review and work out why.
However, it has made me start taking apart two decks as ive now realised that i just dont play them anymore.
Thanks Joey!
I had an Ishai/Reyhan, and decided it had enough hydras and x spells that it's now Zaxara, so it's way less consistent, but way more fun.
Great inisights into all your decks and how they are put together. I really liked seeing the different categories for each one. Awesome stuff!
This was a dope video to watch. I appreciate how much detail you went into, when describing what you did and didn't like about each of your decks. I also liked the visual overview, as it helped me to follow along.
Love videos like this! Thank you Joey for sharing these and explaining each one! Happy Holidays!
This was one of the most well-articulated videos of mtg content I’ve ever watched, focused more on play style and experience creation than most. Very good.
You should try a Juri deck. Currently my favorite deck and fits the bill for aristocrats, funky and varied win cons, and a surprising amount of power.
Really nice concept for a video! And I like how you included 16 mini deck techs along the way 🙂
I really enjoyed this tour through your decks ! Nice idea
I am crushing hard on the titles of the various deck categories. 'The Cranberries' for Wilhelt may be my favourite. Thanks for sharing and much love from Canada.
I am rattled that you don't have a Henzie Torre deck. Graveyard synergy with Jund with turn creatures sideways, massive variance in deck construction and a scaling power level? He's just great.
This is my favorite EDH video. I love how you branched out from the middle, and it's super fun to see how and what you've built, and why you love or don't find yourself playing certain decks. I appreciate the time put into this.
Yes, ordering the list like this was genius!
awesome video! love insight into selecting decks
I enjoyed that a lot! I think the best decks are the one that that you have the most fun playing but also it’s important everyone else is having fun and it’s nice to see that!!
I'm definitely at a point where I'm getting a lot of decks and I definitely change them out. I am a total Johnny and find the more variance, the more fun a deck is to play. For that reason, there are some commanders on this list I want to build as well! Great video!
Loved the video, Joey! I could listen to you talk about commander all dat
Awesome video! I really love your insights on your decks. I often try to analyze my decks in similar ways and understand what it is that I do/don’t like about them. There’s a lot of solid EDH wisdom in this video.
Love this content! Made me think about my own decks!
Gutted by the Greven switch cause I ADORE my Greven deck! But I also understand the reasoning behind the effect it causes, my group usually decides to use all of our Voltron decks to make it a Voltron match, we always have an amazing time that way.
That’s sounds so fun!! I might have to try to convince my playgroup to give that a whirl
@@markscott9150 it’s definitely worth a go at least once, can’t tell you how many “western standoffs” all 4 of us ended up in, those are the most fun lol.
I only use my Greven deck as my "end of the night" deck. I'm gonna win fast or lose fast, and hopefully even if I lose I've done enough damage that the game is over shortly afterwards.
@@Onattamato 💯
I love personal commander vlogs like this! These feel so much more unique than the usual commander podcast content (still love EDHRec tho
I love your love for all your decks.
Thanks for uploading!
gotta love commander commander and baba lysaga
00:44 ah yes, the Memento method of organization. Love to see it.
Unrelated to the video, but I've built your Baby Lasagna deck (with a couple card difference due to card availability), and just gotta say it is my current favorite deck. All my other newer decks are jealous at the amount of attention Baby Lasagna is getting.
Great video! I Personally roll for what Deck to play every time. It kinda forces me to put fun cards into every Deck, and then tweak the themes if they get boring to play.
I borrowed your baba lasaga list. It's a banger!! Appreciate you! ❤😊 I recently added Tyvarr in there
Such a cool idea Joey
One of the best commander videos ever
It's very interesting to see how Joey's decks evolved over the process of the content, I remember in the past him talking about how much he actually enjoyed playing Feather in older podcasts and such, and a handful of decks that have disappeared that were mentioned (Shorikai stands out because I had the same deck and also deconstructed it). Agrus Kos (the new one, Eternal Soldier) has a chance at scratching a similar itch to Feather which is very nice.
heyo, i'm curious why did you deconstruct shorikai? I built it cuz I thought it was cool to have a discard engine in command zone, but maybe it's too repetitive?
@@curio_sphere I had a reanimator Shorikai, so it was kinda gimmicky and it felt pretty obvious what it was doing after one or two games. I think Shorikai is a powerful commander and I'd probably use it for another deck at some point, but the one I had was just very samey
@@RobertTheSmall ty for sharing that, I was quite curious about building exactly that bc azorius reanimator sounded unique but really dislike commanders that play out always the same so I'll be avoiding this one xD
Once again Joey, thank you for letting us in and sharing your experiences. Your videos always seem vulnerable and honest, and it’s a huge standout as a content creator. Much love.
Now this is how to do a list.
Felt the brutal honesty recently from taking apart my Sidisi deck.
Only after building Feather and playing her for a week straight i can understand what you were feeling about playing her. Great video ❤
I have a Lathril budget precon upgrade I don't really feel like playing often but keep around because I bring it as an extra deck to offer new people to try since it's simple to play and you never get mana screwed with it. I've also found referring it to Elf Deathball makes people more interested in trying it.
That's actually crazy, I do the exact same thing with my Lathril deck, lol. I've gotten 7 friends into magic, and all of them started playing with my Lathril deck because of the exact reasons you mentioned. I have also made a separate card pile that can be switched in to make the deck much more powerful (but this is for when the new players want to play in higher powerlevels).
loved the video ❤
I too have a lot of decks (>30); I should also tried to ranked them the same way you did here.
I also found myself struggling trying to keep them up to date, especially with the insane number of newly released products…. I would love if you could make a video about that topic in the future.
I think the message here is to stop at 16, so you can keep up, and enjoy them. Not that I'd listen...
I've said as much on other EDHREC videos, but I was way wrong about Baba Lysaga and, since having jammed a generic list on MTGO several dozen times now, I can safely say that I will build her in paper.
Unlike Joey, I don't like Golgari as a rule (my only Golgari deck is Skullbriar, and that's not, in my opinion, a typical Golgari commander), so that I'm this excited about sacrificing stuff speaks to how interesting Baba is to me.
I love commanders that make underplayed cards playable and playable cards even more playable; Baba does this in spades. I've played many an enchantress deck, so stuff like Rancor and Sanctum Weaver are old pals of mine and, since I'm a MtG boomer, I've played plenty of MIshra's Factories, but I love how these old standards gain new utility in BL.
Also, to Joey's point about Feather: I get that, too. I had a Light-Paws deck that was sooooo same-y each game. My solution with her was to build her on a $50 budget. This way, while the deck is still linear and same-y, you get to run a lot of cards people tend not to have seen. The result is a good "end of the night" deck that can still KO someone on turn four but that has a lot of "Wait; what does that do?" cards as well.
Anyway, I was wrong about you Baby Zagnut, Joey. Happy to admit I was wrong and happy to be on Team Lasagna.
I've been looking for a lower power deck and for something to do with the Nurgle part of my chaos precon, so this is great. My favorite deck far and away is my Queen Marchesa deck, I have stop myself from playing it too much so the pod doesn't learn all of its tricks (some of which are suggestions from your video)
absolutely loved this
Oh, I am so tempted to build Virtus and Gorm now. I have been needing a deck that wants exquisite blood, but not sanguine bond. That infinite is a little over done and I think that deck is perfect for it!
23:34 oh cool! I didn't know you had such deck I built mine with the friends forever creature to make it wubrg, it's really a funny deck with tons of random stuff and cool effects
Oh well... Mine isn't truly commander tribal to your standards it's commander tribal land excluded, and it actually started as a "commander tribal" since it had a couple of legend metter cards
Any chance of getting the Mortarion List? - love the video. Baby Lasagne sure sounds fun!
I’m about to look at that Reyhan/Ishai list for some +1/+1 Counter subthemes for my eventual land creatures deck
i hope you do more of this.
Ohhhh, I saw Baba in my cards while building a deck recently and was like... oh man, she's so cool I just wanna build around her but at first glance the three card types was too much to tackle (while building a different deck) so she stayed in the stacks. I'll have to pull her out and check out your video!!!
I only have a couple commander decks because I got into magic about 3 years ago, but my favorite and best are definitely niv-mizzet and Edgar Markov. I play niv-mizzet with a bunch of low cost cantrippy spells which makes it a lot more consistent. It is harder to counter the strat when I play low-cost combo pieces and draw spam to get to 1 of my 3 infinite combo enchants with niv. The edgar deck is just super fast and reliable. A lot of low cost anthems with versatile removal.
As someone who doesn't get to play Commander nearly as much as I'd like to, Feather's consistent & repetitive nature feel very comfortable for me.
Enjoyed the video and your insight on what makes you more likely to play a deck :D
I was waiting for this video
It's amazing how you could care so much about someone else's decks when they're such a nice and funny content creator
Wow, great video. I gotta do this too 😄
Just quick mention that in mimeoplasm you should change consecrated sphinx like cards to Primespeaker zegana and fathom mage to draw huuuge amount of cards with one go.
Really love this video, Joey. The love mixed with the introspective/analytical is interesting - and yeah, now to rank my own dozen! Def dig the conclusion of most variable &/or "interactive" with the table (joy, not removal) makes for more replayability. Will be thinking of that as I brew this new year.
This is only tangentially related but I put a Virtus into my Kamiz deck. Giving them Double Strike is pretty fun.
Had a game once where I couldn't decide if I should cast Virtus or another 3 drop on turn three so I chose randomly and got Virtus. Ended up kind of dominating that game because I even had recursion to follow up the inevitable board wipe.
oooh Titania is my favorite pet deck of all time! Baba is played by a buddy of mine so Grismold is my go to favorite golgari commander right now. End of turn plant phase: everyone gets a bulbasaur!
Same thing happened to me with Feather. I finally had to take it apart sadly when enough time went by I didn't reach for it.
I’ve dismantled all of my commander decks (Kalamax, Kykar Spirits, Saskia Werewolf Stax, Cazur and Ukkima Mutant Ninjas) and consolidated and built three new decks recently and I’ve been having so much more fun. Sefris Dungeons, Henzie Blitz, and Magus Lucea Kane Tyranids. I’m working on Tetsuo and Hazezon now too, with my goal being each of the 3 color combinations
Joey i feel the same way on grouphug, but i found out a way how to make it less controll everyone. This is by just hugging one player at time :)
To give toys to just one player makes the game completely different. Just remind yourself how it feeled to play xyris in compare to temple bell.
And cause of that you dont need to take everything everytime to controll the mess you made.
Joey - for your Baba Lysaga deck -- have you considered Frostwalk Bastion? it can be an artifact/creature/land in one card, you just need to run snow covered basic lands@!
This video is why commander is fun. I wouldn’t want to build basically any of these decks except maybe 1 or 2. But there’s always other players that want to brew different decks and get excited about interactions I personally don’t like. The variance is what makes the game so fun.
All I know is that of all the control decks I’ve run between zur, aminatou, and rograhk and thrasios, rograhk and thrasios is def the most cracked power level. I’m currently building a personalized Thrasios and Tivet. Gonna be a control oriented build.
I wonder if Joey likes green and black :3
My thrasios and Tivet deck is a painters servant + deck. I run lifeforce, deathgrip, and douse. It’s primarily a control deck that’s just gonna grind everyone out. Winter and static orb go right in even tho I lose a lot of ways to tap them in these colors. The whole idea of the deck is to get painters servant and any of the 3 counterspell enchantments into play. Proceed to politic the whole game. I call rograhk and thrasios IrMakeMana and I call thrasios and Tivet haha thanks. They pretty much do the same thing but with defined differences in how.
Loooove my Yenett mill deck! Its not great, actually much weaker than your avarage deck but something about ripping a traumatize of the top just makes me giggle everytime. Glad to see Yenett getting some love as she is the first commander i really truely GET! Im all about that card
Your Konrad deck works very similar to my Search for Blex dredge deck, but unlike you, G allows me many options for non-creature recursion. How do you deal with having a noncreature card you that you want in hand getting milled in monoblack? Some cards to consider: Yawgmoth's Will, Increasing Ambition, Stinkweed Imp/Golgari Thug (Dredgers work great with Tortured Existance), Ill-Gotten Gains, Skirge Familiar, Tormod the Desecrator.
Also, in your Titania (I also use this exact strategy in my Kynaios and Tiro "Egglands" deck), I didn't see Gerrard's Hourglass Pendant, Amulet of Vigor or Urza's Saga (that can fetch either of them or Zuran Orb). You need to add these ones as well. I would probably advise removing Scapeshift to not having a 1-card "I win" button that can make games unfun.
LOL The alternate art cards in Kynaios and Tiro
I have baba lysaga, sounds like I need to give her a try! I just made a Thalisse deck, up next is making an ur dragon deck
I’m also working on a group hug deck with Kynaios and Tiro, but I’ve included a bunch of “you win the game” effects as well as dice rolling and coin flipping for a gimmick
I'm very curious about your deck. Do you maybe have link for it? I'm building a KandT deck and wants more win cons. Thanks!
@@Lovel3e I don’t have a completed list yet, I got too lost in the sauce with the coin flip/dice roll mechanics
@@aaronconlin Hahaha I see! I've played against a coin flip deck and it can become the target of the table pretty quick. What are some cards that have a alternative win con you were thinking about tho? Or are they all coin flip cards?
@@Lovel3e Triskaidekaphile, LabMan & Jace, Approach of the Second Sun, Helix Pinnacle, As Luck Would Have It, Chance Encounter, Epic Struggle, Test of Endurance
@@aaronconlin Ooooh they sure sound fun! Thanks!
I have a Feather deck and I agree completely, I love it, but it's the same gameplan each time..sometimes you're in the mood for it, sometimes you're not!
As someone who plays with you quite often, I 100% thought you took some of these decks apart based upon the last time I saw them.
Definitely sounds like you should take feather apart. I've been slowly doing what Dan S from commander sphere podcast recently spoke about.
My list:
1) Sheoldred - draw = kill…
2) Marneus Calgar - tokens galore
3) Ivy gleeful spell thief - auras
4) Imotekh - grave recursion
5) Strefan - vamps/bloodtokens
I just got back into magic and these are my first cracks at commander
I know it a HUGE shift but ishai pairs SO well with jeska, allowing your two commanders to be the finishers means a hand with only ramp is a viable keep. I know swapping out two entire colors to replace with a third completely overhauls the deck but I truly find that deck to be so fun to pilot, albeit it becomes really repetitive and opponents just start to keep focus on ishai more and more, killing it frequently and not allowing it to swing.
It requires a more political approach, making deals with players to kill it AFTER you take another opponent out, which ends up leaving you behind in resources and them with one less player to worry about. But still fun, for those that like ishai and dont want a four color option.
I'm also building a land saccing deck (hazezon shaper of sand), got any tips of good payoffs and enablers? He doesnt have many serious decklists so im a little lost on where to start short of including every card with "desert" in the oracle text
I'd like to know how you decide which decks to take to game night, I've been struggling to choose decks to play recently now that my collection has gotten over 10 decks
Sometimes it’s nice having a deck that’s built for when the mood strikes even though it isn’t super often
I must be some kind of robot. 3 of my most played and favorite decks are feather, gavi(cycling), and kadena(morph). I love knowing what my deck does and knowing it will do it, no question.
The question is however, can I pilot it to beat whatever wild thing everyone else made
I have never seen the mayority of that list, that's what's fun about commander while theme may repeat the commander you choose can vary as much as there is legendary cards to pick from which is a LOT, each of them adding a flavor to it like two chefs cooking the same dish with their style. You don't get quite that feeling in Modern or standard.
Joey needs a GOAT deck!
I'm the same with my Feather deck. Too in love with the character to take it apart, but too bored with the play pattern to play it on the regular.
Please I know you love edh, you should def try rograhk and thrasios. I feel like the power of my deck actually scales with the pod as long as nobody is playing like a really bad deck. The fact it scales with the pod means it performs better in competitive pods and performs slightly worse in less competitive based pods. I play 39 creatures 11 instants and sorcs combined. The rest of the deck is enchantments and mana rocks. I thjnk I’m at 31 or 32 lands. It’s been very difficult refining the deck because I know I can’t go lower than 31 lands no matter what. Statistically it would become way less efficient than it is. No matter what card I add. Even if the card is something like lotus petal :( jeweled lotus is also kinda trash in rograhk and thrasios :(. However the deck is truly insane. It is a winter orb and static orb deck, with no way to tutor either to my hand or field. I do run goblin engineer to put them in the yard tho. The fact I don’t always tutor for dockside off goblin matron is proof of the true power of goblin engineer and goblin welder. Those are my only 3 goblins. Goblin matron is still super effective. I built around turning creatures and artifacts into mana dorks. And just really high value that compliments a small control package. I play enchantments like douse and lifeforce.
I love how every player has different interests. you talk about loving risking/self sacrifice to win. I HATE that. So I make decks that simply do what they do well. Favourite right now is an upgraded Kalimax precon where I set up a combo or two and while I wait I just cast boardwipe after boardwipe.
Would love a video of how to make casual EDH decks vs CEDH... seems like basically everyone just cuts out the zero mana rocks ?
Tons of infinite combos and stax and counterspells so is that the only difference ? No 0 rocks
How you feel about baba lysaga is how I feel about my beluna grandsqual deck it just does so many different things
Nice t-shirt
Feather is also one of my favorite decks and least played decks. I love commanders that take "trash" cards and makes them amazing but it is overly dependent on the commander. I have an Orvar deck that's basically the same thing. Then combining both of those decks together and add a little spice and I get my Hinata deck with both Orvar and Feather in the 99. All of these rely on the commander too much. When they go off, they go off hard. When they get shut down, you don't even get to play the game.
I should do this with mine. I have 61 in total but 10 are unset decks. Also have 2 new ones on the way.
Silly question, what website is he using to build and show the decks?
I made my Wilhelt deck into an aristocrats theme. I love it, but I can't play it against people unless I want to see the light (joy) leaving my opponents eyes.
Let me guess Baba Lysaga is number 1 lol.
Past that, this is a really cool idea and now I need to do this for my decks
I have more than 50 EDH decks but atm they're all in last place since I don't get to play them anymore. My family life currently doesn't allow for any game nights and my attention span past the kids' bedtime isn't sufficient to pilot most of the decks at a 4 player table anyway.
I wish they would reprint Márton Stromgald, his only printing is so old nowm it's hard to get as good version of him. looking just now I can get an EX version for 7 €.
I'm in the process of rebuilding my decks. I think I'm gonna make my Golgari deck into Baba lysaga, it looks very fun. my Azorius deck will be taken apart and I'll add black and make some Esper monstrosity, maybe an aristiocrats deck of some sort. right now, my waiting for the rest of my Winota cards. Winota is crazy powerful and fun to play. I think, the randomness of what humans I get on every attack makes it fun, although, I've turned it into my stax deck now >:)
Your T-Rex Boy pump me ! Look like so fun ! Do you have a copy of your scale 9 before you downgrade it sir ?
Watching this as I'm about to gut my feather deck.
What happened to Shorikai? I could swear I saw a Shorikai deck called "Blue Eyes White Wagon" in the list in the EDHREC article of your decks
22:33 the reason
@@Blacklodge_Willy that unfortunately doesnt tell me anything about Shorikai
@@drsherifff he took it apart because it felt gimmicky
24:32 there he talks about Shorikei and what happened to it 😉
@@SteakOSaurier I found it already, thank you.
What site is being used to look at the deck?
Archidekt
@@ThatGuy_LarryG thanks
I actually built your baby lasagna deck. It's an incredibly well built deck, the synergies are amazing. And I enjoy playing it and figuring out the best strats. But everyone else definitely doesn't. There's times where I can combo into like a 15 min turn, and it's just not fair on the rest of the table. But yeah it's a very well made deck; it's popped every time I've played it. But I think I'm going to adjust it a bit so the turns aren't so long and there's a couple more quicker wincons; see what I can do without breaking it
I goldfished it a bit more on my own to try to get quicker at figuring out combos/solving the puzzle... this deck is a lot haha the amount of triggers to keep track of is just insane. Like I said, amazingly well built; 1 action gives you SO much value. But I think ultimately to the detriment of the pace of the game.
I TRY to keep myself with 10 decks or less, to avoid colors redundancy and strategies that are alike. Help to keep things undercontrol, can't imagine keeping 16 decks up to date.
huge props to joey for finding a good way to make a video where he talks about his decks and have it not feel conceded or forced